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Google Hangouts 2.0.122 With SMS Integration Rolling Out to All

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The new Google Hangouts with SMS integration, animated GIFs, and location sharing is now rolling out to the masses. First announced last week at a Google+ event, we were told it could be a “few” weeks before the update was officially ready for all. As of this morning it appears as if it is indeed ready since a number of readers have already received it. This is a newer version (2.0.122) than we saw pulled from the Nexus 5 last week, so you’ll definitely want to update. 

Here is the full changelog:

  •  SMS & MMS (Android 4.0+): Send/receive text messages with Hangouts! You can import your existing messages, quickly switch between SMS and Hangouts, and start group MMS conversations
  • Animated GIFs: send animated GIFs, cute kittens and all
  • Location: share a location in your conversations
  • Device, in-call, mood status: share what device you’re on, whether you’re on a call, or your current mood

If you’d like to sideload it, here are some download links.  Download Link [mirror]

Play Link

Cheers Damian, KPageisgreat, jasonlee6342, ThePatrickCraig, and everyone else!

  • 213ninja

    question for those who installed the nexus 5 hangouts…do i need to remove the N5 apk and roll back the video chat lib? or will this overwrite all of that stuff?

    • http://www.pcprocare.com/ Barry Taylor

      No, I wouldn’t. I received the update on my phone, and i was on the nexus 5 hangouts..

      • 213ninja

        Thanks

  • Antoine Colson

    I understand that some of us have bad texting apps. But Google needs to step it up and make Hangouts so useful that it will own iMessage. That means letting us users text from our computers. Others do it! Why not Google?

  • Chris L

    1.) How does it do with group MMS messages (like with a bunch of iMessage’rs)?
    2.) Does MMS work on T-Mobile WiFi calling? (My apartment has no service and other messaging programs fail to delivery MMS)

  • ecubuntu

    The APK is different from the Nexus 5?

    • http://www.pcprocare.com/ Barry Taylor

      Looks: no. Compatibility: Yes. My buddy has the s4 and the nexus 5 hangouts wouldn’t work for him. This one does. I received the update on my LG G2 this morning over the top of my Nexus 5 apk.

  • YEMan0443

    Anyone else having issues with MMS on Verizon? I had the 4.4 leak working fine and then side loaded the update. Now I can’t MMS in Hangouts. Galaxy S3

  • Drummer62

    I went into “manage apps” and “turned off” stock messaging app on Verizon Galaxy S4 and hangouts seems to work just fine. MMS are working fine as well. I installed SMS popup to get message pop ups and all is working nice! Stock messaging app no longer shows in app tray either. Guess turning it off makes it remove the icon from the app tray, also cool.

  • droidrazredge

    I just updated and it prompted with a message saying you can’t use SMS integration with hangouts. I was sadly disappointing when I found this out as I use GV to text as I don’t have regular texting. :(>

  • Stnkycheezman

    Reverted back to old hangouts…this shiz is lame.

    Still have to run stock messaging app in the background or sms through hangouts will crash…
    sms messages and Hangouts messages are separate threads so you can’t get on the computer and continue a sms conversation you had on your phone…
    If you snooze hangouts notifications on your computer, your sms sounds are snoozed on your phone as well…

  • d-rock

    Anyone get a N5 yet? Had a friend tell me that KitKat introduces this unification of messaging? I don’t buy it!

  • Dan

    What’s the “Account to show SMS in”? I don’t have that option on my N5…

    • Alex Cutler

      Neither do I on my N5 or N4 on O2 or Vodafone, on Hangouts 2.0 or 2.0.2! In fact there are a lot of options missing.

      And why is it only you & I so far that has seen this. It is a UK thing?

  • Adam Truelove

    Does this “delete” the Messaging app? If not, that’s going to confuse some people.

  • Raven65

    Mine won’t make me toast! What a POS!

  • Mike Strasser

    MMS Still hicupping on Verizon HTC Once

  • Joshyz73

    Still can’t go invisible. Still useless for me. That was a feature that Talk had. Why can’t they just put it back in there?!?

  • John H

    Is there way to set Hangouts as the default messaging app? Text messages are still loading in the stock app and I have turned notifications off.

