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Report: Moto X Launching on All Carriers August 23, MotoMaker an AT&T Exclusive Until November

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I don’t think we need to hammer home out thoughts on Motorola giving AT&T the exclusive on MotoMaker at launch any longer, we’ve made it pretty clear that we think it’s a terrible decision. MotoMaker is easily one of the three reasons customers will think about buying this phone, so locking out anyone who’s not on AT&T makes absolutely zero sense to us. But again, you know that, so we’re trying not to continue to dwell on it. In the end, other carriers (including Verizon) will see Motorola’s Moto X customizer. The big question since the phone’s reveal, has been “When?” 

During our time on the DL Show last Friday, we put our money on it being an AT&T exclusive until the holidays. If a report out of Ad Age is correct, we were spot on with that assumption. Ad Age claims to know everything there is to know about the marketing campaign behind the Moto X, one of which is Motorola plan for MotoMaker. According to this report, we’ll be waiting until early November before any other carrier will be able to push customize versions of their Moto X. As a part of AT&T’s exclusive deal, you’ll see plenty of promotion of the Moto X from America’s recently dubbed “most reliable” wireless carrier.

On semi-related news, Ad Age is also reporting that the Moto X will arrive on August 23 at Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint. We reported August 23 for  Verizon last week, so it’s no surprise to us, however, we would love to see the phone launch at other carriers on the same day. Far too often do we see a staggered rollout of phones availability here in the U.S. We should point out that this report states that T-Mobile will sell the Moto X on August 23, but Motorola has already confirmed that the T-Mo version will only be available directly through Moto’s site at launch. Details, details. We were also told during our press meeting with Motorola during the unveiling of the Moto X that the phone would be available starting in late August or early September depending on the carrier. In other words, we’d be surprised to see it launch on all four of those carriers at the same time.

If the 23rd is indeed launch day, you have just over two weeks to remain patient.

Via:  Ad Age

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  • Patrick Crumpler

    Sweet! Hoping that they announce off contract pricing soon. If its around $400 I am in.

    • DJ SPY

      They already did. $600 ± depending if you want 16 or 32 gig

  • googlyeyedfrog

    Here’s what I don’t understand: DroidLife knows that the largest segment of their readers own a Galaxy Nexus with unlimited data through Verizon, and want to continue off-contract to retain unlimited data. They also know that we don’t want to pay $600 or $700 dollars for a new device. So why do they act like we’re all considering buying the Moto X on contract? I think the only real reason we were so excited in the first place was the possibility of the Moto X being $400 off contract, allowing us to retain our unlimited data plans.

    • chris420o

      I was lucky enough to get a brand new droid hd from asurion to replace my pos galaxy nexus…with xenon hd im pretty happy with this phone but still want an upgrade…if the moto x had motomaker on vz and was at a cheaper price off contract id buy in a heartbeat..but its not…so ill keep my money

      • googlyeyedfrog

        Yeah, if the Moto X was $400 off contract I think 30% of Droid Life readers would buy it instantly

  • aQuickBit

    I seriously have to wait until November? Is it really that worth it?

  • shooter50

    I like Google, but they could mess up a wet dream.Great selling point, no wait, its only on one carrier. They should learn from samsung. Same phone on all carriers means huge sales.

  • Xcalibur1011

    So one of their biggest selling points is customization, but we have to wait till November unless we are on att? By then the GNote3, G2, and Nexus 5 will have already arrived.

  • Mondo

    So, having to buy it from Motorola (I’m on T-Mobile) guess that doesn’t mean I’ll have the option to put money down and make EIP Payments like I did on my current phone. Hmmmm, if that’s the case, might as well just buy a Google Edition S4 or One.

  • chucklehead322

    I’ll probably be picking one of these up but….
    I won’t touch it til I can take advantage of MotoMaker as I’m on Verizon. I can wait patiently until November and Verizon can wait for my $$.

  • NexusMan

    Well, I, unfortunately have a few months to wait, since there’s no way I’d buy this without customizing, and I have no immediate plans to jump ship to AT&T.

  • Scott

    I could care less about specs if it holds a signal unlike a certain Samsung product I own.

  • http://www.baldypal.com/ BaldyPal

    I’m just going to have to wait, gotta save “full price” money to keep unlimited data and i need a phone that looks like this.

