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LG-made Possible Nexus 5 Hits FCC, Model Name D820 (Updated)

Nexus 5 FCC

Earlier this week, Google announced Android 4.4 would be called Kit Kat. In turn, they posted a video showing off the unveiling of its campus’ newly delivered delicious statue. Incredibly enough, whether it was on purpose or not, a Google employee was spotted snapping pictures during the event with an unannounced smartphone. The Web quickly went abuzz and talks of a Nexus 5 ran wild. 

Like hypebeasting clockwork, a supposed LG-made superphone (model D820) has hit the FCC. Could this be the Nexus 5? If you look at the devices backside, you will see a large opening for the camera, lining up almost perfectly with the picture we saw taken from the Kit Kat video, which was made private by Google.

Inside the FCC report, we see LTE support for AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile, but no signs of support on Verizon. In addition, we see a Qi wireless charging coil, Bluetooth 4.0, NFC and dual-band 802.11 b/g/n/ac. Even if this device turns out not to be the Nexus 5, it will still be a pretty powerful phone.

Below is the shot taken from this week’s video. Look familiar, now? Let us know your thoughts down below on if we should put money on the D820 being the Nexus 5.

Update: Engadget gleaned a bit more information from the documents that were filed at the FCC tonight that shows that we most likely are looking at a Nexus 5. The firmware is listed at M8974A, which points towards a Snapdragon 800 SoC. As if that wasn’t exciting enough, the software version of this device is listed as:

“aosp_hammerhead-userdebugKeyLimePieFACTORYeng.sangjoon84.lee.20130618.015154.”

Yes, “hammerhead” was first reported by us last week as being the codename of the next Nexus. The “aosp_” is something that Google has taken to doing on their Nexus devices and gives us a good indication that this might be another one. As for the KeyLimePie bit, the name change to Kit Kat could have been a last minute change that hasn’t been reflected in software builds yet, but only time will tell!

Update 2:  A reader (Cheers Tyler!) of ours dug even further into the FCC docs and came away with it having a 4.96″ (or 5″) display and 2300mAh battery. [FCC]

Update 3:  Here is our round-up of everything including a render and our opinions on this working with Verizon’s network.

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Via: Engadget | FCC | S4GRU

  • jadeveon da destroyer

    why is everyone some homo for verizon on this site? since when is verizon such a god of a cell phone company. It might just be that i live in san antonio and at&t headquarters here and owns everything from cell phone service to cable and internet. I dont get why you guys hate verizon for all these reason why not just go to at&t or hit up a off contract company?

    • StuckOnVerizonForever

      because i like getting service and not looking like lion king waving my phone around.

    • Tim242

      At&t moved their headquarters to Dallas.

    • M3D1T8R

      Where I live Verizon is my only real option. Especially so now that I finally (barely) have 4g at my place (my phone is my only internet option, using FoxFi WiFi hotspot). Add the fact I still have unlimited data, use as much as 30GB/mo, and there’s no choice.

      If all this weren’t the case I’d love to leave Verizon and use a Nexus on T-Mobile.

      PS. Go Spurs! Awesome TD avatar pic. Seriously, I’m a huge fan, this year’s gm6 loss I will never fully recover from.

    • chris420o

      My grandfathered verizon fam plan is great i literally pay 50 a month for my cell phone and verizons service is just…its just the bees knees…oops i fed the troll

    • Anthony Bottari

      I’ve been with the other carriers years back and since joining VZW many years back have been very happy with everything ..my plan is grandfathered in I love having unlimited data ..and my plan fits me and I always have service. My only gripe is that we miss out on great phones. If they try to take away my data plan i’m gone I’ll say that much lol.

  • John Davids

    Update #2: This device may indeed support Verizon once it rolls out Band 4 LTE (1700Mhz) later this year.

  • ToraRTC

    Ugh! Verizon. This is the last straw.. GNex was officially my last Verizon phone.

  • Tim242

    The camera hole is opposite of that on the phone in the leak. Also, it is rounded on the top and bottom, the phone in the leak is very square.

    • Xavier_NYC

      No it’s not, in your mind lift the right side of the phone.

      • Tim242

        Yeah, it’s showing the inside of the cover. Still, it’s not the same device. One is square, the other rounded.

        • Ryan

          Initially you seem to be correct, but the angle of the photo from the video is throwing your view off. As well as the guy’s hand is blocking the ends of the phone. I would believe this is the same phone, however, I don’t think this phone will be any better than the g2 besides the software it carries.

        • Liderc

          The phone in the picture has round corners, not sure what you’re looking at. Look at the bottom left corner, it’s clearly round, it’s just pixelated and so it reduces its roundness. Plus the other shots of it don’t have its back cover on it so it could alter it even more.

  • Jared Nichols

    I’m soooo glad I left Verizon in my rearview even if I did lose unlimited. I’m contract free, I have no issues with service or data and the nexus 4 has been my favorite device I’ve owned which encompasses a long list of android device’s including the OGdroid and the Gnex. I love my N4, N7 and N7(2013) so if this turns out true which I believe it is, it will be a day one purchase for myself and I can’t wait. The reason I believe this could be the N5 is the similar backside to the new N7, the camera placement is identical and the nexus logo being horizontal when in landscape is similar, also the device seems to carry the Google design philosophy which IMHO are some of the best designs I’ve seen, very modern and elegant while retaining functionality.

