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Consumer Reports: iPhones Are “No Match” for Motorola’s DROID Lineup

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According to the newest Consumer Reports article filed concerning smartphones, the site’s editors have been very impressed with Apple’s newest iPhone offerings, but they are still “no match” to Motorola’s fresh lineup of DROID devices on Verizon. While they were impressed with a working fingerprint scanner on the iPhone 5S, and were happy with iOS 7’s addition of Command Center, overall battery life and “smallish screens” are the reasons that Apple’s flagships fall to the ULTRA, MAXX, and DROID Mini on Verizon. 

According to their findings, Google Now and Moto’s always listening feature was a serious killer of the iPhones. To top it off, each device features Motorola’s Active Display tech, which even we are major fans of. All of this adds up to Consumer Reports rating each of the new DROID phones over both of the newest iPhones.

If it was us, we would probably recommend the Moto X instead of the DROIDs, but since battery life is such a major player in these ratings, it makes sense that they went with the ULTRA and MAXX.

Via: Consumer Reports

  • bionicwaffle

    Why on earth would you recommend the Moto X over any of the current Droids? I mean other than the fact that the Droid Ultra really shouldn’t exist. If you want a small phone, the Mini is better. If you want a big phone get the battery to go with it. Also, the Maxx doesn’t lose screen space by having three static buttons at the bottom all the time – terrible design! That screen real estate can only be use by some/most full screen video. No games, photos, slide shows, books, web pages, etc. Sure, you might get the updates faster. Frankly, Android is so good now it’s not in desperate need of updates and I’ll take the battery life (3500mAh – do you know how awesome that is?!?!) over the absolute latest cutting (possibly bleeding) edge updates any day.

  • larry91403

    Now that Android & Windows devices are all similar to iOS devices, why does Consumer Reports insist on rating or comparing them to each other? Shouldn’t devices of the same OS being rated against each other? After that it is really personal preference of Operating System. It is the same issue with computers. How can you rate windows and mac computers in the same scale? They are completely different OS’s. If you are looking for a windows computer you aren’t even considering a Mac and vice versa. Consumer Report’s methodology needs to change. Of course Apple makes it hard for them because they really only have one ‘new’ product at a time. But you really can’t say the Samsung X is better then the Apple X because personal preference chooses the OS.

  • master94

    duh, It runs Android and Android will always destroy ios.

  • Alan Bryant

    The most astonishing thing is that anyone takes Consumer Reports seriously…

  • RussyJo

    and now price drop!

  • Big e

    I have always trusted consumer reports, even though sometimes i dont necessarily agree with them. They typically are right. Im sure the isheep will still buy all the apple products though. Anyone that knows anything knows apple is falling WAY behind in technology

  • Redsun

    Hmm… Apple doesn’t fare too well when subjected to objective comparisons.

  • CAPerkins22

    Assuming you’re speaking to a Verizon customer, why would you recommend a Moto X over a Droid Maxx or Ultra? If you need a smaller phone with shorter battery life and a curved rear, I get it (though the Mini gives you most of that). Moto Maker isn’t even available for Verizon customers, yet, right?

    I’m being serious, why would you “probably recommend the Moto X instead of the DROIDs,” Tim?

  • CraigBoyte

    Personally I think the Droid line under performs (sales wise) partly because of the name. The “Droid” name and marketing seems so 2010-2011

  • Woodhouse

    These ARE the DROIDS you’re looking for.

  • xXAaronSXx

    I kinda find this article a little ironic. When I first got by OG Droid, I said to myself, well this will get me by until Verizon gets the iPhone. I quickly became a fan of Android and when it was time to upgrade, and iPhone wasn’t even a consideration. I went with a Droid X2 (I know, I know…). Now it seem that the Droids (or Android) is the platform on top. I know, there is a lot to personal preference. The iPhone may be better for some. But the public perception has changed since the days of the Droid and i3G/3Gs where the iPhone was the pinnacle.

  • I totally disagree…Consumer Reports are biased in nature…Just have a try with your own eyes to check out the performance of both the smartphones…

  • angermeans

    This shows consumer reports knows absolutely nothing. If they had said maybe the Moto x, HTC One, or even the note 3 I would have maybe believed them, but not the new droids. Every other review I’ve read about the droids have been completely awful. It was the lowest score I’ve ever seen the verge give a phone. I would even reccommend the note 3 over these phones and I hate Samsung and their awful Touchwiz software and have absolute no desire to carry around a goofy large display like the note series.

    Really the droids?

  • Alexander Garcia

    Say whaaa!? I didn’t see this one comin’ in a million years! =O

  • rabidhunter

    Proud owner of the DROID Mini. I feel validated.

  • jb

    Didn’t read the other 200+ comments so I apologize if this was already mentioned but, they rated the S4 above all else. Just an FYI.

  • RoadsterHD1

    Really the Moto X? Even when the new Droids out do the X? More features bigger screens. It’s like Beauty and the Beast. Ultra and Maxx respectivelly. Droid Life is so one sided lately. If the Phone is better admit to it….! I got the Droid Maxx and i charge it once every two days but the features are what attracted me to it. The battery and power were just icing on the cake….

    • guesswhat

      what features you are talking about other than droid zap? which is in playstore and I use it on my X (for both sending and receiving), battery life on ultra is as good as X, understand maxx is in different league altogether regarding battery life ..but dont think droid’s have more features than X

      • bionicwaffle

        Besides a slightly larger display you have the fact that you can use the whole screen for everything – reading books or web pages, full screen photos, games, etc. On the Moto X, that’s not the case because of the soft buttons that waste room for everything except some video. That’s just poorly thought out. Hopefully Google will stop doing that as everyone else (HTC, Samsung, Moto, LG) have figured out it’s a dumb idea. They may as well have used a 4.5″ display and off screen buttons for the moto x and saved some money. If you get the Maxx you get a huge battery. if you get the Mini you get the small size. The other internals are the same.

      • RoadsterHD1
    • bionicwaffle

      I agree. I’m not sure why they bother selling the Moto X on Verizon. Really, I’m not sure why they bother with the Droid Ultra. Instead of those four they should just have the Droid Mini and the Droid Maxx. They could sell the Droid Maxx with 16GB, 32GB, or 64GB if they need the price points.