  • MafiaMM

    Isn’t the Motomaker supposed to be to customize your NEW MotoX phone? And NOT one you already have? If so….FAIL

  • King Lo

    Okkay I read the source. Seems Moto gave AT&T exclusivity in exchange for prime retail placement in store. I still think it was a terrible decision, but at least I can see the logic in it now.
    Verizon was defintely not giving it prime placement over the Droids.

    • chris420o

      This cant be true…they must of done this and gave them a dumptruck full of money

    • Dan Letsch

      I do wonder if it also has to do with capacity. If they allow it all at once on all 5 carriers, they may not be able to keep to the 4 day turn around. If they start slipping to 2 or 3 weeks people will get annoyed. Since this is the first time for this, they really have no idea what the demand will be at this point.

  • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

    What about the unlocked version? Can I use motomaker on it? The Verge had a long video with an unlocked Motomaker customized Moto x…

  • LuckyStrike1944

    While I agree this is a terrible decision on everyone’s part with no thought to the consumer (imagine that!) it oddly works just fine for my own situation.

    For those that bought a GNex on Verizon, on 2-year contract, on launch day; we’re up on our (full) 2-year contracts in December. Just in time for me to grab a fully customized MotoX. Now…to jump ship to T-Mobile or not too.

  • S.Scott Turgeon

    I think this is the dumbest marketing ploy since clear Pepsi to make a customizable phone only on one carrier for 2 months who would be stupid enough to buy it for the first two months major fail

    • Higher_Ground

      Well I have a feeling if you walk into a Verizon store and ask about the MOTOX they’ll pretend they’ve never heard of that “motomaker” thingy you’re trying to explain to them.

      They’d have one hell of a time trying to market it without the color features, especially if the person looking to buy the phone knew they could just walk into an AT&T store and order one.

  • Futbolrunner

    My gf doesn’t care when I tell her about the latest phones coming out and what they can do. Once I told her about all the pretty colors she can customize a Moto X with, she said “I want it!” As much as the general public doesn’t care about specs, they’re unfortunately losing out in the end. She has Verizon, by the time it’s offered in November it may already be old news.

  • MikeSaver

    “If the 23rd is indeed launch day, you have just over two weeks to remain patient.”

    I think you mean just over two and a half months. Why would I buy the Moto X now the custom version doesn’t even come out until November? Huge fail on Motorola’s part and no you can’t write about it enough. If I get sick of waiting maybe I’ll just get an LG G2 with that huge battery

  • RoadsterHD1

    This is dumb. Moto is going to lose a ton of sales cause between August and november people will be talked into another phone. If someone wants this phone they only want it if they can customize it.

  • Ted

    Motorola didn’t offer it as an exclusive to ATT first. They offered this to everyone and only att jumped on board. Verizon initially wasn’t going to do it at all but on moto x launch day Verizon decided they wanted to be a part of it.

    This is motos flagship and moto maker is their big project they wanted everyone to adopt it but again only att said yes when it was laid out on the table to all the carriers

  • radiohead14

    “MotoMaker is easily one of the three reasons customers will think about buying this phone, so locking out anyone who’s not on AT&T makes absolutely zero sense to us. But again, you know that, so we’re trying not to continue to dwell on it.”

    no, please continue to write about it. if you guys, the verge, engadget, and other tech sites keep reminding them.. maybe then, moto/google will change their mind and at least shorten the idiotic exclusivity. i really would love to get this release day, but without customization.. it’ll be no go for me. and i’m afraid that by the time it does come to verizon.. something else would catch my interest.. i’m sure plenty of people will feel the same as well. i think moto/google will lose a lot of sales due to this.

  • trixnkix637

    Just in time for my birthday. My S3 has been getting a little long in the tooth.

  • CARPDM

    cant I just get one customized on AT&T and bring it to Verizon? My parents probably have an upgrade I could take… don’t all the MotoX’s have all the antennas?

  • Tyler Durden

    Made for you. Made by you. Only if you’re on AT&T which hardly anybody that wants a Motox is on them.

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    Just in time for KLP. I”m sure we’ll see a GP version before that, hopefully including colors and a reduced price.

  • kelly

    All I care about is that the wood backings are available in November.

    • MacNificent

      Same. Ebony for me!

      • kelly

        I’m stuck between ebony and rosewood. Will have to wait to see more pictures to decide.

