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Chinese Manufacturer Set to Unveil Smartphone With 1440p Display?

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In this industry, it is always about the next big thing. No, not Samsung’s “next big thing.” Last year, consumers focused on 1080p displays and quad-core processors, agreeing that they had to have those specs inside of their next smartphone. As for next year, could 1440p displays be it? According to a recent teaser sent out by China’s Vivo manufacturer, its Xplay3S device’s display will feature an astonishing 2560 x 1440 resolution, a true first for smartphones. 

We have seen this many pixels in plenty of high-end tablets, including last year’s Nexus 10, but when it comes to phones, major companies have yet to break the 1080p barrier. There are many that argue the difference between 720p and 1080p on a phone, given that the human eye can barely, if at all, recognize any difference. Unfortunately, we don’t know the exact display dimensions of this new Chinese device, but we would assume it should be around the 5-6″ range.

Nevertheless, you shouldn’t expect the Xplay3S to hit the States anytime soon. But if any other OEMs are watching, and this device is successfully received by the public, then who knows what could happen.

Is 1440p overkill at this point? Should we wait for battery tech to catch up to the high-res displays and processors? You tell us.

Via: PocketNow

  • Jared Muskovitz

    I like many of you am for more interested in battery life and screen latency. I have the Maxx for its battery and the 720p screen looks nice. Give me a phone that has zero touch lag and a ton of life.

  • Mike

    Really 5-6 Feet I think you meant 5-6″

  • Mike

    Now that phones can record in 4K. Shouldn’t they be able to display the video in 4K? I will not hold my breath.

  • vikings football

    for those people complaining that they cant get a full 8hrs day worth of heavy use on a smartphone, they really need to get a life or go back to using a workstation, haha…becuase i have my note2 with data on 24/7, brightness at 1/3, and have everything else turned off that im not using…i do occassional web surfing, check emails, hardly any phone calls…for me, this is an every day use and i can go on like this for more than 2 days without turning off and no charging.

  • kane

    who cares about battery life or screen res. Show me a phone a phone that can use in bright sun light

  • https://plus.google.com/b/104983600193644243822/104983600193644243822/posts Enrique Labrada

    One word: Why?

  • Patrick Bateman

    these screens would be great with the occulus rift!!!

    • Matthew Merrick

      finally, someone’s come of with a realistic use case for these!
      +1

  • carluverdrm2004

    Definitely work on your battery life first! I’m choosing a Moto X, despite the 720p display(I’ve never complained about the display on my G-Nex), the camera(Don’t mind that the camera isn’t perfect), and the rest of the “low-end” specs in favor of a battery that is bearable.

  • XboxOne

    I can’t wait for 1440p display smartphones!

  • Geoffrey Gunter

    I don’t think its too soon for this technology to exist, but I agree that its too soon to become the standard. 1080p should be the focus at least through 2014 in my opinion. I don’t buy the argument that you cant see a difference, because I’m sure you can, but 1080p is good enough and it would be nice to see a bigger emphasis on software optimization and the overall experience. Samsung, if you’re reading this, try making touchwiz less hideous and laggy before you worry about beefing up the screen. Its a shame to see such a beautiful screen be wasted on horrible ui aesthetics.

    • Carlton Crasher

      on my dads First Gen Nexus 7 to my 2013 Nexus 7(FHD), youtube in “HD”, videos, pictures, don’t really show a big difference, however the biggest thing for 1080p is reading articles and text at smaller zoom…that much i very much notice and like, however at 1440p, i think that though the text may be clear fully zoomed out like 1080p, there would be no point for a phone or a 7″ tablet because your eyes can’t see something that small…

  • Cowboydroid

    It’s hell just trying to find a reasonably priced desktop monitor with that kind of resolution. Now we’re going to start seeing it in handheld phones…

  • Dave

    Zero: exactly the number of times I’ve looked at my GN2 (720p) in the last year and said to myself, “this just doesn’t cut it any more.” Obviously 1080 is techicallly better, but I’d guess lots of people don’t care, and would sacrifice the bump for gains in other categories.

  • samosa king

    Why not 4K resolution? ;P

  • Matthew Merrick

    This is cool tech and all, but I sure as hell don’t want it in my phone. Anything higher than 1080p in a device 7″ or smaller is so overkill its stupid. All it will do is chew up GPU cycles and battery life.

  • Alex Goings

    I want 20 hours heavy use. That is more than I need. Is that too much to ask?

    • JoshGroff

      My Note 2 pulls me through a full day and I do fairly heavy music/video consumption. (~7 hours Netflix and 6-8 music using poweramp) Depends what you consider heavy I guess.

      • Big_EZ

        Everyone’s idea of heavy use is different. I get 6-8 hours of heavy use on my Note 2.

