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Moto X Developer Editions Now Available for Both Verizon and GSM Networks, Priced at $649

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The Developer Editions of the Moto X are now available for both Verizon and GSM networks. Priced at $649, these two devices feature a custom look with black face and white back, along with the words “DEVELOPER EDITION” so that you don’t forget how much of a tinkering boss you are. Should you choose the dev-style, you’ll also get 32GB of storage and an unlockable bootloader.Β 

Motorola points out that with a Developer Edition you can “change settings, flash a new kernel, and pretty much gain superpowers,” which of course also means that you will void your warranty in a hurry.

From a specs standpoint, outside of the 32GB of storage, these Developer Editions remain identical to their carrier-locked counterparts. The Verizon version runs on LTE band 13, but also has global roaming capabilities that will land it on HSPA+ networks. The GSM version runs on LTE bands 2, 4, and 17 (700/AWS/1900MHz), so you should see LTE on T-Mobile and AT&T.

The Verizon version is currently in stock. The GSM version is showing as “out of stock” at the moment.

We should probably point out that the 32GB version from AT&T runs $629, so yes, you are paying a premium just to have an unlockable bootloader and two-toned color job. Worth it? You decide.

Update: Β The DROID MAXX Developer Edition is available as well.

Links: Β Moto X Dev Edition (Verizon | Moto X Dev Edition (GSM)

  • DILNaOH

    I ordered mine soon after this was posted. I just received an email notification that mine has shipped. FedEx tracking info promises a Tuesday (9/24) delivery. I am so ready to ditch my Bionic.

  • Joe Fischer

    Called Motorola…They can’t offer any details as to when the Verizon version will be back in stock. Time for me to start mashing my refreshing button for the next few days

  • DanWazz

    Page says it’s sold out. Not like I have $650 to throw away anyway.

  • aDROIDfreeworld

    Somebody tell me the differences other than the color and memory? Maybe these agree free if all f Verizon’s bloat ware?

    • Joe Fischer

      If you have to ask this, you probably shouldn’t buy this version. Buy the carrier version from Verizon’s website.

      • aDROIDfreeworld

        and what is that supposed to mean? Lol all I want to know is if the verizon moto x developer edition has Verizon’s bloatware on it or not. Like NFL Mobile, My Verizon, etc,.

  • Just as I was about to order the Verizon version, it’s “not available” anymore.

  • Kanaga Deepan N

    This (Dev edition) is the phone Google chairman Eric is using (in old photos) right???

  • Joe Fischer

    The Verizon version is listed as “not available” now….

  • Ian

    Does anyone have the smart actions apk by chance? Moto assist is not cutting it for me

  • whoa

    Is the Verizon logo etched in or is it removable was waiting for this phone but if I’m paying full retail I don’t want carrier branding. Etched or unable to remove no sale!

  • sonicemerald

    I was thinking of trading my S4 for the X, I wish this could be a verizon’s on-contract pricing…

  • DDelcourt87

    So does that mean that if I get the Verizon edition and plan to switch to T Mobile at some point in the future that I can then use the Verizon edition on HSPA+?

  • ranlil

    Dumb question… I just ordered this. Do I get a SIM from Verizon, Motorola, or do I need to cut mine from my Bionic?

  • Charlie

    someone on XDA has TWRP installed on the G2. that makes my decision easier – i’m not dropping 7 hundy for this…

  • Gr8Ray

    Does anyone know if this will be available through Verizon on contract? I don’t really see the point in paying full retail for a device when I’m not going to be leaving the best network in my region for the foreseeable future.

    • That’s the whole point why they create the Dev Edition. Put it simply, Verizon doesn’t want you to have a phone that has a unlockable bootloader. So, they ask the phone maker (in this case, Motorola) make a Dev Edition that one must pay at full retail price. Chances are, if you ask this question, you are not this phone’s target audience.

  • mec

    $599 for 16GB locked on verizon… $650 for 32GB unlocked… seems like a reasonable jump compared to verizons baseline…

    But, $599 is pretty steep to begin with.

  • shecalledmejay

    Whenever the Moto Maker comes to Verizon will it offer the Dev. edition?

  • PolarBear

    Moto X > iPhone 5s

  • Sean Bello

    yeesh…that’s rough. any word on whether touchless control and active notifications are present? I’m guessing not.

    • bboyairwreck

      They should be. This is not a google edition but a dev edition. So unless you flash a custom ROM on there, they should still be there. Its just unlockABLE.

    • MasterEthan

      It’s not a GXE device. It’s a Moto X with an Unlockable Bootloader, so it has everything as usual.

  • socarwolverine

    Honest question, if these are already rooted, why is an unlocked bootloader necessary? What additional benefit do you get over a locked bootloader Moto?

    • Stewie

      Custom Kernels for major reduction of batt life, and possibilities of overclocking if you want to make it faster.