  • blix247

    They’ve already alluded that they couldn’t scale to meet the demand of all four carriers at the start. Why continue to hammer them about it? Its not a bad business decision to slowly scale. If they turned on all four carriers on day one then announced 3 week delays people would eviscerate them much harder than they are right now.

    • Shweenie

      We know. We’re just expressing our frustration and disappointment is all. I’ve always grabbed my phones on release day, now I’m torn :/

    • Bryan

      But then they shouldn’t have made that their big new marketing push! Don’t advertise something as being a key reason to get the phone if you are going to roll it out slowly. The AT&T exclusive almost looks like a last minute decision based on how much they touted the MotoMaker stuff before hand.

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        I guarantee that every commercial that references the cutomization will have a big fat AT&T logo on it, so the average person won’t think “they’re an idiot for not letting every carrier do that” they think “hey that’s awesome, I wish I was on AT&T”.

        • Bryan

          Unfortunately, you are probably correct.

    • Higher_Ground

      I guess it’s a balance between waiting 3 months for a phone or 2 weeks. AT&T is virtually 1/3 of the market and adding Verizon/T-mobile/Sprint upfront would probably only double the amount of orders, maybe tripling it – so the 4 day turn around would go to 8-12 days, which is in no way unreasonable or even remotely close to the 3 months we’re going to wait now.

  • Ed Waters

    Is the end of exclusivity only on MotoMaker or will the exclusivity also expire on other carriers being able to offer a 32GB model of the Moto X?

    • tyguy829

      I believe the 32gb version is an option in MotoMaker

      • Ed Waters

        Thank you…I sure hope it is.

    • Animate

      This is my big question as well. I’d love a 32GB version even though I’ve made the 16GB in my One S work this long I have had to actively do it at times.

      • Ed Waters

        Since I will have to go into a tiered or shared data plan with my next upgrade, I will need at least 32GB to store the music and podcasts I listen to on my phone.

  • NemaCystX

    So Kellex, your telling us you’ve been reporting the correct date all along? Awesome, here’s to Kellex and the Moto X

  • http://www.unappreciatedscholars.com/ Steven Shreve

    Playing Devil’s Advocate a little, but has anyone considered that maybe Motorola has staggered MotoMaker’s availability due to logistics concerns? Perhaps AT&T will be the guinea pig to work out all the bugs before it’s rolled out to all carriers? Often, the best test for something like this is a live test and it’s much more manageable if it’s just one carrier to begin with.

    • Shweenie

      This is very true. They probably have to see what the volume is like. And since VZ has the DROID exclusive, I guess they figured the guinea pig to be AT&T. Shucks.

      • http://www.unappreciatedscholars.com/ Steven Shreve

        Yeah, that’s kinda what I was thinking. If they were able to get AT&T to pony up some kind of exclusivity compensation too, then all the better for Motorola, right?

    • Animate

      don’t come here making sense. People are impatient and want their new phone itch now!

      • http://www.unappreciatedscholars.com/ Steven Shreve

        I’m impatient too, especially now that I’m having random reboots on my RAZR, even after trying all the ways of fixing it…

      • RoadsterHD1

        LOL

    • SchwannyT

      Exactly just imagine if they opened it up world wide and the site got hammered *cough* nexus 4 *cough* and the shipping was delayed 2 weeks *cough* nexus 7(2011) *cough* and then all the tech sites lit you up for being idiots to not be able to handle a million orders on day one. THAT would be really stupid

      • aye_winchell

        i get what your saying but i still think id rather have the problem of too many orders then not enough. Will anybody even notice when this is available on verizon, especially if the new nexus phones arrive in oct.

        lest of course then next nexus IS a motox x, available on all carriers…..
        nevermind, ill just show myself out.

      • Kanaga Deepan N

        In that case, they can launch MotoMaker for all operators in one week gap… Say Aug23rd BigRed, Sep1st for AT&T, Sep8th Sprint, Sep15th T-Mobile, Sep22nd USC, (or in reverse from small carriers to big ones) etc…

        In that case, it will be around 2 to 4 Lakhs of orders on day one only… Still a decent number and manageable too, imho…

    • King Lo

      Then why use the words stagger in press releases. People understand a staggered launch. Exclusivity indicate money changed hands.

  • Jason Kahn

    I hate exclusivity agreements.

  • Cory_S

    The AT&T exclusive needs a Hitler video.

  • Lucky Armpit

    Can someone please confirm or deny, once and for all, whether Verizon is getting the 32GB version?