    • Tim242

      The FCC pic has rounded top and bottom, the FCC leak shows square, no rounding.

    • jscofi

      who did you switch to? and what prepaid “plan”?

      • Jared Nichols

        T-mo, coverage is great in my area and I am going to try at&t when the N5 releases
        The plan I went with was the 30$ 5gb, unlimited text, 100 minutes.

  • cweb69

    Hammerhead!!!

  • me

    I swear to god I have visited DL 100 times in the last 24 hours just so I can see this news.

  • JoeTi

    Too bad the LTE bands aren’t there. Not shocking at all. I might have to pull the trigger on retiring my GNex for a full price phone and play the wait and see game on new phones in 6 months or new service provider until VZW steps it up to VOLTE.

  • stinky feet

    The camera in the leak video is on the other side than the one in the FCC photo

    • Ian

      Logic fail!

  • ConCal

    I’m so excited it’s coming to Sprint! I thought VZW screwed it up for all CDMA folks.

  • Dafutr

    Oh god! Verizon’s so annoying.
    Oh wells….I guess it’s either the Note 3 or the G2….not that excited about either one.

    • StuckOnVerizonForever

      i hear flip phones work great still.

      • dafutr

        LOL..should totally just reactivate my star-tac (yes i still have it) and just call it a day..

        • Xcalibur1011

          Still deciding on which one I should reactivate myself, half of those are mine the other my parents lmao

  • ITGuy11

    This guy has to be the most famous googler ever lol

  • ddevito

    I’m so glad I dumped Verizon. I’m enjoying my new Nexus 4 and in 6 months I’ll be enjoying my new Nexus 5, on T-Mobile.

    F-YOU Verizon!

    • StuckOnVerizonForever

      6 months? Please don’t tell me you’re wasting JUMP on a nexus when it can be bought for $350 or less.

      • ddevito

        Hell no. Just figured I’d give the N4 some time to enjoy it.

        I’m contract-free!

  • TheWenger

    YESSSSSS

  • Adamania

    But that’s a Nexus 7! /s

  • StankyChikin

    May have to sell my N4 :(

  • Skittlez

    does it has HSPA+ as well?

  • Godzilla

    Reasons why Google hates Verizon.

    1. They have this huge fear of unlocked bootloaders
    2. They take FOREVER to approve updates
    3. They want to control EVERYTHING about the user’s experience.

    Now. This is not a one sided hate.

    Reason’s why Verizon hates Nexus phones. Verizon DOES NOT WANT NEXUS PHONES.

    1. Bootloader
    2. They are not in control
    3. They are not in control
    4. They are not in control.

    • Tim242

      Really? Then why does Verizon allow developer editions?

      • Godzilla

        Cuz you pay full retail and there is no Verizon warranty

        • Tim242

          Full retail is irrelevant. As far as warranty, there is a 1 year manufacturer warranty.

    • Weber

      5. Profit!

  • ImmaDroid

    Def Nexus 5.. It has that large camera circle

    • Tim242

      Except the FCC pic shows rounding, the leak shows completely square.

      • ImmaDroid

        Yea I was referring to the rounded camera cut out from the Google campus kitkat video. not sure what leak you’re talking about. The large circle matches perfectly to the Nexus 7 an that Nexus in the kitkat unveiling

        • Tim242

          The top and bottom of the leaked device are squared. The FCC shows typical Nexus rounding.

          • ImmaDroid

            Of the actual device. Well they could of changed that slightly. There isnt that much roundness to look that different. Look at the guy holding that nexus. An look at the bottom right corner. It has a slight rounded edge. It also could of been an early build.

  • Open1Your1Eyes0
  • bonix

    Honestly I’m so fed up with this. Makes it impossible to be a fan of android when they cut out 50% of their users from getting their best phones.

    • StankyChikin

      Not Androids fault.. Talk to Verizon.

      • bonix

        Tweet sent. That’ll show em!

        • Raj Bhatt

          ruining some support rep high school kid’s day probably won’t make them get a nexus haha

    • Sqube

      Just gonna take this opportunity to point out that I don’t think Verizon represents 50% of the mobile phone users in the world. I know it’s pedantic, but… I couldn’t help myself.

  • Ryan

    Being a Sprint user, I am extremely excited to see it supports their new tri-band LTE. A Nexus phone with stock android and specs similar to the G2?!? Take my money now!

    • ConCal

      Couldn’t agree more!

  • Rodeojones000

    If there’s no Verizon support it’ll be the final straw for me.

    • Skittlez

      i’m thinking that same. i have an amazing plan, but i’ve always just wanted nexus devices. T-Mobile’s looking reeeeeaaaaaal good

      • Rodeojones000

        My Verizon plan is also great. But I want a Nexus to replace my GNex. Sadly, T-Mobile isn’t an option for me. No coverage where I live, so I’ll go to AT&T.

        • JRomeo

          My brother uses the N4 on at&t and its plenty fast, so Definitely go for it.