  • James Hill

    The screens need to be bigger on the iPhone. 4.3″ to 5.2″ is a good size for a phone screen.

    • Eric R.

      Not when the homescreen is only icons that look like they were created by Fisher Price

      • RoadsterHD1

        SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO True. Hilarious!!!!

      • Daeshaun Griffiths

        I can’t wait for mavericks. I always hated using multiple displays from my macbook

      • bionicwaffle

        The screen size makes more of a difference for content consumption.

  • Teddy Chen

    Love my Droid Maxx. It’s sexy, battery is a beast, and I feel safe carrying kevlar on me.

    • RoadsterHD1

      Couldn’t agree more….

  • drose0

    So far I am absolutely loving my Maxx. Thank God for the unlimited data “glitch” or I wouldn’t know what decent battery life is actually like (coming from a Gnex).

  • patt

    Lmao you guys should go to macrumors and see all the android hate lol. I just came from iPhone to GS4 I am not complaining I simply got bored of iOS.

    • Stevedub40

      Welcome aboard 🙂 We get that quite a bit these days.

  • Manthas

    If I had seen this article two weeks ago, I would have whole heartedly supported it, but right now I am waiting on my third Droid Maxx to be shipped to me in less than a month. The first one had some sort of short in the battery causing it to turn off randomly; I’ve had the second one only a little over a week (and still breaking in the battery), when I fired up the camera and found that there was a dust particle on the sensor for the rear facing camera causing a huge black blur. I really hope third time’s a charm, but if this one suffers from some sort of issue, it’s going back to the store and I’ll have to figure out an alternative solution.

    • RoadsterHD1

      Wow, talk about bad luck. Maybe the dudes building those phones you got were drunk. Hope your 3rd one is a charm cause the phone really does rock.

      • Manthas

        Agreed – with the exception of these (admittedly pretty major) faults, the phone has been excellent. I am a tad annoyed to see the price drop today, but c’est la vie.

  • carluverdrm2004

    Articles like this warm my heart. 😀

  • Mr. Cream Coffee

    Funny how some bias Apple fansite (cough, cough Appleinsider) don’t report these articles on their site. Their admins don’t allow Apple bashing I guess..

    • Stevedub40

      It’s called tech-communism.

  • Such

    Anybody with an open mind have figured this out. For what they are, the droid maxx & ultra are damn good devices. My least favorite of the 3 is probably the Moto X. Build quality is ehh & the screen was so so. Kind of surprising that Verizon’s droids are actually slightly better

  • flosserelli

    That is nice they mentioned the Droid line in that article, but where is Consumer Reports’ big spread about the Droids? Each link takes you to a page showing a spec chart and a paragraph devoid of any opinion or real world experience.

  • Joel Myaer

    Be careful consumer reports, Apple may sue you claiming they invented reviewing & rating products first!

  • Dean Cory

    Battery life who cares, Give me the Moto X free of Verizon! I will never have another Droid again as long as Droid + Verizon!

  • joseph barrientos

    i currently use both the iphone 5S and the htc one, i’ve always been an android user but im also a mobile UI designer so i felt it best to own the two best platforms, i can honestly say that the 5S kills any moto product out right now, based on usability and functionality alone, regardless of specs, honestly. The moto x is the only comp in my opinion as it makes using the phone simple, moto has ALWAYS had a crappy ui overlay and makes the user experience very laggy and un-concise. I do see MANY flaws with the iphone however to say its lesser to motos line up, is a joke.

    • Shane Redman

      but…….there’s little to no overla…..you know what, you got it buddy. I don’t design, that’s uncharted territory for me.

      • trixnkix637

        took the words out of my mouth.

      • joseph barrientos

        lol i just love that i got 6 downvotes for being honest, screw the razor maxxxxmaxxxxmaxxx, im primarily an android user and am waiting for the nexus 5, but ok

        • Shane Redman

          Lol…the real kicker……I wasn’t one of them. BOOYAH!

    • Adrynalyne

      As a mobile UI designer, you should be comparing OS to OS, not hardware to hardware.

      Just sayin…

    • flosserelli

      “…crappy ui overlay and makes the user experience very laggy and un-concise.”

      Are you sure you are using the same Moto X as everyone else here?

      • Stevedub40

        I’m gonna go with no, since Moto is the closest thing to stock.

      • joseph barrientos

        are you saying that the moto x has a good OR bad UE?

        • flosserelli

          Imo, the Moto X has the most fluid, most efficient/intuitive and least annoying UI of any Motorola phone to date.

          • joseph barrientos

            lol then you didnt read my comment. i said the moto x is the only competition

          • flosserelli

            Then your comment was not very clear.

    • RoadsterHD1

      You’re on crack dude.

      • joseph barrientos

        lol i say again, my job, is to design mobile UI, i’ve designed for both android and ios, i’ve used both, and moto, up until google got this power over em, sucked

        • Chris

          Up until this year’s line-up, Motorola sucked. My friend has a Razr and had a Droid X and both are terrible lmao.

    • dizel123

      In other words, you haven’t used a single Moto phone in about 3 years since that was the last time they had much of an overlay.

  • Mark P

    Does the Ultra have better battery life than the Moto X? Or just the Maxx??? (I’m thinking about getting one soon and really want the X.. but battery life is so important…)

    • Shane Redman

      Either way, you’re a winner….

    • Adrynalyne

      Play it safe and go with Maxx.

  • Stacey

    Still waiting on a phone with a unlocked bootloader and somewhat timely updates on Verizon. Seriously I miss phones like the Galaxy Nexus, OG Droid, and HTC incredible where you could load whatever you wanted on the phone and verizon would be none the wiser. Now Verizon is the last to get phones on time, and they are laggy as hell about updating them.

    • Shane Redman

      the only kicker, though it be a big one.

    • Mitchman

      It only took Verizon 2 years bring us the HTC Thunderbolt update from Gingerbread to Ice Cream sandwich. lol

  • beng8686

    Off topic: I really don’t see what is so great about Moto X. I tried it in a VZW store along side the Ultra and Maxx and just couldn’t bring myself around to liking it for the price tag. Storage, battery, and screen were the killers for me. I still can’t believe how DL ignores these great phones (Ultra, Maxx). They couldn’t even put one as a pic for this article instead of the crappy iPhone.