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      No. At&t Exclusive.

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        To elaborate: AT&T has an “exclusive” on the 32GB, which may or may not be permanent. However, considering that it is only available on the MotoMake site, I’m going to go ahead and guess that it will be available as an option for all MotoMaker-customized devices, especially since they like touting the “2000+” combinations, which is only remotely achievable if they have a 16 & 32 GB version on at least 3 carriers, unless they are counting the 2 Dev editions, in which case its almost certainly permanent.

        • Lucky Armpit

          Thanks for the replies guys, but can someone please post a link stating that as fact? I’ve heard the rumors thus far but no one has been able to “prove” it.

  • Nazology

    I don’t see any benefit to the Moto X over the Droid Ultra Maxx, especially after the review of the Moto x battery was not stellar.

    • EC8CH

      Design choice… everything else is a toss up

      • Nazology

        I agree with you on design in regards to screen size and the hard button set up. Everything else, including battery is definitely not a toss up.

        • EC8CH

          x to ulta is a toss up

          x to maxx is not, but the maxx also costs more.

          • trixnkix637

            What about the fact the X is supposedly going to get updates similar to the Nexus program where the Maxx still has to rely solely on VZW. That to me plays a bigger part than battery.

          • Nazology

            If you think the Moto X is going to get updates fast on Verizon, start drinking now.

          • EC8CH

            ^ this

            Doesn’t matter if it’s a new Moto
            It’s still the same old VZW

          • trixnkix637

            I would never say that. I know my slave driver all too well.

            However I do suggest that this being Google’s baby and all, that it will probably see updates faster than it’s DROID’s cousins. And if you don’t believe me go look at the update patterns for the DROID X, X2, & DNA.

            I don’t see Google leaving too much in VZW hand’s with this phone. I mean you can see them flexing their muscle with the lack of VZW branding all over the Moto X.

            But who knows. Only time will tell.

          • King Lo

            The X and the Droid are running the same software on the same chips. They’ll be updated at the same time.

          • trixnkix637

            Well great either way then.

          • RoadsterHD1

            but worth it.

    • Shweenie

      I’ve heard mixed reviews on the battery end. So it could be “so-so” it could also be pretty stellar. And the Moto X does have a (slightly) better screen. You just have to justify if the extra $100 is worth the battery. Personal choice of course

      • jhlinka

        More like $50 because the 32 GB Moto X is $249. Also you get the 6 month subscription to Google Music w/ the Maxx (valued at $60 if you use it)

    • ceejw

      Moto X has these things on the maxx: Higher PPI screen, onscreen softkeys, customizability, arguably better design, and smaller physical size and screen if you consider that a benefit which I do.

      • NAzology

        Customizable for Verizon maybe in November. You realize that is a quarter of a year away. The Moto X specs are already 2012. In November, the device won’t matter. When the device does not matter, customizable does not matter.

        • ceejw

          As far as I know Krait 300 cores did not exist in 2012 and neither did the Adreno 320. The only other phones coming out on Verizon before November are giant phablets and LG’s KIRF GS4. I don’t see how this phone will be any less relevant then.

          • EC8CH

            “I don’t see how this phone will be any less relevant then.”

            The next Nexus is made available on Verizon?

            Hey… it could happen.

  • Jeff C

    hopefully AT&T paid out the arse for the exclusivity or else someone over at Moto/Google did not take micro economics

  • Apostrafee

    Black and White variants should be $99 on contract with the Motomaker version being $199-$249, pretty sure others have mentioned this but man does it make sense.

    • tyguy829

      This. The customization process obviously adds some cost, and it isn’t fair to make those who get the standard version front those costs.

      • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

        It pushes people to do it though, and that’s what they want. Walking, talking advertisement for their new product.

        • deadpenguins

          I would love to, but I don’t want to wait until November to do so. That’s garbage.

          • michael arazan

            Would love to see the price lowered on subsidized and full price for people on all other carriers who wait till November to choose the customized version, like a “loyalty discount” for buying their product.

    • jose

      $150 more for a custom color? I think that’s a bit too much. $50 maybe. $150, not a chance.

      • Apostrafee

        I think I would pay an extra $99 (depending on customization options) and an extra $50 would be for 32 gig model, but I was thinking about it producing a mass amount of black and white models has got to cost less than devices specifically designed by individual taste

        • Patrick Crumpler

          $100 is what I would think too. You spend that much on cases to get the look you want anyway.

