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Moto X: Recapping Today’s Events

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Moto X day has essentially wrapped up for us, at least in terms of initial coverage. Tomorrow will likely be more fun, though, because we’ll have had some real time with the phone, and already have a series of posts in mind to show off everything this phone is capable of like comparisons and features that we wish every phone had. I’m enjoying every moment with it so far, if you can believe that. 

We are definitely hearing loud and clear the anger towards the price, exclusivity of MotoMaker to AT&T, and the locked bootloader, but I challenge you to think a little differently with this phone. Motorola is certainly trying to. They feel that the overall experience of this phone will meet the needs of a bigger range of people than most phones out there without having to put the latest and greatest processor inside or a 1080p display.. I know it’s a tough sell to many of us, especially when we have all been sold on the spec wars, but something just feels different with this one. I can’t fully explain that yet, however, I will certainly try.

In the mean time, we blasted out a dozen or so stories immediately at 3PM Eastern, some of which you may have missed. In case you did miss any of it, we’ve got a round-up of links for you below.

Now, take a deep breath, sleep away the anger overnight, and come back tomorrow to see what else we have in store for the Moto X.

  • StankyChikin

    The people who this device is geared towards don’t even know it exists yet…

    • NeedName

      yep! this is NOT a developer’s phone or a geeks phone unless you are about features over specs.

  • trwb

    They are trying to cut corners in hardware and sell it to people as if it is comparable to top of the line new phones. Looks like a gimmick ripoff to me.

  • marko358

    Any news on how long AT&T has customization exclusivity?

  • mule0331

    I might get flamed for this, but as I see it this phone and the new Droids that just got announced are basically the same phones, but the Droids have a slightly bigger screen. For that reason, I ordered the new Maxx. Moto X features with bigger screen and more battery.

    • needa

      i dunno why you would get flamed. way to go on the pre-order. :) its a bad ass phone.

      • mule0331

        I said this because shockingly this is the first thread I have read where people are actually seeing the new processors as a good thing instead of screaming that the specs are last years. Which I completely disagree with.

        • Monk

          I’m looking at the Maxx too… Just love that battery life… I’m waiting to pre order to see a side by side what the differences are between these

    • Sporttster

      I’d never pre order a phone. My battle cry: remember the Bionic! Wait to find out what others are experiencing, what the good and bad is and whether you can live with that.

  • Xcalibur1011

    They’re going to spend that much money on advertising and not see anything in return lol. Didn’t the rumor mill say there was a 5″ hero version coming out later this year? (which is BS because they are making a cheaper version of this phone). Nexus 5 or Note 3 please be the phone to end the android year on a EXCELLENT NOTE.

  • lame

    how much of that 500 million ad budget are you getting anyway?

  • Michael

    Should some post the Moto X on failblog?

  • reyalP

    This phone has last years specs. The biggest selling feature is the customization of the phone in my opinion. Yet, they give the customization exclusivity to AT&T. So for the other big three carriers you are paying a premium price for a year old phone! Bad marketing strategy. They should have made all carriers customizable from the start.

    • guesswhat

      sure with last years specs it beats S4 in benchmarks in lot of areas ..if thats what Motorola achieves with last year specs I dont mind it ..

      http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/performance-preview-the-moto-x-sports-a-great-gpu-respectable-cpu/

      • trwb

        Benchmarks are worthless and always will be

        • guest

          So why do you call this mid range device if it runs smooth and benchmarks are good ..so you are just counting cores?

          • trwb

            I am counting dollars. What makes this worth more than a $99 SG3 that one could get instead? And how do you know runs smooth? Benchmarks are garbage, real world experience is king.

  • guest

    This website is pretty impressive ..kind of liked it ..if marketed correctly this thing will take off ..

    http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/Moto-X/moto-x,en_US,pg.html

  • Ian Smith

    Look on the bright side! if you haven’t already, check out the Moto X website and watch some of the promo videos. actually pretty impressive stuff like waking up hungover, not moving to grab your phone, but saying “ok google now, wake me up in 30 minutes”. of course, that’s probably not going to be exclusive to this phone but if they market that well enough this thing will EXPLODE.

    also, the customization may initially be limited to AT&T but this thing will (probably) be fairly easy to take apart so buying your own colored plates for cheap going aftermarket route probably won’t be so bad. you can also put a clear case on it but probably not the best texture since it will easily show scratches & be slippery in hand.

    all in all, i think this phone will be a success. it’s good for android. i’m disappointed about pricing, but that’s really it.

    bottom line: i’m waiting for Nexus 5 which i’m sure will have bleeding edge specs and definitely have the latest & greatest version of Android – hopefully integrating these intuitive features.

  • guesswhat

    people asking for specs looks at this benchamrks ..it beats s4 in lot of areas ..

    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/performance-preview-the-moto-x-sports-a-great-gpu-respectable-cpu/

    • Godzilla

      Sure ok, but the problem with benchmarks is that they are just benchmarks.

      Ask any developer or computer expert. They mean nothing in the real world.

      • guesswhat

        ya I completely agree with you ..but folks here are shooting it down as midrange device because of two less cores (which ofcourse results in lower benchmarks) ..benchmarks doesnt say its low midrange device and from initial response from people using it the phone is very smooth ..So i dont understand why is it lowly midrange device and motorola desrves to only charge 199$ off contract? where samsung can charge 600$ for on contract ..

        • Godzilla

          I hear ya.

          Look, even if this phone is proven to be a tank and run great, I still dont agree with the pricing.

          • guesswhat

            ya I dont too ..A phone is a commodity that people want to change every year so nobody wants to shell out 600$ on a phone every year .the prices have to come down ..but I dont understand the overwhelming -ve reaction for moto x only and not with 650$ htcone or samsung s4 for pricing this thing traditionally like other oem’s ..

  • Jeremy Gross

    i would get this phone susidized if it wernt for the storage size, i need 64 gb and i love how compact it is and looks

  • Tony Byatt

    Second Paragraph = First Stage of Grief

  • BOB Dudek

    EVERYONE HERE MAY HAVE THEIR DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON BRAND NEW “UN-FLOGGED” SP DEVICES.. BUT DON’T JUDGE + or – UNTIL YOU’VE ACTUALLY TRIED IT.

    IF SO I WOULDN’T GIVE THIS PHONE AN ICE CUBE’S CHANGE IN HELL.. and BECAUSE OF THE :( REVIEWS I SAW..IF I DID NOT KNOW BETTER,AFTER 23 PHONES.. I PROBABLY NEVER
    WOULD THINK TWICE ABOUT AN X PURCHASE.