      • Jackson

        I made the switch to tmo and I have the nexus 4 currently and hspa is plenty fast I rarely notice a difference unless I’m utorrent a movie or something and even then to save battery I have it connected to wifi and I had the s4 i5 HTC one and note 2 and the LTE is great.

        • Skittlez

          i don’t utorrent so as long as youtube and Netflx look good, which i know they do, i’m happy.

          • Jackson

            Yea they load well and unless I don’t have service they never buffer.

          • Skittlez

            sounds awesome. t-mobile is looking like more of a possibility for me

    • Christopher Moore

      I’m going prepaid. I know the service sucks compared to Verizon but I can’t take it anymore. And if this is $300 to $350 it’s a done deal; I’m finished with you Verizon!!!

  • Justin W

    ITT: People who failed geometry.

  • StuckOnVerizonForever

    That looks exactly what was in the video..

    • Tim242

      No it doesn’t. The one in the video is squared. Thr is one has typical Nexus rounding.

  • StankyChikin

    Man that camera looks ugly.. Can’t wait for this thing though!!

    • StankyChikin

      Why you down vote? That camera circle is big enough for a bukkake session ;)

      • Skittlez

        bigger lens = more details pics

        • StankyChikin

          Oh I understand that.. Just looks odd lol

  • Greg Morgan

    There will be no Nexus on Verizon until VoLTE is rolled out.

    • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

      I don’t think there will ever be another Verizon Nexus even after VoLTE is rolled out. Just don’t underestimate how evil Verizon is — they can make up any excuse not to allow any devices they don’t want to be part of their network.

      • Liderc

        And yet they got the iPhone on their network with zero bloat and instant updates.

        It’s possible, both parties just have to be willing.

        • Skittlez

          thats not what it is. The iPhone was just the biggest selling phone at the time, so Verizon wanted it on their network because it’s what the general public really wanted. if the Nexus was iPhone big, it would be a different story

  • Tyrus

    Seriously Verizon…my droid razr maxx has slowed down on me so much after 16 months…I just want a great phone to buy off contract so I can keep my unlimited data. If Verizon doesn’t get this phone, looks like I’ll get the Note 3.

    • KleenDroid

      Do a factory data reset. Then be amazed at how much faster your phone is.

      • Tyrus

        would i lose everything? i have messages on whatsapp that i don’t want to lose.

        • Kevin

          Just save your sexts to your sd

      • maxx1987

        agreed. JB + cleaning it up and it flies again.

  • NewNexusPlz

    I want to see the quality of video/picture that mysterious nexus device is capable of! Who is that guy and where can I find the footage?! He must’ve uploaded it to some social network right? People don’t just leave it on their phones. Ok I’m over it..Just please come out soon!

  • Godzilla

    Clearly many of you are not aware of Google’s hate for Verizon. This is the main reason for lack of Verizon support.

    • Sqube

      As somebody who owns a Galaxy Nexus… that’s some justified hate.

      • Godzilla

        Google hates that Verizon took forever to update that phone. They are done with Verizon as far as Nexus phones go.

        • Raj Bhatt

          What I don’t get is why Verizon allows Apple to handle their own updates but not Google. Honestly, Verizon doesn’t deserve a Nexus with that policy.

          I guess I’ll finally jump ship to T-Mo. Losing unlimited on VZW sucks though.

          • trumpet444

            This x1000!

          • ROB

            Sell it via AOL on Ebay, might pay for the Nexus

          • Qwerty

            Because once Verizon saw how successful the iPhone was on AT&T, they wanted a piece of that and gave into Apple’s conditions as long as they offered the phone.

    • Skittlez

      there’s no hate. i read about the reason somewhere way back, but forgot, but there is no hate

      • Godzilla

        Wrong

        • Skittlez

          yes, you are

  • Greg Morgan

    So glad that my Verizon contract ends this weekend.

    • El_Big_CHRIS

      Say what you want. I have been traveling all over the south and Verizon’s footprint is bullet proof. I’ve been able to tether, use my phone without any hiccups. Sure you’ll save on your local city, but if you ever go on vacation, good luck.

      • PhoenixPath

        Hit up a popular vacation destination and I bet you’ll be covered just fine on just about any network…not that you’d be spending much time on your tablet/phone I hope…

        • El_Big_CHRIS

          That wasn’t really my point. In between those cities is where it really counts.

          • PhoenixPath

            But it really really counts where you spend most of your time. *grin*

            Say what you want (sound familiar?), but TMo has been working just fine for me, even in between the cities where VZW consistently dropped voice and data.

          • El_Big_CHRIS

            Haha I see your point. I guess I was just really surprised at the network and how reliable it really is. I can’t say the same of T-Mobile because when I had it, I had awful service in my hometown.

          • PhoenixPath

            When was that, out of curiosity?

            Two years ago, there was no TMo service to speak of in my area.

            It still doesn’t show up on the coverage map at all, but I get HSPA+ nearly everywhere I go and LTE is popping up both at work, at home, and a few places in between I totally wouldn’t expect to see it (farmland…where VZW was actually crapping out).

          • El_Big_CHRIS

            Now it’s over a year. Idk to each their own I guess

    • everettedl

      Not really. Both me and my brother live in separate cities in a pretty populated part of NC, yet both of us have trouble with Verizon’s service at home.