  • http://petervideos.com/ Peter Mansour

    i need a 10,000 PPi screen

  • bionicwaffle

    This is so stupid. It’s worse than non-beneficial. It’s actually a detriment. It will waste storage, bandwidth, CPU cycles, GPU cycles, battery life, and time. This is because it will undoubtedly have some content at that resolution to be native and “look the best”. Even with non-native/max resolution content the display hardware still needs to power and manipulate all those useless pixels.

  • enigmaco

    This is becoming a joke, the human eye can only observe so much.

  • Jaredsutter

    Not 1440p, it’s (W)QHD. Not 1080p, it’s FHD. Not 720p, it’s HD. The N4 has none of those – it is 1280X768, or WXGA.

    When will blogs (and everyone else) stop incorrectly using the -p suffix when discussing display resolutions? P stands for progressive, rather than interlaced, scanning. It has to do with the source material, not the display.

    • QQpayne

      have an upvote sir

    • Ryan O’Neill

      Even if it’s incorrect, it helps most readers. I can never remember what WXGA and QHD and X4kHD3 mean. 1080 pixels, 720 pixels, I understand.

    • andy_o

      You don’t remember actual 1080i displays? Funny story, at the time some tech writers were dismissing the then new “1080p” label as a marketing gimmick cause “there’s no 1080p content”.

      • Lonnie Kerchief

        At the time of those articles, Blu-ray wasn’t yet out and the max delivered over air/cable was 1080i. So at that time, the articles might have been correct. You could do a 3:2 pull-down to get 1080p@30hz, but the content delivered was still 1080i@60hz.

  • Butters619

    Two reasons why this is dumb:

    1) At nearly 500 ppi, it’s way above what your eye can discern, so it’s going to waste battery and processing power for no reason
    2) Content. No content comes in 1140p so it’s going to have to be upscaled. And at best, it would look like 1080p quality. At worst, it might look lower quality because it’s stretched to a non native resolution.

    • Adrynalyne

      3) The performance of the device would suck pushing that many pixels.

      • XboxOne

        unless it’s a quad core processor clocked at least to 3.1 GHZ

  • joejoe5709

    I know we said this about 720p vs 1080p and these specs are a quickly evolving thing, but I’m serious this time… For the record, yes I can tell the difference between a 720p screen and a 1080p screen. It’s not huge, but it is a difference. And to have a phone/tablet with the same resolution as my television is supremely awesome.

    Anything less than a 5-6″ screen is probably juuuuust fine with 1080p. Tablets (especially larger 10″ ones) could get away with this and we’d probably see the difference. It’s debatable for phablets. From here on out, screen optimization is where it’s at. Manufacturers – over the next 12 months please please please focus on battery life, overall durability, and better cameras rather than super high resolution screens.

    • zurginator

      They have been focusing on battery life – the past year has seen MASSIVE bumps in that.
      Durability can be fixed via larger bezels. Are you willing to make that sacrifice?
      Cameras have also been boosted massively in the last 12 months. We’ve gone from the S4′s “ok” camera to the Z1/1020 cameras.

      • joejoe5709

        Battery life has made huge jumps, but I think it’s (mostly) gone from terrible to tolerable. We’ve gone from “lucky to last 8hrs” to a day’s worth of heavy usage. There is still definitely room for improvement and I think that also falls on Android’s optimizations and the processor manufacturers to make improvements to efficiency. I’d like to see a person be able to leave on a short trip (3-4 days) with semi-heavy vacation/business usage and still have 10-20% left when they get home to a charger.

        Similar to battery life, we’ve made huge camera advancements. But I can’t shake the feeling that with a few stellar exceptions we’ve only recently caught up to the iPhone. But even that shouldn’t be where we stop. The day I can leave my point-and-shoot at home and still have poster quality photos is what I’m looking forward to. Like you said, smartphone camera tech is thankfully exploding and this should improve dramatically in 2014.

        Larger bezels don’t mean durability. Better materials, better construction, waterproofing, long-term hardware reliability, etc is what I’m talking about. A beautiful long-lasting everything-proof phone is doable, but it’ll cost $1,500. Something along the lines of the S4 Active or Moto’s nano coatings. It shouldn’t impede upon the design or the experience like the Commando 4G.

        All of which is far more important than squeezing more pixels onto a 5-6″ screen.

  • StuckOnVerizonForever

    If you say “ohh you cant tell difference” please shut up and buy glasses

    • starnovsky

      Or, even better, a microscope

  • SemahjLam

    You guys can’t be serious? It’s Vivo a TV COMPANY so excuse me if I don’t see why they are not working on batteries. You guys act as if nobody is working on battery tech at all because apparently all tech advances at the same constant level.

    • zurginator

      Vivio is the TV company. ;)

      • William Ku

        you mean Vizio?

        • joejoe5709

          You mean Vizio?

