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Koush’s ROM Manager Pulled From Google Play, Google Cites Developer Agreement Violations

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ROM Manager has been a huge part of the Android ecosystem, helping rooted users flash new ROMs and restore backups for years. Unfortunately, it appears that its developer Koush, has run into troubles. Google, without warning, removed ROM Manager from Google Play, citing that the app violates a few agreements that developers sign in to, specifically ones that deal with third party payment options inside of apps downloaded from Google Play. 

The issue was first addressed by Google, stating that Koush needed to fix a payment flow option for Helium – his data backup application. After Koush stated that he had other apps that used the same payment flow, Google skipped past the “you have six weeks to fix the issue,” and went straight to yanking down ROM Manager. As you may know, ROM Manager has hundreds of thousands of downloads, and people rely on it for their rooting needs. Whatever Koush did, it doesn’t appear that Google was very transparent about the decisions they were making with regards to removing it completely.

We have faith that Koush will be able to work this all out and ROM Manager will return to Google Play sooner or later. Although, Koush hasn’t promised anything quite yet.

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  • droidify

    I bought Carbon, which is now Helium and it was the biggest waste of $5 ever. It failed to make simple backups and was updated daily with more bugs. It was a greedy attempt to get paid well before the app was ready. Before that, Rom Manager was placing .nomedia in the wrong place and causing users tons of problems. I’m over Koush and will never buy another one of his apps. There are much better options now days.

  • iNfAMOUS70702

    Rom manager was good during the OG droid.. Evo..DX days but since those phones phased out its been a pretty useless app..Rom toolbox is the go to app for all that root stuff

  • Justin Fosco

    The last time i used Rom Manager was with my OG Droid…

  • joejoe5709

    Hmmmm… just me or does there seem to be a skirmish mounting between all things Cyanogenmod and Google? And of course Koush with his many useful (and popular) apps is taking some hits as a part of that. Google is coming out looking a little bit like a bully if you ask me. How long has ROM Manager been an Android staple? Years. And it’s just now all of a sudden violating the rules? Sounds fishy.

  • whatyougetforrippingpeopleoff

    About time koush is a waste.. greedy whining bitch

  • Rodeojones000

    Unfortunate that this is happening, but with all due respect to Koush, I stopped using ROM Manager after TWRP came out. It was definitely my go-to with the OG Droid and the early days of my GNex and I was happy to buy the premium version, but I’ve moved on. Hopefully, for those that still use it, this issue is resolved sooner rather than later.

  • Walt

    Rom Toolbox Pro – J Rummy…The touch recovery thing is crazy and how he never responds to emails

    • Walt

      Sorry it may be confusing but I meant to say I use Rom Toolbox Pro

  • fitzgerald52

    ROM Manager isn’t really needed anymore…

    • mrjayviper

      maybe not for you but it seems there’s new users all the time

    • Big_EZ

      When was it needed? I tried to use it a few years ago and it didn’t really have many roms. I’ve tried it once since with a different phone and there were no roms. I thought maybe it was mainly for the Nexus line of phones.

    • joejoe5709

      Does that matter? It’s not about whether you personally use it or not. It’s the principle of the thing. I’d be pissed too if I were Koush.

    • flosserelli

      Some rom flashes will only “take” with CM. I ran into this problem flashing SlimKat 4.4 via TWRP, and got no cell service. Flashing via CM (as recommended in the SlimKat thread) solved the problem.

  • Adrynalyne

    Wonder what he violated…

  • Sean Plantz

    God.. the policy he violated has been in place for soooooo long, hes lucky they didn’t just ban his apps immediately. He can fix it and have it re instated in no time if he wants.

  • ApplesNAndroids

    Yea so… me and my Moto X… We stay stock these days….

    • fitzgerald52

      Stock w/ some Xposed/GravityBox

  • Leif Sikorski

    This guy makes nice apps but he’s also a drama queen. He seeks trouble and violates the TOS here and there – that’s the result. The TOS are the same for every developer, so respect them or don’t release it in the playstore.

    • Intellectua1

      I totally agree with the drama queen part I follow the guy on G+ and I always wanna hit the unfollow button

    • Jarred Sutherland

      This was just like the time he spazzed out when Google pulled unpublished APIs from the Chromecast SDK and started firing off that it was a conspiracy and blah blah blah.

  • romma

    This is sad… Without all of the praise of ease for Rom manager, I doubt that I would have ever had the courage to root way back when. I don’t use it now, but it was very helpful initially. I hope Google doesn’t turn into an Apple like bully..

  • Travillion

    Yikes! First Chromecast issues, now ROM Manager. Not a good time for Koush and Google.

    • Adrynalyne

      Koush deserved the flack for Chromecast. He purposely circumvented Google’s requirements for whitelisting.

      • Travillion

        I’m not privy to all the politics, but I saw his very public outrage at Google for yanking his casting app. I assume that this will only further upset him. I’m kind of waiting for things to get really tense.

        • Adrynalyne

          People always complain when torrent sites are shut down too. Fact of the matter is, Koush took Google’s warnings and agreements very lightly about developing for the Chromecast before the SDK was public. His app suffered accordingly. He knew the risks, so it is on him.

