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Google Announces New Hangouts Features: SMS, Location Sharing, and Animated GIFs

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During this morning’s Google+ event, Vic Gundotra announced that they will introduce three major new features to Hangouts on Android. The first is SMS integration. Yes, “IT’S HAPPENING.” Gundotra didn’t say MMS, but at least you’ll finally be able to integrate the text experience on your phone with Hangouts, something you have been asking for since Google I/O.

We’ll also get the ability to share our location with friends through a simple location button tap, and share animated GIFs through chats. There was no mention of Google Voice or calling integration.

All of the slides during the presentation say “today,” so the update should go live later on. We’ll be sure to pass it along as soon as we see it.

Update:  The official release timeline out of Google is “in a few days.”

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  • Steve

    The main reason I like hangouts is because you can send/receive over WiFi and everything works so much faster…especially in a basement and areas with minimal reception. Will this be true in sending SMS messages in that WiFi will be able to be used to send/receive….or does all this do is add non-hangouts users to my hangouts list so i don’t have to switch to my messaging app to message them? Does anyone know the answer to this question?

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  • t3chi3

    Even if it does have SMS i still prefer GO SMS Pro

    • Fresh360

      If it had that ‘Private Box’ I would drop GoSMS…Thats its killer feature

  • Alex Hutchins

    iPhone can make calls from within Hangouts using your Google Voice number, but Android? Nah.

  • chris_johns

    There needs to be some cross platform coding standardization… For example im in a long standing group chat with 4 my boys…all have iphones except me until recently one got a gs3…since he got the gs3 only his msgs come in through his actual text thread not the group… I can tell bc they come in as mms no subject…so annoying… Another prob comes to videos…if one iphone guy sends a video i get the full length but at crappy quality.. where they get it at full quality…i can only send a 5sec clip video at crap quality…if hangouts can integrate all features of ichat(gotta give it to apple for that one..n only that one) then that would solve everything… But stupid Sammy will have to get up to date also n not use their own text app to be special…im running a droid hd stock im app on carbonrom so i have group chat

  • Cameron

    Why is everyone complaining about not having MMS support? Hangouts does everything that you need MMS for. Group messaging, sending pictures,… What else do you need?

    • chris_johns

      Cross platform…people not on android not going to be using hangouts

      • Cameron

        There is an iOS app. Works just the same. Should be considered the first “cross platform” messaging app

        • Brian Wolfman

          Why would my friends want to get hangouts when iMessage works just fine for them?

  • Mark the retiever

    Did anyone else notice this? maybe they dont want to show the per app coloured, paranoid android like statusbar…

    • chris_johns

      Lol nice…id prefer an option to change the halo ui to any color i want

      • Mark the retiever

        That is not going to happen.

        • chris_johns

          Can’t a man dream? Would make a locked phone pill easier to swallow

          • Mark the retiever

            I already enjoy it on my Nexus 7 with PA, but my HTC One X is just too precious to root… :( So it would be amazing to have all those features on stock.

          • chris_johns

            Exactly… Like i just put an orange halo ui theme with theme chooser on my phone…why cant they juat have an rbg slider that changes the whole halo ui color…cant be to difficult to code

  • Mvasquez

    Ok since he didn’t say anything about mms.. Then how are we going to receive picture messages?

  • Michael Nichols

    “IT’S ABOUT DAMNN TIME” -LeBron James voice

  • http://www.techmantis.net/ Minja Miketa

    Sms on hangouts was one ifthe biggest I thingsi wanted from KitKat. I’m be refreshing this page all day waiting for the apk

  • Clint Torrez

    So here is what I am wondering.  Will I be able to text from my iPad or Android tablet?  

    Let’s say I receive a SMS on my phone from someone who does not use Hangouts.  Since Hangouts is receiving the text, will it sync with the Google servers and show up on my tablet?  In that case, my reply would then be sent from my tablet, to the Google servers, sync with Hangouts on my phone, and be sent as an SMS to the recipient who does not use Hangouts.

    This is what I want.  

    • PhillipCun

      DeskSMS + TabletSMS or MightyText

      • Jeff

        I’m sure those are all fantastic, but I’d personally rather not have to use third party apps. I also hope that SMS in Hangouts will sync across to devices that don’t have mobile data.