    • Adrynalyne

      To be fair, Moto X has a sharper screen than Ultra and Maxx.

      4.7in at 720p looks better than 5in at 720p.

      • beng8686

        Fair enough. I couldn’t really notice it side by side though.

        • Adrynalyne

          Me neither. I’m blind as hell.

          • beng8686

            Haha even with my glasses on…

        • dizel123

          Nobody can, but people still wanna talk about moar dpi and moar specs

    • carluverdrm2004

      I just love the fact that soon I’ll be able to make a custom one….. if the Droid Maxx was prettier, I’d consider it…. that and the comment concerning 720p looks better on the X.

  • Shane Redman

    Ppl should really stop comparing the Bionic, Razr and Razr HD line with this new line of Droids

    • This!

      Especially Ron with the Eris and Purple Razr… Ron, you’re great man, I love what you bring to our community, and I know you’ve used review units of new devices, but I’d like to suggest a challenge to yourself to use a Moto-X for 30 days and see what happens.

      Edit: I originally said Droid-X… my bad, I meant MotoX.

      • If you pay for it I’ll be happy to do so.

        • Shane Redman

          If @Kellex sets up a paypal or something and every DL reader donates $1, would that be enough?

  • Dave

    I just saw they are soon halting production of the 5C due to “below expected demand on the news today.

    • Shane Redman

      thought that was in China b/c they over priced it there.

      • flosserelli

        The iphone 5c is overpriced *everywhere*

      • Dave

        Could be. It said Apple, so I admit I didn’t read the whole article. Looks like Chinese are smart enough to not buy a phone just because it’s colored.

  • schoat333

    IMO iPhones are no match for any Android phone released in the last year. Maybe even 2 years.

  • joejoe5709

    Nice. This sort of thing is exactly what Android needs. Consumer Reports average reader age has got to be above 40. iOS also appeals to those over 40 because they think its reliable and easy to use. Having a prime consumer magazine like this giving their recommendation is pretty huge. PLUS this on the eve of a fairly major software update and a new phone release… This is a massive month for Google/Android.

  • John Ligons

    Funny, I just saw this and laughed. Trade up, haha Best Buy got jokes.

    • flosserelli

      It’s not even a lateral trade. It’s a downgrade, pure and simple.

      • Mitchman

        It’s trading up if the user has iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, or iPhone 4S. Four inch screen woo! OG Droid had a 3.7 in screen I believe. Makes me laugh every time when I think of the iPhone.

        • flosserelli

          Touché. But I had last year’s iphone 5 in mind.

  • needa

    i dont get the battery life comment up there. i regularly get 36 hours on my moto x. thats with 90-110 minutes of screen time (auto), and the idle drain issues. in order to drain it in a day, or by the time i go to sleep, i have well over three hours of screen time. sometimes four+. if moto could get the idle drain issues in check, there would be no reason this little 2200 mah battery couldnt get 48 hours.

    those with ultras… are you regular getting better battery life?

    • GNote3

      No match to GNote 3, 4-5 hours screen time on LTE with constant streaming (You Tube, Pandora, Tune in etc), after 20 hours battery remaining 15% or more.

      • 2Berad

        To bad you cannot fit it the note 3 in your pocket;)

        • GNote3

          Fits perfectly even with a Case on it

        • flosserelli

          I can see that being a problem…if you wear skinny girl pants that are two sizes too small.

      • beng8686

        Maxx = 5-6 hours screen on with 36 hours off charger constantly streaming, surfing, working, and netflixing with 30 percent or so battery left. Can’t kill this thing!

      • Bionicman

        i get almost 6 hours screen time on my Note 3 but then again I’m not constant streaming. after a few days, it really does surpass the Note 2’s battery.

      • needa

        the note doesnt disappear in my hand like the x does. the note does that with a much larger battery. put that battery in the x and im getting three days without issue. or two days with nearly twice the streaming use of the note. the note will not get that kind of battery life when you have all of the gimmicks turned on. but im glad you brought the note into the conversation when i made no mention of it at all. otherwise i would not have had the opportunity to bash it without trolling.

    • Shane Redman

      Still really depends on your usage. I’m willing to bet you don’t do much social media or other apps that use background data to stay current?

      • needa

        not at all. no tweets. i use facebook in spurts, and only with the browser. but i dont see the ultra beating that if it were set up exactly as mine. and thats the point- smaller battery. more bloat. same internals. yet tim assumes consumer reports left out the x becuase of battery life.

  • Butters619

    CC this to Ron.

  • Tony Byatt

    And BOOM goes the dynamite…

  • Mordecaidrake

    Motorola is seriously dead to me now after the Razer HD MAXX. I’ve had nothing but performance issues with every Moto phone I’ve had since the OG. I’m now a proud S4 owner.

    • Shane Redman

      Let me be the one to tell you…….they’ve changed for the much MUCH better since being bought by Google. I suggest you give it another shot in the future.

      • T S

        agreed. i had the OG and the Bionic. Bionic gave me tons of issues and i swore off Moto. . .saw the reviews on the latest Droid lineup here and went with a Droid MAXX and haven’t looked back since. absolutely love this phone.

    • Mitchman

      I had the OG Droid – I never had issues until that last update Verizon pushed. Then it all went to hell.

  • Nathaniel Newman

    I WAS a Maxx HD owner. Now I’m a Samsung Galaxy S4 owner. Really most ALL flagship phones running Android would beat the iPhone. That’s nothing new!

  • MichaelFranz

    Proud Maxx owner here (Puff’s Chest)

  • runner30

    Has Ron heard this news?

    • flosserelli

      He is hopelessly and chronically drunk on the Apple Kool-Aid.

  • dcc_tech

    Droid Maxx can make a case for being the best phone on the market today. So could others, but Maxx has the full package of Moto features + specs.

    • beng8686

      Agreed. The Maxx on this site is so underrated. Bigger screen, bigger battery, and all the cool features of Moto X and then some with Zap.

