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New FCC Docs Accidentally Give Us Multi-Angle Images of New LG Nexus

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LG recently submitted a “class 2 permissive change” to the FCC for Verizon’s variant of the G2, known internally as the LG-VS980. With the G2 launching on Big Red today, these last minute submissions are apparently typical. That said, there is nothing typical about this one, as it appears to be a screw-up either at the FCC or by LG. The documents are available for the world to see at this point, something that tends to happen once a phone is made available, but they do not show the LG G2 for Verizon. No sir, they show the LG-D820 in a variety of images, a device better to known to us as the next Nexus device or potentially, Nexus 5

As can be seen on the lower white sticker in the top image, the model number shows as LG-D820. The actual images themselves depict a device that matches up exactly to the phone seen in a Googler’s hands during the Kit Kat unveiling, and also last week’s FCC docs for the LG-D820. We’ve already laid out our reasons to believe that this is the next Nexus, if you haven’t read it yet.

We have a top left-positioned camera lens with flash below. On LG G2 models (all of them), the camera is centered with flash, volume, and power located directly below it. As you can see in these images, the volume rocker and power switches are located in the more traditional spots on the left and right sides of the device. Again, this is clearly not the G2.

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In the top and bottom shots of the phone, which are incredibly blurry, you can pick out microUSB and headphone ports. On the G2, you have microUSB and headphone jack both on the bottom of the device, not on opposite sides of each other like we are seeing here.

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Also, keep in mind that this looks like a very early prototype and by no means is a finished product. So no, that top notch is likely not a fingerprint scanner if that’s what you were thinking. If you look at the image below with the back removed, there is nothing underneath it from what we can tell. Oh, and this also does not mean that the back is removable – it’s simply the FCC digging under the hood. The 2300mAh battery is confirmed yet again, though.

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And is it just me or does this look identical to the shape of the Nexus 4? Thoughts?

Via:  FCC | Phonescoop | @evleaks [top image]

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    This goes against what I stand for but this is not a nexus i’m interested in. I’m curious to see why the camera is so ugly and if it shoots better than previous gens. Kit kat holds my main interest. On screen keys + all that bottom bezel? nty. Maybe the Moto X has spoiled me. Maybe the function will win over its form.

    • Cory Wilson

      Yeah I agree the bezels are too large on the 4. I think the 4 had a reason though, and the reason was the LG Optimus G was the exact same phone in a different shell. The Optimus G had physical buttons so the bezel was extended to fit the same motherboard. This phone however looks to be built from the ground up so there isn’t an excuse. And the moto X is absolutely amazing btw

  • abhele

    looks like a samsung captivate

  • Laborin_HK

    I slightly regret getting a HTC one knowing this was incoming. Slightly.

    This looks much more mature than the Nexus 4, but I’m happy with my Htc one.

  • Patrick Bateman

    when dis shyte cummin out? plz excuze my gramar im typing from a palm pre 2…

  • howitzerr

    I think i see a back cover partly peeled of
    Removable battery ??!!!

  • Trysta

    Maybe it has already been mentioned by someone else but does anyone feel like Google is trolling us hard?!

    I mean come on!

    LG: Whoops I “accidentally” slipped some nexus 5 photos in with the Verizon G2. How did that happen? My bad! Please tech blogs don’t post this all over the interwebs!

    Also for anyone going back to the actual FCC website both the original leak (on the D820 listing) and this current leak were pulled fairly quickly from the list of FCC docs in a suspiciously similar manner to the Kitkat 4.4 unveiling video.

    Hopefully if Google is trying to generate buzz they aren’t going to leave us hanging for long!

  • http://twitter.com/jdrch jdrch

    Love the grippy backing and the obvious removable back panel, which means the battery is replaceable :)

    • chris420o

      not necessarily

  • Nee Austin

    Can the camera can be top notch whatever it is? I recall having read that open source is a primary hindrance to great camera results?

  • Akashshr

    Marry me! Have my babies! :-)

  • Mike Hilal

    2300mah 3.8v Li-Poly Battery….le sigh

    • Skittlez

      why?