          The correct path was to whitelist your receivers. He undermined Google in that manner. His own fault and really, its a good thing they don’t blacklist receivers from being used…

  • richie97

    It’s not like this policy is new. It’s been there for years.

    • Petro Dragoumanos

      I agree. Just because Google didn’t notice the violation of the policy that doesn’t mean it’s acceptable. It would be unfair to the developers who go through the trouble of following the policy.

  • Brandon Golway

    I think Google is kind of pissed about Cyanogen Inc, or just that he hacks their things.

    • Chris Hannan

      Why would they be pissed about that?

      • Brandon Golway

        No idea, but why would they remove a well known app after it has been in the Play Store for years? Not to mention not give him his 6 weeks like they have with his other apps.

    • Adrynalyne

      I recall a certain launcher developer who spouted off on twitter about how people copied his work for their own launchers, and then someone at Google (I forget who exactly) replied with something along the lines…and I wonder how many people used google’s launcher for their own projects? Which of course, he was part of that group…

      • Chris Hannan

        Source? I’d like to read about it.

        • Adrynalyne

          Source? I saw it unfold, but if I can find the tweets again, I will link it. This was a long time ago.

  • Pedro

    I haven’t installed it since, uhm, ICS.
    JRummy’s ROM Toolbox Pro does everything you need, along with nearly every other root function available.

    • Bigwavedave25

      Agreed. I left ROM Manager for ROM Toolbox quite a while ago.

    • hoodieNation

      Word. JRummy is the man and consistently updates his apps.

  • gambit07

    I’m actually happy about this. I paid for the touch version of ROM manager some time ago, but every time I would wipe and install a new ROM ROM Manager would tell me I had to pay again, with no way that I could see to verify the previous purchase. I moved to TWRP via goomanager and haven’t touched it since.

    • NorCalGuy

      Agreed it would be nice if they could fix that then I could get touch on all my devices not just my gnex. But in general especially with the update to 4.4.2 cwm seems to be updates much more quickly as well as seems to be more compatable with more custom Roms and tweaks. Just 2 cents from a crackflasher

      • Duck

        Had this happen once , emailed him and he sent me an activation code. Never had another issue.

    • creed

      Agreed. I am a little pissed that I ever spent money on that app (it’s expensive too), and it was never really supported by any rom developers. The only thing I was ever good for was being able to name a backup before it backed up.

    • joejoe5709

      I also paid for it years ago. Then I found it for free somewhere and never looked back. I don’t feel the least bit bad about downloading it for free because I have already contributed.

      • Tom Koeppel

        he offers the touch version of CWM recovery for free on his website, you just have to flash it using ABD

    • William Peterson

      I had the same issues. Moved to TWRP & never looked back.

    • Ralph Bretz

      Same here. Paid for ROM Manager 4 times but kept having problems. Sent multiple emails to Koush and nothing.

    • http://twitter.com/tarund TarunD

      Same here. I forgot to brought it up to Koush but am glad it’s being handled and to see others users had similar experience. I, too, moved to TWRP and haven’t had any problems.

  • Bigwavedave25

    Google is just pissed because he has his way with their chromecast dongle…

    • Adrynalyne

      Not pissed.

      Rolling their eyes at the most. Hope they don’t change the API again… ;)

      • Bigwavedave25

        Oh, I’m sure they will. At least the latest rumors are Google will open it up in a newer version! So much potential! :D :crosses fingers:

    • DreamSTi

      I’m pretty sure his allcast app doesnt work with the Chromecast.

  • David Rodriguez

    Glad I got my rooting business done yesterday.

  • Boblank84

    I didn’t know ROM manager has much of a user base anymore. I thought it kinda died off a few years ago, goo manager seems much more popular these days.

    • Brandon Golway

      Yea same here, I haven’t used it since my OG Droid and Droid Incredible days.

    • NorCalGuy

      Goo is sooo slooowwww for downloads I uaualy error out. Most devs now use medafire ( or at least most of them from xda)

      • Boblank84

        yeah, i don’t use it to download roms either, but i do use it for some other functions. mostly for flashing due to being able to flash, backup and wipe what you want w/o having to touch anything in recovery and then auto rebooting after the flash. sounds kinda lazy, but its nice.

  • StuckOnVerizonForever

    It’s that time of month again for Google, we’ll see it resolved next week.

  • sc0rch3d

    uh oh….google is bullying the new kid

    • Kyle Miller

      Koush ain’t new. But this yanking without notice or time to fix the issue needs to be addressed by Google!

      • Melad360

        koush has had 3 years to change his in app billing method..

      • Adrynalyne

        It was addressed. They removed it ;)

    • Bigwavedave25

      Since when is Koush a new kid? Ha, I’m sure he will handle this as he sees fit.

    • ian

      Koush was the cm developer for the droid incredible. Been around even longer.

    • calculatorwatch

      If there’s one thing Google doesn’t like it’s Android forks. Which is funny cause that’s kind of what they signed up for when they made it open source.