  • xlutch

    For VZ ppl…that are crazy enough to buy on contract…why a moto-x over the droid ultra? There is not a single reason really.

    • Alex Goings

      Better design, customization, bigger battery, onscreen buttons, sounds like it feels amazing in the hand.

      • marko358

        He said Verizon. Customization is for AT&T only.

        • Alex Goings

          But it has been officially announced that it will be on Verizon before the end of the year.

  • rotard

    so when does that htc one come out….?

  • LiterofCola

    Droid Maxx please

  • Jonathan Ly

    I wouldn’t even be mad at the specs, if the price point was there, but it isn’t.

    Dual versus Quad-Core, whatever.
    720p versus 1080p, whatever (On mobile, TV’s its definitely a major issue)
    RAM is on par
    Camera ~ on par (Varies everywhere still)
    Android OS – Perfect, seeing as its major competition (One, S4, DROID) are either behind or even.

    But its definitely the price point! You cannot charge a premium price for less than premium content. I’d take the locked bootloader, take the screen, take dual core, as long as it was available for Verizon in a timely manner (which it doesn’t look like it will be) and it had to be cheap.

    You cannot come out AFTER the Nexus 4 and be a subpar technical experience.

  • James Hill

    So much for Google improving Motorola this year.

  • Shane Redman

    Wasn’t it Larry Page that said this wasn’t a “Wow” device….seems he was spot on.

  • CharlesJorgenson

    Pretty bummed, Lower specs than my nexus 4 minus the camera and stock LTE. I miss having a motorola phone, their quality and call quality/noise cancelling is second to none but its hard to justify an “upgrade” to this. Costs a lot for what you get comparatively. Maybe its because its made here instead of in a sweat shop?

  • Defenestratus

    All the optimization in the world wont make a damn difference in a year and three months when the thing is slower than pitch because software has left it behind. People care about the spec wars not only because they want a fast phone today, they want a USEABLE phone in a year.

  • TSK

    I for one (take the for what it is worth) will say that I was disappointed by the price, but the customization, that’s awesome. Isn’t that what we love android for, the ability to have something totally different from the next person? Check out mycolorscreen.com if you disagree. The size of the phone looks amazing, I have a DNA now and it’s the best phone I’ve ever had, but it is a little too big. Being a decent size screen in a small form factor makes this phone appealing. The spec wars thing has gotten old too, if the phone works the way I like with little lag and takes great pictures who cares if it has 1 core, 4 cores or 8? I’m a Verizon customer, with one phone out of contract one under contract. I would love to leave but T-Mobiles coverage makes me nervous. With a 2013 Nexus 7, I really think that this is my next phone and I hope that it is as special has the reports make it out to be. If it isn’t I will have egg all over my face, but I will admit it. The other 4 people who still want this phone can raise their glasses with me now, here’s to the Moto X.

  • InvaderDJ

    I’ve got no doubt that the phone will be great to use and will do well for Motorola. It will probably be crushed in sales by the juggernaut that is Samsung, and likely even HTC, but it will probably be the best selling non DROID Motorola since the RAZR V3.

    That being said, should have been cheaper. $199 unsubsidized would have been ridiculous and anyone who was expecting that was out of their mind. But $400 would have allowed them some profit while getting a lot of people really excited

    I am interested in deeper reviews on it though, especially since the DROID line is essentially the same phone with bigger screens, Kevlar, and more Verizon bloatware. If performance is good on this phone I expect it to be good on the DROIDs as well.

  • NorCalGuy

    Maybe everyone is pissed because there was an article that asked us what if the phone was $300 or less and that was enough for most people to give it a shot even though we already knew every thing about it minus the price. And the truth is its a mid-high range highly customizable phone for the masses not for the top tier android fanatic but if its unlockable then it will be an upgrade to my gnex

  • BOB Dudek

    Its a Cross Demographic Appeal, IMO, that MOTO was shooting for with this X Device..irregardless of the contract price point,.and spec sheet ,its quite obvious..not the same old Droid crowd..and not intended to plea$e them either.

    Will be Checking out the adverts and media push..I think nothing like Ive seen before. (An Orig Moto Flip StarTac..owner). Look for it running on “Modern Family” ..type shows AND Professional sports broadcasts..
    Print > I.E., NY Times and the NY POST.. think of it of a kind of eclectic exposure.

    AND Please who really cares..about + 50 or 60 bucks. ( customizable exterior,nice display ,10MP shooter,2 g,Ram,etc.) difference than what many thought it would be.

    Try the dam thing out..handle it..run it through its paces,,it may even be a GREAT phone to make and receive calls (!) and TXT and play Candy Crush all day w/o plugging in that wire thingie.

    SO, Ask your average iPhone owner to list the specs of THEIR phone. Ask the
    average Galaxy S4 owner the SAME question. Then count the number of blank
    stares.

  • landon

    R.I.P. Kidd Kraddick

  • razorwit

    Besides this fiasco with pricing (especially with off contract prices still up in the air), I think the biggest bummer for me is that Motorola is not promising super speedy updates with new versions of Android. It’s not even shipping with the latest version. This is bizarre for a company owned by Google, but I’m sure carriers are to blame so speedy updates are not a selling feature.

    And if there is a Google Play version of this phone, what is the point if it strips out all the Motorola customizations that make this phone attractive?

    • bakdroid

      *facepalm* How the hell is a brand new phone to be released with a brand new operating system that was just released to ASOP a few days ago. You minions on here really shock me with your stupidity sometimes. There are what….3 devices that can run 4.3 right now. And 4.3 brings…NOTHING new. Hell not all the nexus devices are even running 4.3 and you expect an OEM to already have it running on a device that has been months in the process of making?!?

      • The3dolla

        U thought it brings TRIM support. Sounds good to me.

    • Guest

      Very civil, thanks. The point is that there is now no expectation of quick updates for this phone; it will be handled like all carrier phones, at the mercy of the likes of Verizon. With Google’s first Motorola phone and near vanilla Android, there was a lot more promise that is now one more disappointment with this phone.

  • Godzilla

    Motorola sucks now, its sad. Oh an by the way, isnt this phone pure evidence that google really is hands off motorola? Otherwise I cant see google allowing this POS to happen.

  • http://www.rogue-penguin.com TempestDash

    Its really just the price. I want the phone, but with VZW i have to buy off contract and I was hoping for N4 pricing.

  • easy1jay

    Well, the spec-whores won’t like it, but I find it damn impressive.
    My Galaxy S3 still suites me however, I don’t have the upgrade bug.

    Bravo to Google and Motorola on this one.
    Also to those complaining about it being 720p, you don’t need 1080p on a 4.7″ screen, you just don’t.