    • chris_johns

      Tablettalk

    • DC_Guy

      That’s what I want too! I want Hangouts conversations too sync across all devices (phone, tablets, computers). It would be cool if it had the ability to show all texts/responses as coming from your phone number (if you choose), like iMessage allows. I happen to really like having that option.

  • Jeff C

    feel like not having MMS support will make it a pain to use this as a primary texting app and then have to switch between 2 of them for MMS

    • Steve B

      Google must have a plan for this since Hangouts will be the only messaging app in Kit Kat.

    • Jroc869, Nexus-Life

      It would be like using the first couple I phones that didn’t support MMS. Smdh Google.

    • Fresh360

      Maybe I am slow 2day but I know what MMS is (I promise I do) but you already have the ability to send images (and now GIfs) thru hangouts. Now with the SMS intergration do you believe this will no longer work if a person is recognized as a text receipent and not a Hangouts user?
      Furthermore if messaging is being removed totally from 4.4 as we suspect cant we assume (I know u should never assume) that Hangouts natively supports MMS?

      • Jeff C

        if your assumptions are right we have no need to worry! but im just confused as to what happens if youre wrong, and i wanna send a pic to some1 i text from hangouts, but doesnt use hangouts themself

  • http://scribblepeople.net Mike

    oooh la la

  • Brian Wolfman

    IF there is no MMS support it means no group messaging which means….this is useless to a lot of people. Ugh, lets hope for MMS

  • Nick Floria

    So it seems we will be waiting for hangouts for a few days.

    • http://www.scaryuncledevin.com/ Devin Rodriguez

      Less time than Half Life 3.

      • Nick Floria

        lol true.

  • qwerty

    this might be a stupid question, but would this send texts from phones to my tablet through hangouts? Virtually everyone I know has iPhones and uses the stock app to text so this doesn’t really do much for me unless i could also receive and respond to texts from my tablet

    • http://www.scaryuncledevin.com/ Devin Rodriguez

      We won’t know until we have it in hand later today.

  • Upper_Luper

    By the looks of the picture it seems that they are going to segregate sms and hangouts chats inside the app. I would like to see both conversations under the same screen/ontact. Also, from the picture it seems like if they are also going to support MMS, but what I really want is MMS for group conversations. I hate to admit it, but iMessages got it right from the start.

    • DC_Guy

      Yes, I agree. Apple got it right with iMessage but looks like Google is fighting back.

      • Brian Wolfman

        Without MMS, its only a half ass attempt. This is simple, we need MMS for group messaging. iMessage does it. Hangouts NEEDS to do it or it will always be second best.

        • Adrynalyne

          iMessage does it because Apple was able to get the carriers to bend over and spread them. Even SMS uses data on an iPhone, and they convinced carriers not to charge data usage for it.

          • chris_johns

            This is an interesting note… I never thought about the data implications of imessage texting as it uses data but a person might have a limited data package and think they just texting not using data…hmm how does that work n how will Google and kitkat handle this

          • Adrynalyne

            I am reasonably sure that Apple has cut a deal with carriers to not count SMS from iPhones as data. My daughter’s messages never show in the VZW data counter. They are definitely using data though. That is the only way they could pull off that neat little trick of showing when someone is typing.

          • chris_johns

            Exactly… Must be some code in the message that allows carriers to filter out the tiny data portions used during those messages and not use it against data tiers(if you unfortunately have one)

          • Adrynalyne

            That would be my guess too.

          • Pedro

            I believe that SMS is just sent over the constant communication that any phone has with the tower. If there is an open packet, then the SMS is sent/received.
            Phone companies found a way to charge you a dime for bandwidth that they were not using. I’m sure VZW lead the way.

            I have no idea why Twitter chose 140 character messages, but that’s the exact size of the constant communications between phone and tower.

            edit: tl;dr:: SMS is sent over normal phone/tower communications. Not the modem.

          • Adrynalyne

            Right, but for Apple, it isn’t communicating via tower. At least, not directly.

            Edit: Not even “not directly”. There is a constant open data connection between two recipients.

          • Pedro

            SMS and iMessage are two different things.

            SMS is a standard. iMessage is a proprietary protocol. Not having an iPhone, I won’t try and contradict you.
            Maybe Apple uses their open channel as an open SMS/MMS path?