    • googlyeyedfrog

      also, it seems that the developer community pours more effort and support into devices that have unlockable bootloaders. At least, that’s what I’ve noticed

  • TJWaterskier

    Just ordered it. Good bye behemoth-DNA!

    • justapotato

      at that price??? There are so many other better phones out there. You must be on verizon

      • Timothy Bracken

        The things we will do to keep unlimited data.

      • TJWaterskier

        Yup! Unlimited data, and service everywhere I have to travel. I also tried the 5″ screen thing and did not like it. The DNA is a great phone with a beautiful screen, however I want a phone that is entirely usable with one handed without having to shift the phone around in my palm.

    • trwb

      You got this over the DNA!? That’s taking a step backwards.

      • TJWaterskier

        With a DNA that I keep under-clocked and under-volted it really isn’t… Also, as I said below, 5 inch screen is personally too big for my liking. I am also intrigued by the X8 Mobile computing system and want to tinker with it.

        • trwb

          To each his own I guess. I agree that screen sizes are getting too big though.

      • flosserelli

        Seriously? The only thing the DNA has over the X is a better display (and a damn good one). But everything thing else is no contest.

  • A.J.

    I must say after going to the Verizon store and checking out all of the phones including the Moto X, I am very disappointed in the X overall, which is why I went with the G2.

    • flosserelli

      How does it compare to your previous phone? I’m still stuck on the fence.

      • A.J.

        Well I had the Galaxy Nexus and I love the G2. Of course I didn’t do a whole lot of ROMing or anything like that, so while I am technically a developer (I’m a Software Engineer) I’m not the hardcore person who changes ROMs every week.

        For me the battery, screen, and on screen buttons are what sold the G2 for me over something like the S4, Droids, or One.

    • MasterEthan

      I haven’t seen a actual Moto X last time I visited a Verizon Store, and I think DL Show mentioned that as well. Most likely to push the new Droids. So did they have a actual Moto X (on screen buttons) or just a Droid?

      • A.J.

        No it was an X and I was disappointed all the way around in it. I didn’t like the overall feel and it was just sort of “blah” to me. I didn’t even get to the store until after work on Thursday and I had to ask to see the G2 and even then it hadn’t been activated yet so I was the one that activated the floor model.

        • MasterEthan

          Oh okay cool. I’ll go back and take a look again. I also want to check out the G2 myself. Since now TWP is working for Verizon G2 and there’s nothing that I saw that really needs LGs UI, I’d most likely get a more stock rom on it when they come available.

          • A.J.

            I’ll probably root and rom at least a few times when things get a little more established. To me the LG UI isn’t nearly as intrusive as say Sense. When the Nexus comes out things will probably really start to get going for the G2

          • MasterEthan

            How about creating a Wifi AP? I have a Galaxy Nexus with Cyanogenmod and the built in AP just works and I don’t have to pay an ridiculous fees to Verizon to use it. So what about the G2? Will I have to root and flash a rom to get AP without Verizon Addon Fees?

    • hans wee

      really? the menu button on screen alone would kill the G2 for me. the menu button on a 4.x+ build of android is just plain stupid, like what if there is no menu. the arstechnica review of the G2 kind of goes into it.

      • A.J.

        I haven’t had any major issues with it. I was a little confused at first about how to get to the running apps because i don’t go through the tutorials, but after figuring it out it’s fine for me and I am coming from a Nexus.

  • Matthew Rebmann

    Looks like I’m in for the long haul: waiting till November for the Motomaker 32GB version with the DPP

  • MK17

    “We should probably point out that the 32GB version from AT&T runs $579”

    Link???

    Is this only for black and white?

  • Averix

    Are there any valid promo codes out there for the MAXX developer or Moto X Dev? The Motorola checkout has a spot to enter one, but can’t find any valid ones.

  • Kevin

    i wonder how many non-devs will get this

    • Charlie

      not this non-dev.

  • Emerson Kazuo Okaeda

    goxtei!

  • Charlie

    check me if i’m wrong, but when the Moto peeps were initially discussing the concept of the Moto X, didn’t they say that one of the goals was to make it more affordable??

    • guesswhat

      they did not say that for Moto x, they mean’t it more like long term direction and with there future products, now they are trying to make some money to stay afloat otherwise google will shut them down forever..

  • faganm24

    I don’t know why people are freaking out about this price (Both DROID Maxx and Moto X). It is inline with everything we have already seen. Verizon sells this for $599.99 for 16 GB. I don’t know if they have a 32GB version, but AT&T has a $50 upcharge for the storage bump. I agree that it is too expensive, but it is not a surprise…

    • A.J.

      Which is why I was surprised when the G2 came with 32GB of storage for $599.99. I don’t want to say I was “pleasantly” surprised that it was “only” $599.99 because $600 for a phone is ridiculous when you can get a tablet with essentially the same specs for less.