    • Dominick White

      Yes but for the same price point can get a 1080 screen phone

      • BOB Dudek

        Like the 50 dollar DROID DNA…is (was).

        Its not about SPECS ..again ..really..not that it does mean a hoot..but I will seriously consider this “sub-par” device when ..you can actually put it my hand and test drive it.

      • guesswhat

        its a trade off it helps with battery life ..also this is not pentile so its better than 1080p pentiel screens..You have choice if you want 1080p screen and see the difference and dontr care about other unique feature that moto is offering ..go for a s$ or HTC one..its good to have options ..I think we should all be happy that Moto is out of that droid branding and being confined to verizon only and trying provide a different option to customers ..you dont want to have duopoly with apple and samsung always ruling the roost ..I think Motorola being the underdog company ..they defnitly made some bold moves with moto x here..and im sure this is just the begining for new motorola under google ..

    • Justin W

      I want a scientific study into what percent of the population can actually see the difference between 1080p and 720p on a 5″ screen, at about 12″ away from the eyes. I’m almost guaranteeing it’s less than 10%, and more likely around 2-3%.

      I completely agree with you, though. I can’t tell tell individual pixels apart on my Nexus 4 compared to my HTC One – it’s just an unnecessary cost upgrade for the HTC One. While there are other differences (light, color) the pixel density is not something you can visibly see the difference in.

      • BOB Dudek

        You have to have the eyes of a teen age eagle…if at all.

  • zoloft_us3r

    Today was a letdown…

    A phone with “mid-range”specs with the price tag of a high end phone on contract is just not going to work out…Looks like I will be clutching onto my G-Nex and see what else comes out later this year…because the hell if I am giving up my Unlimited Data…

    • Render

      Of these two choices, which is more expensive:
      1. Generic COTS Hardware + Integration (this is the cost of an S600/S800)
      2. Development of a proprietary hardware architecture that integrates two new specialized cores that are not ARM based + all of the SW development/tweaking that goes along with it. On top of that, all of the new functionality to use these cores intelligently in a low power state and not burn your battery while providing smooth integration with the overall android architecture…

      Now, which of the above two choices is more beneficial to a company trying to gain an edge in a competitive market?

      The answer: 2 and 2. If you want a competitive edge, you need to innovate, and that is exactly what Motorola has done with the Moto X feature set and X8 architecture. This is the START of Motorola’s comeback (not the full blown comeback).

      They will likely patent such an architecture, which may lead to other OEMs being forced to pay them to use such an idea (lets face it, with KLP we should fully expect this always listening to become standard, and the only way to do that without sacrificing battery life is to use specialized processing). This will get very, very interesting and Motorola is far from dead.

      Google may also sell the Moto X at a near break even GPE…we just don’t know. What we do know is that Google acquired Motorola for a few reasons, one of which was the development of something along the lines of the X8 architecture. We also know Google makes money from ADVERTISING/services, not device sales.

      • Gnex

        You. I like you.

      • Godzilla

        A lot of if’s within that concept. I agree, but a lot of if’s.

      • zoloft_us3r

        The answer is 2. You are correct…but in terms of making a game changing move on the market in terms of being competitive with price, they failed. I was really looking forward to purchasing this phone, I really was…but not for $600 so I can save my unlimited data, along with the others who share the same “love-hate relationship,” with Verizon.

        I really thought Google was going to stay in the game with Motorola when they announced this device, I thought I would have been very revolutionary if they could get it on FIVE different carriers and still make the phone for around $300 off contract, but we all got our hopes up.

        But I will give you a +1 for your response, because you are spot on!

        • Render

          I really think in 6 months to a year people will be looking back on this move by Motorola as brilliant, but it will take time and reviews for what they have attempted to accomplish to set in.

          They essentially bet the house on this one and Google would not let them do that had they not believed in the vision (I know they are separate, but Google owns them and they effect Google’s bottom line).

          Agree on the pricing, but we could still have hope for the GPE, however I don’t think it will be till VoLTE is mainstream that we will see $300 off contract on all carriers.

          • zoloft_us3r

            Right again. Google would not allow Motorola to go all in on this device if they didn’t believe in it themselves. Maybe we have been spoiled with what Google has done with having other companies like Samsung, HTC, Sony & LG carry android software with different skins and features, and because of it, most of the DL community is seeking a stock OS, where others who are looking for a smartphone want something that is user friendly, can take a decent photo and is reliable.

            Maybe we will have to wait for VoLTE and the expansion of mobile networks to take its full effect before we can see $300 devices off contract.

    • guest

      for calling it have a mid range specs ..you should look at this benchmark results..it beats S4 in lots of areas ..http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/performance-preview-the-moto-x-sports-a-great-gpu-respectable-cpu/

  • thebigmann

    Alright everyone, back to playing with your new Chromecasts. Nothing to see here.

  • Ryan Gullett

    I would pick up this phone in a heartbeat for $199. But its not worth giving up my unlimited data. And paying full retail for this phone doesn’t make sense either. Because if I am going to drop close to $600 on a phone, it better be worth it. This phone realistically is worth $99 on contract and $349 off contract. Is that to much to ask?

    I currently am using a S3. If I were to get the Moto X, I am essentially doing a sideways upgrade. Not cool Motorola. You blew it.

    • guesswhat

      why do you think its only $99 worth?

      • Ryan Gullett

        I didn’t say its worth $99. With the specs it offers, you would typically not see a phone priced this high. If you go to Verizon today, you can get the S4 for $199. The Moto X can’t keep up in that department. Which tells me the phone is only priced at $199, so the consumer values it has a “high end” phone. The reality is, from the hardware, this is no “high end” model. And that is frustrating.

    • hkklife

      Not even a sideways upgrade from an S3 IMO. S3 has a larger screen, likely a better camera, option of a 32GB version AND a microSD slot and a removable battery and wireless charging capability.

      Granted, the Moto will have much better build, reception and battery life and much less bloat and closer to stock. But the average consumer will be better served by buying a discounted GS3 over the Moto X or a GS4 for the same $199 (if not less).

  • bennythejetrodriguez

    I like the messaging feature…But that’s about it lol

    • Justin W

      You mean the Active Notifications?

  • droidarmy

    I still want this glorious device.

    • Daeshaun Griffiths

      Glorious.

  • BOB Dudek

    Like a blind date for the Prom..Lower our expectations (specs.) and be amazed at the mediocre results..?

    I may still get this if VZW carries the32 model..and it better PERFORM like a circus rat on steroids.