          • Adrynalyne

            Maybe I am mixing up my stuff here. I assumed that iMessage was what was being used for SMS. I can double check this on my daughter’s phone when I get home. Whenever you send a text message to another iPhone, you can see a typing indicator to let you know they are composing. This usage does not count against data, so I (and perhaps wrongly) assumed that it was counting towards SMS. I will need to research further. Its definitely not an open SMS path, unless (again I could be wrong) SMS has some realtime update capabilities.

          • KR

            I’m not sure how it handles it, but I’ve recently started making all calls over data, after switching to a somewhat limited data plan, and the amount of data it uses isn’t very much (185 MB for a month). That’s about 40-60 minutes worth of calls, daily, along with a dedicated VoIP app running constantly.

            In fact, now that I think of it, I also use my GV # as a primary for texting, and the data usage is negligible (less than 200 KB).

            In other words, I wouldn’t worry, even on a 2 GB plan.

    • LionStone

      HTC (DNA) has had group mms…

      • Adrynalyne

        So does Samsung.

        Android does not have a native application that supports it though, nor has Google built one. I am guessing thats what he wants.

        • Brian Wolfman

          Samsung only has it on the S4, S3 does it to other S3’s only (kinda dumb and useless). Moto does it, and 4.3 has it. My Verizon G2 does it. If this doesnt do it, its a huge failure.

          • Adrynalyne

            Note II does as well. Group MMS will die out, because it isn’t always included with a data package from the carrier.

            There is no advantage of using MMS over a more superior method that doesn’t compress things all to hell, aside from being tied to a phone number.

          • Brian Wolfman

            it wont die out in america. Its needed for group messaging and sending pictures as long as everyone is not on the same device (iOS or Android). The only way would be if they all got together for a way to send it through noncellular data.

          • Adrynalyne

            Never say never. It is destined to die here, simply because of ridiculous carrier costs if it isn’t unlimited for you.

          • Brian Wolfman

            So how will my mother send pictures on her older flip phone?

          • Adrynalyne

            Did you see me mentioning a timeline?

            Those old flips will eventually be going to VoLTE, removing ANY need for SMS and MMS. They can both use regular data.

          • arthuruscg

            I don’t see the dumb phones going away any time soon. I am thinking at least 6 + years.

          • Adrynalyne

            Maybe not even then. What will go away is GSM and CDMA, which means SMS will have to be reworked into a data service.

          • Brian Wolfman

            The only way I could see MMS go away would be in years…maybe 5-10 years at least.

          • Adrynalyne

            In the greater scheme of things 5-10 years isn’t that long.

          • anna willoughby

            5-10 years really is not long at all…I’m 26 and I don’t think that’s long.

        • BobbyG

          its native in android 4.2 now

          • Adrynalyne

            You sure?

          • BobbyG

            Group MMS right? It was added in the nativice SMS with 4.2. A few ROMS had it before that and Google finally included it with 4.2

          • Adrynalyne

            Then what is Upper_Luper going on about? LOL.

          • BobbyG

            not really sure. All I know is I’ve had Group MMS on my GNEX for the past year

    • dcdttu

      Oh good lord, they aren’t going to be the same thread????? The freaking Palm Pre did that YEARS ago.

      Why would I want SMS in a different thread? Its like I care which way it was sent. I really hope this isn’t the case, because if so it’s stupid.

      /rant

  • anna willoughby

    Yaaaaaay

    • Chippah

      ^ Next Stop!. ^ Tss Tss.

  • Matt

    Honest question – and apologize if this has been (likely) asked many times – but will the SMS integration replace the stock messenger app? As in, I’m one of the people that still pays monthly for a texting plan – will I be able to cancel that texting plan directly from VZW and solely use Hangouts?

    • trwb

      I think you will need to get a separate Google voice number first and integrate that into hangouts. Not totally sure but the way I bypass my att text plan is to use my Google voice number

      • Steve B

        If you’re an Android user and don’t already have a Google Voice number you’re doing it wrong.

      • Matt

        Thanks for the info – ha and I figured I would get that response – have been lazy in finally going in and figuring GV out. But if using GV and the Hangouts SMS integration, I’m guessing its about time to finally set one up. Thanks.

        • trwb

          GV is a great cross platform service. Just be aware Google may gather some data from you as you use it, just like they do with gmail.

          • anezarati

            they could also start charging for it one day

  • Kahsay Cooley

    Omg sms….. now we actually have to wait again…….

  • trwb

    Not live in Google Play. Thanks for announcing the nex5. Appreciate it.