    • Stnkycheezman

      try disabling the default messenger altogether

      • John H

        Was gonna do that, but the disable button was greyed out

        • Stnkycheezman

          I just tried it and hangouts crashes when you try to send an sms. messages must still have to go through the stock messaging app first…lame.

          • John H

            Stupid. So now my texts build up in both apps

  • Zac Illingworth-W.

    Is anyone still having an issue with MMS. Nothing I do seems to make it work

    • John H

      Mine is working fine, I just tested it from my Droid on VZW to a friend on a AT&T iPhone

      • Zac Illingworth-W.

        Maybe I’m better off uninstalling the sideload and waiting for the rollout of the Google Play App.

        • Alex h

          same with me. mms will not work in hangouts but works fine through messaging. i uninstalled the sideloaded one and waiting for the official release

  • adam lamb

    Still can’t get video chat working. Am i the only one?

  • Chente

    I had the leaked version installed, i uninstalled it and reinstalled from the play store but it only installed to 1.2 version of hangouts. What happened? Someone Help.

  • John H

    Does anyone know how I can get Hangouts to use the my contacts picture? I’m getting a default avatr on all my contacts.

    • 213ninja

      ^^ this

  • Brett Wcislo

    Does anyone know how to get the pictures of people to sync with Facebook? I really like this feature in messages, but would like to use Hangouts.

  • Jpx

    Still doesnt work for me… is it because I registered my actual sprint number as a google voice number?

  • Colton

    the bigger news is that droidlife uses mediafire, and for that we thank you

  • Hugh Hansen

    So disappointed with this update.

    All I want is to be able to send and receive texts from my desktop, so I don’t have to type for hours with my thumbs on my phone. Not only can the new Hangouts app not do that, but it’s not even unified on my phone.

    More and more I’m leaning toward going back to the Moto X when it gets KitKat.

  • IDLE0095

    MMS wasnt working on the verizon phones. But anyways I got the new version but I still have no option for sms or mms?

    • Steve B

      Did you turn it on?

      Open hangouts > Settings > SMS > Enable

      • IDLE0095

        That option isnt there at all.

        • IDLE0095

          My hangouts updated but not to this new version. I wonder if its because of the verizon mms issue

          • Esponito

            Mine wouldn’t update through Google Play (Google Play said v.2, but the app on my phone stayed at 1.2 after downloading/updating), so I side loaded it from the linked download mirror here.

            Also, my MMS didn’t work on my phone on the N5 version a few days ago (would freeze and crash), but it’s working now with this one.

        • Steve B

          Did you update through Google Play or download and sideload from the link above?

          If Google Play, you probably don’t have the update yet even though it may look like you have it.

          Open hangouts, go to settings > about hangouts and compare the build version to the one on Google Play.

          • IDLE0095

            Through google play

          • Steve B

            Check the version number…

          • IDLE0095

            I did its 1.2.018 but i just did the update on google play

          • Steve B

            When you opened hangouts the first time after updating did you get the SMS intro page?

            If not, you’re going to want to sideload the version linked above.

          • IDLE0095

            But does this version fix the mms issue with verizon?

          • Steve B

            What issue? I never had any issues with mms and verizon.

          • IDLE0095

            The issue when trying to send mms it would freeze hangouts
            its all over google.

          • IDLE0095

            I side loaded and it all works great. Well I didnt side load i just installed the apk

          • Steve B

            Same thing bro.

          • Steve B

            Well yeah, that wasn’t just Verizon. That was caused because we were all using a version of Hangouts made for the Nexus 5.

            I can confirm this is fixed, I just tried it on my Verizon GS3 and there is no longer any freeze.

          • Chente

            Same problem as you guys. Probably going to download the mirror version that was provided from the site. S3 Verison

  • Shahr

    Hi,

    If you SMS/MMS using the Hangouts, do you get charged by your carrier (don’t have the SMS bundle with my wireless plan)?

    thanks.

    • florious80

      If you look down, several people said you still need a texting plan. Hangouts just replaces your current SMS app.