  • Qwerty

    Although I’m extremely disappointed about the price, I think I’ll probably end up buying one. I’m not expecting the Nexus 5 to appear on Verizon. I seriously prefer the stock, or near-stock experience rather, on the Moto X compared to the HTC one or the S4. I don’t need a quad-core processor, 1080p display, or gimmicky features. It has more power than my current G-Nex and seems to work a lot better which is all I really need.

    • Under the bridge downtown

      I hope it has alot more then the GNex. That is what I am looking for. I just got a Nexus 7 tablet and that is the kind of speed/experience I want in my next phone.

      • Qwerty

        Personally, I feel the Moto X improves (at least on paper) quite a bit on some elements of the Galaxy Nexus like the camera, hardware: RAM/CPU/GPU, and other things. Ever since I got my Galaxy Nexus, I knew I’d have a hard time considering another Android phone with anything other than a near-stock skin. As powerful as the One or the S4 might be, the software is simply not attractive; the button layout even more so.

        What are you hoping for in the Moto X now that it’s official?

        • SA_NYC

          My day-one GNex was near and dear to my heart, then I tragically lost it two weeks ago, too long to hold out for the X or the new Droids. So I picked up a used Note 2. Holy smokes, what a difference over the GNex, I’m kicking myself now for not having gotten one sooner. The screen is far better, despite TouchWiz (which I can tolerate) the phone is much snappier, the camera a lot better, and the big difference is the battery life, oh my god what a joy, coming from the GNex. The point of my story here is that I bet every GNex owner on this site that you will find the X to be an ENORMOUS improvement in many regards. You will love it, any GNex person who gets it.

          • Qwerty

            Agreed!

    • woodraskam

      With very little work, You could root the gs4. If you’re willing to root the real concern should be hardware and Dev community. Gs4 has both in spades. Can’t wait till the gs4 gets the OK Google listening feature.

      • guesswhat

        it wont ..none of the current phone will get this feature, this needs special hw to able to do this functionalty without plummeting your battery. You might get an app to emulate the functionality but if you leave it on you battery life will plummet ..so it renders the function useless..the only reason this is practical it doesn’t drain the battery

        • Render

          Exactly, and this is what will become apparent and why this X8 computing is exciting/game changing.

          This will not be realized till people attempt to port this and the screen on/off feature over to another device.

          • guesswhat

            spot on dude ..you made my day ..i was feeling lonely ..i though im the only weirdo on planet to appreciate this phone the engineering and the coolness of this phone :)

      • Qwerty

        To be honest, I’m just kind of sick of Samsung devices. I can easily say that my Galaxy Nexus is the best phone I’ve ever owned and the support from the developer community that it came with has been amazing thus far. But I’m just looking for something else. The hardware the S4 comes with is astounding for sure, but, like I mentioned earlier, I’m personally not looking for all that. And the experience I’ve had with Samsung radios has been somewhat unpleasant.

    • KleenDroid

      Why settle for less when you can root and install the Google Experience ROM on an S4 all while having good specs and 1080 p? Unless you were dumb enough to take the OTA.

      This is not a device worthy of upgrading from a Gnex.

      Yes its a decent phone and will do well for the kids and grandparents.

      • Joey Funk

        because the HTC one is clearly better than the S4.

        • Tim242

          You forgot the /S

      • Qwerty

        I guess you can argue I’d be settling for less, but I feel like I wouldn’t be. I would completely agree with you that in terms of specs, the S4 is superior to the Moto X, but from what I’ve been reading, the Moto X has been very optimized. Although for now it’s nothing more than a claim, if I can get 24 hour battery life on the Moto X with the sub-par specs it has, I’ll gladly take that over the S4 which might have decent battery life, but I’ve yet to read/hear anyone say the battery life was that good.

        And do well for kids and parents? I understand it is technically a mid-tier device, but you might be underestimating it a tad if you’re going to say something like that.

        • KleenDroid

          Every Android phone I’ve used prior to my S4 has had one issue or another. Ranging from random software glitchyness to hardware issues. Root and ROM has always been a big plus.

          So far the S4 has been a very solid phone with the best stock battery I’ve ever had.

          But if this new X phone is polished to the point of no software glitches and solid performance it will be better than most phones before it. But we will have no way of knowing this till its been in peoples hands for a while.

          I have no doubt it will be a decent phone for most people.

  • bakdroid

    All I hear is all the “children” on here stomping their feet and holding their breath having a temper tantrum about these phones not being what they demanded. Waaahhh….. I am so sorry a major corporation didn’t cater to your every need. This is geared towards the masses who buy the “substandard” iPhone. No one cares what you think, you are the 1%. You want a truly customizable experience like Porsche provides its customers with their cars?!? Then I suggest you put your money where your mouth is and drop the $1000 it is going to cost to “have it your way”. The people on this site are just pathetic and unrealistic.

    • BOB Dudek

      Dropped your phone in the toilet.. ?

      DOES “just pathetic and unrealistic people “..not include present company. (you)?

    • Gnex

      ^ This right here

    • jak_341

      My phone is better than your phone. Neener neener.

    • woodraskam

      Yeah, how dare you think a company would put out a compelling product. Shame on you. The only reason this phone is going to sell is because of the $500 million ad campaign.

      • Justin W

        This would be different than Samsung’s approach because…?

        In reality, what Moto’s done is very interesting to say the least. I’m going to pick up a phone because I love the quality of what Moto’s done in the past with their devices (OG Razr, OG Droid, Bionic even though it was overshadowed by the Droid Razr), but from what I’ve heard from the tech blogs is that it’s an amazingly ergonomic device with a smooth UI. Android manufacturers have been tackling the UI/App lag by adding more power, when in reality, it can easily run on less power while being optimized well to the hardware, which is where Apple has succeeded and Motorola is trying to do the same iwth the Moto X, IMO.

        • woodraskam

          Because moto is known for their quality software?

          I agree that stock Google is the way to go. I would suggest a stock gs4 over the moto x. If the moto x had put itself out there with a more aggressive price, I might think differently, but it feels like they’re selling a Taurus at a mustang price.

          • Jonathan Williams

            A base Taurus costs more than a base Mustang…

          • Justin W

            Moto may not have been known for their quality software, but you have to remember that they didn’t skin this software by adding different colors/textures or any random icons like Samsung and HTC do. They took stock Android and made a couple of small changes (Active Notifications, camera). They didn’t change much at all with this version of Android.

            Also, oddly enough, Mustangs start at less than Tauruses do ($22,200 for a Mustang, $26,700 for a Taurus).

          • woodraskam

            Yes, it seems my Ford analogy was a terrible one. I still feel that it’s overpriced hardware, but hey it’s my opinion. We can agree to disagree.