  • Larry Wei

    Worried about MMS mainly for group messaging. A lot of people still use iPhones…

    • Brian Wolfman

      without mms…there is no group messaging…and I cant use it. Took google forever to finally incorporate group messaging into stock SMS/MMS…now theyll break it again. Come on google!

      • MikeSaver

        ^ THIS

        It’s also the #1 hang up I hear from people with iPhones about why they switched to iOS or why they won’t leave. Group messaging. And don’t tell me to just tell them to get Hangouts.

    • Droid4ever

      iPhones? What’s that?

    • dcdttu

      Since the most recent update for Hangouts on iOS, the app actually works fairly well. I’ve gotten my friends to switch to Hangouts from iMessage. We LOVE the fact that you can message from your computer, phone, tablet.

  • Joshua Bailey

    I need the ah-pa-ka…ah-pa-ka? I’m reading it right but it just doesn’t sound familiar…

    • Matthew DiGiacomo

      Classic

  • Hatyrei

    nO NEXUS 5 :(

  • Tom Luley

    Nerdgasm.

  • HowEasy

    Yeah now time for the Nex-…… Wait….. Its over?

  • J Dub

    When is this going live in the Play Store?

    • Kevin

      today i guess… and probably pushed out nice and slow

      • Adrynalyne

        Don’t think it will be today. Only server side stuff is rolling out today.

  • DC_Guy

    I’m really happy about the addition of SMS to Hangouts! Now my Note 3 will be nearly perfect! I love Google so much right now! Oh yeah and they made some pretty nice updates to G+ as well.

  • Frettfreak

    OMG… WHY WOULD THEY DO SMS AND NOT MMS. WTF GOOGLE!!! WHY?!?!?!??!?

    • Steve B

      Because MMS is dead.

      • Frettfreak

        yeah, OK. I agree that sending a pic over MMS sucks. HOWEVER, there are a ton of people that still use it. A lot of people dont have smartphones and still send pics. Your statement should be dead.

        • Steve B

          Well, you guys bitching about MMS should lead the charge in killing it. I’ve moved all of my friends and family away from MMS because it kills the resolution of the picture. Pics through Hangouts, G+, FB or email are the only way to go.

          • Drome

            i live in san francisco and the overwhelming majority of people here have iphones. You really think I am going to be able to convince all of my friends to switch to hangouts from iMessage? I am not saying hang outs isn’t awesome, but Android needs to be backwards compatible until iOS gets rid of MMS as well. Group texting is a critical part of communication in my demographic

          • Frettfreak

            10000% agree. thats just how it is right now. As much as i would not like it to be, this is the truth

      • Adrynalyne

        MMS is far from dead.

        It might be hacking some blood and stumbling, but it will be years before it actually dies.

  • ERIFNOMI

    OK Google, push me the update.

  • Adam Neighbors

    Google announces that they finally add SMS support to hangouts, which people have been begging for for months, and all they comments are about how they didn’t add Voice support too. SMH -_- just don’t make sense, people.

    • Jarred Sutherland

      You’ve apparently missed all the people using GV and begging for this too. So actually, it makes perfect sense.

      • Adam Neighbors

        No, actually, I use GV everyday and am eager to have it integrated as well. However, I also know how to be thankful when we win something and not just complain about what’s not yet to come. We’re 50% there and people are focusing on the 50% we don’t have.

        • jayray78

          Mission accomplished. Time to move on to the next battle.

        • Luxferro

          I think we should be allowed to complain after iOS got GV integration a week or 2 ago, and today we just get SMS in hangouts. Not many people care about hangouts unless it can replace GV totally – or maybe that just applies to GV users. I really don’t know anyone that uses hangouts…

  • Jarred Sutherland

    This is great news. It’s about time they merged functionality of the two apps. I just wonder how they are going to pound it into the heads of the masses that it will do both roles now…

    • ERIFNOMI

      Replace messaging in Kit Kat with Hangouts.

      • Steve B

        This.

  • Kevin

    willl they make the smileys bigger so i can actually see them?

  • zombiewolf115

    now this isnt troll or anything but id truely would like to know wat is the big deal for this google hangout sms support?

    • Ian Smith

      unification of services & competition for apple’s slick imessage, ability to send sms via internet connection, receiving sms on tablets at home, and much more

      • zombiewolf115

        i dont see the point to be honest. i have hangout disabled cause i simply dont use the bloody thing. and i practically either txt people, or use kik,

        • socarwolverine

          Yeah, but a lot of people do use hangouts, besides it’s easier for google from here on out to not have to worry about coding two different apps.