        • zurginator

          Lmao that’s the one!

      • SemahjLam

        lol crap sorry

  • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

    “Is 1440p overkill at this point? Should we wait for battery tech to catch up to the high-res displays and processors? You tell us.”

    Question asked at qHD. Question asked at 720p, Question asked at 1080p.

    • mustbepbs

      At the screen size we’re at now, we’re basically at 440+ PPI. I don’t think adding more pixels is going to change anything other than the internals needed to power it to attain desirable frame rates.

      • joejoe5709

        Agreed. The question is getting less and less necessary as we go.

        This is like saying, “Would you like a 200hp car? A 400hp car? A 600hp car?” The answer is almost always yes (cost permitting), but it becomes unnecessary when there are things that are more important to our daily lives like battery life. The same could be said with the processing power but I don’t think we’ve hit that unnecessary point just yet.

    • Butters619

      720p was still borderline what your eye could discern on a 5″ display, so by moving up to 1080p we have gone well over the threshold. Moving the ppi up from there gives essentially no improvement to perceived quality, but a major cost in battery and processing power. We have crossed the cost/benefit threshold.

      • hoosiercub88

        I still have a 720p display and I’ve never had my eyes spontaneously combust and want to die because I could discern a few pixels.

        That question has been asked and the answer is yes 1440p is probably too much, too soon, as is 1080p if you ask me. They’re gorgeous to look at but unfortunately they’re a waste of battery and resources. Until the rest of the device aside from the SoC catches up with the tech we’re still running around in a 2013 Ferrari with 1980′s Ferrari coolant systems.

        • Butters619

          What size is your phone?

          You sort of missed the point I was trying to make though. At 720p, there still are people who can discern pixels on a 5″ display at roughly usable distance. (Even you said you could) At 1080p, there aren’t. That’s 440 PPI. Even people with above 20/20 would not be able to discern pixels at usable distance. So a 1440p display wouldn’t actually look better, but would be more demanding.

  • Jason Kahn

    Batteries should be number one priority over screen pixels, at least on phones. Is the font going to be absolutely tiny with that many pixels to display, particularly on non mobile versions of websites?

  • mustbepbs

    I already can’t distinguish any pixels on my 5″ DROID DNA with 1080p. I see no reason for this on a 5-6″ device.

    • JoshGroff

      I can understand using it on tablets, but 1080p is perfectly fine for large phones.

      • mustbepbs

        Definitely. The N10′s display was magnificent. Tablets need high resolution displays like this.

      • Matthew Merrick

        only on >7″ tablets. have you seen the new nexus 7? that screen is impeccable.

        • JoshGroff

          Yeah, I had one for about a week, it was pretty awesome.

  • moelsen8

    bring on 4k!

    • StuckOnVerizonForever

      Thats the new MacBook Pro.

      • PolarBear

        Does that mean my 17 inch 1080p Laptop won’t last more than 2 years?

        • StuckOnVerizonForever

          U stupid?

  • Jeff

    This news makes me want to get a phone with a 720p screen in protest.

    • starnovsky

      I already have one (Nexus 4), good enough for me.

      • Jeff

        I’m still trying to decide between a Dev Edition Moto X and a Nexus 5.

        • starnovsky

          Nexus 5 is going to be 1080p, I think

          • Jeff

            Yeah. I prefer a smaller screen though, and I doubt I would personally see the difference between a 4.7″ 720p screen and a 5″ 1080p screen.

          • PolarBear

            Yes, it is.

        • moelsen8

          if you haven’t gotten to really try out a moto x, i’d suggest it (and not those in-store tethered models–you need to feel it free where you can get your hand around it and feel the dimple etc). i jumped from the nexus ship and it’s an incredible phone. it’s probably the best-feeling phone in hand i’ve ever had–it’s perfect. nexus 4 feels like holding a huge brick next to it. it’s also snappier, and once you get used to active notifications and the time popping up whenever you touch it, you really can’t go back. it changes the experience entirely. i’m still not done ranting to people about it..

          • zurginator

            Heh… I rather like the ‘brick’ feel of the N4 – especially after coming from the GS2.

          • moelsen8

            to each their own for sure. it’s a bit too wide for me to use one-handed. and too thin – i feel like thinness works against a phone at a certain point.

          • zurginator

            I completely agree on thinness – the issue is it’s a natural progression as the motherboards of devices get slimmer. Otherwise we’ll just have blank space in phones, and that’s the easiest way to make a creaky device.

            As for being ‘too wide’, I actually prefer this form factor. 99.9% of the time I’m using my phone in portrait, and 16:9 just feels too narrow.

          • moelsen8

            eh i wish i didn’t have these bear paws so that i could agree with you. haha.

          • Jeff

            Yeah, my main issue with getting it right now is that I want the Dev edition, but I don’t want the two-tone with silver buttons.