          • Monk

            Lol I’d take a SHO Taurus :) I like my comfort

      • bakdroid

        And the issue is what? That is how the real world works. You create something that sets you apart and then you market it. It might not be the cue de gras, but if you market it correct….it won’t matter. This is a very compeling product to people who look beyond faked benchmarks. If the device works, it looks and feels preimum, marketed correctly, and receives updates (which it will since Moto/Google has pushed that stance since the Razr/Bionic upgrade debacle)…the masses will throw money at it just like they did the iPhone. Obviously you have never held a real job (like marketing or product engineering).

        • woodraskam

          Coup de grace, and I’m glad you can decipher my life from a couple online comments. A good advertising campaign does not make it a good phone. I’ve felt that Verizon has done that for years. Pushing certain devices ( read DROID devices) over other phones which are superior. I wish the moto x was the best phone as it seems to be more Dev friendly, but with the ability to get different software on better hardware like the HTC one or GS4, this phone is a disappointment. At least in my eyes.

          • bakdroid

            Devs are pointless anymore. No one cares about such things. There are what….1.5 million devices being activated per day. Yes…they all care about custom roms. You are the 1%…no one cares about you. Actually, with the new numbers of users its probably more like the 0.5%.

          • GetOverIt

            actually it’s only about 200,000 users using custom ROMs, not even a noticeable on any companies balance sheet.

        • GetOverIt

          Amazing that you are down voted. . . just shows how correct your initial statement about infantile behavior was!

          I’m amazed and appalled at the comments I’ve been reading about the Moto X. Motorola did some very inventive things and got rid of their bloated skin, and people bitch because it’s not x-core with 1080p or because it costs similar in price to other devices — “where’s my free smartphone!!!” The Moto X was never the cheap device. They have that in the pipeline. . . children just can’t be logical or rational!!!

    • Guest

      Why is it pathetic and unrealistic? All I want is a phone with 64GB of memory storage and a 16-core processor with a 4K display and THX surround sound that does my laundry and waxes my car, for $49 off-contract. Any company that won’t give it to me, well, they’re just A$$HOLES.

      • BOB Dudek

        Yep..At 21 I wanted a 19 YO girlfriend that was a 10..had a full time job.. and could cook the perfect Veal scallopini.. Instead I got the perfect Wife of 40 years instead..

        • LiterofCola

          You cared that a “10″ had a full time job?

    • moelsen8

      Can’t “have it my way” if all the good sh*t is exclusive to a locked down at&t model on contract. I wouldn’t be so incredibly disappointed if they also announced an unlocked gsm 32gb version that was totally customizable for $650.

      • guesswhat

        its not locked to ATT , Verizon tweeted motomaker will be available soon..I think the logistics of being to do what Motorola is doing is very complex, to assemble a phone in US with high volume is complex..More than trying to lock down they probably ran in to volume issues to be able provide these options to all carriers on launch time, Im sure everyone will get in couple of months time ..

        • moelsen8

          The 32gb is locked to at&t right now too.. And a couple of months time is a real long time in the smartphone world.

          • woodraskam

            If Verizon didn’t get the goods a couple months behind AT&T, it just wouldn’t feel right.

        • BOB Dudek

          For the first couple of months..Let ATT customers be the Canary in the Mine Shaft.

    • James Hill

      Well, most Verizon customer DO put their money where their mouth’s are. Those mouths are surely finding their way to better phone, on a cheaper carrier. Don’t call me a child, your not in any position to.

    • GetOverIt

      AMEN!!!!

  • Tonytj

    I cant wait to hear a deeper in depth review of this device. I have 2 lines eligible for upgrade and i plan on getting the white Moto x on release day. I think what moto is doing is what has needed to be done for a long time.

  • MikeSaver

    If Kellen and Tim-o-tato get excited about this phone, maybe i’ll get one!

    Just show me the battery life!!!

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      Not going to lie, I’m pretty excited about it right now. Feels awesome in hand. Love the small form factor. Lots to test though.

      • moelsen8

        Special droid-life show talking about it and showing it off tomorrow? I’m trying not to write it off here..

      • Guest

        thank you.

      • Under the bridge downtown

        It’s funny how a phone with a 4.7″ screen can be considered a small form factor. It’s evolution, baby!

        • decidedtochangename

          Well it’s probably also a function of its edge-to-edge screen and such.

      • http://Twitter.com/ContestsAccount bigrob60

        I’m really interested in the software tweaks that they are supposed to have made.

      • thebigmann

        I’m sure you guys are on it, but I’m really looking forward to a camera comparison. Despite the new sensor, the example photos I’ve seen so far have been … underwhelming to say the least.

        • jnt

          +100…

      • WickedToby741

        Waiting for the reviews. I’m intrigued. It’s almost refreshing in a sense the roe they’ve taken by not focusing on specs. Price is disappointing, but I’m waiting to see if the marketing claims hold true in the reviews.

      • Render

        Even if this one is “not top end” by reviewers, the next one will be…and it will also carry the X8 feature set, which in the future will set Motorola apart from the pack.

        I still think this phone will scream though, and for the first time in a long time actually make the user’s life easier.

        • Godzilla

          Even if it does, I think they totally failed on pricing. You want to gain market share with experimental CPU setup? Ok fine. But price it cheap. Its called penetration pricing. $300 off contract would have accomplished this, especially withed developers who can create cool stuff that supports X8.

          But nope, they failed horribly on pricing.

          • Bionic (yes, the actual one)

            The problem with pricing it that low is that people would get too used to the idea of having cheap phones with decent hardware that when the time came to upgrading and increasing the price people would not like it. They failed miserably my allowing AT&T an exclusive on MotoMaker…something sarge never told me.

          • Godzilla

            Sorry but no. HOw does that explain the Galaxy S4 being 200 bucks and motorola Razr’s are 300? Makes no damn sense.

            They suck at pricing

          • Bionic (yes, the actual one)

            Wow. You make no damn sense. You were talking about $300 for an off-contract Moto X. The GS4 is $200 on contract and the Razr also requires a contract for that price. Let me break it down for you:

            Off contract = more expensive
            Contract = sign your life away for 2 years but pay less

          • Godzilla

            What i meant by the S4 price was that the ON CONTRACT price is the same. Which in my opinion isnt right.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            If it performs as well or better than the S4, why should it cost less? As with anything else, you aren’t paying for the combined cost of the components, you are paying for the perceived value of the usage experience.

          • Gnex

            It’s sad how people are pretending to be Bionic.