  • chris_johns

    I was excited about this…and used it when the leak came out…but stopped n went back to seperate…it had glitches i wasnt happy about…some treads were still seperate even though i had their hangouts contact and their number previously…only my cousins sync’d where it was all in one thread…and the contact pictures went missing for some odd reason when they were there at one time or never at all…like my girls pic wouldnt show in the conversation window but in the actual text thread when it showed both places previously…also i have a group chat with four friends it showed all four in the conversation window then stopped n was blank….ish just irked me to no end…have these been ironed out? because until ti does i rather everythin seperate as much as i wanted this…

  • Shane C.

    I’m not getting the drop down box when clicking on someone’s name in conversation. In the early images and some people’s comments, there’s a drop box that gives you option for sms or hangouts. My conversations are just all in separate threads. Anyone else have this or a solution?

    • chris_johns

      yeah same thing with me

  • timbo

    This is odd. After installing the new update over the previously sideloaded version, I no longer see normal hangout chats?

    • timbo

      nevermind, just took a while to load…

  • lmarkov22

    MMS finally working with this apk. Was using another apk from the initial KitKat apps post and MMS was not working. Strange but whatever.

    • sc0rch3d

      the weird thing i figured out is that if you want to send a picture, it has to first convert the SMS to MMS then you can type your message after the picture is attached

  • schoat333

    I follow the link, and install from ym phone, but I’m still getting the old version even tho the description says 2.0.. what the?

    • Jeremy Alajajian

      Came here with the same issue. Hoping for a clarification

      • Jon Kruse

        Have you tried force stopping the app and then reopening it?

        • FunkyMonkey88

          Same here, and yes.

    • Stnkycheezman

      App update is “Rolling Out”. Even though the play store is showing you the latest version, It’s not available right away to everybody to download. Google has done this with their app updates in the past. If you can’t wait for google to get to you, then sideload it with the link that Kellex posted above.

      Believe me, once you get it…you’ll be telling yourself, “I could’ve waited” hahaha

    • lehons

      Just went through 3 cycles of uninstalling updates and updating to try to get it working. Finally read Stnkycheezman’s comment below.

  • https://twitter.com/paladaxar Paladaxar

    Does this still send SMS through your service provider? Or does it use wi-fi now to send and receive texts? I sure hope it uses wifi…that would be so helpful

    • Pandalero

      Yes. SMS/MMS still use the cell network.

  • Jordan

    I’m really disappointed this isn’t more iMessage like. Hopefully it’s just the beginning steps of getting a solution like that.

    • EC8CH

      I’ve heard (on the internet) there are patent issues with combining the sms and hangouts into a single thread. Lame.

      • Steve B

        Figures. F Apple.

  • Defenestratus

    NM just didn’t wait long enough. NOTHING TO SEE HERE MOVE ALONG :P

  • crazed_z06

    Just got the update

  • ArrTooDeeToo

    I don’t really see the point in this if it doesnt sync up sms and mms with hangouts across all of my devices so I can text from my tablet.

    • Pandalero

      It’s not a Google problem or a Hangouts problem, it’s a technology problem. Your tablet and/or computer are not associated with your phone number. SMS/MMS come and go over the cell phone network.

      • Defenestratus

        Right but the phone and tablet share my google account in common.

        • Pandalero

          SMS/MMS have nothing to do with your Google account. It’s your phone number.

          • EmoMorales

            Stop saying this–it’s completely false to suggest that you cannot sync devices and send SMS/MMS from devices that do not have a phone number. Many of us currently send SMS/MMS via MightyText from both our laptops and our tablets that are NOT “associated with your phone number.”

            Download MightyText and have a look for yourself.

            People want the new hangouts to do the same thing.

      • Aaron

        It’s a technology problem that apps like MightyText have already solved, so we know it’s completely possible. I can currently send SMS from my computer using MightyText, but I was hoping to see Google provide an improved solution along with the Hangouts integration. As it stands, having SMS integrated into Hangouts (only on my phone) does not add value for me.

        • Bionicman

          i hear that but i actually prefer hangouts than my Note 3 Samsung SMS program. its faster and has way better emoticons.

          • jmsbwmn

            So true! Samsung’s stock apps are ugly. Google is catching on to the fact that aesthetics matter. Hopefully Samsung catches up at some point, because their internals are excellent.

      • Lunkman

        Sadly, the Verizon Wireless Messaging App also solves this. Works with Droid Razr and Nexus 7 (2012)- no joke.