          • http://www.techmantis.net/ Minja Miketa

            Where do you buy cases that it is costing $100?

      • michael arazan

        I’d pay a bit more for a bigger battery and a snapdragon 800 processor in the moto X with customization’s.

    • Kenton Douglas

      Not to worry, those (or even less for the standard versions) will be the prices very soon after launch.

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  • Instanthero

    But when will it be available as part of the Nexus Experience program? And will we be able to use Motomaker there?

    • MacNificent

      I read somewhere that the GPE or stock moto x will not allow customizations. I”M trying to find the link now. it was a youtube video

  • Joe Bertolino

    November? They must not know how fast a device becomes obsolete these days.

    • Cory_S

      SPECS DONT MATTTTER!!!!11

      • Wooshers

        Specs may not matter but competition sure does…..who knows whats coming around the corner.

  • Tyler

    So basically what your saying is that Verizon is going to take their sweet time releasing the device like (to name a few) the S4, HTC One, and the Galaxy Nexus. Verizon need to get their head out of their a……

    • Nazology

      Verizon will release the device on August 23rd, like everyone else. AT&T has exclusivity on Motomaker/Customization.

      • Tyler

        He said 4 and the Moto X is coming to 5 carriers (AT&T, Vzw, t-mo, sprint, us-cellular) assumed that was what he was implying.

        • King Lo

          T-mo won’t have the phone in store they’re the outlier.

  • Shweenie

    So now, do I grab the Moto X on the 23rd, or do I grind it out until November when I can customize it?? Decisions, Decisions.

    • Ryan Powell

      I bought my Verizon Gnex in November 2011 so hearing that the Moto X customizations won’t be available until this November doesn’t upset me too much. Just hope there isn’t a shortage due to rush or long shipping delays then. The benefit to waiting until November is the possibility of knowing about the next Nexus phone and Key Lime Pie features (as if it would even come to Verizon). The exclusive deal still makes me shake my damn head though.

      • Tyler

        Assuming i don’t go with the MAXX, I have a feeling something better will come by then and I wont want it, just like the bionic way back when it was shown off at CES, that was my next phone then I caught wind of the Gnex and couldn’t be happier. I see that as being one of the selling points and to not get it all decked out wouldn’t make any sense.

      • bowlzdeep

        The Verizon Galaxy Nexus was released on December 15, 2011.

        • Ryan Powell

          Was it? I know I grabbed it on release day but thought that was end of November. Maybe I preordered it. Either way I’ll be happy knowing my Gnex has lasted me 2 solid years.

          • bowlzdeep

            “Either way I’ll be happy knowing my Gnex has lasted me 2 solid years.”

            Same boat here. However, I will be leaving Verizon this winter as the new Nexus is announced and will be switching to att for instant updates and no Verizon bs. All of this is of course assuming that the new nexus is released unlocked from the play store.

          • Ryan Powell

            I’d do the same if AT&T coverage wasn’t awful where my wife works. I rarely use the phone to actually talk on it but the wife can’t compromise on coverage. Sad that I’m wishing I was on AT&T’s network just for access to better phones.

          • http://www.baldypal.com/ BaldyPal

            “All of this is of course assuming that the new nexus is released unlocked from the play store”

            I think that’s a pretty safe bet. I doubt anyone will bet against you.

          • Patrick Crumpler

            I did for Tmo prepaid. Got the N4 from Google Play, in white. Went to Tmo and found their service wasn’t great at my house. Switched to AT&T and has been great. $60/month saves me about $60/month. Plus I am on 4.3 and have a kick ass phone.

          • Higher_Ground

            IIRC it was delayed and pushed back endlessly after it was announced, so no big deal for not getting the date right :)

    • Animate

      I’m going to wait until November. My One S is serving me just fine and I have no complaints other than HTC and updates and that is a minor one. I just want a full price info and a confirmation on if the 32GB is solely for AT&T or is it a timed exclusive as well.

    • KleenDroid

      Why? Do you want a pink one?

      • aQuickBit

        Who wouldn’t want a Droid Life colored one?

    • Gnex

      I’m waiting. I want a 32GB matte black X-Phone with an unlockable bootloader, dammit.

