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LG Nexus 5 Round-up: A Beautiful Render, Plus Everything We Know

LG Nexus 5 mockup

Of course, as I’m on a plane back from New York, the LG Nexus 5 floodgates open with fury thanks to an FCC filing that outed more details than I think Google would have liked them to. So now that I’m all caught up on everything, it’s time for a recap, since there seems to be some confusion, especially around whether or not this bad boy will work on Verizon. This is what we’re pretty sure we know thus far. 

First, a huge thanks to @epicrivas for the render at the top of the post. While that’s not official, we know that the device does look similar, thanks to a quickly pulled Google Kit Kat unveiling video. For now, this is about as clean as it gets in terms of a look at the new Nexus. While it may be another mega-black slab, it does look minimal and sexy. Mmhmm.

LG Nexus 5

Ok, so we first reported that the codename for the device was going to be “hammerhead” last week. That report is now confirmed to have been spot on, as the FCC filing revealed the name in a software build that also referenced the name Key Lime Pie. Key Lime Pie was likely an early build of Android 4.4 before the name change to Kit Kat, so don’t look into that much. If anything, it just proves that the move to Kit Kat was fairly recent and that KLP was in line to be the name for some time.

Sources of ours had previously indicated that this launch would be more of a new “Nexus 4″ than a Nexus 5. But with a 5″ display, that could obviously change.

We know that the model number is D820. For reference, the LG G2, which is said to be the base for this new Nexus, carries model number D802. Seems like a natural step in model number progression.

Specs:

  • Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 (M8974A)
  • 4.96″ display
  • 2300mAh battery
  • NFC
  • Wireless charging
  • 802.11a/b/g/n/ac WiFi
  • Bluetooth 4.0

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In terms of connectivity (the important stuff to Verizon customers), we are looking at a GSM/CDMA device that can also connect to a variety of LTE bands. Unfortunately, this does not look like a Verizon-compatible device, as much as we all hope that it will be, the chances are pretty slim. The FCC filing shows GSM and WCDMA, meaning it should work fine on both T-Mobile and AT&T in terms of 3G. Verizon, as you know, runs its 3G network on CDMA, which is also present here in bands 0, 1, and 10. Now, the tests show CDMA frequencies in the 800MHz and 1900MHz ranges, but those could be for Sprint. Verizon does run its CDMA network in those ranges, so yes, there is a bit of hope.

In terms of LTE, we’re looking at bands 2, 4, 5, 17, 25, 26, and 41. Notice anything missing? That would be band 13, the LTE frequency that Verizon currently runs its entire LTE network on. Now, you will notice a band 4 in there, which will eventually host Verizon’s AWS LTE spectrum, and should rollout later this year. Problem is, Verizon only plans to launch 5,000 sites with AWS connectivity by the end of the year, which is not exactly covering much of the country. So even if Verizon decides to allow the new Nexus access to its CDMA network, the phone wouldn’t even have full LTE coverage throughout the country. Can you really envision a situation where Verizon, who is as anal as it gets about experience on its network, is going to allow a phone to barely work on only a portion of its network?

I hate to squash dreams, but no band 13 is not a good sign. Remember, with CDMA, Verizon gets to decide who connects to their network – this could be a case where they said, “No thanks, and please don’t use our LTE either.”

“But what if it’s an LTE-only device?” you ask? Could be, but again, Verizon is only deploying 5,000 AWS sites by the end of this year. They will continue to rollout more next year of course, and will also include the AWS frequency in phones by the end of the year, I just don’t think this Nexus is making the cut. After all, it’s still a phone that needs to make calls, something it wouldn’t be able to do if it couldn’t also connect to Verizon’s CDMA network.

The phone will work just fine on Sprint (bands 25 and 26), T-Mobile (band 4), and AT&T (band 17) LTE networks.

Exciting stuff (if you aren’t a Verizon customer). We are hearing from sources that late October could be the big reveal.

Update:  The FCC screwed up and posted a handful of pictures of the device to an LG G2 filing. While the device pictured is clearly an early prototype, it gives us a clear shot of what we can expect in terms of styling for the next Nexus.

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  • Matthew DiGiacomo

    Does anybody know when the Google-themed KitKat bars will be in stores? I went to buy some today and they didn’t have any..I thought today was the day?

    • RhinoShock

      The android themed ones are special edition (500 of them were made). You can only buy the normal kit kat bars, with the nexus 7 sweepstakes, in stores.

      • Matthew DiGiacomo

        That’s what I’m talking about – the sweepstakes ones..

        • EC8CH

          but I want a golden ticket Naowwwwwwwww!

        • acras

          probably better to ask the stores near you when they get deliveries , unless someone here works for a distributor , and knows where you live…

  • Sequence of Sound…

    As a Moto X owner, I’m happy to hear the news (although it would have been nice to have the option on Verizon). :x Moto X on Verizon will be the closest thing to the NeXus 5 (notice how they both have an “X” in their names?). Google had a decent amount of influence on the Moto X, and Motorola added useful features. Although updates might be slow to come, they’ll at least update it for the two years that I’ll be keeping it. I wonder what kind of new features will come with Kit Kat, and if any of those features will be similar to Motorola’s added features. I hope that they quickly update the Moto X to Kit Kat.

  • Tim242

    A new Nexus 4, with a 5″ display? The Nexus 4 was named by gen number, not its almost 5″ display. It was the 4th Nexus. It was originally to be called the Optimus Nexus, but changed at the last minute. I do believe that they will name this one the Nexus 5, due to being the 5th Nexus. I think it is possible that they will keep the screen size at 5″ from here on out. That will allow the phone to allign with display size naming, and avoid numbering conflicts.

    • joseph barrientos

      i hope they stay with nexus 5, nexus is such a good word to pair with a number, putting another word like optimus just makes it sound bad

      • Taglogical

        What will they do when the “Nexus 7″ comes? ‘Nexus Seven’ maybe =P

    • a3uge

      So in two versions they’ll have a Nexus 7 tablet (screen size) and a Nexus 7 phone (generation number)? You don’t think they thought about this before hand? The Nexus 7 was released before the Nexus 4. I think it’s safe to assume a ‘Nexus 6′ will not get released, unless it’s a phablet.

      • Tim242

        You didn’t read all of what I said.

        • a3uge

          I guess it doesn’t really matter WHY they named it the Nexus 4 or Nexus 5 (if they do), but I would think because they released the Nexus 7 before the Nexus 4, they had screen size in mind with the Nexus 4. It’s not like they had a ‘Nexus 2′ and ‘Nexus 3′. Calling it a Nexus 5 for a 4.7 in screen would have been a little pretentious… I thought it would be pretty safe to assume the naming conventions have already started, otherwise, why start a brand new naming structure (Nexus 4) AFTER the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 were already released? Really doesn’t matter though because the generations numbers are matching up with screen size.

          • Tim242

            They may all be Nexus devices, but they are two differentccategories. Tablets are named by display size on a regular basis. No phone has ever been named by display size. I love how people think it’s silly to round up, but OK to sell themselves .short and round down. Phones are named with gen number or name, tablets are named most of the time by display size. Ex: Nexus 7, Nexus ,10 Galaxy Tab 7.0, Galaxy Tab 7.7, Galaxy Note 8.0, Galaxy Note 10.1, etc. The Galaxy brand is prettysolid. Does Samsung name the phone Galaxy Note by display size?

          • joejoe5709

            So? That’s Samsung. Not Google/Nexus.

    • joejoe5709

      You could be right, but I guess the kicker will be whether or not we will see a Nexus4 replacement AND a Nexus5. If that’s the case, the screen size more or less determines the name.

      My only problem is that the Nexus7 wasn’t the 7th Nexus nor was the Nexus10 the 10th. And we’ll end up with a naming scheme running into each other.

      I think the naming scheme will be similar to the automotive industry. For instance: You have the Mazda2, Mazda3, Mazda5, and Mazda6. Each model year and each generation does not bump up the number, it’s merely the 2013 Mazda6 or the 2012 Mazda6. Similarly we have the 2012 Nexus7 and the 2013 Nexus7. If Moto makes a Nexus4 replacement, we’ll have a 2012 Nexus4 by LG and a 2013 Nexus4 by Motorola.

      • Tim242

        Nexus phones are not in the same category as Nexus tablets. No phone has ever been named by display size. A good majority of tablets are named by display size. The Galaxy Note phone is named by gen number. The Galaxy Note tablets are named by display size ie Galaxy Note 8.0, Galaxy Note 10.1.

        • joejoe5709

          By the way there were Tab 2 and 3 in all sorts of sizes that kind of blend that theory all up but I see what you’re saying. It’s similar to when Mercedes would name their models after engine sizes. One look at the badge and you knew what was under the hood. One look at the device name and you know it’s all about.

          Well I’m not sure it’ll copy Samsung’s screen number scheme or if it will it follow a generational scheme. Each model number will be loosely based off its screen size more or less to show what class it’s in rather than exactly quoting a screen size. Then each year will bring a notation of which year and/or which OEM made it to help difrentiate but the model name itself will not change with each generation. My best evidence is the new Nexus7 and I still think there will be a Nexus4 replacement called the Nexus4 along with a Nexus5.

  • TheWenger

    The wife’s already on Sprint with the rest of our family plan while I jumped to VZW for the G-Nex. Guess it’s back to Sprint.

  • Drome

    i REALLY hope there is at least a 32gb option.

  • Taylor Abrahamson

    I’m so angry at VZW..

    We need a poll, to ask everyone who has said they are going to leave VZW, if they have actually left yet.

    -I said I would leave VZW and I did
    -I am planning on leaving VZW soon
    -I am staying with VZW
    -I never was on VZW

    • Tim242

      I will not be leaving Verizon, unless they stop carrying Android flagships, or try to take my unlimited.