    • panicswhenubered

      I was kind of hoping Google would do what Apple did with iMessage and make sending SMS and Hangouts chat messages seamless. Instead, it separates them into separate conversation threads. They should be combined into a single conversation thread with a contact, with Hangouts service determining the best method to deliver the message. Oh well, this is still better than separate apps like before.

      • Chris Schmucker

        i think apple has a patent on threaded messaging

        • Antoine Colson

          this hypothetical-patent needs to explode badly.

    • Defenestratus

      I just noticed this. My friend I have an SMS and a Hangouts session with. I open up the SMS session, then I tap on his name at the top (next to the icon) and it pulls up a drop down where I can switch to the hangouts session. It appears that the combining of the conversations IS being done but its not automatically set to do so. Perhaps we’ll see a setting shortly that combines the conversations.

      • turdbogls

        yeah, i have a feeling we will get threaded sms/hangouts conversations eventually. while i am not super happy with the setup as it sits, its better than nothing. i really dont have many people that are “off line” anyway, i either text them, or message them, its almost never a combination of both.

    • JBartcaps

      Why would even think that this would be possible?

  • htowngtr

    Good to have the Nexus 5… already updated.

  • Mark Faustino

    Question: can you send animated gifs via MMS on Hangouts?

    • chris_johns

      i think this is a kitkat thing…so stupid how it took them this long to implement gif support

  • yungqb7

    Thanks for the link. I’m a bit impatient for the update to push through on my GS4. Hopefully this update addresses a few (very minor) issues I had when it first dropped. Overall I like that I get my sms/mms & hangout messages in one app. A few of my friends are just using hangouts exclusively now since the new update. Is it perfect? – No. However its a step forward though, so the only way to get “free” messaging where your sms/mms does not get touched is getting that person’s gmail.

  • SookRam

    Does anyone know if you’ll be able to get and send SMS/MMS from your Desktop?

    • Pandalero

      No. You can’t. SMS/MMS threads are only seen on the phone app, not on your tablet or the Chrome extension. Bummer, but it makes sense. iMessage is the same way.

      • SookRam

        Not quite as exciting then. The biggest reason I use Hangouts is my ability to respond to people when I’m using my desktop without having to constantly pick up my phone. Especially handy while at work. More excited about locations and animated gifs if that’s the case.

        • Pandalero

          I agree. I use DeskSMS for texting from my computer, so Hangouts and texts are still coming/going via desktop. I used to use Google Voice but the utter lack of support it got from Google drove me away… 4 years in and no MMS? Come on now. GV acts only as my voicemail and “home phone” number whenever a business needs it.

          • SookRam

            I had not heard of desksms. I will look into it. Thank you.

        • JRomeo

          continue to use hangouts when you are on your desktop or when you’re at work, simply login to hangouts in your desktop computer and send people hangout messages, or pictures, etc.

          • SookRam

            I will obviously continue using hangouts as I have, but was hoping it would integrate sms/mms to remove some of the need to pick up the phone. Unfortunately for me I know people who prefer WhatsApp or BBM, so I’ve got them all going. Looking into DeskSMS as Pandalero mentioned.

        • JBartcaps

          WHY DOES EVERYBODY THINK THEY CAN TEXT FROM THEIR TABLET OR PC NOW? That was never going to be the case, it never got mentioned, there were no rumors! iMessage can’t even do that that.

          • SookRam

            Why are you typing in all caps? You see the question mark I put at the end? That means I was asking a question. Questions usually means the person doesn’t know the answer and would like more information. How about you relax there buddy.

          • JBartcaps

            You see which comment I replied to “buddy”? No apparently not.
            The only way you’ll be abe able to respond to people on your desktop is if the person is also using hangouts

          • SookRam

            I see exactly what you responded to. I posed a question. Pandalero responded with a thoughtful response that not only answered my question but also provided a better understanding of how it works. I responded to him why I was asking and he provided me an alternative. This all happened about an hour before your response. Then you decided to add a douchey remark. I’m sorry I don’t understand how app integrations work like you do. I can fix that. You can not fix the fact that you act like a prick.

          • JBartcaps

            hahahah you said prick

          • Mike

            I do/did it with Google Voice all the time…Looks exactly like a hangout, but sends SMS. When they announced no Voice integration, we knew it likely wasn’t in the cards…but everyone still hoped.