      • guesswhat

        only Google and amazon can bring down the price like that on hw ..as there bussiness model allows them to make money from other services rather than on hw ..

        • Not exactly correct. I think the phone makers actually get a cut from Google for ad referral. If I recall correctly, Google was actually Samsung is becoming so big that a lot of referral pay are going to Samsung.

  • Jordan Pfingsten

    Days guys. Days.

    • Timothy Bracken

      Free.

      Tax is charged, so my final price was $688

      • Ian

        Reply fail. Thanks for the info though

  • Ian

    How much is shipping?

  • anezarati

    “Bring your own SIM” – best part about that.

    • Gr8Ray

      “Devices that have been unlocked are for your personal use only. Once you unlock the device, you can only use it for your personal use, and may not
      sell or otherwise transfer the device.” – worst part about it (legal agreement fine print).

  • Larry Wei

    This might be the closest thing to a Nexus 5 on Verizon

  • Daniel Flores

    Everyone saying ‘No Thanks, I want Nexus 5’…you understand that the Nexus 5 is not coming to Verizon? You want to stay with the best and fastest network, gotta stick with Verizon. I have a lot of issues with Verizon, but they are the best. Hands Down.

    650 is WAY TOO much for paying for last years specs, even if they say it runs smoothly. If I were to spend 650, it’d be for the Droid Maxx. Or even the LG G2. That’s just my opinion.

    • A.J.

      It makes me feel better about paying $600 for the G2 last Thursday.

    • Michael

      Droid Maxx has the same specs as the Moto X does. Just a larger screen and battery. Still “Last years” specs. I think the G2 is the only one worth the off contract price spec wise

      • Daniel Flores

        Yeah…after reading a lot of reviews from all the sites. The G2 has great battery life compared to the Maxx. Better specs and great battery life. I feel I can get past the buttons on the back. The G2 will be my next phone. Just waiting on funds to come in.

        • Reginald Jefferson

          More power to you if you can get past the buttons on the back. That’s the only thing stopping me. πŸ™

          • A.J.

            It’s incredibly easy to get used to the buttons on the back. LG wasn’t just blowing smoke when they said that they tried to make it as comfortable and intuitive as possible.

          • Reginald Jefferson

            I’ll have to get it hand then and try it for myself before I pass full judgement then.

        • googlyeyedfrog

          wait, you read that the G2 has better battery life than the Maxx? where?

          • Daniel Flores

            In the battery section of the G2 Engadget review. Maybe in the Maxx review. Not sure exactly what it says… But I remember it saying the battery life was just as good as the maxx.

  • dmagicp

    Wow that is damn near seven hundred dollars. Why not sell it for a grand.

  • jaybar

    so, how many “days” has it been since this was said to be released?

    Edit: 25 days

  • dgarra

    I hate the fact this isn’t breaking some sort of price fixing law with the crappy $599 – $649 price of off contract phones. Seems to be a law for everything else, may as well add one more that doesn’t screw over the consumer.

  • bboyairwreck

    DROID MAXX DEV EDITION FOR THE SAME PRICE! THIS IS A NO BRAINER! I’M COMING BABY!!!!

    • Timothy Bracken

      I can’t stand on screen buttons. I would like the battery life, but i prefer the form factor of the X.

      • dgarra

        Moto X is the one that has on screen buttons, not the Droid Maxx.

        • Timothy Bracken

          My bad…post edited.

          I literally can’t contain my excitement right now. Maybe I’ll have my X by Friday? Possible, yet unlikely.

      • ToddAwesome

        You mean hardware buttons right? The on screen is what you like.

      • bboyairwreck

        Well if you cant stand on screen buttons, then get the Maxx? But I’m pretty sure you mistyped and mean capacitive buttons.
        And yeah I do like the Moto X form factor but for me battery life precedes over looks. Just my opinion – all love.

        Edit: Yeap you edited it.

  • Timothy Bracken

    Pulled the trigger. If I want an unlocked bootloader on VZW, $650 is the price.

    Funny thing is that I may have to switch carriers when I plan move in a few months. If that happens I’ll be selling my Moto x for a N5.

    • ss48

      I’d be shocked if you get more than $300 for your Moto X. Check the prices on Swappa. But it should be enough to cover your Nexus πŸ™‚

      • Timothy Bracken

        I would think that the dev. editions would go for a bit more, but who knows. I’ll get my use out of it and move along if needed.

        Being an early adopter has never been cheap.

      • Greyhame

        They’re selling at close to $600..?

  • Stewie

    There has got ot be a law that is being broken here. VZ states it cannot have unlocked bootloaders on its netowrk due to the effects it will have on other customer’s experiences, when it fact it just comes down to paying to have a phone that will do it.

    • middlehead

      These are called Developer Edition for a reason.