          • Gnex

            For fuck’s sake, the’re not marketing this towards spec elitists who care about their phone’s CPU configuration.

          • bakdroid

            Much like the GNex….no one cares that at the end of the day you make phone calls on it.

          • Godzilla

            It does not matter who they target, it shouldnt be priced so high off contract.

            They could have hit a home run with people looking to be off contract, but nope.

          • bakdroid

            So…you know exactly how much it will be off contract? Funny, since no one knows that……dumbass

          • Godzilla

            I could have sworn i saw an article saying $599.

            And really? do we need to call names on the internet to get our point across? Are you capable of intelligent debate without using cave man genes?

          • Render

            If you noticed, Google/Motorola have been very quiet about the off contract pricing…not even announced. They are likely feeling out the reactions to the event today as we speak to set the proper price point off contract and on the play store,

          • Godzilla

            I DID NOT notice that. I could have sworn I saw $599 but perhaps that was speculation.

            Regardless, anything above $400 is too much. Seriously.

          • Render

            Price through AT&T leaked as $575 and $630, but nothing about pricing on the play store. The Nexus 4 was priced like that as well, but could be had for much cheaper through the play store.

          • Godzilla

            Gotcha, thanks for that.

          • NeedName

            This is a North America phone. . . why would they care about “off contract” when very very few people in that area buy off contract?

          • breadable

            Maybe I’m just desperately reaching out of disappointment…but since Motorola gave Verizon a couple days head start to sell the Droid line before the X launch, and AT&T a couple months of the customization, could it be that the pricing is set how it is now to not cause too much turbulence with the carriers?

            Most people only think of buying a phone from the carrier, but If this launched with a super low off contract rate I bet that would get a huge response and this would be bad in two ways. First the carriers would have a lot of S4s, iPhones, HTC Ones etc already in stock and paid for that people would not want to pay $299 for up front to take. Also, since the MotoX factory just started up about a month ago, they’re probably not ready for the rush of the best most affordable phone on the market yet.

            Maybe they ride out the regular pricing for a little while to ramp up production and allow the carriers time to adjust and drop the pricing later? And even then perhaps pricing at the carriers stays higher and Google play or Motorola direct pricing drops for those of us who think about these things.

            Of course, will any of us want the phone still by the time that would happen…

      • EC8CH

        This phone has to “prove it”.

        On paper it doesn’t compete, and taking marketing for their word is never a good idea.

        And a locked bootloader on VZW is never a good idea either so there better be a way to unlock it.

      • jnt

        Please let us know how the camera is – I’m liking this phone, but I don’t trust even the “new” Motorola to get a camera right. And I’m talking against the high end devices… i5, s4, One…

    • BRIM

      Even with the “mid range” specs, avid rumored “excellent” battery….there’s nothing special about it. Less talk time than the S4 even with all the high end specs sucking up juice.

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        Talk time on both is rated at 13 hours. And Samsung doesn’t quote “mixed usage” times other than a “full day” (which to them is 12 hours when they are pressed for a number), while Motorola a “full day” is 24 hours.

  • Chris Schmucker

    Moto X: Recapping today’s disappointment.

    • Lucky Armpit

      Not ALL disappointment… I don’t care about customization but I got pretty stoked when I heard there was a 32GB version. However, whether it comes to Verizon is another story. If not, it’s the Droid Maxx for me.

      • Anon

        Considering the battery on the Maxx, it should still be your choice on VZW.

        I’m just waiting to hear whether I can get car and bedside docks for the Maxx. If I can’t get those, one of the biggest reasons for me to go Moto is gone.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          I’d lean that way as well, but I much much prefer the size of the Moto X.

      • Mike

        Stoked for a 32 GB version? For Christ’s sake, my GNex has 32GB internal storage and how old is that?

  • 18footJ

    I’m done. On to the next one….

    Bring on the Nexus 5 and Note 3 rumors.

    • ROB

      Quote of the day!

    • tyguy829

      don’t forget G2 and One Max

  • maratu

    Maybe it’s because they’re going the Apple route:

    Sub-par specs, high price tag, but premium experience. Is that why we’re all so not used to this, because we’ve avoided it for so long?

    • Kyle

      I see that too…but I’m not convinced that this device will feel very premium.

      • WickedToby741

        YOU HAVEN’T EVEN HELD OR SEEN THE DEVICE OUTSIDE OF PICTURES!

        • Kyle

          Tomorrow we’ll all see after more info gets posted here! I’m still hoping for the best.

        • Exceter Miles

          This was supposed to be the brain-child of Moto+Google. Google is all about open playgrounds. Clearly, “a Google Company” DOES NOT BELONG under the Moto banner if they are just going to shove fans into a Walled Garden YET AGAIN. This locked bootloader crap got old 5 years ago.

          • bakdroid

            How many times does it have to be stated here?!? Locked does not mean encrypted!! Just because it is locked doesn’t mean there won’t be a way to unlock it.

          • Exceter Miles

            We are talking about Motorola here. Even the Merlin of Motorola said that developing the exploit for the Razr devices will be his last as the encryption Moto slaps on are notoriously difficult.

          • KleenDroid

            Ummm, Motorola bootloaders are encrypted.

        • PhoenixPath

          So you’re saying he *should* be convinced?

          I am confused…you seem to imply that because he hasn’t held it or used it, he shouldn’t form an opinion.

          “I’m not convinced” sounds pretty much like he’s waiting to see….over-react much?

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        Every first impression video has gushed about how amazing the hardware is and how smoothly the software runs. The only complaints I’ve heard so is that the screen isn’t as nice as the One. When Phil over at AC is saying that based on early impressions he would have a tough time choosing between the One and the Moto X, that is ridiculously high praise coming from him (he routinely states that the One is his favorite phone of all time).

    • decidedtochangename

      Maybe in that they designed a phone they can market well both in ads and in store. 90% of the people are going to see the price and then see if it “feels” as good as the S4 or iPhone. By feel I mean the total package.
      Of course we’ll wait for the reviews to see if that’s the case. If it’s smoother than my note 2 and has more features I’ll actually use then I’ll get one.

      • Alex Goings

        Thank you! Hell has frozen over! RATIONAL PERSON ON THE INTERNET!!!!!!

      • Dylan Patel

        It won’t have more features because we know what MotoBlur is, we have the exact version thats on the Moto X out and about too. They don’t have much because they went for a stock feel.

        • decidedtochangename

          There is no Blur. Besides the voice activation I can see being a game changer. There are literally times EVERY day I wish I could tell my phone to do something without touching it (car, couch and phone on end table, etc). On my Note 2 outside of SmartStay (or whatever keeps the screen on) and a couple camera options I don’t utilize any of the others.