      • Dan

        I will not be leaving Verizon until someone else puts decent service near my cabin (yes, 1st world problems, but that’s where I live)

        • Tim242

          I was shocked that I had Verizon LTE at the cabin we stayed at in the rural Ozarks. I wish I could live there haha

    • joejoe5709

      Answer: I am staying with VZW and I’ll take a day off of work to mourn the lack of a Nexus5. Lol.

      In reality, I have complete blind faith that Verizon won’t leave us out this time. It might not be the best Nexus and it might not be until 2014 but it’ll be something. If we use the Gnex as an example and how sad we So I’m waiting. Besides, it’s not worth leaving a carrier just for a phone. You guys sound like iSheep before Verizon carried the iPhone.

      When we do get official word on this year’s Nexus device(s) and let’s just assume we won’t get it, we will need a new poll:

      The Nexus isn’t coming to Verizon, so which phone are you going to choose instead?

    • bobfrea

      I am planning on leaving VZW soon. i signed up nearly two years ago because i liked the idea of LTE. VZW isn’t the only LTE deal in town now. GNex did very well most ways (especially with CM10.x and gWallet on it). T-Mobile has decent service where I need it. The trade-offs for less coverage will definitely be worth the savings. I plan to buy Nexus5 from Google to put on T-Mobile, so no more contract either!

  • Kyle Miller

    LG G2 vs. Nexus 5. Which one would you prefer?

    • Tim242

      S4, Note ,3

    • me

      I would prefer the LG G2 hardware as the Nexus 5, but Google is all about selling phones unlocked and off contract for $350. Unfortunately the G2 is too premium to offer for that price. The LG G2 is a better hardware device, (bigger battery, bigger screen, probably better camera, probably more storage)

      The G2 really looks nice, but it’s got that cheesy skin and won’t get the updates.

    • Dee

      the HTC one Max:)

  • Tyler James Edward Hills

    Nananana nananana hey hey hey goodbye vzw

    • Tim242

      Yeah yeah, that’s what you all say.

      • nvitone23

        hop off Verizon’s d*ck

        • Tim242

          Why would I? They provide me with unlimited pleasure :: )

  • mcdonsco

    Whats with the small batteries in all the phones? I was really hoping the N5 (would be on verizon /r) would have a decent, at least 3,000 mah battery…but no…

    I don’t know about you guys, but even when I’m using a phone with 3k+ it’s still dead by 7pm or so.

    • fauxshizzl

      Do you ever set the phone down? I have a DNA which only has around a 2000MaH battery running a 5″ 1080p screen and have never once drained that battery before I was going to bed and putting it on a charger.

      • mcdonsco

        I’m a business user, so it gets picked up and used about every 5 minutes or so throughout the day…My day’s start around 7-8am and don’t end until 8-9pm.

        I’m not so much on the phone as I am texting, emailing, and looking things up online (plus, pandora in the car). Very little camera/phone actually (usually under 1,000 minutes a month used).

        • fauxshizzl

          Damn dude. My condolences. I hate being on the phone and don’t think I could handle your job for that reason. Unless of course it paid very well..

          • mcdonsco

            Pays what I put into it…slack in I can make 6 figures, kicking ass and taking names i can make 7 figures…I’m a bit closer to the slacking end of things though :-)

          • fauxshizzl

            Yeah I recently turned down a very sizeable raise due to the fact I would lose my entire social life by taking it. To me quality of life at and outside of work is worth way more to me than money. I do well enough and don’t need to pile on the added stress at this point.

    • Dan Carter

      Well, this is a pretty small phone. There’s nothing on the market that is this size that has a bigger battery. Sounds like you need to carry a portable juice pack around.

    • LionStone

      I’d rather have the S800 than a 3000 mAh battery. I can manage a 2300 mAh no problem and the S800 gives even more battery efficiency and supports LTE-A Carrier aggregation.

      • mcdonsco

        With the new phones and my use I can’t tell the difference between one processor or another. I also switch phones so often the lte-a thing doesn’t matter as no phones out now can actually use it and by the time they can I’ll be well onto another phone by then.

  • zurginator

    Anyone else notice the N4 has the sticker which comes on it in the box on the back? You can see the grey rectangle over the LG logo.

  • Chris Bailey

    *IF* it comes to VZW – which is highly unlikely – I will light myself on fire for buying the Droid Maxx (even though I do really like it)…

    • socarwolverine

      Hopefully a flood of people like you will be looking to offload their Droid Maxx. I want one, but just have been holding off on paying full retail.

  • Hothfox

    I’m so ready to leave Verizon. My contract is up in March, and I fully intend on leaving for AT&T prepaid. Hopefully by March the Nexus will be available, as the launch day out of stock issues will be ironed out by then.

  • Izem

    I couldn’t agree more. I’ve been with VZW since 2005 and I’m getting tired of it. They’re becoming too greedy and what they’re doing in regard to bootloaders (especially with the HTC One when no other carrier blocks it) it’s just becoming too much. I have a VZW HTC One that is bootloader unlocked because I bought it on launch day but if the bootloader wasn’t able to be unlocked I wouldn’t have bought it. It had over 24 god damn bloat apps!

    I’ve worked with AT&T for 5 years and I’ve seen the network in my area drastically improve over those years. Hell where I work VZW with full bars of LTE is usually less than 2Mbps down AND up whereas I get usually 17Mbps up 13Mbps down with AT&T LTE.

    My biggest hesitation has been with losing my unlimited data. But if VZW doesn’t get the next Nexus device I’m going to buy it and switch to AT&T. I’m done with them.

    • Indianajonze

      this exactly. i would hate to lose my unlimited data, but enough is enough. new nexus to replace my 2 yr old gnex > unlimited data IMO

      • James Briano

        Same situation here. I was ready to leave VZW a few years back, then the Galaxy Nexus was announced. I waited (and waited). The release and subsequent treatment was flawed, but not terrible.

        Now, I’m done with them. Unlimited data was fun while it lasted, but VZW doesn’t offer ANY compelling hardware.

  • http://friv-2.yepi-yepi.com/ Friv2games

    AT&T for my new phone…

  • jbdan

    The reasons for leaving the Big Red earlier this year just keep on adding up…

  • geedee82

    I can’t wait to leave Verizon for this!

  • Jeff Tycz

    why do you guys keep saying that the move to kitkat was recent. It has been stated that google was talking with nestle about using the name back in november and they used key lime pie internally to keep it a secret. so of course you will see builds released with that name when even the developers didnt know it would be that and its officially announced just less than a week ago

    source

    http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/3/4691040/android-kitkat-the-story-behind-a-delicious-partnership

    • bozzykid

      The marketing team did the KitKat deal. Everyone who actually works on Android used KLP and probably still do. As far as I’m concerned it will still be KLP but Google will publicly call it KitKat.

  • Menger40

    I can’t get excited about this until it gets reviewed and I see battery life reports. I won’t buy a phone with a sealed battery unless it can get me through more than 24 hours with light use, and I know that’s a pretty tall order.

    • LionStone

      Should be no problem… this shot is with stock DNA, 2020 mah, S4 Pro, 5″ 1080p, light usage. The N5 reports having a 2300 mAh, which has even better power efficiency and longevity than the S600 and even more than the S4Pro.

      • Menger40

        This gives me hope, thank you LionStone!

        • LionStone

          Yep, and for reference I have LTE ‘on’ the whole time, Sync ‘on’ the whole time, regularly text and mms, regularly stream Pandora, 2 email accts, Twitter, G+, G Now enabled, G+ Upload ‘on’, 8-10 widgets running on 5 screens, Mobile Hotspot to Nexus 7 whenever…and running Nova Prime Launcher. You can see my average and that’s usually with 2-3 hrs screen ‘on’, 30-40 minutes of calls and Bluetooth for a few hours, like this…a more typical day:

  • calum wilper

    Verizon only version? Although I doubt google will fall for that again

    • jaybar

      ha, good one

      • calum wilper

        haha i know right?

    • James Briano

      You crack me up.

  • http://androidandme.com/ Taylor Wimberly

    Late October reveal? Might match the rumored November 9th launch date.

  • Global Equity Fund

    What the hell is a verizon?

  • Javier Jackson

    I thought the whole deal with the Galaxy Nexus was that it was the CDMA that was holding it back. Something about how the radio drivers were proprietary to Qualcomm and that is why the Nexus 4 didn’t have CDMA (and therefore wasn’t compatible with Sprint and Verizon). I realize the CDMA carriers could always block an “unlocked” phone.

    Now that this one has CDMA, what’s the deal?

    • d-rock

      You can release a device with CDMA radios, but instead of a SIM card, there’s a number on a CDMA that is basically your SIM Card #. You have to submit that number to your CDMA provider. These codes are provisioned by the carriers though and if that number isn’t previously provisioned, it can’t even be activated on the CDMA network.

      Regardless to work with CDMA, there will have to be devices that are pre designated for those networks.

      More than likely Verizon chose not to allow this option. They do allow this option with Enterprise level devices though (like the Motorola Symbol WM Devices). They don’t have Verizon branding, but you can only activate it on Verizon.

      • d-rock

        Sprint likely showed interest and they will be provisioning some of the devices specifically for Sprint.

      • Tim242

        You are slightly incorrect. Verizon’s LTE phones provision by the SIM and IMEI, not the CDMA HEX.

        • d-rock

          Can you get CDMA service though if your device is compatible? Or do you still have to get the CDMA side activated? I’m not sure as I haven’t seen VZ in action on LTE activation.

          • Tim242

            It would have to have Verizon radios. It would be possible, but not easily. But, with only one band of their LTE, it would be mostly fruitless. As for current Verizon LTE devices, you just swap SIM’s and you’re done, just like GSM. Verizon combined the CDMA with LTE on the SIM. In most of the world, CDMA uses SIM cards anyway.