      • Mike Hilal

        Too small, and it looks like it is not removable.

        • Skittlez

          why would it be too small? 2100mah in the nexus 4 got me through more than a day

          • Mike Hilal

            on GSM w/o LTE. With LTE and/or CDMA, anything less than 2800 isnt gonna cut it. Gnex owners will fill you in.

          • PhantomGamers

            i run lte on my nexus 4 and battery life is pretty good… gets me through a day with about 3 hours on screen time average (it varies a lot though :/)

          • Mike Hilal

            Right, as LTE and GSM do not run simultaneously…this is not a shocker. LTE and CDMA DO run simultaneously on the verizon gnex (the one in question here) and vaporize even the extended battery in under 8 hours on LTE with 3 hours of screen time. Jeff might have 1-2 hours on screen max to get those kinds of battery life

          • PhantomGamers

            the device in question here is the nexus 5 with its 2300mah battery ;P, which wont be on vzw so cdma is irrelevant. i would expect the experience to be similar to the nexus 4

          • Mike Hilal

            we dont know that 100% yet, but you’re probably right. Vzw screwed the pooch on the gnex. If they built one with CDMA2000 and the right radio frequencies, verizon would be required to activate it…but not support it. They should have done this from the start.

          • Skittlez

            i am a g-nex owner. my 1850 used to get me 17-20 hours in like the first year or so.

          • jeff

            But not a Verizon gnex owner. 15 hours max on CDMA, 11-13 on LTE. And thats on the extended 2100mah battery. Mike has it right.

  • chris125

    We can only hope this isn’t a mix up and indeed the nexus will come to Verizon

    • Skittlez

      the verge still seems to think it’s possible for 1 to come to each carrier, even with this “mix-up”. still have hope

  • aBabyPenguin

    Do we know if the new Nexus will have Gorilla Glass? The GNex didn’t and I was pissed when I found little scratches on my screen. I take good care of my devices, and the scratches on my GNex are minimal, but I would like to rest assured that my future Nexus still look pretty in a year or two.

  • chris125

    Looks pretty darn thick. Google is starting to turn into apple with making their devices look the same

    • zurginator

      Or Sony, or Samsung, or Motorola (pre-X rebranding), or HTC (now that they’ve established themselves).

      It’s called creating a brand image, and it’s vital for a company to do.

    • Mike Hilal

      Do you not want accessories? This is why apple phones have them and android phones do not. Retooling costs would make for $99 desktop docks…oh wait…

  • Pakmann2k

    So it looks like the sim slot is just below the power button. There also appears to be another slot on the opposite side 1/2 way down from the volume rocker. Crappy pictures make it hard to see but I think there is a slot there. Micro SD? With the amount of attachment points from the backplate to the main device, I would say this is not going to be “battery” serviceable. I also doubt that the battery in this “FCC device” is the one that will ship with the new device, it just doesn’t fit right and when you are building devices with such small tolerances, you don’t leave gaps around something like that. There are multiple contact points from the back plate to the device, NFC can be seen and I assume wireless charging for the four silver points. At the top there seems to be 3 x 2point connections on top for antennas built into the door. Add in the fact that the main speaker is also built into the back door (below flash hole) in lieu of on the main board, there seems to be more than enough evidence to point that this back plate is not meant to come off.

  • Sirx

    Naw. I’ll wait for it to come out first. Then I’ll wait for it to have some obvious, “What the hell was Google thinking?” flaw: poor battery life, bad materials, software spaz, etc. Then I’ll wait for the Nexus apologists to come in and say “What’s a flagship without a few quirks. It’s good enough.” (after roasting other OEMs over an open flame for the same “quirks” for months, mind you) and “But the updatez!” Then I’ll pass on it to get a phone that does what you expect it to do how you expect it to be done.

    And for anyone who wants to argue otherwise, I have three words for you: Three-way call.

    • joejoe5709

      Then we’ll see you in 12 months when you’re still stuck on 4.2.2 and ask you what you think. My GNex sucks as a phone, but the dev community makes it one of the best. Without them, it’s not an awesome phone. I’ll give you that.