      • Shane Redman

        You had me going until you said Zap

        • beng8686

          Yes its not that great but the idea is somewhat appealing. I prefer superbeam myself.

          • Shane Redman

            I guess the thing for me is I rarely find reasons to share many things that way. Usually I transfer a picture with my girlfriend or parents, but even then i’m not always with them so I sometimes forget about wifi direct or nfc services.

  • droidrazredge

    I can see Dennis Woodside saying to Apple: “my Moto Mojo brings all your fans to the yard! Damn right Apple, my features are better than yours.

  • lensgrabber

    Battery life is pretty great on my X.

    • Brett Seybert


  • PolarBear

    I hope this report makes other manufacturers to focus more in battery life.

  • Walter Partlo

    Consumer Reports like them some Kevlar.

  • Richard Giordano

    good job Verizon @verizon i love my DROID Maxx this phone has killer battery it just doesnt die on me. The new iPhones are nothing compared to these new Motorola phones.

    • Mitchman

      Wait til Verizon pushes that first update

      • Logan Greenwood

        We got a update on day 1.

  • A.J.

    Keep in mind the name and where they are getting the ratings from. It’s called Consumer Reports for a reason. These are not tech blogs or fan blogs of one platform over the other, these are consumers and the site is just relaying the information. That means that consumers are finally starting to see through the Apple smoke and mirrors.

    • Just_Some_Nobody

      Only the low class consumers who can’t afford the high class iProducts.


      • Steve B

        Android phones cost just as much, if not more than iCrap.

        • JB

          Guess that comment went right over the ol’ noggin, huh?

        • Franklin Ramsey

          Did you miss his /s ?

        • Just_Some_Nobody

          /s = sarcasm

    • pappy53

      They are not relaying consumer information. Their ratings are based on their own staff, not consumers. It’s called Consumer Reports because they report to the consumers.

  • Shane Redman

    woooo…MAXX owners rejoice…..i suppose

    • JoYu

      Why is it that even when I agree with the “experts” I want to disagree?

      • Shane Redman

        I don’t know…I own a maxx…..my iFriends are jealous of my battery every weekend we hang out, thus the consumer report. And if I say “OK Google Now” and they’re talking, they all shut up when they hear the beep. Like “How did it hear you?” Awesome features all-around for functionality.

        Still wish the MotoX had the maxx battery. That’s my dream.

    • Chris Newman


  • PhillipCun

    Sooo… I switched to an iPhone 5…..

    …..because i got sick of my dying GNex VZW. iOS 7 is a refreshing new coat of paint… but it lacks a lot of advance features from Android I miss so much. Seriously… it’s iOS 6 painted flat and they added a few new features.. These new features seems like they just slapped it on, which they did.

    I am now an informed consumer of both platforms. iOS is nice and polished, but WAYYYY behind Android. I still want the Moto X. C’mon VZW MotoMaker 😀

    • C-Law

      I love my Moto x and you will too

      • JBartcaps

        It really is the best all around phone

        • Suralin

          Despite it not having an unlockable bootloader out of the box for Verizon, I consider the Moto-X the true Motorola successor to the OG Droid.

          • beng8686

            Ha! Unlockable bootloader and Verizon can’t be used in same sentence… Unless you slip a developer edition in there somewhere.

          • Mitchman

            You haven’t dismissed the Verizon GNex already have you? 🙁

          • Tyler Rynberg

            Never heard of the HD RAZR family?

      • PhillipCun

        Stock android (close enough) – check
        Available on VZW – check
        Added features that actually improves the user experience rather than hinder it (ahem LG and Samsung) – check

        I been drooling over the Moto X since I heard about. They fixed the camera which was my only concern.. Soon my friends… soon i will join u

    • Adam Truelove

      Why didn’t you just get a Moto X.

      EDIT: Nevermind, I see you’re waiting on Motomaker.

  • David

    Not a fan of Steve Jobs, but I feel like things would be different today if he were still alive.

  • 4ndrew07


  • Aaron Swan

    Apple must be behind on their bills

    • PolarBear

      What do you mean?

      • MikeCiggy

        as in Apple pays for reviews to swing their way.

        • PolarBear

          Now I got why PhoneArena and The Verge are totally Apple biased…

          • JBartcaps

            The Verge is not biased. They have journalists who love Apple and have journalists who will never use Apple. Also I believe Josh Topolsky’s everyday phone is Moto X

          • meijin3

            You are correct, sir.

          • Rob

            They may not be biased but Apple products always tend to score higher in their reviews than any Android devices. In some cases I understand but it shouldn’t be every Apple product scores higher than everything else.

          • T4rd

            Because the truth is that Apple devices tend to be higher quality than most Android devices. As much as I love and prefer Android over iOS, you can’t deny that iOS is considerably more stable and smoother experience than most (if not all) Android phones.
            Inb4 downvotes.

          • pappy53

            Yeah, I was gonna say that the reason may be that Apple devices are better products. Just because the majority of sites find Apple products to be more favorable doesn’t mean that they are biased, just realistic.

          • MicroNix

            But that’s the thing, Apple products are *not* necessarily better products. Wasn’t there a recent article highlighting that iOS apps crash more often than Android apps? That directly affects the user experience. Or how about the iPhone 4 and 4s users who upgraded to iOS 7 that are slow, choppy and extremely unstable with no way to go back? Apple perception of quality is all marketing and hipster talk. They crash, they die and they have hiccups just like any other computing device. And the thing is, they don’t do it less often, in many cases they do it more often.

            In 2009 Apple might have been able to boast better quality, but that was a lifetime ago in electronics years. Even their most touted newer term “retina” is yesterday’s news and has been bested in both specs and quality.