  • Ronald Bernard

    Well seeing that this price tag is a bit to steep I def will have to wait on Nexus 5. Which I honestly prefer to replace my GNEX. Next problem……network. So as it stands Nexus 5 has about as much chance of being on Verizon as I have getting it on with Brooklyn Decker. So……now I need some help from my fellow Droid Lifers. I live in Mass, so if any of you do. Other than Verizon what is my best option as for a new carrier. Mind you I use an average of 8GB of data each month. So who is the cheapest for data and who still offers unlimited that may carry the Nexus 5. All suggestions are welcome!

  • flyinggerbil

    just bought mine for verizon. hope i don’t come to regret this decision. we’ll see…

  • Raven

    Argh! The dev editions are such overkill for what I want. I have no
    interest in ROMing and replacing the bootloader, kernel, and radios. I just want rooted stock. I just want to be able to run Titanium Backup and a couple of other root apps. Is that so much to
    ask?
    /rant

    • Charlie

      if you just want rooted, the Moto X has already been rooted (at least temporary root). i would tend to think that permanent root isn’t too far away…

  • Jeremy Martin

    Does that price include lube?

    • flosserelli

      Yes, as well as your choice of flavors.

  • Butters619

    Wellllllllllll…………….Nexus 5.

  • Matthew Rebmann

    And my dreams of the Device payment plan for this phone have been dashed T_T The Dev is only available via Moto’s site πŸ™

  • Chase Chick

    650? Might as well make it a million!

    • Butters619

  • Jeff

    If this was $450 I’d buy one right now, even with the Nexus 5 right around the corner.

  • trwb

    I hope people aren’t planning on buying this and selling it in 6 months to make some of their money back. The resale value is in quick decline on the moto x. Already selling in the high $400 range on swappa.

    • NexusPhan69

      I noticed that. So glad that I didn’t buy it. My initial thought was Moto X until the Nexus 5 but I instead grabbed a Nexus 4 and will get the Nexus 5 when it comes out. Nexus 4 on Swappa is still higher than I paid for mine.

      • flosserelli

        N4 has amazing resale value. I kinda wish I had bought some just to flip.

        • NexusPhan69

          Apple fans? Where are you? Did I hear resale value? Haha. Price is going to creep up again now that it’s sold out.

    • Ian
    • King Lo

      Ebay as well. Most of them are selling okay but I’ve seen as low as $430

    • Reginald Jefferson

      There over $500 on swappa….

      • trwb

        I was looking at the At&t ones sorry. Looks like the Verizon ones hold a higher value for some reason.

        • Pedro

          They’ve been certified.

  • Seiga

    Kellex. Might want to update the page to show that the Maxx also has a dev edition, however there is no Ultra dev edition. Just Maxx and X. Both going for the same exact price with Verizon.

  • cuz2333

    so if you buy this one for Verizon, can you still carry the insurance on it? I have never bought one from the developer, but rather just rooted instead.

    • King Lo

      Yes you can still get total mobile protection. That comes from Asurion.

  • ranlil

    i just pulled the trigger

  • sr20s13

    I just bought the moto x on verizon and got it today (full retail)…. PISSED this didn’t happen last week so i’m now stuck with the 16gb locked version till I sell it in a few months once moto maker is available

    • flosserelli

      You can return it but VZW will charge a restocking fee.

      • sr20s13

        Yeah but its not worth my effort really, i’d still rather have a custom moto x, because do dev’s even really support devolper edtions because i’m no dev and i’m sure rom’s are coming and a bootloader unlock for the normal verizon x

        • Ian

          Did you really just say: “do dev’s even really support developer editions”?

  • Seiga

    Why on earth would you get a moto x dev edition for Verizon at $649 when you can get the Maxx developer edition for the same price:

    http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all-mobile-phones/Droid-Maxx-Developer-Edition/m-Droid-Maxx-Developer-Edition.html

    • T S

      good call. wow.

    • Jeff

      I would rather have the Moto X because of looks.

      • Seiga

        Have you felt the Maxx and the kevlar feel? It doesn’t have the cheap feel to it that most phones have. It’s just slightly heavier, but dimensions are roughly the same. Screen size is bigger on the Maxx, and it’s relatively thin for having 3500 mAh battery. Not trying to sell you on the Maxx, I’m just saying for the same price of an unlocked phone and having 48 hours theoretic battery life with the same hardware seems to be more appealing.

        • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

          But it’s ugly though. And 720p at 5 inches isn’t appealing.

          • Ian

            Somehow it is at 32 inches though?

          • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

            You’re not sitting 5inches from a 32 inch screen. That’s a stupid comparison.

          • Ian

            I’m not sitting 5 inches from a 5 inch screen either.

          • bboyairwreck

            … Im pretty sure he’s talking about the screen size therefore the Pixel Per Inch which is the proper way to determine clarity on a screen. Not saying he’s 5 inches away… lol

            PS i’m with you on the Maxx but you lost me here haha

          • Ian

            Sure thing. But then you can factor how far you are away from that inch of pixels.