    • Skittlez

      i wouldn’t knock the battery. the 2100mah that came in the nexus 4 would get me through more than 1 day of use.

      • chris420o

        no lte

  • valapsp

    why on earth a 2300mah battery. What happened to you Google?

    • joejoe5709

      They’ve never changed. Look at all the Nexus phones/tablets and even the Moto X. None of them have large batteries for their class. But somehow we still love them to death.

    • Skittlez

      battery still lasts a long time. other phones need that battery to counteract the drain from the skins

      • Dee

        not according to most of of the n4 users over at xda

        • Skittlez

          i was a N4 user, and i would get over a day of use. 18 hours was the least i got. and thats 2100mah

      • valapsp

        alibi!

  • RXG9

    Please have a removable back/battery! Also it’s too bad that the headphone jack is on top of the device.

  • zombiewolf115

    idk why but i like the look of my nexus 4 better feels more idk sexier. but dont get me rong its a good looking phone. but i rather stay on my nexus 4 till next years nexus comes out. hopefully moto or sony makes the next model

  • RXG9

    Please have a removable back/battery!

  • RXG9

    :( doesn’t look like it will have a removable back. How come Samsung is the only company to make phones with removable backplates!

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  • jayman1576

    Thoughts: Why oh why is the headphone jack on the top and the usb on the bottom? Don’t they realize how awkward that is when both have cables attached? Ugh. dumb design if you ask me. Keep the ports in the same place!

  • kkloster

    but the third picture down makes it look like it does have a removable back, with snap tabs like the galaxy nexus has almost.

    • Skittlez

      that back on the phone isn’t the final though, so we won’t know until we get more pics of the final product

      • acras

        The FCC filing stated non-removable backplate

        • Skittlez

          I didn’t mean for that comment to be here. It was for someone that said there was no nexus on the back of the device

  • Jerry13

    From The Verge

    Update: Leaks so far suggest there will be at least two different Nexus 5 models. The model leaked last week (called LG-D820) had wireless radios that could support AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile LTE. Today’s FCC filing shows a model known as LG-VS980, which is explained in the filing as being “identical” to the previously-certified LG G2 for Verizon Wireless save for “some” hardware and software changes. The filing shows that this model has radios that could support Verizon’s LTE bands, namely 13 and 4, as well as the carrier’s 3G CDMA network.

    • jh123416

      Just read this. Good god. I have hope.

    • Dale

      I share your hope but I think this was only a mistake. The setup pictures in the same batch of FCC updates clearly show the Verizon G2 being tested.

      What we can wait and see is whether or not these pictures get taken down. If not, it may not be a mistake.

      • Trysta

        the pictures have already been taken down as far as I can tell (but the same is true of the original D820 leak).

    • joejoe5709

      Link? This could make my day.

    • Steve B

      That was a mistake. Did you even read this article?

      • NexusPhan69

        Do you read his article? It is clearly not a mistake.

        • Steve B

          Again, Kellen disputes this above. There’s a plethora of misinformation out there today and the Verge just added to it. The pictures are indeed of the Nexus 5, but the FCC filing is clearly for some G2 variant. If you dig through the FCC documents you can clearly tell they’re talking about the Verizon G2.

          • NexusPhan69

            Ah you meant did I read the Droid-Life article. I misread that. My bad. Yes I did but then the Verge updated their article to reiterate the Verizon part. I initially thought Droid-Life was behind the latest news – wrong. I’m thinking you are right. Disappointing. What a messed up FCC filing.

        • joejoe5709

          Hate to say it, but Steve B might be right.

  • Liderc

    God why couldn’t they get this on Verizon, I’d die for this one. Looks so good. There has to be a reason for the camera being so big, hopefully they’ve finally included a great camera.

    • Steve B

      Blame falls on both parties unfortunately. I prefer bash Verizon though.

  • ninjawarren

    Is anyone seeing a speaker grill on the back or sides? I can’t make one out, I wonder what they’re doing there.

    • Jeff

      It’s not the final design.