          • angermeans

            The iPhone 4 is 3 years old. The iPhone 4s is 2 years old. Of course they are going to not run well on iOS 7. Name any 2 year old (let alone 3 year old) Android phone that even can run even Jellybean and can run it well. Come on man. Does every Android fan completely ignore things and pick and choose what they want to read/write. Over half of all Android phones still run Gingerbread and run like absolute crap. Every Android phone released is a version or two behind and most never see more than 1 update (and these are just the high end ones). I can also play the game of pointing things out.Such as the new report that says that touch screen lag shows that iPhone 5 is 2.5 times faster than any Android phone out (they havent even looked at the iPhone 5s yet). iOS7 is a completely rebuilt OS from the ground up and running 64bit (which I doubt we will unfortunately see for another 2 years and Android woild have to be rebuilt as well to run). It hasn’t even seen a .1 update yet of course it is going to have some bugs, but as much as I hate to say it my iPhone 5 runs smoother on iOS7 than my HTC One does on Android. My original Nexus 7 has never ran well at all and has so much lag I can barely even use it and this is straight from Google. When concerning displays I hate to say this as well (as I prefer Android over iOS), but my iPhone 5 display looks better than my HTC One display when sitting next to one another and the HTC One is widely to be believed as the best display on the market. Why? Because Apple has innovated with their in cell display has gotten rid of the top touch sensor and also calibrates its displays one by one when most believe Android OEMs dont as it simply cost too much money.

            Look, I’m not trying to call you out, and I shouldn’t have even commented on this troll bate article, but all I’m saying is don’t be blind and believe what you want. If you have used the iPhone (even with iOS 7 on the 4 or 4s) you would knwo that everytime something Apple does it is magnified 100 fold. Yes, I wish iOS 7 ran a little better, but it is still a country mile ahead of Android and it is easy to see. I hate to admit it as I use my One as my daily phone and love the hell out of it, but I;ve never completely made things up to try and fill some sense of making myself feel as if I made the best choice in the phone I bought and everyone else is a moron. I see this too much in the Android world and it is annoying as we should all be happy at the competition as a good many features we enjoy today has come because of the Apple/Android competition and neither would be where they are if it wasn’t for the innovations of the other.

          • UniBroW

            Epic touch runs epic on Jelly Bean

          • T4rd

            This is pretty much what my reply to that was going to be. Thanks for saving me the time.
            Note that I’ve never owned an iOS device, yet I have the same opinion about it too. So you can’t say I’m a “fanboy” of that I have any bias toward them whatsoever. I simply do not play favorites and go with the best device that fits my wants/needs.

          • MicroNix

            I have 4 iOS and 4 Android devices under my roof. I think I’m slightly qualified to comment on both.

          • T4rd

            Cool story bruh.

          • MicroNix

            The Galaxy S2 is 2.5 years old and runs JB. Care to upgrade your rant?

            Oh yeah, and there aren’t major features omitted from it either like fruity upgrades to older devices. It has navigation, voice and other features that get omitted from older iPhones (even though they “say” iOS7)

            And before you come back with some bogus answer like, “sure that’s only one phone”, we’re only talking about the iPhone on your side, right?

          • cns2007

            “…you can’t deny that iOS is considerably more stable and smoother experience than most (if not all) Android phones.”

            I would have agreed with this part until recently.



          • NexusPhan

            I disagree, actually. My first smartphone was the iPhone 4. It crashed about as often as my GNex/Nexus 4 do. But, to the casual user, you’d never know. Why? It just boots back to to the homescreen or doesn’t open or a quick flash of the Apple logo and doesn’t tell you any more than that. Android tell you when a process stops working so it feels/looks more obvious. In the end, I found both OSes to be very stable overall. I don’t think I could say one crashes more than the other.

          • alex drum

            after owning android from back in the day (OG) and having owned at least one android phone from every OEM I can confidently say that it crashes really often… well the phones do. crashes are not always due to pure android. sometimes its the skin, sometimes the hardware, and others it is an app. IOS has to deal with these problems on a much smaller scale because all elements on the software/hardware/apps are controlled by apple. android does not always tell you when it crashes, on days where I am power using the crap out of my phone it is obviously more noticeable when it poops out and restarts when I am staring at it, when it does it in your pocket you have no idea. You are correct when a process crashes, this can also be very jarring for a novice user. First time (long time ago) it happened to me I freaked out and left the message up while I did a bunch of research. anyway my main point is that when a company has total control over almost every element of a phone it is bound to be smoother and more reliable. I respect them for what they can do, It just isn’t my personal choice of phone.

          • NeedName

            some actual studies showed that ios apps crash 3x more than Android. . . it was a massive study of over a million devices. . . and came out well over a year ago.

          • MicroNix

            Go try an iPhone 4 or 4s that has been upgraded to iOS 7 once.

          • If by more stable you mean you can’t tweak iOS so it is less likely to freeze up or crash from the tweaks, then yes. But as an owner of both platforms, I can tell you that iOS apps crash more often when comparing equal quality and ‘non-tweaked’ Android phones.

          • EdubE24

            I’m the resident iphone user here. Of course I went and bought the 5S. But somehow it is nowhere near as smooth as the last models. Not sure if it’s IOS7 or the apps not being optimize for the 64 bit. I get apps that force close on me often and that’s something very new. The new animations seem to stutter sometimes and often seem to take up to a second to open. A second is not a big deal, but I do notice it. It’s still a great phone, but I do feel like somehow IOS has taken a step backwards!

          • hoosiercub88

            Said every Apple fanboy ever.

          • Nick V

            As much as I detest iOS and Apple, I have to agree with @T4rd:disqus. But I will say this. Android OEMs are getting smarter and better at the game, and this past year we have seen huge advancements in Android Devices (Hardware), which is comparable to Apple’s devices.

            Before you get your panties in a bunch, I am not saying that all Android devices are on par, but I am saying that quality has improved this year substantially.

          • Kurt Knebel

            iOS 7.0.2 is IMHO not more stable than Android 4.3. But I agree with your first sentence.

          • Stephen D

            I remember that the Galaxy Nexus scored equal to the iPhone 4S, then beat it when the VZ version came out. If an Android phone deserves it, they give it a better score than the iPhone.


          • angermeans

            Everyone will admit that Android OEMS are behind Apple in a lot of regards especially quality of products. They are reviewed high because they are great products. I’ve also seen Android products rated high because they are good products. Most good high end tech sites will review Apple high because they are great products and most dont even use Apple phones. Tablets there is no competition. Apple clearly owns the market and same with their laptop/desktop. Until Android OEMs can continually make great products instead of throwing every spec at a device and calling it good (while missing things like lag and other huge issues) then you can get mad that Apple rates higher. They do because Apple pays very close attention to details and things just work. The market can’t all be wrong. There is no one Android phone (not even Samsung) that can go toe to toe with the iPhone in sales and Apple only dabbles in the high end. The iPhone 5s is the number one phone sold on all the major wireless carriers and the iPhone 5c is second. That will probably be for the most part of the year. I hate to say it, but it’s true.