      • Danny

        My service in CLT is freaking awesome.

        • everettedl

          To be fair, I only have problems in a few areas – everywhere else I have been fine. Sucks that I can’t get it where I spend a good deal of time every day :-

    • palomosan

      Mine ended last month, just waiting for the N5 to hit and I’m out…unless it has the Verizon LTE support, the N4 is nice but no LTE support is a deal breaker for me.

  • Pengwn

    “Inside the FCC report, we see LTE support for AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile, but no signs of support on Verizon.”

    If there’s support for sprint, I have hope we will see a verizon version. Why would you go through with the licensing for CDMA bands and not include the largest provider that uses them?

    • Greg Morgan

      Because Sprint is more open then Verizon is.

    • jessem1323

      Because Google hates Verizon!

      • Liderc

        Google doesn’t hate having their phone on the biggest network in the States, no matter what people want to think on this site.

        If they can agree on terms, it’ll be on Verizon. Google cares about money and exposure, just like anyone else. LG doesn’t want to manufacture a device and not have it on the biggest/fastest network in the US, just isn’t smart business.

        • acras

          Nexus is a developer phone , Google isn’t trying to make money off of nexus phones , or market them to the masses , they are as open as they can be , Verizon wants to control every aspect of phones on their network , so it’s simple to not include Verizon in the nexus program

          • Liderc

            That must be why they’re releasing developer phones with multiple manufacturers…

            Nice theory though.

          • acras

            So you think Google is trying to make money off Nexus phones? You pay $600 on Google play for a Nexus? What does the fact that Google has used multiple manufacturers have to do with my statement , or should I take your comment literally , that they are releasing phones from multiple manufacturers ? Have you seen something no one else has? which manufacturers are making Nexus phones right now for release? My statement stands , Google is not interested in making money off of Nexus phones

    • JonathonFlores

      Bc Vzw put their dumb ass branding on it like it was there phone, added bloat like it was their phone and supported it just like it was their phone .(speaking on the first and last nexus Vzw will see)

  • Ronald Bernard

    The only thing I am noticing is in the pic the other day the phone he is holding appears to have a flat upper and lower bezel. In these pics the upper and lower portions are rounded. Thoughts?

    • Pengwn

      I’m going to go with perspective.

    • Tim242

      I’m glad I’m not the only one that sees that.

      • Ronald Bernard

        Maybe my eyes are going bad I am 38 after all. But I have looked at the video image numerous times and do not see any rounding on the top and bottom. Only time will tell I guess.

        • ninjawarren

          It could be part of the paneling. The back panel in the FCC pics might not envelop the entire back of the phone, since it-s not meant to be removable.

        • Dave

          I’m not sure how anyone can tell from that video still. Even the curves seen on the FCC filling are rather slight. Given the angle of the phone is being held at in the video, and the fact his fingers are partially covering the sides, it would be difficult to discern a straight edge or a slight curve. If we were able to look at it straight on from the back in the video, then I’d bet you’d see a curve on the top and bottom.

          • Ronald Bernard

            Either way…I wish Google would stop messing with us and announce this dam thing already!

          • Dave

            Agreed!

  • MettaWorldTroll

    The camera is on the wrong side? You guys blind? It lines up perfectly… Faith in humanity is getting low…

    • Brady KEITH

      i dunno…looks like it lines up to me. the pics of the case are from the inside…the youtube vid pic is the case from the outside.

      • itsacardigan

        If this is the same phone….then the camera hole would be at the bottom side of the picture

    • Justin W

      The pics in the FCC Filing are from the inside. Flip the back cover over, rotate it 90 degrees to the right and you have your match to the video with the leak.

      • akazerotime

        Yes, lets forget the facts because it interferes with the story. I’m sure the FCC makes a lot of mistakes like posting inverted images and then labeling what they are…

        • akazerotime

          Oh and how about the rounded bottom of the FCC case. I’m sure when the back plate is on, it squares it off nice like the nexus one.

          • thedonxr

            It look identical to me the picture is taken from the inside of the case so everything will look reversed becase its like looking at the inside of the battery cover.

        • trumpet444

          FCC includes the word “federal”…. and they have a reputation of “f”-ing things up.

          EDIT: Not saying that you are wrong on this, just saying that putting 100% faith in a govt entity is naive

        • acras

          So you are saying that the NFC and wireless charging coils are going to be on the outside of the phone? the pictures are of the inside of the back cover so your photoshop flip doesn’t work, the camera hole lines up with the “leaked” device , but the square profile in the vid doesn’t seem to match the more roounded profile in the fcc filing

        • Justin W

          Here’s the image rotated 90 degrees clockwise and mirrored (flipped if the piece were in yours or my hands) vertically (which appears to be exactly what you did). It’s not forgetting the facts, and the FCC didn’t take a picture and invert it or anything, they posted it as is looking at the inside of the back where the charging coil/NFC antenna is. It’s not “forgetting facts because it interferes with the story”, it’s using math (or, more specifically, Geometry) to prove the camera receptacles match up.
          http://imgur.com/y1G64WN.jpg

      • Tim242

        It’s not the same device though. The leak shows a squared device. This shows typical Nexus rounding.