    • creed

      I’m curious, what in the history of Motorola makes anyone think this will be a premium experience?

      • jmsbwmn

        Have you owned any Motorola phones within the past year? I had the Razr Maxx HD and seriously loved it. I have three kids, though, so my cell phone camera is the single most important feature to me. The camera on the Razr wasn’t total crap, but I wasn’t nearly as good as I was used to, coming from iPhones and all. With that said, I seriously considered keeping the phone. I loved how it felt in my hand, and the experience was great. I get that most of the comments on this site are negative, but let’s at least talk about stuff we actually have experience with.

        • Apostrafee

          Not to mention Motorola devices have fantastic reception vs Samsung or really any other device for that matter

        • creed

          The last Motorola device I had was the Droid X. That was such an awful experience, I swore I’d never own another Motorola phone. IMO, Motorola gets a lot of hype and then releases average phones. The RAZR series seriously is nothing special. Motorola had so many complaints prior to these phones about their POS camera and they still couldn’t get it right. I recently used the apk from the X phone for the camera, I will say it is way better than anything they have ever done in the past, but it is still slower than my S3 and Note 2 cameras. Even while on CM 10, the aosp camera is noticeably quicker. I would be willing to pay a premium for hardware that was pushing the technological envelope, but not for something that hasn’t even caught up to 12 month old technology.

    • kixofmyg0t
      • Alex Goings

        Lolol. Finally someone who gets it.

      • https://www.facebook.com/aaron.williams.125 Champion1229

        According to that the Moto X beat the rigged S4!

      • jnt

        The GPU is what makes the iPhone experience so smooth, so maybe Moto’s onto something?

        • kixofmyg0t

          Its a Adreno 320 on a 720p screen. Its naturally gonna perform better than the same GPU on a 1080p screen. But that still doesn’t explain the off screen tests.

          Either way people are being a bit harsh on the X. I get it though. Even I’m disappointed by the price. I’m not one bit disappointed by the specs though since I knew about them for months.

          I still tjomk we should reserve judgment until Kellen reviews it.

          • EC8CH

            The price is disappointing.
            The specs look mediocre
            The performance appear impressive
            The booloader remains a question.

            It will be interesting to see how easy it is to unlock this phone.

          • kixofmyg0t

            It won’t be any easier than the Verizon GS4 I can tell you that.

          • EC8CH

            Guess I’ll have to read up on what is possible on phone’s with locked bootloaders. I know development still occurs, but from someone who has always had the freedom of unlocked devices the thought of owning a difficult to unlock device is quite worrisome.

          • kixofmyg0t

            Well, I’m running officially supported CM10.1 on my old Bionic, and as of yesterday we have official CM10.2(Android 4.3) on the RAZR HD….but that’s unlocked. My RAZR HD was still running XenonHD 4.2.2 last time I used it.

          • Dylan Patel

            It’s locked. Moto said they were considering a developers edition like HTC (they extend out the bootloader stuff to all non-AT&T devices though)

          • dsajkf

            How can you be disappointed in price? Assembled in the USA. The wages are higher here. In Korea and China, things are made cheaper there.

            I cannot see how people are surprised

          • Ian

            Don’t worry, I can explain it for you. It uses last years tech, their CEO said smartphone prices are astronomical and they will be looking to fix that and then they intro a super-hyped device at current flagship prices. The same prices we pay for devices with 2-3 times the specs.

            Got it?

            Sure made in the USA means paying a little more, but you also save on shipping costs. Price is still a disappointment regardless of where its made.

          • GetOverIt

            it does NOT use last years tech — you clearly haven’t read anything about his device and show just how ignorant you are like most of these ranting idiots. The CPU and GPU are new tech and the GPU rocks. Not to mention the other processors MOTO developed that are all NEW tech and the new features they bring to the table. Even the 720p screen isn’t really “old” as it’s not the same pentile 720p displays that were being pushed.

          • Greyhame

            After realizing I wasn’t going to be getting a new phone today (or anytime soon) because of the price, and expressing a lot of disappointment in that regard, I’ve checked that negativity. The low prices were only rumors after all.

            I’m definitely looking forward to full reviews and seeing how well the camera performs. Here’s an early look at that:
            http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorola-Moto-X-first-camera-samples-showdown_id45966

          • sc4fpse

            Can we please start publicly shaming the people who keep sending in these rumors? I mean, I’ll give the ones who suggested these prices months and months ago a pass, but I know for sure that there were “tipsters” sending in these false rumors up until the last few days before the announcement. These prices were not decided 48 hours ago. No – long, long ago, so these rumors couldn’t have been correct for a long time now. Why are we not publicly shaming these people? I’m all for journalistic integrity, but clearly we’re not gaining anything by allowing these people to wrongly hype an entire community like this. Post whatever contact info we have and shame them. And then provide the tipsters who were correct with ultimate pleasure.

    • BenderBendingRodriguez0101001

      I’ve read a couple of isheep blogs and unsurprisingly they like the Moto X. Not sure to clap because android is getting love or scream because soon hipsters will be carrying around colorful Moto X’s.

    • NexusMan

      I’m still waiting to hear what these sub-par specs are? It is higher specd than an iPhone 5, which AT&T sells for the same amount of money, and is regarded anywhere on the planet as a premium phone. In comparison to the Nexus 4, the front and back camera are better than that of the Nexus 4 (and HTC One), the storage capacity is better, it has a newer bluetooth version, has a larger battery, has Always On Voice Features with touchless Google Now access, Touchless notifications, syncs your text messages and caller id to your computer, is contextually aware, can be customized to your aesthetic taste, and is available on all carriers….so how exactly does anyone owning a Nexus 4 trash the specs of the Moto X, or anyone else claim this phone’s specs are sub-par? Because of a 720p screen that no one thought was sub-par until Verizon introduced the 1080p Droid DNA? I am dyiung to replace my Galaxy Nexus, but the 720p screen is the LAST reason why. My Gnex’s screen STILL looks damn awesome. This phone is about user experience and a 1080p screen on a device that size is just plain dumb when battery life will be sacrificed. The differences are negligible, and NEITHER of these so called “high spec’d” phones on the market: Galaxy S IV and HTC One with their 1080p screens can claim 24hrs of battery life. Hell, the iPhone 5 doesn’t even have a 1080p screen and doesn’t come close to 24hrs battery.

      • jab416171

        The Nexus 4 is also a year old.

        • NexusMan

          Not quite.

          • bob

            Its a least half the price though…

          • EC8CH

            yeah… that’s the part that sucks.