            Either way what I’m trying to get at is none of us would be able to see any difference between these two screens, although some will claim to be able to.

          • bboyairwreck

            Okay i see what you mean now. Touche Touche

        • Jeff

          Just basing it off of looks, and I prefer the Moto X greatly. I also don’t need as much battery because I leave 3g on, since I’m almost always connected to wifi. With my phone usage I get 1-2 days out of phones people have said last less than a day. I also prefer a 4.7″ screen to a 5″ screen.

    • Matthew Rebmann

      on screen buttons and a phone that doesn’t look gaudy (personal opinion)

    • beng8686

      Too bad droid-life didn’t say anything about that… Stuck with the regular Verizon Maxx now… Thanks DL.

      • Ian

        LOL are you really blaming DL? You have the interwebz.

    • mcdonsco

      wish I would have known about that when I paid full retail for mine…grrr…I bought mine on August 20th (release day)…when did this hit the moto store?

      • Joe Fischer

        Are you guys kidding? Motorola announced they would be releasing a verizon dev edition when they announced the non dev version. Good one

        • mcdonsco

          Apparently a number of folks missed that along with me…My guess is Moto may have announced it but Verizon didn’t? Dunno, all I know is I knew about the maxx before it was released, picked it up on day one and this is the first I’ve heard of the dev edition.

          But my question to you is, whats your point? Just trying to be an ass? If so, carry on, good job.

          • Qwerty

            You’re right. Motorola announced a developer edition would be available, but not Verizon. I remember reading it here on DL when the Moto X was announced.

      • tomn1ce

        That my friend is your fault for buying it on release day….No one else to blame but you…. O_O

    • flyinggerbil

      it’s too big and i don’t like the overall design. i do wish the moto x had a huge battery like the maxx but that’s pretty much the only thing it’s missing for me.

  • they call me Rob

    $650 seems a bit high…

  • ckdk44

    Cant customize the look, not worth the ….”premium”…-_-
    Getting AT&T version….*mic drops*

  • T S

    so. . only available on moto’s site and no verizon payment plans. no thank you.

  • Steve B

    Freaking rip-off.

  • litobirdy

    if ya are debating between this and Nexus 5 and you’re a verizon user, stop debating. Nexus 5 is not coming to Verizon

    • Seiga
    • Allen George

      And you know this how?

      • Rammstein

        Per Sarge

        • El_Big_CHRIS

          Haha! I hated BIONIC and the idiot sarge

          • Qwerty

            You’re not the only one. I’m positive everything Bionic ever wrote was a downright lie. Notice we haven’t seen him since? Pretty sure he’s going under a different user name now and continuing to annoy people.

          • CarRAMrod

            Yeah, he’s Godzilla.

          • Qwerty

            Hahaha I actually suspected that might be him. They’re so alike.

          • Steve Ballmer

            It is the same guy. He was called out by the Rammstein guy here http://www.droid-life.com/2013/08/08/rumor-motorola-nexus-coming-in-q4/

          • Steve Ballmer

            Edit: You’ll have to scroll down a bit in that article’s comments to find it.

          • Qwerty

            Oh yeah. Gozilla is totally Bionic. No doubt about that now.

          • tomn1ce

            He snoops around with Godzilla….

          • Nagini

            He’s going by “Godzilla” now.

      • No Bands!

        And FCC filings of the supposed N5 don’t show VZW bands.

      • trixnkix637

        Pretty much a well established thought that the N5 won’t be on VZW.

      • Butters619

        The phone that is so far leaked through the FCC does not support the main Verizon band of LTE. No way Verizon would release a phone that worked on 5% of their LTE network. Now, it’s possible there is a second version made for Verizon, but given the fact that we have had no leaks or FCC docs, that seems unlikely.

      • Qwerty

        Given the ongoing fiasco with the current LTE Nexus 7, I’d be more surprised if Verizon actually did offer the Nexus 5.

  • Matthew

    So I’m supposed to pay a butt-load of cash out of pocket, and it’s not even available in black, let alone via MotoMaker? Fail.

  • Josh Tiffany

    does it still have all the fancy features? like google now always on?

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Yes. The only difference between this and the regular Moto X on Verizon is more storage and an unlockable bootloader, that’s it.
      Edit: oh, and the two-tone color scheme.

      • flosserelli

        That and an extra $50. But double the memory is worth another $50.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          True. That seemed slightly less important than the bootloader though πŸ™‚

          A bypass is great, but is never better than a true unlock. Bonus, Verizon doesn’t earn a dime off the device sales.

    • Adam Emshwiller

      that’s what makes this phone special… it would be a big loss if they didn’t include that stuff.