        • Justin W

          Look at the picture against the FCC docs – it’s the same device. The corners look “square” because they don’t have the same rounded shape as the Nexus 4, but it’s still slightly rounded off.

  • Godzilla

    Hey look at that. No Verizon bands are supported. Surprised? I’m not.

  • john0214

    Does this nexus does gsm/ CDMA?

  • nvitone23

    ITS HAPPENING!!!!!

  • Gnex

    HYPEBEASTING: ON

    • Craig Curtice curtice markley

      Moto x is a JOKE. dual core,720p screen(only good part is that is non pentile Oled screen) . Google needs to hire some people that are actually smart, they’re selling the phone that will be top of the line for $300 yet a phone that is dual core which is old, heck my LG Optimus G will kick its a** ,and the crap X sells for 600+$ .weird to say the least. gullible consumers ,uneducated, those are usually reserved for people that buy iPhones

      • TylerCameron

        What’s wrong with a 720p screen? The PPI is over 300, so you side as hell won’t be able to see the pixels without putting your face to the screen.
        With 1080p, desktop sites look way too small, mobile sites have images upscaled, making them look awful.
        Same story for most apps. I’d bet money most apps developers haven’t updated their apps for such a high resolution.

  • Motox

    This must have been staged. There is a galaxy nexus, nexus 4, and potentially the nexus 5, all in one shot. Clever girl.

    • Guest

      hehe

      • NexusPhan69

        Clever girl

    • Patrick Jewell

      heh

    • PhineasJW

      Easter Egg + Viral Marketing. ;)

  • chris125

    So that’s why Verizon is getting the note and g2 so fast. Oh well this was expected

  • akazerotime

    Other then the camera slot being on the right of the device and not the left per picture, this is not the kitkat bar you are looking for..

    • Pengwn

      It’s on the wrong side because you’re looking at the inside of it.. Flip it around and take another look.

      • akazerotime

        Pic 3 says it’s the front of the coil and in pic 4 it connects to a board BEHIND it. The coil needs to sit closest to the backplate. I don’t care if you smack it up, flip it, or rub it down. The Charging coil needs to be in front of the battery, not behind it. Wow 9:18 on the east coast and people are already drunk on hypebeast Kool-aid.

        • Skittlez

          the coil is the part on the door for the wireless charging. it has to be against the door on the inside. what we’re seeing is the inside of the battery door. it’s the same thing dude. why would the coil be on the outside of the device…..

        • 6PM on the swatch watch

          I give you an up vote for the Bel Biv Devoe reference. That was effing sweet.

  • eibook

    Isn’t the hole for the camera on the wrong side for it to match the mysterious device shown in the KitKat clip?

    • http://www.droid-life.com/ Tim-o-tato

      Flip the back…..then spin it…..matches perfectly.

      • akazerotime

        wouldn’t that mean the Qi charging coil be behind the battery?

        • Justin W

          The pic in the FCC filing is the back part of the phone (the one with Nexus on it), so it’s on the back of the phone (behind the battery).

          • akazerotime

            Most batteries are not less then 5MM. If a battery were between the base station antenna and the receiver antenna on the device, it will not charge it

          • Justin W

            I think you misunderstood my comment. I’m referencing the back of the batter as the back of the device (the screen is the front, the side with Nexus written horizontally is the back). This is what I mean:

            -Display-
            -Battery-
            -Charging Coil-
            -Back Cover-

        • Skittlez

          it’s the battery door. the coil goes against the battery door so when you lay it on the charging pad/dock, it’s picks up the charge, and the “copper wires” go up to where the battery connects to the phone

      • eibook

        Thanks, I see it now. I hope I didn’t damage your faith in humanity.

      • Tim242

        The rounded edges don’t match the squared ones from the video.

    • chris125

      Its on same side as in the pic.

    • NewNexusPlz

      I think you need to go back to elementary school geometry :p

  • Jeremy Wray

    Atleast the guy in the back looks like he is using a GNex.

    • Gnex

      Poor sucker.

      • Liderc

        I’ve tried every phone since the Galaxy Nexus and I can’t get myself to switch, it’s simply the best phone I’ve ever used. I don’t think I’ll switch until another Nexus trumps it by so much that it’d be stupid not to switch.

        • Gnex

          I’m liking the Moto X so far, but I can see where you’re coming from. There’s nothing like a real Nexus.

        • PhoenixPath

          Glad to see someone out there really liked it. I couldn’t get rid of mine fast enough. 3 replacements (well, 4 now…but my son dropped it, so not their fault) and we still can’t get a reliable signal…anywhere.

          Pissed me off so much I not only switched phones, I switched carriers as well. In the process of moving the rest of the family off of VZW as contracts come up. Son is stuck with the G-Nex for now, but that’ll change come December.

          Loved the support from VZW for every other device I’ve owned, but their network in my area has severely fallen in reliability the last year and a half, and their slap in the face with the Nexus on top of it was to much to bear for the cost.

    • Raj Bhatt

      He is, and in the video you can see him from another angle. It is a VZW GNex.

  • Ronald Bernard

    G_D mother f-ing stupid ass Verizon! Oh how I despise thee!

    • Skittlez

      just wait. the announcement is where i call it all off.

  • TheWenger

    S800. Make it happen.