  • Kyle Wilkins

    I’m not shocked the Nexus 5 isn’t on VZW but the let down is still there. My Galaxy Nexus is running okay. I just wish there was another, more up to date spec wise, phone that is fully unlockable. On screen nav keys have become one of my standards as well. :(

    • Tim242

      S4. AOKP, DONE.

      • Jonathan Isenberg

        S4 = No on-screen nav.

        All Samsung phones are marred by that physical home button, in my opinion.

        • Tim242

          Notice I put AOKP on there. You can enable on screen nab in the settings. I used to hate the home button, but now I love it. With on screen buttons., you don’t have to use the home button. Plus, the bezel is the smallest around

          • Skittlez

            its just dumb to have on screen and physical buttons. we just want them natively

  • Steve B

    Renders look pretty good overall. The only thing that doesn’t look right is the rear speakers. Everything is pointing to this phone having front facing speakers like the HTC One.

    • acras

      Where are you getting that info ? I haven’t seen anything about front facing speakers. Would definitely be a bonus in my book, but at this point I think they are a dream , like a SD slot , 32Gb and Verizon compatibility

      • Steve B

        Because from the FCC filing, there are no speaker grills on the back of the device. That leaves either the bottom (doubtful) or the front (more likely).

        • acras

          inconclusive. Anything below where they show the coils could be hiding speaker placement, you can’t tell from the FCC pics if there will be a speaker there or not. What is the rectangle just below the coil? Nothing , or the location for the speaker? Again , not saying you are wrong , but there’s nothing solid yet that points to speaker placement. Might be at the bottom , isn’t that where the G2 speaker is?

          • Steve B

            Actually yes, if you look at the G2 unboxing Kellen just put up, the speakers are on the bottom. That’s where my money is. They’re definitely not on the back, you’d be able to see white showing through where the speaker grill would be. The rectangle you mention is nothing.

          • acras

            Unless that’s a cover like the one covering the coils for nfc and charging. So whats your final verdict ? All signs pointing to front facing , or money on the bottom facing speakers? My money says all signs point to us not knowing **** about speaker placement yet.

          • Steve B

            Why would there be a cover over the speaker grill on the back plate? That doesn’t make any sense.

          • acras

            Why doesn’t it make sense? If it’s a plastic cover behind the speaker to separate it from the other components perhaps?That rectangle could also be speaker cloth covering the grille opening. The speaker could play through the bottom . Or the back plate that was sent to the FCC could have not had the speaker grille drilled or cut out yet since there was no need for it when sending the device for certification , because the FCC doesn’t care about speakers. Again , just throwing out suppositions out , not saying signs are pointing any way until there are pics that mean something

          • Steve B

            Nope sorry. Not drinking your koolaid.

          • acras

            LOL , obviously. You are guzzling your own . Let me know how those front facing bottom firing speakers work out for you . Keep in mind , you are CERTAIN , which following your statements means there will be at least 4 speakers ( front facing speakers and bottom facing speakers , plural for each comment you made) . I am looking forward to the quadraphonic sound this phone will be pumping out. I have stated clearly that I am speculating on what MAY be the speaker placement , with some evidence to back up my speculation. I have also said your wild-ass guesses might be right too , they just aren’t facts .

          • Steve B

            Go here: http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/imagecache/w680h550/postimages/444537/nexus5fcc.png

            Zoom in and honestly tell me you think there’s even a 1% chance there’s a speaker on the back. No, didn’t think so.

          • acras

            Easy , there’s an absolute 100% CHANCE that the speaker is on the back . Your first post said ” everything points to front facing speakers” , your next post said that bottom facing speakers were “doubtful” . You followed that up with saying your money was on bottom facing . You are looking at pictures of the inside of a possibly unfinished rear cover and stating that there is no chance for a rear facing speaker , but until there are more pictures , the CHANCE of the speaker being mounted to a hamster tied to the phone by a pretty pink ribbon is 100%. LIKELIHOOD of the hamster mounted speaker is very low , because they would have a bunch of dead hamster speakers being delivered due to Kit Kat overdoses

          • acras

            go here http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-5-rumors-and-renders and focus on the part that says ” What we KNOW about the Nexus 5″

          • acras

            This is nothing? Notice the molded edges around the rectangle compared to the square just below it , there’s a difference. COULD be for speaker placement , COULD be for something else, COULD be for nothing but the difference at the edges compared to the other tooling leaves possibilities. Looking at this closer though , I am leaning away from bottom firing speakers , I don’t see reliefs at the bottom to accommodate them.

          • acras

            You on the design team for this device ? tell me what this is EXACTLY . Don’t say nothing like you did before , because every aspect of the design is for something , even if its strengthening ridges which this is not by the way. It may not be for a speaker , but since you have been certain twice as to the position of the speakers , in different locations , tell us what it is for

          • Steve B

            I’m done wasting my time on you spamming my inbox. You’ll know in a few days/weeks when a full view leaks.

          • acras

            LOL , difference is , I can’t be wrong because I said any speaker placement is possible , because theres not enough evidence yet to tell. YOU are almost guaranteed to be wrong because it will most likely not have 4 or more speakers. See you when more FACTS come out on the phone. And learn what spam is.

          • joejoe5709

            This. They will definitely be on the bottom. Which in my book is better than the rear.

  • nobody72

    snapdragon 800 and small sealed battery ?

  • EC8CH

    VERIZON NEXUS RAGE

    GRAHAWWWWWWWWWWW!

  • http://thebeeobee.com/ thebeeobee

    Get us a price, Kellex! We need a price!

  • jnt

    Honestly after trying out the new Moto devices I’m not sure if I care as much about the Nexus 5. Just me obviously… but #1 I would hope the next Nexus device is as fluid as the X/Maxx/etc. (will depend largely on the GPU), and #2, since it already feels like a Nexus device, I would miss things like Active Notifications and Voice Controls, and the great camera UI (even if pictures are a mixed bag).

    • Kyle Wilkins

      What phone from the Motorola line up did you like most? I was considering the Maxx. Using a Galaxy Nexus I have grown fond of the on screen keys and I know the Maxx doesn’t have them, so how the Maxx feel with the hard-soft keys?

      • jnt

        Well for one, they don’t take up any screen space. I’m used to the GS4, though, so I’m used to NOT having on-screen keys. So the Maxx is 5″ all the time. The X will be roughly (I think?) 4.3″ when the on-screen keys are there.

        I haven’t had my hands on an X yet. But unless the form factor just really wows me, I’m not sure if I can give up the battery life and larger storage on the Maxx. Plus I’m looking at full retail… so that’s what, only $50 more right now?

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          If you factor in the 6 months of GPMAA, its pretty much the same price.

          That said, I’m having a really rough time of it between the X and Maxx. Both are locked and unlikely to be unlocked (still no word on root for any Moto X unfortunately), updates should be roughly the same, so its smaller device vs. bigger battery. I need to get them side-by-side….

          • jnt

            Ditto… if the X can get me through a day with ease, I’ll probably prefer that. I don’t *have* to have 32gb of storage, and I’m sure I’ll prefer the size of the X. But I’ve been seeing mixed reviews on the X’s battery life, especially on Verizon (go figure). I’m not so worried about it being locked any more. If I can get root, great, but for me it’s not the end of the world to not have that.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            I’m pretty sure I’ll get through a day no problem, but I’d much prefer to get root for tethering purposes. And my wife its almost a necessity.

          • jnt

            Ah, yeah… I lost unlimited a long time ago, so I can tether whenever/wherever I want… for a few gigs… :/

          • David Verba

            I can confirm the X’s battery. 5:30pm-11pm with about 20% battery left (battery saver turned OFF) 2.5 Hours of Streaming Google Music, moderate using all day. With every damn feature available turned on. I will say this about the radios: THEY ARE AMAZING.

            In my house I get 1 bar of 3g on my GNex (on a good day)
            the Moto X gets 2 bars of 4g in the house.

            The Moto X really is a great device – love the feel, LOVE the active notifcations. It’s really nice being back on a motorola device after being away for so long.

  • Buur

    Was holding out hope that this would end up on Verizon as I am itching for a new phone. Going to have to take a 2nd look at the X now as this is not promising.

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      I’m trying really hard to hold out for a dev edition X on Verizon, but it’s becoming increasingly difficult especially without any new info for the past month in that regard.

      • breadable

        But it’s supposed to be released within days! Join me in just refreshing the moto page every few minutes, it’s gotta be anytime now!

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Lol. I’ll give them “days” on the carrier announcements so far, but as of today we’re at “weeks”. They’d better throw out some more info with the quickness.

  • Jeremy Martin

    No VZW makes me wonder if another device will be popping up soon. Did the Galaxy Nexus cruise through the FCC as one device or different devices?

    • jnt

      It was different I think? But that was a LONG time ago… :)

    • Menger40

      The unlocked and Verizon Galaxy Nexus are physically different inside and out, so I’m sure they had to go through as two different devices.

      • Jeremy Martin

        when you say “unlocked and Verizon Galaxy Nexus” i get what you are saying but I just want to clear it up a bit…both phones are unlocked. The only real difference that made it “locked down” was that on the CDMA version Sprint/VZW had to approve the updates whereas the GSM version of the phones got updates directly from Google. But they were different inside which is why I am hoping to find a new Nexus phone pop up with VZW support.

        • Menger40

          Yep, I was just differentiating between the GSM one sold on Google Play and the one Verizon sold through their stores. I could have said it better.

    • Adam Truelove

      Verizon will not be getting another Nexus device.

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        I’m guessing they will when CDMA is no longer necessary since Verizon can’t block any device from LTE. I’m not expecting any amazing epiphany from VoLTE, but at least there’s a chance at that point.