          • I think you are speaking for just the American market?

          • jnt

            But I bet he pulls out his iPhone to take pictures… ZING! 😛

          • JBartcaps

            That is not how you “ZING!”

          • T4rd

            I agree. It seems to me that a majority of their staff (at least the ones that participate in their Vergcasts and Mobile Show) prefers iOS, but I just heard Josh say in a recent Vergecast that he still prefers Android to iOS for his personal preferences. He also made it a point to say that they (The Verge) have nothing to gain from being bias toward Apple or any other phone OEM since they’re a lot more than a site about phones or mobile tech.

          • I’d also like to point out Droid Life as being notably impartial when it comes to Apple/Android.

          • Jroc869, Nexus-Life

            The difference is in the name. when you come to “Droidlife” you expect an Android point of view. When you go to a site like engadget or lets say bgr you would expect some balance since they are an all around tech blog.

          • alex drum

            Thank you.

          • PolarBear

            “I will still get the iPhone 5S, but you should get Moto X……”
            OK I got you.

          • Stephen D

            Yeah, the Verge is my favorite tech website. They do a nice job keeping it unbiased, and they have some great articles. Plus, their format is unique and looks really nice.

          • Only thing I don’t like there is their comments system. They need Disquis or something.

          • Stephen D

            Forgot about that. That’s why I don’t comment on the Verge. They definitely need Disqus.

          • NeedName

            The Verge is very biased toward apple. . . Joshua knows he has to kiss apple’s ass in order to go to events and get preview devices — he learned that hard lessen while at engadget. . . . they have to be biased or they will never go to another apple event or see another preview device from apple and they know it!

            your comment shows just how clueless and naive “tech users” on these sites really are.

          • JBartcaps

            You’re a moron, and completely made up that statement.

          • NeedName

            you wish. . . but that’s the sad reality. Joshua used to be critical of apple, when at engadget, but when the first ipad was due out apple made it very clear they were not happy with him — no invite and no preview device. That’s the last time Joshua has been truly critical of anything apple has released, and started gushing over apple just after all of that. . . no “major tech site” is unbiased — they need ad revenue, invites to events, and preview devices. You don’t really think apple is going to invite you to their event and give you a preview product when you are consistently critical of their junk?

            How naive are you?

            talk about moron!

          • JBartcaps

            Hahaha run along little buddy

          • cns2007

            You want to see some real Apple-bias reporting, checkout Slashgear.

          • ManBearPig618

            Cough cough BGR cough cough cough

          • cns2007

            Absolutely. I forgot about that site because I stopped reading it. I’m truly not an Apple-hater, but I do expect fair and balanced reporting from a site that isn’t supposed to be platform-centric.

          • Rob

            You beat me to it. I finally quit visiting BGR regularly, I think I have gone to that website maybe twice in the last year. The Apple bias is amazing over there, it’s everywhere and they don’t even try to hide it.

          • MicroNix

            BGR should just merge with Apple Insider. There’d be no difference in staff or the rabid iFans that troll the site.

            Runner up to BGR would be Engadget that someone went so far at one point to register the domain name “engapple” which redirected to engadget.

          • NeedName

            Most all major “tech” sites MUST kiss apples’ ass just to get preview devices or invited to the events — if you do NOT give rave reviews of apple’s junk then you will NOT be invited to events nor get a review device. . . . thus you can’t trust a single word when reading a positive apple review when a) that site went to the event or b) they got a review device — look to sites that go out and purchase the device directly and are openly critical.

            And we won’t even go into how major tech sites extort money from companies for positive reviews. . .

        • pappy53

          Are you really that dumb?

          • Adrynalyne

            Resorting to personal insults?

            Anyway, there have been cases of companies paying reviewers for false or inflated reviews. So I wouldn’t say it was dumb, but more a tongue in cheek comment.

          • pappy53

            You are correct. Samsung was found to be paying reviewers. And it wasn’t meant to be a personal insult, but a rhetoric question.

        • creed


        • Pakmann2k

          They all do, but you can’t buy your way with these guys. That’s what keeps them reputable. On the flipside, my dad is a secret shopper for a company and one of his “shops” was to go to an Apple store and tell them he wanted some replacement headphones for an iPod. His secret shop was called a checkup shop to ensure the first item they reccomended were Bose. Bose had a contract with Apple to ensure that Apple would always recommend them first. And you thought that “Genius” guy was genuine….. He was paid $25 for that shop, which is high in that line of work.

          • Abgar Musayelyan

            if i hadnt seen your name before i would have thought this is one of those “my dad is a secret shopper and he makes $85 an hour bla bla bla. visit this link how to can make more money” deals.

        • angermeans

          Where is your proof of this? Come on man Apple sells more phones than any one Android OEM and everyone knows this. If you don’t like Apple and prefer Android that is fine, but dont make stuff up. The fact that you got 22 up votes for this mindless drivel really makes me wonder how people could honestly take your comment as fact even when it is complete nonsense.

    • Stone Cold

      Consumer reports is the most trusted reviewers ever. They have never accepted advertisements for thier magazine so there would be no questioning of thier reviews favorable or others.

      • Shane Redman

        up vote for the name and picture….Hell yeah

        • What? What?

          And that’s the bottom line.

      • Michael D’Angelo

        Consumer reports is NOT the most trusted reviewers ever. Their reviews sometimes leave you wondering wtf were they thinking.
        That being said, I can’t stand apple, so I’m glad they didn’t “win”.

        • joseph barrientos

          he was being sarcastic…

          • Trueblue711

            No he wasn’t.

          • joseph barrientos

            oh 🙁

        • New_Guy

          If for no other reason than we don’t have to read about it all over the internet for the next quarter.

      • BulletTooth_Tony

        LOL. The most untrustworthy reviewer on the planet. You’ll get more partial and objective reviews on BGR’s blackberry and iPhone reviews… If you’re aware of how garbage and biased their reviews are for comparison.