    • Joshua Seeley

      If you happen to have the new moto x, as I do, there is a desktop app called Motorola connect that you can use to text/ call from desktop. I use it all the time while at work. I assume it works with the new droid line, but I’m not sure.

      Also, while this is cool, and glad to see some updates coming to hangouts, I don’t like the inability to have threaded conversations. In the meantime, I’ll stick with my DISA beta.

    • fartbubbler

      I can with my Moto X. “Moto Connect” lets me send/ receive texts from my desktop. Really pretty slick.

  • florious80

    While i’m happy that Hangouts now has SMS and MMS, where the hell is the VoIP calling option? Hurry up, iOS had it for a while now. It makes me sad to be an android fan…

    • http://randomphantasmagoria.com/ Shawn

      I’d venture to say that the only reason it has VoIP calling on iOS is because it can’t integrate directly with the dialer. In Android, you don’t need VoIP calling since it can integrate directly with the dialer. I realize that some people have very few minutes on their plans and thus, VoIP would be a “nice to have”, but I’d place down a heavy wager that Google couldn’t care less about that and that they have no plans to bring VoIP calling to Hangouts on Android. In their eyes, there’s probably no need for it, and I agree with them.

  • bboyairwreck

    Ever since using SMS integration, I have turned it off. Im really disappointed that they didnt COMBINE hangout messages and SMS. Theres nothing worse than seeing two different conversations for the same person. SMS was the feature i wanted the most but Google as a while to go. Also wish the SMS messages could be checked via Desktop. Not gonna win Apple people over

    • Pandalero

      I see this gripe a lot. But I don’t understand why you would SMS and chat with the same person? Wouldn’t it be either/or? I SMS peeps that don’t use Hangouts and I chat with those who do. This way you only have one thread for each contact, whether it’s SMS or a Hangout chat.

      • bboyairwreck

        For the same reason iMessage does it. Cuz if you’re in a place with no cell reception or no 3G/4G it can choose between either one.

        • Pandalero

          Good point. But in reality, how often are you in a place with no reception? Obviously this depends on where you live/travel.

          • Jordan

            It’s not just you, it’s also the people you chat with. But I agree that’s not that big of a deal.

            The big benefit in my opinion is if you meet someone new & get their number, it automatically figures out if they have iMessage or not. If they do, it sends it via iMessage as long as there aren’t any network issues.

      • d-rock

        It’s just smarter to do it this way. I want to send a message to my girlfriend. Let the app/network figure out the path. If she’s in one place, I know she can’t get a text message, but she may be able to get it on a computer. I shouldn’t have to figure out which one.

        Google really needs to INTEGRATE IT. It’s not impossible and they could do it, but well maybe there’s a patent issue?

        • Pandalero

          I agree. It certainly would be better, but I don’t see it as a deal breaker. That’s personal preference though.

          • bboyairwreck

            If were talking UX, User’s end goal is not to manage messages. The needs of user is to send a message. A well designed app would do the managing for the user. iMessage’s unified message service is one of the killer features on the iOS and OSX platform. Google can have a step above Apple by doing this cross-platform.

          • FrankBoston

            BINGO!

          • Joe Lachovsky

            Dead on, couldn’t have said it better.

          • 213ninja

            i like this but thought i read somewhere that Apple had a patent on something Google would need to make it unified. I don’t claim to know what I’m talking about, just something I read.

        • Jeff C

          true but iMessage works via phone number no? hangouts for non android users would be email. i chat with one of my buddies via desktop hangouts at work. so in order for his hangouts convo to them merge with his sms ones, his email and # would need to be identified as being the same person. make sense? did google get lazy? idk

          • d-rock

            iMessage works via both. You can use it on MAC, iPad, iPhone, iPod Touch. If you’re imessage available (on an idevice/mac), it will send it via network. If you’re not, it will send it via SMS/MMS.

      • Steve B

        This exactly.

    • TeeJay1100

      Chill, Google will update it accordingly. Enjoy that we have the sms integration option. Be grateful.

    • exactly

      Cancer isn’t worse?

      • bboyairwreck

        lol touche. Maybe I should rephrase my wording.

      • Blue Sun

        Cancer or iCancer?