      • Josh Tiffany

        thats why i was asking…

  • thedonxr

    I was hoping that it didn’t have “Verizon” tramp stamped on the back…

    • NexusPhan69

      Unreal. How is everyone not outraged at Verizon for all of the BS that the pull. How can anyone still give them money?

      • Josh Tiffany

        sadly when you’re locked into a contract and still have unlimited data you have no choice… and im tired of my gnex.

        • NexusPhan69

          I ETFed 4 lines from Verizon and have unlimited data from T-Mobile. I’ll make my money back from the ETF in about 5 months. Not including selling the Verizon phones and buying new ones.

          Oh and now I’ll own a new Nexus every year and be saving a ton of money. It’s an amazing feeling being free.

          • Brian Menius

            Man what. This is eerie. Are we on the same wavelength right now or what?! LOL

          • NexusPhan69

            What baffles me is why everyone who reads Droid-Life and cares about phones are freedom (and lives in a somewhat densely populated area) have not already done this.

          • Qwerty

            Very true that many people are unhappy with Verizon, but I’m sure a good chunk of them aren’t willing to jump ship to another carrier which might have questionable coverage/service. I’ve been contemplating that myself, but since I have two other people on my plan it’s hard for me to do so without being fair.

          • googlyeyedfrog

            My actual apartment is in a good coverage area for TMO, but on the drive to school or work or to a friend’s place I might lose coverage and have a dropped call on their network. I use my phone to talk a lot and can’t accept dropped calls as part of my service. Hence why I stay with Verizon. My guess is that many other people are in my same boat.

            I live in Manchester, CT btw

        • Brian Menius

          Bullhockey. If they’re the only provider with coverage in your area, sure. But…

          I had three lines under contract with Verizon (with unlimited LTE on my line). I paid $780 in ETFs to blow that joint and move to TMobile. After selling phones and recouping some of the cost (plus some help from TMo on the ETFs), I broke even within six months.

          It was Verizon’s holier-than-thou attitude toward the Note II that really pushed me over the edge.

          Sure, I took a cut in coverage with my cut in cost, but there are some cases where principles have to remain a contributing factor. I do not support or respect Verizon as a company, and cutting ties with them was important to me.

          • NexusPhan69

            I’m going to create 50 new Disqus accounts so I can keep up-voting you. I’m in the same boat!

          • Ian

            +1 for Bullhockey reference

        • flyinggerbil

          this exactly. i am tired of my gnex and too chicken to jump to t-mobile at the moment. we’ll see in a year’s time.

          • NexusPhan69

            Try them for a month like I did. SIM card is $0.99 and activate the $30 unlimited data plan. Total was around $34 for me after all taxes. Just need to find a phone to borrow for a month that supports HSPA+ I bought a Nexus 4 for $199 and was going to resell it on swappa if I wanted to stay with Verizon. It ended in 4 ETF fees to Verizon and complete happiness with T-Mobile.

          • flyinggerbil

            i hear you. my work actually tested nexus 4s on t-mobile and i took part in the pilot program. the overall service was alright but not as robust in my area as vz. i hate it, but they do have the best coverage. not saying t-mobile won’t catch them but they have an uphill climb. then there’s the whole unlimited data plan angle… if they do away with that once they open up volte them i’m out the door for sure.

          • NexusPhan

            I was willing to go from coverage 99% of the time to 95% of the time to save $150 a month (5 lines) and have a new Nexus every year. I have no regrets. Don’t count on T-Mobile to expand coverage much. They’ll just continue to upgrade existing areas to better coverage first (If I had to guess)

          • Brian Menius

            I’m saying TMobile won’t catch up with them. It’s just the reality of the gap between the two, unfortunately.

          • ChuckG73

            Just buy a used gsm phone and get a prepaid tmobile sim card and try it out. That is what I did and I loved it in Richmond, VA. When we went to my wife’s parents summer house which we visit every weekend, my VZW Gnex got a weak 4G LTE signal my Nexus 4 with pre-paid sim had No service. πŸ™

      • flosserelli

        Some people have no choice. Others are either apathetic or just plain stupid.

  • NorCalGuy

    So the question now becomes since Vz is letting the moto x on their network with an unlocked bootloader what is holding them back from offering the nexus line?

    • JamesU513

      Nexus will be affordable and more people will have it

    • mustbepbs

      Incompatibility with their network. Verizon still uses CDMA for voice, and the Nexus phones haven’t had the right innards to be compatible. Until Verizon is complete LTE (VoLTE), you won’t see a Nexus unless Google makes one FOR Verizon.

      • tomn1ce

        If they do what they’re doing with the LTE Nexus 7 (2013) the future of a Nexus on vzw looks very, very gloomy.

      • NorCalGuy

        This might be the only real reason here but you would think that with the size of the Vz user network they would make it happen. Vz is the company these phone companys want to impress they are the biggest with the most money.