      • Jessica L

        Consumer reports is a joke. And this is from an iPhone hater.

        Stone Cold Stupid = another uninformed moron.

        • Stone Cold

          You may not agree with my post but I am in no way a moron.

    • Stone Cold

      Direct from the consumer reports website. No advertising, no freebies . . . no bias
      As a nonprofit organization, we are not beholden to any commercial interest. We accept no free samples, and we pay for all the products and services we test.

      We also accept no advertising. Our income is derived from the sale of Consumer Reports®, ConsumerReports.org®, and our other publications and information products, services, fees, and noncommercial contributions and grants.

      • angermeans

        Are you being serious? This is a joke, right? Consumer Reports is one of the most bias reports you can find on the internet. They’ve been accused many times in the past just do a quick Google search for Consumer Reports bias and you will find many times. Do you not remember the whole auto reviews debacle? Every time Apple has released a new device Consumer Reports has some report about it when the rest of the industry gives fairly good to great reviews for it. Not to mention the disparity of this report where they say the Droids are the better than both the new iPhones when I have yet to read a good review on any of the Droids (The Moto X is a different story as that is a great device). If you don’t believe me do another Google search. They are the ones that claimed Apple’s iPads would literally burn people when used (which was an absolute joke). They also wrote an entire report on the iPhone 4 and started the whole antennagate problem (which in some ways was true, but then again it was soon to come out that every phone out could have problems if held the wrong way which they conveniently left out of their so called report. They’ve been blamed for false reports on oil and was accused of taking cash from certain brands when their so called test was done on New York taxis that run 24 hrs a day and have been for years (this is hardly a real life basis when comparing consumer motor oils). They’ve been blamed numerous times for not conducting good tests on everything from supplements to the Detroit Motor problems as a whole. All of these problems (and these are only the ones I can remember off the top of my head) would amount to why they have this little disclaimer you keep quoting. If you are a trusted source you dont need that garbage. I am willing to bet that most people on this site would agree that Android is better than the iPhone (which is really just subjective and most have probably never used the two for any amount of time), but I would guess none would say that the Droids are the ones that clearly beat the iPhone. HTC One, yes. Samsung Note 3 or S4, yes. Motorola X, yes. The new Droids no. They write articles for clicks and this surely gets peoples attention. Stop quoting garbage and do some research.

        • michael arazan

          Just curious, If they have no advertising, why would they need clicks?

        • Lucky Armpit

          LOL @ “The Moto X is a different story as that is a great device”. The Droid Maxx/Ultra are the same devices as the Moto X. Same software but in a bigger package. How can it be a “great device” and the Maxx/Ultra is not? Everyone’s hate for the Droids and the love for the Moto X (I’m looking at you, Kellex) doesn’t make sense to me.

          • SparkysShocker

            It’s all because Droid means Verizon and it’s guilt by association, anyone who says the X is in any way is better than the new Droids can be assumed to have no idea what they are talking about.

            There are only 2 differences between the the X and the Droids 1) On screen vx Cap. Nav. Buttons 2) OS upgrades, the X is already seeing fixes to the Camera where as the Droids haven’t seen a mention of it coming.

            Yes you could say the Maxx has Wireless charging but that just makes it better than the X.

    • RockMarz

      you must be hrt with them saying this??yes?? other way around youll be going hell yeah…cry baby.even if advertisements?so what..you never been in that buisness.

    • Jroc869, Nexus-Life

      They were just too busy thinking about how they were going to sue Samsung next.

    • sueerickson24

      my best frends sister just got cream Chevrolet City Express
      Minivan only from working part-time off a laptop… you could try this out

  • Chris

    Let’s hope some of the “always listening” is coming with the nexus…

    • Adrynalyne

      Correct me if I am wrong, but there were no additional cores listed in the FCC report, so I doubt it.

      • mh0520

        WIth the low power of the S800, I don’t think there’s a need for an additional core. I could be wrong about this, though.

      • PhillipCun

        someone told me that these cores are built into the S800 already.

        Edit: not reliable info^ lol

        • Adrynalyne

          Motorola claims that the core used for always listening isn’t an Arm core. So I know not.

      • Chris

        @adrynalyne:disqus sounds like you are in the know more then I… I was just hoping… sounds like you may have the answer :/

        • Adrynalyne

          I don’t know much more than you. I am just surmising.

      • brkshr

        Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn’t the Snapdragon 800 support something similar to a separate audio processer like the X8 system. I forget what it was called…

        • Adrynalyne

          All? snaps have a separate audio processor (DSP). What you need for always listening is a super low power core that sips battery.

          • brkshr

            I thought I had heard that their was a low power always on listening mode for the processor. I can’t for the life of me remember right now. I’ll have to do some research.

          • Adrynalyne

            No need. Qualcomm lists it. I was schooled.

            A few times, in fact 😉

          • brkshr

            It happens to the best of us. Can’t know everything all the time… I wasn’t even sure I was right here.

      • tomn1ce

        I believe that the S800 has support for those features….

        • Adrynalyne

          I guess we will have to see if that Hexagon DSP is low enough power to be used like Moto did.

        • OneForTheGoodDays

          So the LG G2 might be able to incorporate it into a CM 10 release?

      • Justin W

        True, but the S800 has some type of powersaving feature to allow for always on listening, doesn’t it? I know you can use it on the Note 3 if you have S-Voice active, but I’m not sure how well it works (I turned that crap off the minute I got mine).

        • Adrynalyne

          It looks like the DSP might be low power enough. I guess we need to see some real world results to see if Moto’s x8 has been made worthless.

          • Justin W

            That would be a shame, but I have this feeling that the x8 may have a little better power management than the S800, especially with the optimizations Moto’s done on the software side vs. those with the S800.

            If Samsung/LG would actually optimize their software to match their hardware, we probably could see a decent increase in battery life for both the Note 3 and G2, but I doubt that will happen.

        • Charlie R.

          If the Nexus 5 has this feature, it would be in stock Android Kit-Kat, and no other Nexus device has an S800, so it wouldn’t work on all devices. I don’t think Google would fragment the Nexus base like that.