  • Murrzeak

    I think in no way it’s gonna have 800 on board. No with that price tag..

    • Steve B

      It’s confirmed.

  • Brady Owens

    Looking for opinions here. I think most VZW customers are pretty pissed right now and not just because of this. Here’s my question: Has VZW gotten so bad that someone with Unlimited data should consider jumping ship? I love my service, but Verizon has either been late, EXTREMELY late, or will not carry the hottest phone at that particular time. Is anyone with unlimited data considering a move to ATT or elsewhere or is that crazy talk?

    • Josh Carroll

      Not to mention speeds here are crap even with full bars. I used to regularly get 20+ Mbps. Now I’m lucky if I get over 8 Mbps.

      • michael bourgoin

        same with me in LI/NYC area – i dropped them for tmobile last year with the nexus 4 and i’ve been really happy. No they dont provide 100% like for like coverage, and VZW does have them beat, but its not by much and now im paying 30$ a month. Cant beat that

      • Andrew

        I was lucky to get over 5 mbps in Cleveland. Switched from unlimited data to AT&T this week. With work discount I get 5 gb + tether for the same price on an individual plan.

        I was nervous to leave vzw after 10 years as a customer, plus to lose unlimited data, but the lack of phone choice as well as subpar speeds was too much. I’m getting 25 down and 14 up in the same place my vzw got me 3 down and 1 up yesterday.

      • BobButtons

        I get 48/48 in southeastern WI.

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      If I lose unlimited I’m gone from Verizon. But, until then, I’m sticking with them, as I’ve never had an issue.

      I have however considered dropping VZW for T-Mobile. It has flexible pricing and good coverage where I spend 90% of my time. AT&T’s new GoPhone plans are really enticing too, assuming I could stay under the cap.

      • Brady Owens

        Totally understand that. I haven’t either. Still its frustrating not having the devices other carriers have available in a timely manner or at all for that matter.

    • kfath1978

      Verizon considers a “power user” the minority….They dont care about pleasing us or care if we leave. Do we even want the next Nexus on Verizon to begin with??? My contract is up now and I am just waiting to jump ship…end of story.

      • JetRanger

        Well, they better watch out. Because this “Power User” here on Long Island they don’t care about, just took 3 other “casual users” with him to T-Mobile. Oh, and 4 other “Casual Users” that work in my office are tired of bending over for VZW too,

    • EDNYLaw

      Though I have not jumped from VZW, I’m strongly considering it when all the contracts are up. Currently, I have 2 lines both unlimited data, 700 shared minutes, 500 out of network texts and unlimited in network texts and 250 texts. That runs about $160/month (and that’s with a 19% discount). My fiance pays about $60/month for AT&T with unlimited data, maybe like 1000 minutes per months and no texts. So, in total we spend ~$220/month on phones.

      I looked at T-Mobile, to get 1 unlimited line (me), a 2.5 GB line (fiance) and a 500 MB line (mom) with unlimited talk and text it would cost $120/month. Now, that’s not exactly apples to apples, but even if we were to get unlimited on all lines it’d be $160/month. A savings of $60 to $100 per month depending on the plan. The biggest factor will be service. Every where I’ve checked (using websites) T-Mobile’s service seems to be good. However, wherever my fiance gets residency (don’t find out until March 21st) will determine whether we switch or not. If T-Mobile has good service, it’s good bye VZW. I love Nexus phones, I have the GNex, but it’s getting old and I’m tired of paying huge sums for something that might be just as good for substantially less.

      I’ve also been with VZW for about 15 years. I can honestly say, their service where I lived in Long Island is atrocious (Patchogue), in Boston it’s decent, especially when up high, upstate NY (Rochester) it’s good and in NYC it’s usually terrible at street level.

      • randoodle78

        This is what I needed to hear. Thanks. I’m seriously considering leaving VZW when the new Nexus comes out.

      • Prox

        I left VZW for T-Mobile, never going back to VZW.

        • EDNYLaw

          That’s pretty much what I wanted to hear. I’m sick of VZW and their consistent screwing of users like DL fans. It’s a little nerve racking to drop something and know you’re losing their “network” and unlimited data, but I really feel like the “network” is marketing. At my house in Long Island, I get 1 bar of service and that’s 3G service, in Long Island, not exactly the boonies. In NYC I consistently get terrible service. In Boston, it’s been pretty good. But if T-Mobile equals that, I’ll be ecstatic to switch.

          Plus, the more I hear about the N5, the more it sounds like the absolute perfect replacement for the GNex. With the discount of the N4 now, I can pick up 2 for my finance and mom and get me a new N5 and still pay less than getting 1 phone on VZW at full retail to keep my unlimited data.

        • BobButtons

          I’d be all for doing that except their coverage is pitiful at best in Wisconsin (where I live). If you look at their map and put the marker halfway zoomed in on the meter, you’ll see 90% of the state is categorized as 2G or Service Partner. It’s horrible.

          • Dan Letsch

            Same thing here in IA. I really wish I could switch.

      • Chip

        I just left Verizon for T-mobile. I just couldn’t handle paying so much money and not be able to do what I want with my phone. Regardless I’m happy I switched.

        • EDNYLaw

          That’s pretty much what I wanted to hear. I’m liking the idea of picking up 2 N4s for $400 and an N5 for, presumably $350 (hopefully) and spending $750 on 3 phones as opposed to spending $650-$750 to one off contract phone on VZW. Sounds like a deal to me.

        • BobButtons

          Convince them to give half a rat’s ass about covering WI with anything other than 2G or “Service Partner” and I’ll join ya in a heartbeat.

      • JetRanger

        I live in Lake Grove and left VZW two months ago for T-Mobile. No issue whatsoever on the Island. It works for me great .. Lots of 4G LTE popping up everywhere … The service is much faster than the random LTE we get out in Suffolk with VZW. Even T-Mobile’s HSPA+ “4G” is way faster … I even get good 4G down on the Outer Beach at Smith Point when my friend is stuck on VZW 3G with his GS3 (sometimes, he will sniff one bar of LTE for a while down on the beach, but not consistently). I’m loving saving almost $1K a year …. Go T-Mobile!

    • PhoenixPath

      Considered and done, though the service from VZW in my area has actually turned to crap in my area over the last two years.

      The G-Nex debacle nearly pushed me over the edge itself though, and the HTC One not ebing available at launch pretty much sealed the deal.

      I had 5 lines with VZW. I have moved 2 over to TMo (which actually has better service in my area, go figure), and the rest are moving over as the contract dates come up.

      • JetRanger

        Good to hear! You hit the nail right on the head … T-Mobile is good for where YOU will be 90% of the time … Thats the key if TMo has good service where you spend most of your life, tell VZW to take a hike and enjoy CHOICES in life for a change!

        • PhoenixPath

          Couldn’t have been easier. Wish I’d done it sooner.

          Had my G-Nex…hated it. Had a line come out of contract with VZW.

          Kept it and paid $99 for an HTC One on T-Mobile. Tried it for two weeks…loved it. Dropped the VZW line and haven’t looked back.

          Another line dropped a month ago. Three left and we’re done with ‘em.

  • ninjawarren

    I think I see a removable backplate. Notice the lack of a IMEI sticker on his phone compared to the N4? Could be because it’s an unreleased device though.

    • anezarati

      i dont know exactly what an IMEI sticker is, but under the apparent LG logo there is some writing.

      • ninjawarren

        Look at the N4, there’s a sticker on the back with the IMEI and serial numbers on it. The HTC One has stickers like that too, since you can’t get behind the battery, which is where they usually put that information.

        • michael bourgoin

          yeah i know what you’re talking about, but why would i keep that sticker on my phone? I pulled it off the first day i got it and put it in the box. – just bc the blonde decided to not take hers off, doesnt mean the dude has to be so stupid

    • michael bourgoin

      that is a render – not an actual picture of the phone.

      If you look in the leaked shot you can see it under the LG logo

      • ninjawarren

        I was talking about the actual picture, not that render. The lettering you can see is the typical FCC badge stuff, I don’t see anything big enough to fit the IMEI. Maybe they screen printed it really small along with the FCC information.

        • michael bourgoin

          i dont know, but when i look at the back of my nexus 4 and i compare it to the photo, it looks similar to me.

    • Menger40

      I wish, but from the FCC pictures it looks sealed. The NFC and cell antennas look like they’re right beneath the rear shell, so I think the battery would have to be sealed up behind them. I sincerely hope I’m wrong and it’s removable, though!

      • ninjawarren

        I know I’m in the minority in this, but I’m actually hoping it’s sealed. You get better build quality when it’s not designed to be taken apart.

        • Menger40

          I hear ya. If I didn’t always slap a case on I might feel the same way.

    • acras

      The pics from the FCC filings on one of the sites stated non removable , and it would have to be non removable with the NFC coil and wireless charging coil mounted on the back plate otherwise you would have to unplug them somehow when you take the back off, then plug them back in

  • aaron nyquist

    I like that in the picture you can see the Galaxy Nexus, the Nexus 4, and the new Nexus. Though Google pulled the video, I would guess that they new the FCC info was coming and staged this to hype it up. Either way I am excited to see it at launch.

  • Big_EZ

    That looks and sounds like it’s going to be a nice phone. Only downsides is the small battery, no microSD slot, and it’s not coming to Verizon.

    • Elliot Kotis

      Moto X has small battery, look at it!

      • Big_EZ

        Yes, but it also has a smaller 720p screen and X8 that helps with battery drain and it only has ok battery life according to reviews. This has a larger screen, 1080p, and no X8 and the battery is only .045% bigger than the X.

        • LionStone

          But the N5 will have a Snapdragon 800!

  • Mauricio Sanchez

    Oh my God, this phone is beautiful. I need it.