    • Raj Bhatt

      Agreed, I really hope the S600 rumors don’t come true.

      • Joseph Pojunis

        What exactly do you guys do on your phones that requires an S800 and nothing less? Man.

        • Raj Bhatt

          Stuff. haha

        • john0214

          because a S800 touch less voice commandS

        • StuckOnVerizonForever

          Hack major corporations.

        • TheWenger

          I just want that juice bro.

        • ConCal

          With that logic we’d never get any hardware/software progress. The production of more advanced hardware enables greater advancements in software. A great example is that right now, S800 phones don’t have louchless voice command. But, in futer updates, that will likely show up. Not to mention you’ll be able to play more graphic intensive games as more graphic heavy games come out.

          • acras

            What logic? He just asked why people might need s800 and nothing less , he didn’t say no one needs it . I don’t NEED that much processing power in a phone , I can’t think of a reason anyone NEEDS that much in a phone , but BRING THAT SHIZZLE ON!!!

    • TheWenger

      S800 CONFIRMED!

  • Patrick Jewell

    I just want to replace my VZW GNex already… :((((

    • Jack3D

      Just get the Moto X. I was hesitant about it at first, but it truly is an amazing device. So fast and fluid, despite “only” having the dual core.

      The Motorola functions (active notifications, voice commands and quick camera) work very well and are actually useful. It’s close enough to stock where I miss very little of running custom ROMs on my GNex, particularly after loading up Nova Launcher.

      Camera sucks though…but after a GNex, you’re used to it…

      • Patrick Jewell

        BUT i got verizon unlimited.
        i would like a moto x though.

        you can use another account’s non smartphone upgrade and still keep it? I dont want to be held down with verizon another two years though…..

        • Ian Case

          You saw their new deal that gives you 6GB for $30 if you’re currently on unlimited, right? Do you use more than 6GB a month?

          • JoeTi

            No offence, b/c you’re right about EDGE and 6gb data but you still pay for it if you are a low minutes high data user. Unlimited data is covered as a discounted feature under my employee discount. New data plans are not. At minimum, I will pay an extra $150 over the contract to limit my data to 2gb and leave my minutes alone. For me, its about equal to by a phone outright and not worry about overages. DAMN YOU VZW AND YOUR GREAT COVERAGE AND SERVICE!!! I wish I could consider (barf) att or t-mo for similar LTE coverage. They just don’t cut it (yet).

          • shadowstewie

            T-Mobile’s 4G LTE is almost all nationwide…where do you even live?

          • socarwolverine

            I can’t speak for him, but I’m just outside of a city that has T-Mo 4G coverage. But just 30 miles out, any speed of their data service is nonexistent. Verizon and AT&T are both humming with 4G. This is why it’s hard to switch to T-Mo.

          • shadowstewie

            Hmmm, I would have to bite the bullet and just hope I’m around the decent coverage spot. There are tons of people I’ve seen commented on other forums saying they get amazing 4G coverage and a lot of them were not even in the main city where the market was. I’m just tired of Verizon becoming more expensive, having non-unlimited data, screwing over the first Nexus phone they got, having locked bootloaders, and mass amounts of bloatware.

          • kashtrey

            I think you still have to pay the full retail price when signing up for that and using Edge or whatever it’s called on Verizon (are they Jump, I can’t keep track). Correct me if I’m wrong though.

          • shadowstewie

            Isn’t that sharing 6GB or is that on an individual line?

          • Patrick Jewell

            of course!

      • Michael W

        I’m pretty close to being convinced. I’d just hate to get it, and then the next iP gets announced on Sept 10th and blows it out of the water.

        • Higher_Ground

          I’d just wait until both the iphone and new nexus are announced. I’d imagine there wouldn’t be anything else announced for a while afterwards so you’d have your pick of all the latest phones.

          Also, by that time you’ll be even closer to the point where VZW (assuming you have them) might have Motomaker available.

      • Liderc

        Can’t do that, not going to a Moto X from my GNex. If they would have done 1080P and a nice camera I’d have been all over it though. Also, increased the battery a bit too.

        • Jack3D

          I have 40% left after 15 hours of moderate use and phone calls. That’s switching from wifi to 4G constantly as I walk through my shops. I talk about 2-3hrs a day and text throughout.

          I’ve streamed for 2 hrs straight on 4G and only lost 15%.

          Hell, I am typing this on it now… Battery life is not an issue. Especially, if you’re coming from a Verizon GNex. I used to switch extended batteries all day when traveling. Not anymore.

          I was disappointed with the /resolution too until I started using it. It’s just fine, but the camera still sucks.

          • JRomeo

            OK, please share your secret…………. because from my experience batteries drain much much faster than what you described. if you have a link to some tutorial that teaches us how to flash a ROM which gives us that kind of battery stats, then please tell us !

          • Jack3D

            My secret was getting the MotoX. And don’t play NFL 2013 all day long…

            Doesn’t matter what ROM you use, what kills the GNex is it’s atrocious radios. Turn off LTE and you get another 20-30% battery, but it’s still worse that using wifi. The phone just sucks up batteries…no two ways about it.