          • zombiewolf115

            its just i have alot of people who have android devices but they simply never use hangouts lol so makes the need to use hangouts simply vanish

          • Steve B

            Or you can do as I have and convert all your friends to Hangouts. It’s completely free and has more features than traditional SMS.

          • PSU_DI

            They’ll be using hangouts a lot in the near feature. Google is no longer going to have the “messaging” app you’ll only be using Hangouts or a 3rd party app to handle SMS, there was a new API introduced in Kitkat to handle what the default app is. More than likely consumers will use hangouts as the default for SMS and then they’ll notice that they can video chat, send photos, & emijos with out ever needing a 3rd party app.

        • Ian Smith

          to each their own

    • Steve B

      Android users want an all-in-one messenger client.

    • socarwolverine

      I think this question gets asked every time Hangouts and SMS are mentioned in the same breath. The short of it is, you won’t need two separate apps to handle text communication.

      • Matt Upton

        Plus the default SMS messenger is awful on most phones.

        • Inquizitor

          Honestly how? I don’t see why the stock Android messaging app is bad.

  • Smeckle

    Slightly related/unrelated: does anybody know how to remove pictures in Hangouts? I occasionally send screenshots and then they show up in their own individual conversation folders in Gallery. I can’t delete the folders from Gallery and Hangouts won’t let me delete the picture from the conversation.

    • Adrynalyne

      Delete them from your picasa web gallery. They are listed under the hangout.

      • Smeckle

        Thanks!

  • Abgar Musayelyan

    please tell me that kitkat wont have the messaging app.

    • turdbogls

      it will….but you can use hangouts (or any other app) instead of it. they wont just get rid of it…there are still people out there that want to keep SMS seperate from messaging….for some reason ;)

      • mgamerz

        Some phones (not nexus ones, well I guess they do too) don’t require you to sign into a google account. Though you miss out on a lot of stuff.

    • KanishkSingh

      With kitkat update only one SMS app can access the sms database. So you can still choose 3rd party app or might be they will still have the text app with AOSP.

    • A.Miller

      I have been using Handscent SMS for years. I LOVE the popup box that comes when I get a new text.

      Is there a way to do this w/ Hangouts?

  • tyguy829

    So if I use Google Voice for texting, I still can’t use this?

    • Steve B

      I imagine so. When I open Hangouts, tap settings and scroll to the bottom, it shows not only my Verizon number, but also my Google Voice number. I bet you can choose which number to text from.

      • tyguy829

        Hopefully. That would be awesome…

      • LionStone

        I don’t think it allows for which # to choose from in this setting…all I get is a confirmation of those #’s, to edit and for others to find you easier.

  • Higher_Ground

    Finally! I’ve been waiting for them to implement a way for me to share my location with others. Texting and talking were just too darn difficult.

    • Ian Smith

      looks pretty slick in the screenshot too!

  • StargateNH

    So if they don’t do MMS, I will still have to use 2 apps for messaging just like I do now. The integrated Messaging app and Hangouts. #fail

    • Kevin

      i’d hope it’s on its way

      • Ian Smith

        only one way to find out.

        • Kevin

          a hostile takeover of google headquarters?

          • Ian Smith

            precisely

      • StargateNH

        I hope so too.

    • joejoe5709

      I agree, unfortunately. I want full text messaging support on any device I’m using. Otherwise, I’m *still* not going to use Hangouts. Grrr…

      • A.Miller

        Agreed. Very few of my friends (maybe none) are interested enough in tech to switch to Hangouts.

        iMessage just makes it simply for non tech peeps.

    • Blake Smith

      What integrated messaging app are you using?

      • StargateNH

        The standard AOSP SMS/MMS app that comes with my ROM (Liquidsmooth or Slimbean). As well as Hangouts for those friends that use it.

  • Tim Swann

    What I want to know about the sms support is this though. Will messages I send in Hangouts automatically go to hangouts for recipients if I have a gmail email for them? (basically go to hangouts). I have a lot of contacts with gmail emails but they don’t use hangouts.

    Since when you use Hangouts the first time on your phone it confirms your phone number I don’t see why this can’t work. For this to really take of though, Hangouts needs to be the stock Messaging app. Basically, if this is seamless integration like iMessage, this is great news otherwise it’s not as big of an announcement as it sounds.