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      *this artistic rendering is beautiful.

      The image at the top is nothing but a guess, based on the image from the video. Its probably reasonably close, but I wouldn’t start swooning over it.

    • zurginator

      This is why the human mind baffles me.

      You find it beautiful, I find it hideous. Aren’t opinions strange?

      • Weber

        What turns you off about it?

        • zurginator

          The dual orientation of logos (LG is portrait, Nexus is landscape), and the awkwardly huge camera cutout.

          That’s pretty much all you can see with the blur of the original photo though, anything else is speculation and I won’t comment on it yet.

  • StuckOnVerizonForever

    That battery bothers me. 1080p and that…uh oh. The HTC One isn’t that great on battery.

  • Rammstein

    I’m on Verizon but I just may buy the device for the hell of it.

    • socarwolverine

      Might as well get a T-Mo sim card and see how the service suits you in your area. You may just decide to leave VZW altogether.

      • Rammstein

        I already have one from my time with the Nexus 4. Coverage in the city is excellent. HSPA+ speeds would almost always be above 15Mbps even in the peak hours. However, I regularly go out to rural areas and thats where the Tmo disappoint occurs and why I’m with VZW.

        • socarwolverine

          Same situation I’m in, Tmo out at my workplace is nonexsistent data-wise.

  • Prox

    left VZW over a year ago, after using them for 12 years. Best move I ever made.

    • Steve B

      I’m at 13 years. I’ll be leaving in December when my contract is up. I CANNOT wait for the new Nexus device.

      • Philip A. Kaiser

        Ditto

  • Droidzilla

    I would be all over this phone if I didn’t have the Nexus 4. Nexus phones really do cure the whole “new phone fever.” If I had a GNex, though, this would definitely be my next phone. I know it’s not released yet, but Google has yet to drop the ball on phones (Nexus 1 was awesome for its time, Nexus S was awesome for its time, Galaxy Nexus was awesome for its time, and the Nexus 4 was a game changer for a lot of us). I’m going to guess that some of the cool sensor tweaks in the Moto X find their way into the Nexus 5, too; we’ll see.

    • zurginator

      I can definitely agree with that – the only reason I see myself buying a new phone at this point is if the headphone jack returns to the bottom.

  • Jeff C

    but but but but but :(

  • KenBarnum

    Bye bye VZW

  • Andrew

    I used to hate reading these, but since I activated my new AT&T service yesterday I’m much happier.

    Also, my LTE is 10x faster for me on AT&T than it was on Verizon for the last 8 months on the GNex.

    • Steve B

      Verizon used to be fast, they’re not anymore. I can barely pull down 8mbps, when I used to be in the 20mbps range about a year ago.

      • Andrew

        100% agree. I was lucky to get 5 down the last year or so. When they first rolled out LTE I always was over 30. It seriously went downhill when the iPhone got LTE.

        • picaso86

          When I had my TBolt used to get AMAZING speeds, but after the iPhone 5 came to the network my Razr seems to be running in 3G speeds. Horrible! My contract is up in December and I am gone!

          • bobfrea

            I’ve generally had decent speeds over the last 21 months on my gnex, but it had degraded. it was painful to visit DFW area getting 40mb/s and then return home where i get < 5. that can't just be congestion–they didn't allow for such speeds everywhere. :(

    • Ryan

      Wow, this comment caused me to check my speeds on my Verizon GNex with 4G full signal.. 1.6 Down, 2.2 Up… What a joke!

      • socarwolverine

        Network congestion, it’s a b!tch.

    • Mitchman

      Just wait until AT&T completes their LTE rollout, network congestion will hit it too – enjoy it while you can.

  • Guest

    Im hoping its not as wide as the nexus 4

    • Elliot Kotis

      5″ screens are longer.

  • Don Crist

    Se ya later Verizon.

  • sc0rch3d

    i think my Moto X Decision just got put on hold

  • jnt

    Are 5,000 sites what they’re planning on launching total for AWS? Or just the beginning? If the former, I’ll stop thinking about AWS support as a factor in my next phone(s)…

    • Justin W

      That’s just the beginning. The band 13 is your typical LTE, while AWS is the next step in their plan to increasing their LTE bandwith (and it’s going to help with VoLTE’s rollout late next year as well).

  • Justin

    perfect excuse to leave VZW at the end of the year.

    • Josh Carroll

      Yup, same boat here. Contract ends in early Jan. AT&T has great LTE coverage at my work and home.

      • Justin

        mines up in feb. i use 10gb of data a month, i will not pay 100+ for data. unfortunately AT&T sucks where i live and work so i have to go t-mobile. but never the less this was one of the final nails in their coffin for me.

    • Eric Peterson

      I’m leaving on the 29th of December :-)

      • Justin

        buddy! yeah, its going to be different. no more group of us VZW kids. we are all growing up. *tear

      • breadable

        The next poll DL does should be “When are you leaving Verizon?”

        I have to wait until next July to be contract free

        • StuySix

          Unlimited contract ends next Sunday (9/15). Debating between getting the Maxx or G2 at full price – and possibly selling/switching to Tmoblie when they get Motomaker for a 32Gb X.

      • Steve B

        December 15th for me. 2 year anniversary of the Gnex. New Nexus, new carrier, can’t wait.

        • Ken Bosse

          I have been free to go for over a year. Just waiting on the final specs to see if I’m getting the G2 or this on ATT or Sprint.

          • http://j.mp/scottbeamer Scott Beamer

            For God’s sake, don’t go with Sprint. Their network sucks.

          • Ken Bosse

            Yea they would be last resort. Verizon and ATT are the best in my area, but sprint would be cheapest for me, plus unlimted data.

        • sk102704

          Septermber 9th for me but I’m wating until this comes out.

        • Raj Bhatt

          I bought my GNex on day one too, but I get to leave for T-Mo a little earlier because I made the monumental mistake of buying a Droid Bionic. Had to buy the Gnex at full retail.

          Sept 8th, my contract with VZW is over!

        • Rodeojones000

          Ha! That’s exactly my end date as well. I’m willing to bet there’s lots of us.

          • Steve B

            There will be a mass exodus of Gnex owners fed up with Verizon’s crap, seeking new Nexus hardware and freedom from carrier tyranny.

        • Eric Peterson

          Same here. Wifey is already on T-Mobile.

      • Matthew Morrison

        My Birthday!! : )

  • Jeff Helget

    Holy huge volume rocker, Batman!

    • palomosan

      That’s just a mini Nexus 7 2013.

  • Josh Carroll

    No VZW means I’ll be a new AT&T customer soon. Screw you Verizon.

    • BloodiedWraith

      I couldn’t agree more. I’ve been with VZW since 2005 and I’m getting tired of it. They’re becoming too greedy and what they’re doing in regard to bootloaders (especially with the HTC One when no other carrier blocks it) it’s just becoming too much. I have a VZW HTC One that is bootloader unlocked because I bought it on launch day but if the bootloader wasn’t able to be unlocked I wouldn’t have bought it. It had over 24 god damn bloat apps!

      I’ve worked with AT&T for 5 years and I’ve seen the network in my area drastically improve over those years. Hell where I work VZW with full bars of LTE is usually less than 2Mbps down AND up whereas I get usually 17Mbps up 13Mbps down with AT&T LTE.

      My biggest hesitation has been with losing my unlimited data. But if VZW doesn’t get the next Nexus device I’m going to buy it and switch to AT&T. I’m done with them.

      • Josh Carroll

        Yeah grandfathered unlimited data is going to hurt to lose. I kind of wish Verizon would finish bending their customers over fully and eliminate grandfathered unlimited data (we all know they will sooner or later) so it won’t hurt so bad to leave.

        • geedee82

          That would certainly make it A LOT easier. But at this point I’m prepared to do it no matter what.

        • DanSan

          at this point its like pulling off a bandaide, just do it already we all know its coming.

          Im still holding onto my unlimited, jumped on the GS4 preorder back in april. good thing i have a dumb phone on my line i can use to do my upgrades but they will close that loop hole soon or later.

          • Jonathan Isenberg

            I think they might have already closed that loop. My brother just got his GS4 by using my grandmothers dumb phone line.

            They forced her to upgrade to a $30/month data plan, let her purchase the phone, then transferred it to him. When they transferred it to him, they forced him to sign a two year contract because he was receiving a new phone on the line, and they made her keep her data plan, even though they she switched back to her dumb phone.

            I’m pretty sure that what I said above was accurate in his situation, but it could be different. The changes may already be in progress…

          • socarwolverine

            I haven’t done it myself, but I’ve read that it only works if you activate it on the dumbphone line before you transfer it to the unlimited line. If you don’t then you’ll lose your unlimited. Also, best to do these things in a corporate store, unless you did, then sorry.

          • Jonathan Isenberg

            I hope all of you are right because I want to hop off my VZW GS3 and onto a Moto X.

            Then again, my brother could have screwed it up.

            I guess we shall see.

            On a side note, do you ever think that VZW will stock a 32GB Moto X?

          • socarwolverine

            The 32GB Moto X is exclusive to the MotoMaker site. That site is supposed to be available to VZW in a month or so. When/if it is, you should be able to get the Moto X on Verizon.
            If you’re looking at the X, why not consider the Droid Maxx? Or is Size/Design an issue with that?

          • Jonathan Isenberg

            I was considering the Maxx; and believe me, that battery life is very appealing to me. The only thing that was stopping me is the design of the X and the fact that it uses software based buttons.

            The size isn’t too much of an issue, it’s more the shape.

            I may wait until it comes down in price (maybe towards next spring).

          • socarwolverine

            Gotcha, I’m indifferent on software vs. hardware buttons.
            They never seem to drop off-contract price so waiting does nothing for me. Right now it would cost me more money, over two years, to buy the phone with an upgrade than to buy it off contract.