          • moelsen8

            interesting. i have the gsm dev edition, didn’t really even notice the buttons being that color. then again i’m a case person. still, it’s a really nice looking phone. would i have rather had all black? yeah probably, but change is good after years of nexuses.

            why not just get the black t-mobile version? it’s the exact same model as dev edition (xt1053), just with 16gb space instead of 32, and with the same unlockable bootloader (and $50 less). i’ve also learned that you can get the at&t model (xt1058) with an unlockable bootloader by getting a rogers or claro model and then just flashing the at&t fxz file. i was doing a lot of research and looking at phones on swappa before ultimately going the safe route and buying direct from moto.

  • jbdan

    At the least come out with battery tech (yes you’re spot on imo) that will double current tech

  • Kyle Miller

    1440p? Is this what real life looks like?

    • StuckOnVerizonForever

      Pretty sure whats outside your basement is real life. :P

      • Kyle Miller

        But I stay on the 2nd floor.

  • LoganLopez

    Ugh, can’t Samsung or Google get into battery tech? Battery tech would be big enough to save HTC. Give me a battery that will power most phones for a week and isn’t as big as a house and i will buy it.

    • j__h

      I just want a full 12 hours of heavy use and 12 hours light use in one charge.

      • Big_EZ

        Many people claim to get more than a day of heavy use on the Droid Maxx, and Samsung Notes. Those people don’t know what heavy use is…haha. I get between 6-8 hours heavy use on my Note 2 (depending if brightness is all the way down or about 25% brightness)

        • Ej McCarty

          Yeah I can kill the note 3 in about 12 hours. Idk what people consider to be heavy usage but I must be obesely using my phone

        • malcmilli

          yeah “heavy use” is a very arbitrary term often used synonymous with constantly using. I could “heavily” be watching videos non stop and my battery could last 8 hours… or i could “passively” be using turn by turn navigation and my battery wouldnt last 4 hours.

      • Joe

        G2 is a tank. I’ve had no issues

    • zurginator

      Everyone and their mother’s brother’s third cousin is working on batteries – it’s just not something money can be thrown at. Ideas take time, and breakthroughs take ideas.

      • joejoe5709

        Conspiracy theory here:

        Built in obsolescence. Your battery will last you a solid day or two when it’s new. Over two years your battery will shrink to 6 hours. Especially with non-replaceable batteries, it’s time to buy a new phone! If your battery lasted a week and the internals could keep up with trends, you wouldn’t purchase a new phone for at least 3-4 years.

        • PolarBear

          Don’t forget that the CPU/GPU specs are advancing too fast and even some new OS updates or features that comes with these updates(This includes iPhones) won’t be supported easily for older devices.

        • malcmilli

          not entirely true… plenty of phones with removable batteries are still upgraded every 2 years. Battery isnt the only reason people upgrade phones. Design,new features, more powerful, nicer screens, usually drive that ball. Also, there are people today who dont upgrade but every 3+ years, that number might improve some, but it wouldn’t be a drastic difference….

          especially since people in history have often upgraded to phones with worse batteries in exchange for new capabilities… (see dumb phone to smart phone upgrade/blackberry to old androids, etc)

          • hoosiercub88

            No, but batteries are a physical part of a mobile device that physically wears out.

      • Josh Shaw

        Galaxy mega, Galaxy Round, Galaxy Gear. Apparently Samsung has the money to throw at anything.

    • Dave

      My battery on my GN2 goes a solid 2 days with 4-7 hours of screen time on a charge. Good enough for me.

      • LoganLopez

        Which is probably why i will be getting the GN3. I have been due for my upgrade for about a month but can’t pull the trigger. Even though my GNex reminds me every day to upgrade.

      • Big_EZ

        Mine gets about 6-8 hours with about 5-6 hours screen on. I can get two days with about 2 hours screen on time.

      • Ej McCarty

        I’m just confused as to how people get this good of battery life. My note gets about 4 hours screen on time. Am I missing something

    • michael arazan

      Actually it is the U.S. Government funding that is R&D’ing Battery Technology. There was a major breakthrough recently with batteries that will have some ridiculous amount of charge that is 10 x or more longer or powerful than the lithium ion’s being used now. They will be implemented into Vehicle technology first. I think it’s the U of IL Champagne was written about early this year.

      http://www.extremetech.com/computing/153614-new-lithium-ion-battery-design-thats-2000-times-more-powerful-recharges-1000-times-faster

    • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

      Energy efficiency is where research should be going. Just look at haswell.

      • hoosiercub88

        Right, but battery tech hasn’t changed in for-ev-er.. it needs to catch up as well.

  • Shane Redman

    Your last statement summed it up. Better batteries and software enhancements tailor-made for the hardware that supports it. You can have all those pixels for 3 hours during an 8 hour day, but then what?