  • Brien Gerber

    Wooo SMS!

  • http://www.droid-life.com/ Eric Rees

    Let me get that for you.

  • http://thebeeobee.com/ thebeeobee

    Huh? I always put animated gifs in hangouts.

  • Cory_S

    Google, why do you hate Voice?

    • teleclimber

      Did they mention anything about GVoice in the presentation? I’m unable to watch it.

      • mgamerz

        nope

    • T4rd

      Because it’s a nice, useful tool, and those are the only kind that Google kills off.

      • Jarred Sutherland

        Sad to say .. but true. Trying to go GV only is a miserable pain .. at least it was when I tried it months ago with T-mobile and the N4.

        • moelsen8

          eh, it’s not that bad. but it is neglected.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            I guess that’s what drives me nuts about the 10 million cool things Google comes up with. It eventually sits stale for so long that it loses that “awesome” factor. Google TV burned me two times .. never again GTV, never again. :(

          • moelsen8

            ah GTV. i had a revue, what a piece of garbage. but such potential.

          • JRomeo

            I usually never buy 1st gen tech. this way you’ll always know if its a good buy or not based on the reviews.

          • moelsen8

            eh, i jumped when it went to $99.. i had enough forewarning. but it did have a cool factor. then it stopped turning on until i did a hard factory reset. that was a monthly ordeal until i unplugged it permanently. ugh.

          • Frettfreak

            No.. but ANDROID TV… we havent been burned by that yet!! ;)

        • teleclimber

          How is it a miserable pain? I mean yeah the app blows. It’s incredibly bad. But the integration with the phone works fine for me. T-mo never gave me any problems with it, and it works like a charm.

        • ビッググリーン

          did you use talkatone along with google voice?

      • Ben Murphy

        I’m still stung over the Reader kill off

        • panicswhenubered

          Don’t forget, if you use iGoogle, it will only be around for another 3 days :(

          • Aceplanet

            Oh man, I didn’t even know this was a thing until just now. This sucks! why are they killing it off! It looks extremely useful.

          • anna willoughby

            Wow, I had no idea iGoogle was still around.

      • http://randomphantasmagoria.com/ Shawn

        I’d say it’s because Google Voice costs them a ton of money to operate for almost zero return on investment.

        • morgan boyle

          i use Google Voice as my main number. if they kill it off, i will be really pissed. but they do get a lot of voice recognition information from it.

          • http://randomphantasmagoria.com/ Shawn

            Do you really have a right to be pissed, though? You allowed yourself to become reliant on a free service. That’s not Google’s fault. If you paid for Google Voice, then I’d be right there with you.

          • Droidzilla

            They can’t; phone numbers are regulated. They’ll simply continue to ignore Voice until all of its features are put into Hangouts, and I’m just fine with that.

          • Evan

            I paid $20 for Google Voice number porting. Does that count?

          • morgan boyle

            i would be OK if i could port the number away from google voice. but i dont want to deal with switching numbers again after just a few years.

          • Brendan Owens

            You can port out of Google Voice. I did it. Just Google it and it will come up in a Google support forum

          • morgan boyle

            i wont be doing that until i can get all my messages via hangouts. im addicted to text via browser and being synced between devices.

        • ssiliveri

          I use Google voice to make my international calls, I am paying at par with other VOIP operators .. it’s not completely free,

          • http://randomphantasmagoria.com/ Shawn

            Fair enough, though I’d be willing to bet that less than 10% of Google Voice users have ever made an international call with it.

        • michael arazan

          The only way to make money on GVoice is to pause your conversation once a minute for a commercial that you can skip after 5 seconds.

    • http://hearthstone.wow-panda.com/ Bence Borovi

      Because location sharing, GIFs, and SMS are available everywhere in the world, while Voice is US and Canada only (maybe, well it’s not available in hungary for sure).

    • LucasMonroe

      iOS has voice integration so surely this app will. Right?

      • Cory_S

        It has partial integration. it can make/receive Voice phone calls…but it cant do Voice SMS.

        • Matt Upton

          Uhhhh… you’re kidding me, right? Hangouts is hangouts SMS = voice SMS. They are both SMS!

          • mgamerz

            No it’s not. you want to send sms though your sms number, only the google voice number.

          • Cory_S

            I’m afraid you’re misinformed.

    • Potato

      This uses Google Voice.