          • http://www.baldypal.com/ BaldyPal

            Man i hope you’re remembering that wrong. i was just advised by a VZW rep to do this. Upgrade my wife’s dumbphone line, switch phone to my line, then remove data from her line. then i’ll be back to original plan with an upgraded phone.

          • DanSan

            He messed up somehow then. I did it in april and had no issues. A friend of mine just replaced his gnex last week and did the same thing, no issues.

            upgrade the dumb phone, activate it. turn it off, reactive the old dumb phone on the line. bring the new phone to your line by swapping in the SIM card and putting the IMEI number in on the website. done

        • http://j.mp/scottbeamer Scott Beamer

          What are you all doing to need unlimited data? I guess you must be streaming audio while out and about?

          I’ve got Spotify and I have downloaded my favorite tracks for offline play.

          I’m with AT&T on a 2GB plan and I rarely exceed 1GB.

          Wi-Fi, FTW!

          • Raj Bhatt

            I’ve been with VZW since 1999 and I’m grandfathered into unlimited.

            It isn’t that I do anything crazy, it is more about being able to if I need to. Just like I can LIVE off of a few hundred dollars a week, but that doesn’t mean I don’t want unlimited money in my bank account just in case.

            I don’t want to lessen the experience of my device by worrying about doing things that might make me go over my limit on data. Does that make sense?

          • http://j.mp/scottbeamer Scott Beamer

            I suppose, but I just don’t have a need for unlimited data. Sure it would be nice, but having never had it, I guess can’t miss it.

          • Raj Bhatt

            True, losing it wouldn’t affect me much. But having had it for years at the same price they charge for 2GB/month kind of adds insult to injury.

          • NyReynolds

            While I won’t knock you for saying Wi-Fi ftw, what I think a lot of heavy users gate is the fact that these companies market how fast their network is then they turn around and try to make you use as little as possible by using data caps, price gouging when you go over the data cap, and in some cases throttling.

          • http://j.mp/scottbeamer Scott Beamer

            Yes, but that still doesn’t answer my question.

          • Ryan

            Some people don’t have WiFi. My g/f doesn’t have it nor does she have a computer of any kind. She relies solely on her mobile phone for data and access to the web besides what she can do at work or my place. Believe it or not only 30% of the world is connected to the internet, and the US accounts for 78% of that traffic.

          • jt O’Brien

            I use Play Music I download movies. I tether. In the past week alone I’ve used 6GB

          • http://j.mp/scottbeamer Scott Beamer

            That’s why God invented WiFi

          • http://www.mecha-digital.com/ Jason@MechaDigital

            The biggest thing for me is the occasional unexpected tethering need.

          • http://j.mp/scottbeamer Scott Beamer

            I can’t tether with AT&T without a plan that allows it.

          • googlyeyedfrog

            Yeah, streaming Googly Play All Access on high quality uses up a good chunk of data. But now that I’m used to the high quality, I can’t go back. So having unlimited is a necessity on Verizon for me.

          • http://j.mp/scottbeamer Scott Beamer

            I guess because I don’t (and never have had) an unlimited data plan, I can’t relate. I already know it’s not an option with a 2GB data plan.

        • KleenDroid

          Why do we know they will get rid of the grandfathered unlimited users? There are not many of them left. They either already tricked most of them over or those that wanted to keep it couldn’t pay full price for a phone.

          When I went in and purchased two S4s at full retail the salesgirl told me that not many people do that.

          Verizon makes plenty of money from us. We pay full price for phones and are loyal customers.

      • Droidzilla

        You can also sell your unlimited data plan. I sold mine for $100 last year, and my sister just sold hers for $200 (for a single line). Sell your VZW plan, sell your HTC One, buy a Nexus 5, and pocket a couple hundred bucks for the deal.

        • http://www.redpxl.co/ Scott Souder

          how do you sell them?

          • picaso86

            ^ +1

          • La2da

            Do a Google search for “assumption of liability, unlimited data Verizon”. It’s basically someone just taking over your account, phone number and all. I believe there is a form to sign, but I could be wrong. I have never done one, only some light research when my girlfriend’s mom upgraded their family plan and my lady lost her unlimited.

          • Droidzilla

            No form; you just call a number. I wrote it all out here:
            http://dorkthirty.blogspot.com/2013/01/how-i-left-verizon.html

            Let me know if you all have questions. It’s the best way to leave Verizon if you want out; you get out, you make money, and it’s all 100% above board and legit. No lies, no trickery.

          • woot

            search ‘verizon unlimited’ on ebay

        • jwildman16

          How does one go about selling an unlimited plan?

          • StuckOnVerizonForever

            the black market. don’t forget to include a kidney.

          • Droidzilla

            See all of the above. Another note for people wanting to do this: the person taking over your line will have to pass a credit check and will be automatically put on a one year contract. Doesn’t matter how long’s left on your contract, they’ll be on a one year. Also, data lines can be added to people’s existing plans, but only if they’re already on one of the old Family Share or Nationwide plans; if they’re on Share Everything, they’re SOL for adding unlimited data lines. Anyone without an existing plan can AOL any data/line and will be put automatically on a Nationwide or Family Share plan.

        • Raj Bhatt

          Can I keep my phone number (port it to another company) and still sell the plan?

          • Ben Myton

            Not when I tried to do it (December 2012). The assumption of liability includes the number associated with the account.

          • Raj Bhatt

            Dang. Thank you for the reply. I wonder if I port the number out if VZW can assign a new number and keep that line on unlimited without having to sign a new contract.

          • Ben Myton

            The order of operations would be important… The standard process of porting your number includes a direct notification from the new carrier to the old carrier instructing the old carrier to terminate the account.

            You may be able to do the following:

            1. Request a new number from Verizon.
            2. Wait 24-48 hours for your existing number to be “free”
            3. Open a new account with the new carrier and specifically request your old number (and hope that it is in a pool of numbers they have access to, and hope no one else grabbed it at random).

            Good luck if you decide to try.

          • Raj Bhatt

            Thanks!

          • woot

            if i remember correctly, you can do something to the tune of…

            1. port the number to a new line (say on t-mobile), and don’t tell verizon
            2. after the port is completed, maybe 24-48 hours later, request a new number from verizon for you unlimited line
            3. transfer the account ownership to new person

            That’s a really high-level view, but you get the idea

          • Raj Bhatt

            That’s pretty much what I want to do but I’m wanting to:

            1. Port the VZW number to Google Voice
            2. Have Verizon generate a new number for that account
            3. Port my current Google Voice number to T-Mobile
            4. Sell my VZW unlimited plan.

            GVoice says that when you port a number in, it immediately cancels the prior account it was on…

          • Ben Myton

            As a side note, don’t port the number you want to use long term into T-Mobile or anyone else. Port your “good” number into Google Voice so that the carrier you chose doesn’t matter.

          • Raj Bhatt

            Yeah, my current VZW number is the one I’ve had for over a decade and the one that everyone has. I’m porting it to GV so I can use it anywhere. My current GV number is a local number for where I live so people can finally stop asking me where my number is from (Colorado area code).

          • Droidzilla

            If you port the number before a new number is put on your old plan, you will get hit with the early termination fee.

          • Droidzilla

            Everyone is correct about the AOL. You CAN port your number, but you have to work with the buyer. Here’s how to do it:
            Have the other person take over the line, then activate their own device and port their previous number over. Once their number is ported, it frees up your number to be ported. Then you can port it to your new service or, better yet, port it to Google Voice and never worry about a ported number again.

            Be warned: if you port your number before it’s freed up, you will incur an early termination fee. I recommend going with Cell Phone Forums or Howard Forums for the sale so that you can work with the buyer a bit (it’s better than eBay, in my opinion). Good luck, and let me know if you have any questions!

          • Raj Bhatt

            Thank you!

          • htowngtr

            No, I don’t believe so. They would “inherit” your number and everything. From what they explained you simply place them on your account and they take over everything then you remove yourself from the account. There’s no way to “transfer” a plan to someone else.

        • jimv1983

          Sell the plan? What are you talking about? That doesn’t even make sense. Do you mean sell your used phone?

      • PhoenixPath

        Had 5 lines on VZW, all unlimited. Down to 3 now.

        I have two on TMo and couldn’t be happier. I will be moving the rest over as the contracts end.

        VZW lost a long-time customer over the G-Nex debacle. The slowly degrading service in my area over the last year and a half hasn’t helped them either.

        • jimv1983

          I would switch to T-Mobile too if I could. Sadly, their coverage is horrible in the San Francisco bay area. Not quite as bad as Sprint but still unusable in many places. I’m on AT&T and will be sticking with it.

      • jimv1983

        AT&T isn’t any less greedy but because of how a GSM network works you don’t need AT&T’s approval to use a phone on their network. Get a SIM card and put it in an unlocked phone and you are all set.

        • BloodiedWraith

          I work for AT&T – believe me, I know how greedy they can be and I know how GSM works.

    • https://plus.google.com/110773438514346746273/ tjhrulz

      I will be going T-Mobile I think myself by the same principle applies. (I will still end up there no matter what when my unlimited is gone)

      • Justin

        same. ^_^ i use on average 10gb a month. im not going to pay 100+ for just data.

      • palomosan

        Tmobile sucks in regards to their plans, they keep slowing down your speed, my friend has an N4 and he has to keep on calling then, his speed drops all the time and he has the unlimited plan.

        • bbplayer5

          This is completely false. Ive used 16gb this month, and Im still flying high on LTE.

          • Matthew DiGiacomo

            Yeah I concur. Never seen a data slow down AT ALL.