  • http://twitter.com/geoff5093 Geoff Johnson

    Motorola, you have a seriously great new idea for customizing phones, and you advertise this all over the place – why oh why did you make it an AT&T exclusive for 3 months?? By November people who were holding out for this may go with another phone as many more are coming out this holiday season.

    • Kevin Guinn

      At&t probably paid more for the exclusive and Motorola might be playing it safe. They don’t want to release the new moto make for everyone to jump on all at once and crash the service. Plus all of the devices they’d have to customize on launch day. There is no way to forecast for the amount of staff they’d need so they are playing it safe and ramping up.

  • emoney

    If they weren’t going to allow other carriers to use Moto Maker, they should have released the phone in more than black and white

  • tyguy829

    Personally, I don’t care that much about the pretty colors (sup JLo). But if I can’t have a 32gb version on Verizon until November, forget it. By then, 5.0 will most likely be out and the Moto X will be dead to me.

    • Monk

      So its said and done no 32 gig until motomaker?

  • UNCNYY04

    By the time November comes I’ll just wait for the X-MAXX.

    • Dean

      My thoughts exactly.

  • Eric

    Motomaker until November? RIP Moto X.

    • hkklife

      Yup, somehow I think that there will be some kind of snafu and anyone who was hoping to order a customized one for VZW and get it before Christmas is gonna be sorely disappointed.

    • KleenDroid

      Wow November. That is a kick in the teeth for those on Verizon that are excited about this phone. A black one would be fine for me but the girls and kids will have to wait.

      • Eric

        The only selling point IMO is motomaker if you don’t get that might as well get a better phone aka G2.

        • EC8CH

          with a complimentary VZW tattoo on your forehead

          • evenmaddermax

            …and an LG on your balls

      • Waiting_could_be_a_good_thing

        Try looking at it from another perspective. If you’re on VZW and forced to wait till November for MotoMaker, by that time the next 4 big phones should be announced: Nexus 5 (and whether or not VZW will carry it), HTC One Max, Galaxy Note 3, and dare I say iPhone 5s.

        Thus, this helps prevent one having buyers remorse if you had an itchy trigger finger to buy Moto X ASAP, but then one of the 4 other phones turns out to be more desirable.

      • aQuickBit

        I’ve wanted an android green colored one since I saw that leak :(

  • Tirionfive

    I personally will wait till we find out the “Off contract” Price, and If it’s decent, I will wait for MotoMaker for Verizon. If it’s the same, I’ll just go for the Verizon in-store version. Honestly, Moto has made me a believer. I have to get off the GNEX, and If I am paying full price, I’d rather have a close to stock device. No DROIDS for me, thanks.

    • hkklife

      Wasn’t it already acknowledged that $575 off-contract for the 16GB version is pretty much the price?

      • Tirionfive

        Nah, Carriers jack up the price off contract. a la Nexus 4 on Tmo ($449 or some nonsense like that). I absolutely refuse to believe this will be the off-contract price from Moto store.

        • EC8CH

          while I wish you were right, the N4 price difference between T-Mo and the play store is the exception not the rule. All other phones are pretty much the same retail price at the carrier or any other retail outlet.

          • Tirionfive

            Well, Not necessarily. The Moto X at $575 is $25 less than the HTC one or the new droids, full price, and whole $75 cheaper than the Samsung S4. Even @ $400, it’s still very affordable. I highly doubt it’d cost any less than that off contract.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            I’m putting the range @ $450-550 off-contract. At $450 they still make some decent margins and would really drum up a good bit of business. However, $550 would put it directly between the Mini and Ultra on Verizon, and it would still be undercutting the competition by 10-20%.

        • hkklife

          Yes, but remember the Sprint & Verizon versions include CDMA radios and those libraries are closed-source and proprietary to Qualcomm. So those carriers can set WHATEVER price they want for full retail. Now, it’s entirely possible we’ll see aggressive pricing on the GSM Moto X directly from Moto but definitey not for the Sprint & VZW versions. I cannot WAIT until CDMA dies the miserable death it deserves and we can go VoLTE.

          I can recall twice in recent memory Verizon blowing out phones at non-contract pricing…I think the Palm Pre 2 and the refurb GNex last year. Otherwise, they’ll charge you as much for, say, a Samsung Stratosphere as they did when it was launched years ago.

          • Tirionfive

            Preach it, Brother. I am holding on to shattered dreams, but one can hope!