    • j973

      I bet there is some Bloatware on there

    • flosserelli

      It’s less likely Verizon holding back, and more likely Google holding back. Google already went down that road with the Galaxy Nexus, and look how that turned out.

      • NorCalGuy

        Then why would they sell the Vz edition moto x and droid maxx unlocked? They own moto so if that wasn’t in their plan they wouldnt sell dev editions to Vz customers.

        • flosserelli

          Motorola & Verizon’s “Droid” line of phones goes way back beyond Google’s acquisition of Motorola. Verizon is still Motorola’s premiere business partner. It makes complete sense for Motorola to offer as many Droid devices on Verizon as possible, including specialized “developer” versions. The fact that these are unlocked makes no difference, so long as the consumer buys the phone with the knowledge that any tampering (ie, flashing custom roms & kernels) voids the warranty, which absolves Verizon of any warranty claims. Verizon will be happy to take your $650, but if you brick it, you are on your own.

          The Nexus line is different. Even though Motorola is owned by Google, Google doesn’t have the same partnership with Verizon. Motorola has licensed proprietary binaries that allows them to produce CDMA-capable devices. Google/Nexus does not share this status.

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      The snafu that is the Nexus 7 LTE launch for Verizon should give you a clue. To Verizon, a Moto X dev edition looks exactly like any other XT1060. The only difference is that it is sold directly through the OEM, just like the other dev editions.
      A Nexus device must be certified to work on their CDMA from the get-go. Verizon doesn’t like unlocked bootloaders, but they really can’t stop dev edition sales. A Nexus they can simply refuse to certify, and that’s that. We all see what happened during the Galaxy Nexus debacle, so another Nexus on Verizon while their CDMA network is necessary for fallback is highly unlikely.

  • j973

    For the price they want . NO THANK YOU . NEXUS 5 PLEASE

    • Jeff

      Only benefit I personally see on the Moto X is that I like the size and looks of it more (don’t know if Nexus 5 will come in 32gb flavor yet either). Aside from that, I’d feel like a moron every time I pulled this out of my pocket for buying it over a Nexus 5, especially at this price.

      • Razma

        well the one clear advantage for the moto X is that it IS available on Verizon, something the new Nexus probably wont

  • TheRunner024

    For the people who own the Moto X: How good is the camera?

    • htowngtr

      Hit or miss. Sometimes awesome, sometimes very meh. I think the actual hardware is great, it’s just that moto needs to tune the software app.

      • Jason Kahn

        Have you tried a 3rd party App, I’ve always liked the picture quality that Camera ICS took as compared to the stock google camera app on Verizon Galaxy “Nexus”

      • TheRunner024

        Thanks for the response. The camera is the only thing holding me back from getting this phone.

  • Joe

    649.99. LOL

    • Steve Ballmer

      Same price as the Droid Maxx. LOL

      • BrandonWhite116

        Agree, the Droid Maxx is currently the best phone on the market.

      • Allen George

        Who let Steve Ballmer in here?

    • phathands

      Plus way too close to the nexus 5 release for that price.

  • Jeff Tycz

    In before Verizon lists this device as not certified with their network

  • EdubE24

    Need a root method for the S4 so I can have a developer edition!

  • hans wee

    i have the 16GB t-mobile one which is probably really similar to the 32GB GSM. best phone i’ve ever had. i’ve got a coworker with a HTC one, and another with a lumia 1020, and well its smoother than the One probably close to the 1020. And for an android phoen thats great. kind of wish I waited the extra week even though its highly unlikely i’d use the extra 16GB . the color scheme is pretty nice!

    • htowngtr

      I wish I had the T-Mo version just to get it unlocked then place ATT sim.

  • beng8686

    I couldn’t get past the tiny screen coming from a Gnex. Instead, I paid full retail for the Maxx and am not regretting it.

    • It’s the same size screen, in fact, it’s a bit bigger.

      • Heh exactly, it’s actually slightly bigger than the Gnex screen.

        • JamesU513

          .05 ha

      • beng8686

        Meant battery sorry.

        • Robert Macri

          Battery lasts all day… really. Maxx will get you two days.

          • beng8686

            Depends on what you do. I prefer having the juice when I need it. Maxx lasts me about a day and a half. I use my phone extensively for work and normally not on WiFi.

    • NexusPhan69

      It’s the same size screen as the Gnex.

  • Kentholio

    Now if Verizon can only get moto maker with wood backs, and 32 gb.

  • cheese

    that off contract price makes me want to go out and buy an iPhone 5S

    • NexusPhan69

      Gross.

  • ColoradoXJ133

    Argh, I’ve been telling myself I would buy this as soon as it came out (on Verizon unlimited…) and now I am having trouble pulling the trigger.

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      /agree. I already decided to move to T-Mobile, and the Dev edition is compatible. But with a Nexus likely under a month out, I have a really tough time hitting the “go” button without seeing it first.