            I’m serious about the battery life I listed. I worry a little about travelling for the first time (in and out of strong signal areas, tunnels, planes, etc), but I also plan on getting a Nexus 7 LTE for work when they come out to help lighten the load on the phone for email and work-related stuff.

        • shadowstewie

          Not saying the Moto X is better than the Nexus 5…but the battery life on the Moto X is kind of unbelievable for only having 2100maH. Look at the YouTube reviews, it’s from the X8 Processor.

          You also can’t tell the difference between a 1080P 4.7 inch screen or a 720P one. Unless you put them side by side, but even still, what’s the point unless you like wasting battery?

          Camera, yes. The camera is the only logical thing I can think of in this comment that makes sense. The camera on the Moto X blows.

          • Liderc

            Saying someone can’t tell the difference between 1080P and 720P is obviously an opinion as we all have different eye sights and also all use our phones at different distances.

            You agree the camera is awful, and you rationalize the battery life.

            So the only thing that makes sense in your comment is….nothing.

    • Michael W

      I couldn’t agree more :(
      I’d love a Nexus 5. Nope!
      I’d love a black HTC One, Play edition. Nope!!
      I’d love a Moto X with some higher-end specs. Nope!!!

      Bleh.

      • Patrick Jewell

        yeah this is how i feel

      • Inquizitor

        Our shared hell. T_T

    • Geo

      After reading this rumor, I kind of want to replace mine with the HTC One and just be sad. I’ve had an upgrade available for a while now and I was waiting for the new Nexus. I might just jump ship to AT&T… idk what to do.

      • JRomeo

        Whatever you do, buy it from the play store. and be contract free.

        • Geo

          I don’t have that much extra money laying around haha. I wish.

          • JRomeo

            sell whatever phone(s) you currently have at retail value (or their used phone value) and then buy a Nexus. or if you do get a new UNOPENED HTC ONE, then sell it for full retail value, and use that cash to get a google edition.

  • Heyitspeej

    No Verizon. Sounds like it has a pretty legit chance at being the N5

    • StuckOnVerizonForever

      Until voLTE don’t expect until then

      • kashtrey

        It does look like the 5 supports VoLTE from the FCC filing which is nice.

      • Larizard

        If Moto is able to release the MotoX on all carries, why can’t Google?

        • StuckOnVerizonForever

          Because the Moto X isn’t a Google nexus and it isn’t a $350 phone. If it had been, it wouldn’t be $650 and not on Verizon.

          • Craig Curtice curtice markley

            that has absolutely nothing to do with it the only reason the Nexus is cheaper is because its subsidized by Google and Google doesn’t plan on subsidizing all the phones, hello people

    • Sherlock Holmes

      There’s an update over at Android Police stating that it may just support Verizon LTE.

      • StuckOnVerizonForever

        with an extra $350 added to the price tag.

        • trumpet444

          …and months late updates that include a suite of 27 awesome apps that we promise you’ll use all the time!

          • 4n1m4L

            It’d be worth it. Its not perfect but its better than nothing.

          • fastboot

            It’s a Nexus, neither of those things should matter. You can update as AOSP updates and remove any app you wish with root access. The biggest problem I have, if this is the device would be the battery. I have lived with the battery on the Galaxy Nexus for the last two years, but it is removable and I keep a charged battery in my vehicle, wife’s vehicle, work and at home. This device will be a fixed battery I am sure and at 2300 with a quad core 1080p display it will simply live on a charger for someone that uses their device like I do. Either way, I hope it comes to VZW

          • J Dub

            The chipset in this is light years beyond what the GNex has inside. This is a SoC that has incorporated everything on the chip meaning low power consumption. The number one battery drain is screen time anymore. How long you have the screen on usually determines battery life. From 7am till 10 pm yesterday with pretty heavy use I was still at 30% on my S3. This should be even better.

        • Steve Ballmer

          Sure as hell won’t be available through Google Play if true.

          • StuckOnVerizonForever

            by the time verizon releases it, it will have been beat worse than mel gibson’s ex wife

        • Mike Hilal

          Would still pay for it

        • michael arazan

          If I have to pay $650-700 for a Nexus 5 on verizon, I will do it again, sadly, but it will probably be way better than a Moto x and I like to have stock android, and I don’t root and rom and don’t want to mess around with trying to unlock a locked down vzw phone. Hopefully the battery will be well equipped for LTE power usage unlike my gnex was prepared for.

      • kashtrey

        I think it’s a mistake and misleading on AP’s part. They are talking about the AWS spectrum being part of the FCC filing which VZW will use to add some extra bandwidth in congested areas but will not be everywhere. This phone does not support the band that is the basis for Verizon’s nationwide network.

    • Dale

      Let’s hope the LTE Sprint support means there is a CDMA chip, then I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Verizon version pop up. I doubt Verizon would be the ONLY major US carrier not to have the phone.

      • kashtrey

        It’s not like that hasn’t happened before. Didn’t the Nexus S come to all but Verizon?

        • Dale

          Good point. However, the Nexus brand is exponentially more recognized and popular now.

          But as always, I am not going to be surprised if this phone doesn’t come to Verizon though.

        • Mike Hilal

          And the nexus 4

          • palomosan

            Well the N4 is mostly used only on Tmobile and At&t or other networks with GSM not CDMA as Sprint and Verizon

          • acras

            Not pretty much, the N4 is only used on GSM networks .