          • Tyler

            Well said, I used to think Verizon was awesome. Now I can’t wait for the day CDMA to die a fiery death. The one thing I’m most excited for is VoLTE and the possibility for a Verizon nexus with it.

          • brkshr

            They’re saying that Moto is selling the MX to the carriers for $350.

            http://www.androidcentral.com/stock-talk-economics-moto-x

          • EC8CH

            That’s what pisses me off too. Prices drop to free on contract all the while not one retailer sells the phone for a penny less than retail price was when it launched.

    • 2Berad

      If you look at the DROIDs (ultra maxx and mini) the software is Identical to the moto X… so with the maxx you get a better battery and bigger screen. I know everyone is hatin on the DROID line and all but the maxx is a real nice phone.

      • http://www.unappreciatedscholars.com/ Steven Shreve

        I’m likely holding out for the Droid MAXX and I will buy it with no shame.

        • Tyler

          I personally will have to see the device to make a decision on whether i want it over the X or not. For me its do I want battery life or do i want form factor/customization/onscreen buttons.

          • http://www.unappreciatedscholars.com/ Steven Shreve

            I’ve been stuck with the battery in the RAZR for two years now. I’m ready for something that can go all day.

  • Nate595

    November really? I was hoping that exclusivity deal would only last til the end of september at the latest.

  • dtraini30

    If what Taylor Wilberly said on Google+ was true, I have no time waiting that long.

  • marko358

    Well they just lost a sale from a Verizon subscriber.

    • D.B.Evans

      Yup, we have been wanting to replace a phone on one of our lines, and we want to replace it soon (before a vacation in late September) … the X only makes sense if MotoMaker is an option … that leaves the the S4, the One, Droid Maxx, or the G2 (and maybe Note 3, depending on launch date). The X isn’t even in consideration without MotoMaker.

      • RoadsterHD1

        Exactly. Tons of people are feeling this way. Moto is making a huge mistake.

        • Big_EZ

          I think anything past 4 weeks from launch is gonna hurt them big time. Let’s hope they are doing this just to make sure the process runs smooth, and that the “hero” device that was rumored has the same customizations and all launch at the same time.

    • Steven Berger

      I decided to get the S4

    • ceejw

      They may have lost a sale from me. I’m going to buy a One this month and see if I can deal with Sense and the hardware buttons. If I can’t I’ll return it and wait for a customized Moto X.

      • marko358

        A Verizon HTC One? That’s like a unicorn.

  • Adam Truelove

    When will the Verizon version get Android 4.3? Taking bets now.

    I’m so tempted by this phone, but its locked bootloader and non-stock Android bothers me. Non-stock (it’s so close to stock) doesn’t bother me nearly as much as a locked bootloader. Heck, the locked bootloader wouldn’t bother me at all if I knew it would get new versions of Android right away on Verizon. But not only will the non-stock slow down updates, but Verizon will slow them down even more.

    • EC8CH

      yep, the locked bootloader slows me down more than the 720 screen and dual core processor.

      • tyguy829

        Totally agree. Everyone I say this to tells me not to worry because there will be a developer edition. But, developer editions suck for 1 reason. Since they are expensive and off contract, only a very small group of people buy them. Because of this, they never gain a huge dev community with lots of roms, which defeats the idea of a developer edition in the first place.

        • EC8CH

          Yes Dev Edition phones are BS, a sorry excuse for openness.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Well, this is a Qualcomm chipset, so there’s bound to be a crack at some point especially once the dev edition makes it out into the wild.

          That said, you can’t rely on cracks. However, I’m not so sure you’ll need the bootloader unlocked just for flashing ROMs, since the kernel tweaks would need to be minor at best to get a working AOSP ROM.

      • Tirionfive

        I did hear tale about the MotoMaker version having an unlockable bootloader.

      • RoadsterHD1
      • Adam Truelove

        I couldn’t give 2 craps about the specs of this phone or any phone. Just give me a phone that’s fast enough to run stock Android and I’m happy. And I’m not a hawk so I don’t need display DPI in the 400s.

    • Kanaga Deepan N

      Don’t worry… Even if it came with 100% PURE stock Android, BigRed will never push update faster…

      First let us see, when will GNexus in Verizon going to get 4.3, let alone Moto X…

      • Patrick Crumpler

        Yeah. Those Google Edition phones are already getting 4.3. Another four weeks for Verizon, at the earliest.