      • ColoradoXJ13

        Yes, but chances of the Nexus 5 working on verizon are slim.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          See the “moving to T-Mobile” comment πŸ˜‰

          As for you, the Moto X is the absolute closest to a Nexus you will be getting on Verizon for at least the next two years, so go for it. If I was staying, I would have ordered one already.

      • flosserelli

        If you are torn between this and the N5, you are better off waiting for the N5. If you still prefer the Moto X, then by all means get it. But given the N5 will be a “developer edition” by default and almost half the price, I suspect the choice won’t be hard to make.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          True, especially since info on Moto Maker opening up will likely be available by then.

          I love my Nexus 7, so if the 5 is just a mini version of that, I’m pretty much sold. I like the software features on the X, but it may ultimately be the cost that wins my over.

      • NexusPhan69

        I’m actually really glad you went with T-Mobile. I think we’ve talked about this in Disqus before. I’m like their recruiter right now. I couldn’t be happier with everything from them and I’ve had no complaints from all the other people I’ve convinced to switch either.

        • Steve B

          Since you’re a T-Mobile proponent, do you also recommend Solavie?

          • NexusPhan69

            ??

          • Steve B

            Solavie is a MVNO on T-Mobile’s network.

          • NexusPhan69

            Don’t know anything about it. Sorry.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Ultimately it is the price that got me. I have a really great deal on Verizon that is actually better than what T-Mobile offers for the same level of service.
          What ultimately does it is the device cost. If I can get a Nexus 5 for $300 less than the Moto X dev edition, then the $600 saved between two phones is enough to finally sway me. Not by much, mind you, but enough.

    • Dreas

      I pulled the trigger :/

      • Lou_C

        Me too, friend.

    • Timothy Bracken

      Pulled the trigger. $50 is worth an additional 16gb storage.

  • thedonxr

    Aww SNAP!

  • htowngtr

    Now that root has been enabled it’s not such a big loss.

    • ROOTTT

      Yup. Was gonna pick this up but now that I got root and a way to bypass the bootloader on my moto x ill just stick with what i got.

  • Damian

    “Days” later…..

  • litobirdy

    So I can’t buy this in the verizon store? So I can try the device payment plan?

    • Steve Ballmer

      Sold straight though Moto so I doubt it.

  • Gnex

    Lol, that’s funny.

  • joejoe5709

    WAAAYYYYY too expensive.

    • lgreg64

      show me a cheaper dev phone that works on the Verizon network

  • Eric

    Finally! I’ve been waiting for days! At this point I’ll wait a few more “days” for the Nexus 5 to compare the two.

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      I’m with you. It will likely be no contest though, as the Nexus 5 is looking to ridiculously beastly AND cheap.

      • Chris Stuart

        Have there been rumors on its price? I don’t know how low they will be able to keep the price with the specs that bad boy is packing

        • Butters619

          Don’t think there has been any leaks on pricing yet. I am fully anticipating a $50 price increase, but they better release 16/32gb models.

          • Justin W

            I agree with your thoughts on the price increase, especially if they do go with a SD 800 and a 1080p display. I’m interested in getting it, but I have been looking at the Note III and am tempted to get that for the screen size, but I’ll be waiting until the Nexus is announced to decide…

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          No rumors as yet, I’m just making a massive unsubstantiated assumption.

          Even with the specs we know about, if the BoM and development/management costs are similar to the Nexus 4, the next device should be priced similarly. This go-around, I fully expect a price bump to $349 and $399, but I think we could all live with that given the alternatives.

  • evan brown

    NEED MONEYZ

  • EricRees

    Got my Moto X already, I’m happy with it.

    • fartbubbler

      same.

    • JamesU513

      i second that

    • Daeshaun Griffiths

      For $140 + 50 gb of drive for 2 years valued at $50-60. This was a steal!!!!

      • Nothing like the 1TB of storage I got with my Pixel :^)

    • mustbepbs

      Ron was right all along…

      • New_Guy

        Ha! That never gets old πŸ™‚

    • Gato Mafioso

      Is this happiness worth $649?

      • Jordan Pfingsten

        I paid 677. Yes.

      • EricRees

        No, it was worth getting the regular Verizon edition for $200.

        • Gato Mafioso

          Thanks for the response. I would have gotten the regular version but 16GB isn’t enough for my needs. I’ll probably wait a bit more and see if the supposed price drop that may happen sometime in the 4th quarter will make it more tempting. Hopefully that price drop isn’t limited to just the non-dev editions.

          • Brady KEITH

            fwiw, VERIZON30 works on the verizon website (as of this afternoon), dropping the device price from $200 to $140 (w/2 yr contract).

      • calum wilper

        we probably won’t know whether it’s worth it until we see what kind of dev support it gets

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    EDIT: PASS.