      • zurginator

        I doubt there will be a CDMA chip, probably LTE and HSPA like the N7 – CMDA allows Verizon/Sprint to pull strings, LTE doesn’t.

        • Craig Curtice curtice markley

          I just posted above that if the Nexus is a world phone like they say it is going to be it will have both CDMA and GSM capabilities that means sprint and AT&T and so on

    • Christopher Moore

      If no Verizon I’m leaving them. Tired of the locked bootloaders, high phone prices, slow phone releases, the extra crispy Verizon branding and extremely high monthly bills. I know they have the best service in the business but I can’t take it anymore.

      • Phillip Bee

        If Tmo has LTE in your area .. DO IT !! I made the change last yr. Regret leaving them for VZW to begin with.

      • Derrick Jefferson

        It hurts my heart… I only came to Verizon to get the gnex, then google and Verizon had a falling out and I’m trapped with no more love from google. Ive got my entire family on Verizon now (4 phones, 10 GB of data) so I cant just leave. Thank you google! I love the network but I’m frustrated with the same things you are.

        • jb

          this is why family/shared plans suck, and why carriers push them more than individual plans…

      • cheese

        I’m dead set on going T-Mobile for $30 / month 5GB plan w/ 100 min talk time and UNLIMITED text. That is a SLAMMIN deal. Also, if you become a new customer of Tmo you get a $50 credit. It costs ~$25 to activate so you in essence you get a $15 credit.

        I’ve had it with Verizon Wireless. I gave them so many chances. Loyal customer for almost 2 decades now too. I asked if they had any comparable deals didn’t have one close to it. I let them know that they need to do something but alas, their hubris will be their downfall.

        • turdbogls

          same here man, January 27th can’t come soon enough.

          • Larizard

            me too. contract ends on Jan, but not sure about leaving VZW and giving up unlimited Data.. i used Play Music and tether to my laptop a lot..

          • turdbogls

            same here. i run though about 7GB/month. thankfully, T-mobile is pretty solid around here, even faster/better signal than verizon in the most impoartant places (home and work)

        • Derpinator

          Same here, soon at my verizon contract ends in a couple months I’m bouncing to tmobile.

          I know verizon has better coverage in some areas but being able to use any phone I want, no locked bootloader, use it overseas, and have a lower bill is worth way more to me.

      • jack peters

        You know.. it’s cheaper to buy it straight from google play… then you don’t have to worry about locked bootloaders or anything.

        • Larizard

          and just insert a TMo or AT&T sim, right?

    • Jroc869, Nexus-Life

      with only a 2300mah battery im not sure I want it on any carrier now.

      • jack peters

        If it has good battery optimisation you could easily pull days of use out of it, you can’t judge a phone based upon how big the battery is. Wait for it to be released and for people to test it.

      • turdbogls

        I was wondering when we were going to start talking about this. in all honesty, 2300mah is fine by me. i have been living with the Gnex for 2 years now…..this phone is going to blow me away with its battery life :)
        but seriously, My guess is that they are going to do even more in the battery dept. and this should be plenty to get me through a full day of use.

        • Jroc869, Nexus-Life

          Yeah I sure hope they do. Kit Kat better be really optimized for battery. This phone internally is probably based on the g2 and I think The g2 is coming with a 3000 mah battery. I won’t be in the market for a new phone until the holidays anyway so we shall see.

          • turdbogls

            yeah, G2 comes with 3000Mah battery.
            the android team did pretty well with 4.3 in terms of battery life, I am guessing the new Kernel and other optimizations will make 2300mah last at least full day. Only time will tell, but if all this stands, It’ll still be my next phone.

    • Danny

      I travel for work so i pretty much need VZW used to have tmobile and after you get out of most cities the service sucks. Used to have ATT work phone same as the tmobile one. Got VZW and cant be happier with my service other then wish it was a lil cheaper but i do get a 22% discount thru my company.

      • Craig Curtice curtice markley

        to the person below this message that it won’t let me reply to for some reason it the Nexus is a world phone like they say it is going to be then it will have CDMA and GSM capabilities most of the world uses GSM only us idiots over here in America use CDMA because we seem to always have to be different which usually kills us and we’re always second with the top of the line phones except for Nexus thanks to Google

  • s23

    It’s here folks!

  • TheWenger

    Ron Paul gif.

  • dtraini30

    Hey, Verizon. Screw you.

    • JBartcaps

      They do offer the Moto X

    • trumpet444

      I’m not a huge fan of profanity in comments but I would’ve supported the full “f-word” in your comment. Verizon continues to point the middle finger at us.

      Terrible update treatment of the Gnexus, quickly locking down every phone in sight (HTC One), no Nexus 4, and now maybe no Nexus 5. I wish they’d go ahead and kick me off unl data so I could leave them with zero regret

      • ThomasMoneyhon

        Verizon gave google the middle finger on the g-nex, its only right they return the favor and NEVER AGAIN release a nexus phone on verizon.

        • Tyler Bowden

          Or better yet, release a VOLTE phone and laugh at them while they sell them from the Play Store.

          Hehehehehehe /cartman