    • dcdttu

      I think Voice is a dead end for Google. It’s not important to their 500lb gorilla (ads), so they have no desire to push it further.

      • sirmeili

        Actually, they use it to help their voice recognition which helps Google Now, which helps bring in ad revenue via searches. At least that is how I see it.

  • http://twitter.com/geoff5093 Geoff Johnson

    Come on Google Voice integration!

  • Phil

    what about MMS

    • Ian Smith

      if there’s gif support, why wouldn’t there be MMS support?

      • moelsen8

        because MMS is the redheaded stepchild of the wireless world.

      • Adrynalyne

        Because MMS doesn’t use the same method of sending/receiving as SMS.

        • Ian Smith

          but a gif is essential an image file, so i don’t understand how it would be handled in drastically different ways for mms vs. gif

          • socarwolverine

            But is the gif only sent to others on hangouts and not phone numbers? I didn’t listen so I don’t know, but it may not be able to send a gif to a number unless they get MMS support too.

          • Ian Smith

            valid point – will have to wait & see

          • Adrynalyne

            Different transport method. SMS doesn’t use data because it goes through voice channels by the carrier. MMS uses data, and therefore has to be handled differently, especially since MMS is not considered “regular” data.

            Google Voice SMS actually uses data, and has to be converted by Google to work with carriers.

          • Ian Smith

            i’m sorry, are you not reading anything i’m writing? a GIF is an IMAGE, a MMS is an IMAGE. what is the difference between THOSE?

          • Adrynalyne

            ARE YOU READING WHAT I AM WRITING?

            A file format/container is not the same thing as a transport protocol.

            SHEESH.

            THE TRANSPORT PROTOCOLS ARE DIFFERENT.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            “I feel like im taking crazy pills here!!”

          • Adrynalyne

            Indeed, LOL.

          • SomeDooD

            ARE YOU STUPID? MMS IS NOT AN IMAGE FILE.

          • Ian Smith

            *rolls over*

            *dies*

          • Adrynalyne

            Now now, be nice.

            He didn’t know. That doesn’t make him stupid, it makes him ignorant. And no, ignorant is not a negative word.

          • Ian Smith

            i’ll admit that i’m wrong but i still think there’s going to be MMS support built in

          • Adrynalyne

            I do too. It just takes time. Inclusion of SMS doesn’t imply MMS because they are really quire different in the tech used.

          • ERIFNOMI

            MMS is the delivery method. If you were to send a picture via Hangouts to a phone number (not another Hangouts user) and it isn’t delivered via MMS, where will it go? They won’t get it.

          • jnt

            Google Voice wont’ accept MMS either. I thought any time an image of any type was involved (at least for the past year?) it automatically converted to MMS?

          • Adrynalyne

            It is, because SMS cannot transmit images. That conversion is a software feature of the application. It cannot convert to MMS without support though.

            And yeah, Google Voice can accept MMS in some markets. Obviously, it requires carrier cooperation.

            http://googlevoiceblog.blogspot.com/2011/10/first-steps-towards-mms-support.html

          • jnt

            Ah ok – well I think that’s why the question was asked (the question being if it supports GIF, why wouldn’t it support MMS?). Doesn’t GIF support imply that it supports conversion to MMS? Or is GIF support hangout-to-hangout only? Or am I getting mixed up in the same was as the original questioner? :)

          • Adrynalyne

            Gif support is specifically for the google accounts portion of hangouts. The SMS portion won’t be able to send those gifs.

          • joder

            Not true… SMS Ascii art :)

            / / / / / / / / /
            / / / / / / / / /
            __,____,
            /____,_/ .;';';.
            ,l__[]__,l_! ,,)(,,
            – – – – – –
            Enjoy Lovely Rainy Weather..

          • Adrynalyne

            Glad you told me what it was :p

  • http://www.theprogrocker.com/ John

    YES!!! THANKS OBAMA!

    • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

      I don’t get this site’s tendency to vote down jokes.

      • DanSan

        they aren’t down voting the jokes. they are down voting obama..

    • JBartcaps

      It seems like political jokes go over alot of peoples heads here

    • SomeDooD

      Mah nigga Obeezy

      • stang68

        You’re the reason America is dying.

  • Tim Austin

    I NEED THIS NOW!

  • Joshu

    No Google Voice integration?

  • Chris Schmucker

    Any word on Update availability?

    • TeeJay1100

      Today!!