    • http://www.gorecording.com/ Nicholassss

      maybe using the phones backplate as the transducer like some sort of witchcraft.

  • Dusty

    What if LG is making a nexus for verizon but just calling it the LG Nexus G2 on Verizon!!! /s
    kinda wish it was true though…

  • Tony Byatt

    5, 7, 10…Those are nice numbers for the Nexus line…

    • joejoe5709

      I’m kind of hoping there will be a new Nexus 4 in addition to those. I think a smaller phone still has a place in Google’s stable. Will we see one in time for the holiday season? Not likely. We’d probably start seeing leaks by now.

  • Gabriel

    New features: No speaker.

    • joejoe5709

      It has a dedicated low power co-processor that controls a telekinetic sound driver. Take that, Apple! /s

  • http://www.bfolkers.com Brian Folkers

    What if this is actually a bastardized version of the G2 that Verizon is going to brand as a Droid! lol….

    • http://www.gorecording.com/ Nicholassss

      I think Moto is now exclusively the “droid” brand with verizon now.

  • Zain Kalwani

    Is it just me who is attracted by this phone?

    • Steve B

      The amount of semen all over this post would suggest otherwise.

      • ToddAwesome

        ah, so that’s what that smell is.

  • MK17

    I’m most excited about the Palm-like wireless charging. Best wireless charging system to date.

    • Steve B

      What?

  • Andrew Remmers

    Am I the only one who notices no speaker grills on this entire device?

    • Franklin Ramsey

      Induction speakers?!?!

      • Andrew Remmers

        Piezio-Electric is also another possiblity! Front facing speakers without having speakers!

        • Franklin Ramsey

          The thing I’m worried about is someone seeing this and thinking we are serious.

          • Andrew Remmers

            Who said I was kidding? Why couldn’t it be a possibility? Can anyone else point out speaker grills of any kind on the device?

          • Franklin Ramsey

            Well, I mean it is a remote possibility, but This is how rumors start! lol

      • http://www.gorecording.com/ Nicholassss

        its pretty easy to make a speaker out of the device itself.

        something like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pZr-3D2Mus

        but with plastic instead of a potato chip.

        • Franklin Ramsey

          Well, I realize that. I think they use Induction technology in Google glass, but I doubt they will use it in a phone at this time.

  • shooter50

    To all those who describe this or any phone as “sexy”. I worry about you.

    • Patrick Bateman

      gtfo

  • JohanV
    • trixnkix637

      You sir win all the monies for that gif. lol.

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    • NexusPhan69

      Uhhh, guys? You’re all about to actually do this dance.

      “there will be at least two different Nexus 5 models. The model leaked last week (called LG-D820) had wireless radios that could support AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile LTE. Today’s FCC filing shows a model known as LG-VS980, which is explained in the filing as being “identical” to the previously certified LG G2 for Verizon Wireless save for “some” hardware and software changes. The filing shows that this model has radios that could support Verizon’s LTE bands, namely 13 and 4, as well as the carrier’s 3G CDMA network.”

      http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/12/4723138/lg-nexus-5-photo-details-revealed-in-fcc-filing

      • ReturnOfTheMack

        Just saw that…I keep telling myself not to hold my breath but I literally started doing that dance after I read it.

        • NexusPhan69

          Get ‘em. what it is, what it does, what it is, what it isn’t.

          • RetutnOfTheMack

            I bought a G-Nex last year after the N4 didn’t land on big red so if this is true I will be ecstatic and I’m sure I’m not the only one. Still not holding my breath but once you go Nexus…

          • Kokomo

            Dat Nexus… Same here, Nexus or bust baby!

          • acras

            You’re excited for the G2 on Verizon? Read the story again , slowly . Not a Verizon Nexus.

          • Aaron Sibold

            Good luck brother man. There will never be a Nexus device on VZW again. The GNex was a prirme example of a carrier not knowing how to design/control a device outside of their locked curriculum. All hail the Moto X. That is currently what I gave up my unlimited plan for. If someone wants it they got 4 days. Contract ends December of ’13.

            On a sidenote… spellcheck is handy on Chrome when you are smashed x 23.