    • Defenestratus

      They are combined – just not intuitively. Go to an SMS conversation with a contact with whom you have a hangouts session as well. Tap on their name. It will bring up a link to the Hangouts session. There is linking going on apparently.

    • Devon

      I just don’t like the fact that my g+ circles are the first suggestions when I type to look for a contact. Half the people in my circles are people I will never know in a science circle. How the hell do I hide those results? I don’t want to display any g+ contacts

  • Scott Kart

    Does this replace your stock messaging app or do you have to disable it in order to use this for sms?

    • T S

      now that it has MMS support, you can now replace your stock messaging app with this.

      • Scott Kart

        I understand this…but how does your phone differentiate between messaging apps? I remember seeing that on Kitkat…android will prompt you to choose your default messaging app…but what about <4.4

        • Ben Johnson

          I had to disable the notifications on my stock messaging app, seems like these texts may still go to the stock sms app, but I wont get notifications for them at least.

        • T S

          what Ben said. if you have more than one sms app, you’ll have to disable notifications and/or disable auto retrieve on the other apps.

  • Korey Page

    I’m just happy that MMS works. I know some see this update as redundant by the inclusion of SMS/MMS but it was needed. Most are bummed that it isn’t as streamlined as iMessage.

  • Defenestratus

    if MMS works on my carrier with this then I’ll be jumping for joy.

  • Ted Ockels

    So, can this replace SMS and MMS altogether? Will I be able to stop paying AT&T for text messages each month… or does it not work like that?

    • KenBarnum

      No, It just can become your default sms/mms app. Your plan is unaffected.

    • Korey Page

      Doesn’t work like that. Still need a texting package.

    • Pandalero

      No. SMS and MMS still go thru your carrier. The new Hangouts app just keeps texts and Hangout chats in one app.

    • Eric Bright

      I need Hangouts to replace SMS and remove it from my phone too.

  • Sam

    Now waiting until I can send and receive text via google voice number!

    • Jordan

      & MMS! Or at least a freaking message saying somebody tried to send you one.

  • Ryan Gullett

    Am I the only one who is not thrilled about this? I just feel like the hangouts performance is kinda laggy and slow. I feel like on my moto X the stock messaging app and Textra SMS perform much better. Or are people excited about this because it includes hangouts and they are willing to sacrifice?

    If you don’t use hangouts that much, I don’t feel like hangouts is the best SMS option. Am I the only one feeling this way?

    • Jed Weeks

      You don’t have to use it if you don’t want to.

      • Ryan Gullett

        I understand that. I just see many people excited about this, and I was curious if I am the only one who notices anything.

        • Jed Weeks

          I haven’t noticed lag on my N4, and I generally like the combination of MMS/SMS into it, but it definitely would be better if it automatically determined how to send messages and put them all inline instead of making the user decide.

          • malcmilli

            dont notice any lag i just hate the hangouts interface, i have to close my conversations just to get back to buddy list menu and you still cant tell of someone you are in a conversation with logs off. Its really annoying.

          • Grizzly Atoms

            Its supposed to be like texting, not live chats. When you text someone, do you only send it if you know they have their phone in their hand? How about an email? That issue just seems trival to me, because the second they turn on their screen they will see a notification just like anything.

          • malcmilli

            but it is a live chat. If you are both sitting on your desktop, messages go through instantly, n the moment they sign off, it goes “grizzly atoms” did not receive your message.

            So if im on my phone and they are on their desktop, n they sign off, i can just keep messaging them, directions or questions or what have you, meanwhile this entire time they have been signed off and i have no idea, and that individual wont get my questions until the next time they log onto their computer? That’s silly. It would be one thing if it automatically turned into an text but it doesnt.

            Since when is it not live chatting? It’s always been live chatting.

          • Grizzly Atoms

            So your issue is that, you can send someone a message when they aren’t on? That seems silly to me. Hangouts has been the way it is currently is since inception. On mobile you can send messages to anyone in your circles at anytime, just like on Gtalk before it.

            I remember before hangout was a thing on gtalk you would see “*NAME* isn’t on Hangouts right now. He’ll see your messages later” and it hasn’t changed at all.

            Also the “buddy list window” as you call it can be accessed by pressing the PLUS sign in the top right corner of the screen, you don’t have to close all of your conversations. It honestly just seems like you don’t have a firm grasp on what the product is.