          • nexus5

            Honeslty, using a phone on T Mobiles network is one of the most painful things I have experienced… aside from using a phone on Sprint’s network. You can contest all you want, but it is just a sad network

          • Ryan

            I may have to disagree. I recently switched over to T-Mobile mainly because not only do I happen to know a district manager in my area, but after having the Nexus 4 for a bit, it picks up better reception where I work than my Bionic did. (strange because Moto’s radios are arguably the best, but the Bionic was a redheaded stepchild of the Droid family at the time) Calls work fine, HSPA+ speeds are good, even better when I tick on LTE once in a while when I need an extra boost. 30/15 (Mbits) on a good day is what I get. But, it can depend on the area as T-Mobile hasn’t been known to have the greatest network in existence, but they do offer some competition in the big cities.

            Sprint on the other hand.. now that is a horrible network here in the DFW area. Had them years ago, dropped calls up the wazoo, my friend has an EVO 4G that can’t even keep a 4G signal, oh and the speeds suck on 4G too for that thing. (I would know because I had to download a ROM and there was no wifi at the time to connect to) Of course, it all depends on the area.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003386080045 John doe

            Sucks for you, id move out of the sticks.

          • jasaero

            Yeah. I used 100GB just to check out the Unlimited claim after switching when they first offered the truly unlimited stuff. What may be going with palomosan’s friend is that old customers on OLD unlimited plans don’t really have unlimited. The NEW unlimited plans I think are more spendy than the OLD ones by a bit. Think data used to be $15/per month and unlimited even when data and smartphone were becoming popular with T-Mo. Peeps still on plans like those or older ones get throttled.

        • G_Romero

          Not true at all. My T-mobile speeds have been blitzing fast. I can’t believe all of the “4G LTE” hype now that I’m not on Verizon anymore. I can’t tell a difference.

          • http://j.mp/scottbeamer Scott Beamer

            You’re sure you’re not on LTE? T-Mobile has LTE in a number of markets.

          • G_Romero

            Yes, I have a Nexus 4, and it is unadulterated. Speedtest.net shows a difference, but does that difference matter when I can still stream, download, and visit websites in the same, if not more consistent, fashion?

          • GentlemanScholar

            What type of speeds are you getting, and, if you don’t mind my asking, in which city are you located?

          • G_Romero

            5 Mbps Down and 2 Mbps up. It’s not a 4G phone though, so those are T-mobile 3G speeds. Which are still plenty fast for streaming/surfing purposes (in my case).

          • http://j.mp/scottbeamer Scott Beamer

            I suppose. And I was happy with HSPA+ on AT&T, but when they turned on LTE in my market, it was like going from a dialup modem to cable.

          • NexusPhan69

            AT&T HSPA+ 21 is not nearly as good as T-Mobile’s HSPA+ 42

        • StuckOnVerizonForever

          Then your friend is stupid. Sorry to hear that.

        • GentlemanScholar

          The N4 doesn’t have LTE (unless your friend used the hack/workaround to get it). So you’re saying that T Mobile is throttling his 3G data speeds?

          • athom07

            Theres a lot of people (including myself) running the hybrid modems on the Nexus 4 (its even built into the latest Cyanogenmod nightlies) so hes prob talking about the 4g speeds (although I doubt they are getting throttled).

          • GentlemanScholar

            Yeah, I know it’s not a difficult hack. I just never heard of anyone I know who is using the N4 LTE hack suffer from throttled data.

          • Matt Devo

            This is incorrect, CM never includes radio images. LTE on the N4 requires an older or hybrid radio, which must be flashed separately from the ROM, plus an LTE-enabled CM build (which the official nightlies are not) or the LTE patch on top of an official nightly build.

          • athom07

            1) It’s included in the OFFICIAL CM builds since 8/30
            2) It was common sense that you have to flash the radios thats why I said “running the hybrid modems”

            The fail was strong with you. SO STRONG.

          • Matt Devo

            whether you intended it or not, your post clearly states that the hybrid modem is built into the latest CM nightlies (“it’s” references the hybrid modems, grammar 101). That’s the misinformation I was trying to correct.

            As for the LTE functionality being enabled in CM20.2 official nighties, I’d appreciate a link as I’ve been unable to find mention of it or anything in the commit logs

          • athom07

            Honestly, you can put your mouth on my nethers. You are the only one who was unable to understand what was meant, and if you think that I am going to hunt down the commit in some attempt to prove you wrong, you are mistaken.

            TL;DR – put your mouth on my nethers.

          • Matt Devo

            I’m not trying to break your balls, just saying that we you wrote was at best imprecise, and wanted to clarify for anyone who might have read your comment and thought they didn’t need to flash the radio separately.

          • Dorian Brooks

            “Tmobile sucks in regards to their plans, they keep slowing down your speed, my friend has an N4 and he has to keep on calling then, his speed drops all the time and he has the unlimited plan.”

            -palomosan

            I fail to see where he references LTE in his post.

            http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index.php?src=http://www.miscupload.com/upload/1230937027008866348057.gif&size=400×1000

          • GentlemanScholar

            He didn’t reference LTE. That’s why I asked if his friend was being throttled on T Mobile’s 3G/4G/HSPA+ network because if I were to switch to T Mobile I would get an LTE phone.

          • Dorian Brooks

            I see your point. Sorry I must of missed that “?” in the last sentence. I still dislike how AT&T, Verizon, etc. where able to get LTE classified as 4G when the original standard was LTE-Advanced. *sigh* the power of $$$. Curse their FauxG.

          • GentlemanScholar

            Agreed. But based on a review of T Mobile’s website, it appears that if you go with 2 lines on their unlimited plan the second line gets throttled after 500MB. So maybe his friend is on the second line on his shared plan.

          • Raj Bhatt

            T-Mo calls their HSPA+ network “4G” even though it is still 3G in reality.

            I’m hoping they don’t throttle because I am seriously considering switching from VZW to Tmo after seeing all this Nexus info.

          • Droidzilla

            I’m on T-Mo from Verizon. Initially on Verizon LTE, I got ridiculously fast speeds like 20-30Mbps. Then the iPhone 5 hit and my speeds tanked down to about 3Mbps. I switched to T-Mobile with my Nexus 4 and got anywhere between 3-6Mbps on HSPA+, so it was plenty 4G enough to compete with Verizon’s LTE. I just enabled the hybrid modem for the Nexus 4 that will allow LTE and now I’m hitting 11-27Mbps. Of course, it’s only going to be as good as coverage and congestion are in your area. If you’re considering it, I recommend going to T-Mobile stores nearby where you live and work and doing network speed tests on their phones. Test in both HSPA+ and LTE modes.

          • Raj Bhatt

            Ok, that’s a great suggestion. I will do that.

        • Justin Kos

          Beating the dead horse by saying they never slowed me down, but I’m on an atnt mvno right now

        • Jonathan Isenberg

          A key factor in your friends speed could be network saturation.

          Depends on how many people are in the area and how many are using the towers that he is using.

        • ButcherChop

          Sorry, Palo. I switched to T-Mo and they’ve only improved their coverage and service within the last few months. I’m actually happier with them now.

        • EnX$$

          not true i’m on Tmobile and im heavy user on youtube and browsing my data never slows down on tmobile. tmobile been great service better than at&t which i had before switching.

        • http://riteshtripathy.wordpress.com/ Ritesh

          Hello Verizon employee….

          • http://eric.gavaletz.com/ Eric Gavaletz

            I love my Galaxy Nexus and I am in no hurry to give up the phone, but I hate sending my hard earned money to Verizon every month and supporting their part of this oligopoly.

          • http://riteshtripathy.wordpress.com/ Ritesh

            You should be looking to free yourself off those CDMA (read: excuse to have it our greedy corporate way and screw over everyone we possibly can) shackles and embrace the wonderful freedom of the real worldwide standard that is GSM. I’m not saying TMo is your only option, but it looks like they’re the only decent GSM carrier in the US that aren’t super-greedy or compulsively evil.

        • acras

          Not saying that doesn’t happen to your friend , but as long as I stay under my data cap , I don’t see any slow down at all with Tmo . Latency could be better , but my speed is consistant , and 3g speed is actually better than verizon was in my area , made the switch to prepaid really easy for me

        • Robert Landrum

          The main thing that sucks about T mobile is their indoor coverage. I support everything that T mobile has done in the past year but they MUST get that 600mhz band next summer when it comes on the market.

          But even then, my go phone plan pulls 60-70 mbps and I don’t use over 2 gigs a month so I’ll prolly be sticking with it either way.

        • jman69

          Unlimited with THROTTLE and unlimited without throttle are two different things. I pay $20 a month for data on my Value Plan (not offered now) and I maxed out at 31gb in one month watching Netflix daily. The LTE around my area is even faster since a few month ago and I max out at 25mbs.

      • monkey082506

        I was going to jump ship from Verizon when the T-Mobile Moto X was available. Now that this rumored Nexus is coming out around the same time it’ll be for the Nexus. I don’t use my unlimited on Verizon as much as some do so it’ll be better to sell it to someone who’ll use it for what it’s worth.

        • KleenDroid

          I don’t know what phone you have now, but I wouldn’t get rid of your unlimited just yet.

          I never really used much data either until I got a couple new S4s. Now I am using an average of 30 gig a month between us. It seems since we have new awesome phones we are using them for so much more.

          These new phones are nice and I feel bad for those who lose their unlimited.

          Once you give it up it is gone forever.

          • Big_EZ

            I use to use 6-8gb when I had a Droid X 3g. Then it bumped up slightly when I got a working 4g phone, the Bionic and RAZR (the thunderbolt rarely picked up 4g) to about 12gb. Once I got my Note 2 I’m using 16-18gb. I only see my usage going up from here, along with everyone else’s.

          • KleenDroid

            Yes I agree. And roms for the S4 are about 2 gig in size. Yes I have wifi at home but I think you see what I mean.