            P.S.S. This message took me ~30 minutes to comopose.

          • Aaron Sibold

            P.S.S.S. It’s the shark face gang stunna.

      • Franklin Ramsey

        I hate to break it to you but the LG-VS980 is the Verizon G2 that was certified. There was a Permissive change filed for it which means they changed the final specs of the device in some way and needed those parts re-certified. You can look through the Documents under the source link yourself if you don’t believe me.

        • NexusPhan69

          I’m not entirely convinced. Does that mean this FCC filing had pictures included for the completely wrong phone? I guess that’s possible. I always doubted that Verizon would ever get a Nexus again so I wouldn’t be surprised.

          • ReturnOfTheMack

            I see where he is coming from but the pictures from the FCC filing match the device from the KitKat video so well.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            Sadly, all the rest of the photos under the filing show a Verizon G2.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            Yes. If you look through the rest of the photos on the FCC filing including the pictures taken during testing it is clearly a G2 (has the buttons on the back and everything) and also the manual with the filing is for the Verizon G2. I’m not saying there isn’t a possibility for a Verizon Variant (which I hope comes to light), but this, sadly, isn’t it.

          • michael arazan

            Kind of sucks to punish the customer/ consumer for being on Verizon and they are android fans, sucks that compromise in today’s terminology makes it a Four Letter word

      • cheese

        except they’re wrong.

        theverge is claiming that the LG-VS980 is the Nexus 5 leaked photos from today. It’s not. It’s a mistake someone made that filed the LG-D820 photo onto the LG-VS980 FCC filing page. Seriously, does anyone do the research on their own?

        http://www.androidpolice.com/2

        The LG-VS980 is the Verizon LG G2

        The LG-D820 is the photos leaked from today and indeed is the next Nexus phone but will not support Verizon LTE band (13).

        Look at one of the test setup photos for the VS980, it looks like the G2, not the Nexus 5.

        http://i.imgur.com/Z3Ltcvh.png

        Also, look at the closeup of the leaked photos from today. It shows as LG-D820, not VS980.

        http://i.imgur.com/Ln9m7WO.jpg

        • NexusPhan69

          Hold up a second. If the VS980 is the Verizon LG G2, then what the balls is the LG D821 that supports Verizon bands?

  • RaptorOO7

    Way to go FCC, those folks must walk around with their fly open all day.

  • http://www.baldypal.com/ BaldyPal

    curiosity has the best of me. why would the “NEXUS” word not be on the back, even on a prototype? isn’t it more engraved like on nexus 7 and not just a sticker type like the verizon 4G LTE logo on back of G2?

    • http://www.baldypal.com/ BaldyPal

      i thought it should. even the Nexus 7 had a nexus word on the back in the FCC filing. zoom in but its there on the right hand picture, first page.

      https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1803983

    • http://www.gizmoninja.com/ Tabe

      Because this early prototype doesn’t have it? I understand that past Nexus devices have had “Nexus” on them in FCC images, but that doesn’t mean they have to.

  • ArrTooDeeToo

    Such an irony of sadness, to accidentally show the next Nexus as a Verizon device when it probably won’t ever be on Verizon. :(

    • John Davids
      • Shamu

        I can say confidently we both like eachothers profile pictures

        • John Davids

          Random, but accurate. :-)

          • Shamu

            I love finding musers on the internet! Loving Android is a plus!

      • http://www.gorecording.com/ Nicholassss

        Lold hard.

        • John Davids

          Virtually every conversation can be supplemented with a relevant Futurama quote. :-)

  • Shadowstare

    The 3000 mAh battery from the G2 would have been GREAT with any Nexus phone. Especially since the devices are so similar based on model number and specs.

    But I do love the idea of a new nexus device on a CDMA network, I just hope its Verizon.

  • JohanV

    I actually loved the glass back on the N4, hope this is not plastic.

  • ynksbsbll2

    VERIZON NEXUS 5 CONFIRMED

    • Tim242

      Ummmm NO.

      • Dan

        How about if I say “please” again?