            Edit: When you click the plus sign, there is a green icon next to peoples names that lets you know that in some way, they are seeing notifications. Maybe your friends just don’t want to reply? Not trying to be mean just trying to understand.

          • malcmilli

            no my issue isnt that you can send a message why they are away my issue is that you have to back out of the conversation to see that they are away. While in the conversation window if you send a message n they sign off and you send another they do not inform you. You have no idea the status of the individual you are current talking to (whether that be away, busy, online, offline, what have you) inside the chat window.

            As you said it used to say *name* isnt on googletalk right now… and it currently does not do that in hangouts. that’s my problem. Not a huge deal breaker, its just plenty annoying enough make me want to install gtalk, which is hard to do when you have android 4.3.

            You are implying that hangouts isnt a live chat app, which is exactly what it is. If it was supposed to be like a text message, then it wouldnt tell you who was online in the first place.

            sidenote: thank you for the plus sign i didnt know that tid bit, that helps, but it still inconvenient to have to back out of the conversation to check if they are still online or not.

          • Grizzly Atoms

            It works the same on desktops as it did before and it is working as it ALWAYS has on android phones. You are someone who doesn’t handle change well but after time you’ll stop trying to install that old gtalk app.

          • malcmilli

            Maybe it’s difference of opinion or maybe you still don’t understand what I’m saying. I know the hangouts is the same… actually no the hangouts mobile app is better than initially launched because at initial launch it was hard to tell who was on-line and who wasn’t. They updated that with those new green dots. I’m not opposed to change as long as the change is better or even the same but different, cuz I like new. What I’m saying is the hangout app when originally released was worse than the Google talk app because it lacked some of conveniences the Google app had. It’s better now but it still isn’t perfect which is why plenty of reviews say as much. It’s not about change its about the new hangout apps regressing from the features I appreciated in Google talk. As soon as they add in the option to see if who you are talking tois online or offline I’ll be happy. I’m all for change my friend I would love for ui changes to come in every version of android. It’s not that at all.

        • Grizzly Atoms

          No lag on Note 2 what so ever. This will get more people on Google+ so that hangouts will be useful.

    • athom07

      yes

    • CompCrash

      My brother is the same way, he actaully doesn’t have the Gapps installed at all. Uses F-Droid to get apps.

    • Benjamin Clay

      Messaging app still works if you aren’t satisfied with it

    • Defenestratus

      I used to think Hangouts was bloated and slow until I got a Note 3. Runs pretty damn quick now :D

    • Mike Boodoo

      Yes, it hangs badly when I first open it. Very annoying.

      • Ryan Gullett

        I did notice a little performance increase in the new update. Good news.

    • malcmilli

      dont worry, i have n4 and i hate hangouts app, i dont want my messages integrated into an interface i already cant stand. I also heard poor reviews of its integration.

    • turdbogls

      other than the slow load up on my g-nex (N5 is fast enough that it doesn’t bother me) i am impressed with the scrolling performance on hangouts. smooth even on my g-nex.

    • BaconEater

      It ran like shi t on my galaxy nexus. Runs perfectly on my S4. These newer phones seem to run apps much better, obviously.

    • JBartcaps

      Its pretty fluid on my Moto X

  • bd1212

    Sweet working MMS.

  • AxemRed

    And.. MMS works. Yay!

    • Cael

      When did it not?

      • Patrick

        I had an issue where I was unable to receive MMS’s after installing one of the leaked versions. Tried rebooting and everything, didnt work. Removed the leaked version of hangouts, downloaded the play store version and I was getting MMS’s again. I didnt hear of anyone else having the same issue though so idk

        • BaconEater

          Yeah, MMS wouldn’t come in at all if enabled. I can now switch back, yay!

        • Jeralmac

          I had the same issue you had. Been using the leaked N5 version and tried multiple times but simply couldn’t receive MMS. The native app would recognize them just not hangouts. Now with this new play store version, they are indeed working again.

        • Cael

          Sorry to hear that. I had a hiccup the first time I sent a MMS but after that I’ve received and sent fine on the leaked.

    • picaso86

      It always worked!!!

  • Colton

    IT IS TIME