          Just a thought.

          • TJWaterskier

            @Charlie R. They have/could.. it would be no different than adding Android Beam to stock Android with the inclusion of NFC and leaving the other Nexus phones behind.

          • Adrynalyne

            Only one Nexus has not had NFC, and it was never given the updates to Android high enough to get Android beam.

          • Justin W

            True, but look at Wallet – the Nexus 4/old Nexus 7 had tap-to-pay payments, while the new Nexus 7 doesn’t. Granted, it’s not quite that simple, but it’s limited by it’s hardware capabilities, which previous generations would also be limited by. I understand what you are saying though, and I agree that they wouldn’t purposefully do it, but there are some features that are missing on certain Nexus devices due to lack of hardware (Miracast is another one).

        • Jeff C

          speaking of all that S Crap, you know how to turn off S Finder so when i long press menu with Nova it goes to google now and not S Finder?

          • Justin W

            I don’t think you can 🙁

            I disabled the S-Voice from the Home button (and My Magazine) with their respective options menus, and use Home2 Shortcut to pull up Now with a double tap of the home button.

            I found this thread on XDA – http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467797&page=3 – that’s discussing how to disable S-Finder, but the only way to do it is with root (I won’t root right now, at least, not for another year or so for warranty/insurance reasons), but there doesn’t seem to be a good way to disable it. The one using GravityBox is not recommended because GravityBox is meant for AOSP ROMs (basically, only for stock roms) and not TouchWiz, which can break some (most?) of the features, but I’m going to keep an eye on it to see if anyone else comes up with something.

            If you find a way to disable S-Finder, though, let me know ! 🙂

      • Charlie R.

        Also, if Google incorporated the always listening feature with the Nexus 5, it would be part of Kit-Kat and stock Google. No other Nexus device has an S800, so it wouldn’t work with any other Nexus device, which Google has never done.

        • Adrynalyne

          That is a good point.

          • Eric Isntmyfirstname McIntyre

            Well they introduced hardware HDR support that singled out the Nexus 4 last year so I don’t think its out of the question.

        • Franklin Ramsey

          Just a thought, but always listening doesn’t need to have a low power core to work. So Google could incorporate it into KitKat for use on all phones. It would just suck the battery life out of those phones that don’t have a low power core to process it. So it could be coming in KitKat and you can choose to turn it on or off?

          • Charlie R.

            That’s definitely something that could happen, but I don’t see it. Google would get some really bad press for destroying the battery life of other Nexus devices. Especially for people who turn things off and on and don’t realize it and then complain that their devices are defective or whatever.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            I think you are forgetting something. They could set it so the default option is for it to be turned off on devices that don’t have a low power core to process this, and turned on by default for those that do. They could also make it so after your phone gets the OTA update, it asks which you wanted, sort of like you going through the start up prompts you go through when turning your phone on for the first time, but it could hold a warning that doing so could negatively impact battery life.

    • PolarBear

      It is actually coming with the Nexus 5.

    • Check out the fourth video here…


    • Adam Truelove

      It’s coming with Android 4.4, not just Nexus devices.

      • a3uge


    • 2Berad

      I use this feature all the time and love it. I don’t know how well it would work without the x8 platform in the moto devices, might kill battery life. Same goes for the active display could not live without it now.

  • Adrynalyne

    Good thing they don’t consider bloatware in those ratings.

    • Rob Delaney

      When it comes to pure common sense logic, your statement is about as truthful as anything I have heard today. You get a golf clap.

    • Adam Truelove

      I’d agree with you, but bloatware only really annoys us Android nerds. Most people don’t notice it. Even for us nerds, it doesn’t really affect the way we use our phones, we just hate it on principle.

      • Adrynalyne

        Gotta include the nerds too, though.

        Nerd is the new cool….right? Right?


      • tspx23

        I don’t agree. My friends have gotten the GS4 on different carriers and are pissed they can’t get rid of the t-mobile/sprint/ATT/Verizon stuff on there. it takes up space pops up annoying notification and constantly runs/sucks up battery. it gets in peoples faces all the time.

        • Stone Cold

          I have a Relay 4G and it has the bloatware but I never use them or allow them to update. I also turned off the data usage and stupid Mobile Life notifications.

        • Adam Truelove

          Can’t you disable the bloatware?

          • Shane Redman

            That’s what I did….out of sight, out of mind. 32gb coupled with cloud storage is more than enough for me to forget a few bloatware apps in the back.

          • Adrynalyne
          • Shane Redman

            Oh gosh….that really does suck.

          • Adrynalyne

            I’ve only noticed it under certain devices. My wife’s Maxx had no problem disabling it all.

          • Why would you want to disable voicemail? That’s one of the main things even Verizon wouldn’t want anyone messing with, now VZ Navigator on the other hand should have a way to disable it without having to root, etc.

          • LionStone

            Because there’s Google Voice… and it’s free…

          • Adrynalyne

            Why would I want Verizon Visual Voice Mail that costs me monthly?

          • Adam Truelove

            That’s what I was afraid of. And that’s why I’m switching to AT&T and Nexus from now on.

        • socarwolverine

          An anecdote about your friends doesn’t change the fact that the average person doesn’t care about bloatware until someone says they should.They’ve dealt with it on PC’s and just assume it’s how technology is.

          • Adrynalyne

            There are companies making money by debloating, so I think that maybe you underestimate the average person.

      • FknTwizted

        I don’t mind the bloatware but, make it like they do with computers… allow you to remove it. If you think this is bad though i cant wait to see “this phone call was connected for you by X company” and have a 30 sec ad before you are connected to who you need to be.

    • 2Berad

      Do you own one of the new droids? The bloat is not all that bad you can disable all bloat on the phone and it is as close to stock Android as any Verizon phone. almost every feature google and moto added to the new droids and the moto x are very useful. Droid Maxx is possibly the best phone ever made, 52 hours of use is a WIN in my book.

      • Adrynalyne

        My wife does, so technically yeah.

        I disabled a TON of it.

        • 2Berad

          ya with motoroot and titanium backup you can kill it all.

          • Adrynalyne

            Sure. I am discussing this from the average consumer standpoint though, where they don’t do that.