      • Liderc

        So have you accepted the fact that you were wrong those 400 times you posted that the phone had square edges? lol

        • Tim242

          Maybe. : )

    • Franklin Ramsey

      I don’t know if you are trolling or if you just didn’t read the article?

      • ynksbsbll2

        No I read it, but ignorance is bliss for a Verizon user like myself.

        • Franklin Ramsey

          Oh Verizon. The carrier you love as much as you love to hate. Yeah, I’m sitting here wishing on Verizon too.

  • joseph barrientos

    just release the damn thing lol

  • bozzykid

    Can you tell what type of SIM slot it has?

  • Tobias Fünke, M.D. Analrapist

    Come to leather daddy!

  • Jeff

    I knew it would probably look like this (generic slab), but I’m still a bit disappointed it doesn’t look more like a Moto X (not that I really thought it would). I guess I just want the benefits of a Nexus with the design of the Moto X.

  • Here we go!

    Color me unimpressed. The design seems rather boring to me. Just like the new i*hone this looks just incremental when we were all hoping for more.

    • Skittlez

      i don’t think people really look forward to the next nexus for the design of the device, but the device actually looks good. we all know that this backside isn’t the finished product

  • EC8CH

    Did Mr. Blurrycam get a job at the FCC?

    • Franklin Ramsey

      I thought he has a job pretty much everywhere.

  • EC8CH

    “NOT FOR SALE”

    on Verizon :-(

    • Franklin Ramsey

      I wanted to down vote this because I don’t like thinking that way, but it is sadly probably true. Also, let’s face it, that was fairly funny. Take my up vote good sir.

      • cheese

        It’s not probably. It’s a fact. The Nexus 5 is NOT coming to Verizon Wireless.

        http://i.imgur.com/msJrBqz.png

        Letter from LG to FCC showing Verizon LTE band not supported (13)

        • James Friedman

          Your crushing dreams man….not cool! :(

          • cheese

            If you really want this N5, I would recommend switching to a different carrier. This is what I will be doing, switching to T-Mobile from Verizon.

          • Skittlez

            i probably will too, but i’m going to stay on verizon if 1. Google does announce the N5 on Verizon, or 2. G2 gets unlocked bootloader/root with an awesome AOSP ROM

        • Franklin Ramsey

          Well nothing is fact until it is official. It could be that they are doing another Gnex type situation where there is one version that is sold on the Play Store and one version that is sold by Verizon. I very much doubt it, but it isn’t a fact until it’s announced.

          • cheese

            Sorry, I know you want it to be true. FCC is as official as you get.

            If you can’t take FCC’s word for it, then I don’t know what will…

            Also, think about it. Why would Verizon want to release a pure Nexus phone on the Verizon network, when they just released the Moto X just a couple weeks ago? Doesn’t make sense! There will be no Nexus 5 on Verizon! PERIOD!

          • Franklin Ramsey

            I don’t know how the FCC releasing a Phone makes it official that a company won’t release another version of the phone which supports Verizon. I pointed out it has been done before with the Gnex. I’m not saying it will happen, I’m saying you can’t say for certain that it won’t until it is official. I fully expect Verizon won’t ever have a Nexus again as long as CDMA is in the picture, but that doesn’t make something official.

          • Skittlez

            unless you work for either Verizon or Google or LG, you don’t know this. yes, it’s unlikely, but the Gnex was a separate device from the GSM model. It is still possible, but like he said, we won’t know until announcement. No one knew the Gnex was coming to Verizon until last minute.

        • NexusPhan69

          And just like that. Your whole world is shattered.

          See update 2. Second Nexus 5 FCC filing today. For Verizon.

          http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/12/4723138/lg-nexus-5-photo-details-revealed-in-fcc-filing

  • Liderc

    That front with no logos ZOMG so sexy.

    • Steve B

      This. The only way it should be.

  • Steven Libretti

    doesnt look like there is a external memory slot either

    • Steve B

      Have you been living under a rock?

      • ToddAwesome

        be nice, he only has 6 comments, he’s new.

        • Steve B

          Sorry, reflex. I hold Steve’s to a higher standard.