            The future is data. It is less expensive to pay full retail than to pay their rates for data overages.

          • NIGHTSCOUT

            One thing many people don’t realize, is that apps, and the internet in general, become more data hungry over time. As websites are updated, they have more bells and whistles, and require more data load. This is why I refuse to step into tiered data, because I know that every month, my data usage creeps upwards. Right now, I’m at about 16GB on one phone, and 18GB on the other. I’d be paying through the nose, if I was tiered.

          • Justin Geerdes

            How are all of you having 16-18GB of data. I barely use 2GB. Are you all constantly streaming off of it? Video maybe? It cannot be for normal use… I do use wifi as much as possible when I can though

          • NIGHTSCOUT

            I NEVER use wifi, because I have unlimited data on VzW. Alot of video streaming.

          • monkey082506

            Proud GNex owner, but I can’t justify the price per gig I’m using, if I used 30, even 20 I would reconsider but I’m not a heavy data user, T-Mobile’s unlimited will be plenty. Yea their coverage isn’t as good but I’m usually in big cities so I “shouldn’t” have to worry about that as much.

          • michael arazan

            I need verizon because I travel to places that are always never covered by t-mobile, granted I also have gf unlimited, but the speeds are abysmal started off 15/10 now 8/2 barely justifying it being called lte. But with coverage and only $30 a month for unlimited they’d have to take that away before I leave, plus everyone I know has vzw and I’m still using minutes so I save a ton of minutes with people on the same carrier.

            Also does it seem like with all the bands on the Nexus 4/5 it looks like they purposely left VZW LTE band off on purpose?>
            There really is no reason not to add one or two more bands on there.

          • KleenDroid

            Yes their speeds have plummeted. Back with the Thunderbolt the speeds were crazy fast. Now certainly nothing special.

          • Shilamar Drea Shockley

            You can a better deal with prepaid Tmobile and unlimited data if Tmobile works in your area. No one ts to suffer with an old phone.

        • Landon Clements

          Email me monkey clements9690@gmail.com

      • The_16th_Doctor

        tmobile is great (data plan wise) right now i believe im paying $20 for 2gb for 5 five phones. And the thing is if you go over the 2gb limit, they dont charge you or cut you off; they just throttle your speed. then again i dont know if the other companies do this too

    • Jeremy Martin

      I used to be a huge “gotta have that unlocked bootloader” guy. Partially I still am. Only because i want to run CyanogenMod to get close to AOSP experience as I can. Nexus devices offer a Google direct pure Android experience so I get the upset feelings regarding that. However I do have to admit if I owned a Motorola X phone I would not feel the need to have an unlocked bootloader with Blur gone for the most part. If Motorola keeps with the look they put on the Droid Ultra/MAXX and X phone then I might just be happy with the Motorola offerings and my Unlimited data on Verizon.

    • Dale

      Verizon likes to have control. I would venture to say that if there were going to be a Nexus 5 for Verizon that it would be a Verizon only device (like the GNex). With this device it would be easy to create a Verizon version and enable the LTE band 13. This way Verizon has control and you can’t take your phone, leave, and go to another carrier with the same device.

      I say there will probably be another Nexus 5 going through the FCC at some point.

      • Josh Carroll

        Screw that, toro was a disaster. Unless it’s the same device as the other carriers, VZW can shove it.

        • Dale

          That’s what I am saying. Same exact device that only works on Verizon’s network. Verizon has never sold a device (to my knowledge) that you can take to Sprint or AT&T and get activated for their network.

          • Josh Carroll

            Yes, but that’s largely because of CDMA. The fact that the device that went through the FCC can support CDMA/LTE on Sprint means either a) google told VZW to take a hike or b) Verizon told google no thanks. In either case, VZW manages to screw over people who want an unlocked device. So I’m done with them.

          • Dale

            Probably B.

            If the Nexus 5 doesn’t come to Verizon I will probably move to AT&T. It’ll save me $16 a month anyway.

          • jimv1983

            Verizon uses CDMA so having an unlocked phone is meaningless.

      • Geoffrey Gunter

        This would make me very happy. Even with slower updates I’d be willing to go this route. I have a rooted VZ Gnex and I always just install the latest updates that route anyway. Better than no Nexus at all, and I can’t change carriers because I live in an area with basically only Verizon and everyone I know is on Verizon.

        • Dale

          I agree. I couldn’t care less if it didn’t get quick updates (or at all) if it had an unlocked bootloader – You know the developer support would be through the roof.

    • http://j.mp/scottbeamer Scott Beamer

      You can’t blame Verizon for the lack of compatibility, so “screw you” seems a bit unfair.

      With that said, I honestly never expected to see CDMA in any form in a Nexus device. This really surprised me.

      • Josh Carroll

        Seriously? Verizon did everything they could to bastardize the Galaxy Nexus. It’s all Verizon’s fault. I don’t blame Google for not wanting a Nexus phone on VZW one bit, even if Verizon would have one (which I doubt they would).

        • EC8CH

          Google and Verizon have two entirely different views on how cell phones should be purchased and software should be controlled.

          I hope to god that VOLTE will give Google the upper hand in pushing through their model onto Verizon’s Network.

      • EC8CH

        You are so wrong on so many levels.

        • cmonnats23

          oh bo.

    • http://www.DavidPat.com David Pat

      I don’t like VZ but their network is serious business.

      • Josh Carroll

        Agreed, but I spend 99% of my time between my home and work and in the Sacramento metro area, all of which has excellent AT&T LTE coverage.

        • Geoffrey Gunter

          Great for you.

    • Idon’t Know

      I’m thinking about switching to AT&T now, getting a Moto X and maybe getting the Nexus 5 when it comes out. I really hate to give up that coverage though plus I have unlimited on Verizon as long as I pay full price for phones.

    • cns2007

      Exactly, this was the only thing that might have kept me on VZW. Between this, the lateness of the One, and the whole MotoMaker exclusive (though that’s Motorola’s dumb decision), I’m probably switching to AT&T. I will check out the New Maxx beforehand though. That seems to be getting some pretty good reviews.

    • Rodeojones000

      Same here. I just called Verizon to find out my exact ETF as well as my contract end date. I want to make sure I have all my ducks in a row prior to making the switch.

      • Droidzilla

        Read above. If you’re on unlimited or even a Nationwide/Family Share with tiered data, you can sell your plan and get out of your contract. Don’t pay Verizon when you can instead make money off of them. If you’re on Share Everything, then may God have mercy on your soul.

        • Rodeojones000

          Interesting. My wife and I are both on unlimited data plans. And the other details of our plan are also quite attractive in comparison to current VZW options. We’re former Alltel customers and still have that plan. I might have to look into this.

          • Droidzilla

            I sold an ulimited plan last year for $100 and a tiered nationwide plan for $30. Last week I helped my sister sell her unlimited plan (she wanted out from under the Red Thumb, too) and she sold it for $200 within about three days. Now she’s also selling her VZW Galaxy Nexus. She bought a 16GB Nexus 4 for $250 and will probably be getting ~$350 for her stuff ($200 plan, $150 phone), so she left Verizon $100 richer than before. Now she’s on T-Mobile unlimited everything for $50 (my wife, sister, and I all went in so it’s $150 for 3 lines all unlimited). I also just activated LTE on my Nexus 4. Leaving Verizon is the best thing I’ve done phone-wise, but it all depends on coverage in your area. If T-Mo and/or AT&T have crummy coverage in your area, Verizon may be it for you.

          • Rodeojones000

            T-Mobile sucks in my area. No coverage. But AT&T has great coverage. They’d be who I’d go to. Problem is my phone number. I use my phone for work and it would be a pain to have to get a new one.

          • Droidzilla

            Sell your lines to someone you communicate with. Once they take over the line, ask them to let you know when they’ve ported their number over to the line which will free up your old number (agree to this beforehand). Then port your old number over to Google Voice and never worry about it again.

    • Andrew

      Going to try Straight Talk first, low rates and no contract, but still will be using at&t sim card. If that turns out to be a bust, I’ll go no contract At&t. I’m getting tired of verizon bloatware and inflexibility.

    • Wolfpack93

      If the N5 is based off the G2 and the G2 is coming to Verizon, why shouldn’t I hope that both phones would be compatible with their network? Perhaps I need to find the FCC approval for the G2 to see what networks it supported…

    • Hooley Woggle

      No matter which, or even if both get it… Both VZW and ATT will ensure that all future Android handsets, including the N5, will have locked and rock-solidly-unhackable bootloaders in them before they’ll allow the handset onto their networks.

    • Tim

      Same here. It would be T-Mobile if they had better LTE coverage in my area (NE Arkansas). I’ve been wanting to go to T-Mobile for so long, but they apparently don’t want my money enough to rollout their network with a stronger presence here. So, if Verizon doesn’t get this phone, then I’m probably going back to AT&T, which I’m really not looking forward to. It’s not just this phone, but this phone is an example of why I’ll be leaving Verizon. There are many more reasons, such as the way their proprietary crap slowed down the Nexus/AOSP processes and rollouts with my Galaxy Nexus, their continued reliance on their outdated CDMA network, preventing me from using the phones I really want to use or if I do get them, not having any battery life, etc. At least with AT&T, I can just swap the SIM between devices and I’m ready to roll.

    • Brad Breitenstein

      Best move you will ever make. Plus you get google wallet which was near impossible to get on Verizon.

    • Robert Landrum

      I recently switched to the Go Phone plans because T mobile’s indoor coverage is just terrible. I’ve been consistently pulling 60-70Mbps. I had to drop my N4 and switch to a SGS3 to be able to make this switch so I am very happy that the next Nexus will support Att’s LTE.

      So for anyone that uses around 2 gigs of data a month. ATT’s go phone option is by far the best band for the buck.