      • James Hill

        I guess you don’t own a phone with a 1080p screen. Trust me, I don’t ever want a phone with the resolution of the gnex, unless my phone breaks and I’m strapped for cash.

        • EC8CH

          Resolution isn’t the biggest problem with the screen on the G-Nex. There are other more important factors that cause it sub par performance.

      • Richard Yarrell

        Neither will this phone come close with 24hr battery life. Wake up and smell the Motorola coffee they have to say something to get people to buy. 99.00 dollars would have immediately ended S4 and Htc One sales on the spot. They DROPPED THE ball

        • squiddy20

          And you know this because you’ve held it in your hand even for a few seconds? Riiiiight. /s
          Don’t spread absolute BS you have no way of knowing.

      • NeedName

        sssshhhhh…. arm chair quarterback at work here.

    • TheRobotCow

      That’s what I’m saying!
      I think that’s a winning formula. As long as the phone performs smoothly, doesn’t lag much and you get good life from the battery then it’s a winner.

    • Dylan Patel

      But the iPhone has the best GPU and screen on release.

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    droid life impressions? i guess it’ll make a good post for tomorrow.

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      I have a lot of thoughts to share, but need to get them all in order. Plus, I haven’t had a chance to fully dive into reader reaction, though I’ve heard it’s not good heh.

      On a flight back to PDX now, lots of stuff coming over the next few days.

      • Bowen9284

        I’ll summarize…. AAARRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH WTF?!

      • Daeshaun Griffiths

        as in weekend work? i won’t hold you to it.

      • samari711

        The biggest question I have is: What does the X have that the new Droids don’t? because if they’re the same things in different packages I’m deciding between the Mini and the MAXX

        • LiterofCola

          Exactly! all of the sudden the Droids everybody ignored are looking pretty good right about now

          • EC8CH

            Aside from the battery on the maxx I don’t see any other advantages.

          • LiterofCola

            The battery alone is huge! But you’ll also have a full 5″ screen, wireless charging….(on the Maxx and Mini)

          • LiterofCola

            The battery alone is Huge! But you’d also have a full 5″ screen, wireless charging (on the Maxx and Mini)

          • LiterofCola

            The battery alone is huge! But you also have a full 5″ screen and wireless charging capability (on the Maxx and Mini)

          • LiterofCola

            Battery is huge! But you also have the full 5″ screen and the wireless charging capability as well.

      • Mike

        Summary: Mediocre phone for an inflated price tag. I’m sorry, but anywhere near $600 and I’m expecting a 1080 panel and quad cores. I don’t care what their gimmicky marketing speak says about X8.

        • Gnex

          ZOMG MOAR COREZ AND SCREENZ /95% of the commenters here

      • djab

        I look forward to hearing the DL impression tomorrow after some more use. I am still interested in getting the Moto X and if it provides a good user experience in a great form factor, I’ll be switching from my day 1 GNex.

  • Render

    Sometimes with technology innovation and growth its necessary to take a step back to truly move forward. That is exactly what Motorola has done with their new line of phones and by next year the features they debuted on these devices will become the norm, including the low power processing to power various sensors.

    Rumor has it that LG is out as for the Nexus 5 (and that its now further delayed) and that Google is looking at Motorola (among others, ASUS also rumored)…coincidence, I think not.

    • kkloster

      since when is LG out of the running for the Nexus 5? every place i’ve looked has said that Google went back to Samsung for the Nexus S, they went back to Asus for the updated Nexus 7, they’re going back to LG for the Nexus 5. who is saying LG is out?

      • bakdroid

        Are these the same places that said the X would be $199 off contract?

        • kkloster

          I didn’t know anyone was making that claim, outside of comment threads.

          • PhoenixPath

            “I didn’t know anyone was making that claim, outside of comment threads.”

            Visit Droid-Life much?

            http://www.droid-life.com/2013/07/23/what-if-the-moto-x-is-300-off-contract/

          • kkloster

            Sure enough, Kellex reported that sources said it could be as low as $200 off contract. And I missed it. Sorry bakdroid.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            My suggestion is that his sources had confused this Moto X with the lower-end version they are planning on making for prepaid/developing countries, as noted by Woodside yesterday.

            Also, we still don’t know what the device will cost off-contract through MotoMaker, or unlocked.

    • Richard Yarrell

      LG is making the NEXUS 5 period..

  • BOB Dudek

    Like a blind date for the Prom..Lower our expectations (specs.) and be amazed at the mediocre results..?

    I may still get this if VZW carries the 64 model..and it better PERFORM like a circus rat on steroids.

  • Robotix
  • Benneth

    Waiting to see the battery stats…

  • Kyle

    To recap:
    We thought Motorola’s balls dropped, but instead it just dropped the ball.

    • EatUrCrap

      I agree with Kellen. I’m still excited about it.

      • Tom Payne

        You know Kellen is paid to write this crap right? This whole post is just an advertisement paid for by Motorola.

        • woodraskam

          with $500 million to spread around, there should be enough for everyone.

          • michael arazan

            I hopw Motorola paid for his travel expenses, because he should of stayed home

        • t3chi3

          Don’t like it? Don’t read it.

        • Stephen

          I agree. It seems they are trying a little hard to push this phone. It was hyped up, then failed to deliver (although no phone could have delivered on all that hype). I’ve never seen so many posts about a mediocre phone at a high-end price. It does come across with a salesman vibe.

        • EC8CH

          As someone who’s read this blog since the days of the OG I have a sense the opinions expressed by Kellen are sincere and not sponsored.

          I’m sure he holds back from time to time from being too critical in individual articles, but if you read regularly enough it’s pretty clear how he feels about most things.

          And for crying out loud he did one post on the boatloader and another calling out all the bloatware installed. Those aren’t exactly glowing endorsements that scream this blog is a paid shrill for Motorola.

          • Higher_Ground

            I don’t completely doubt his sincerity, it’s just that he’s enthusiastically hyped phones that turned out to be complete duds.
            After the thunderbolt and bionic, I thought he had toned it down enough to be fair to most of the new phones that came out for review. They’ve always shown LG some love even though it’s clear in the comments that just about nobody here takes them seriously.
            I think he’s just trying to keep an open mind, which to some of us might seem disingenuous because we all know at the end of the day he’s going to pick one phone as a daily driver and I’d seriously doubt this is going to be it.
            When they first started posting paid reviews they would say so. I haven’t seen them do that in years. I understand it’s their job to review just about every phone that could make its way to verizon (and they’ve reviewd several mid tier phones before) but they almost always end with their opinion on whether or not it’s worth buying. I don’t think we’ll get that until they post the official review, and as long as they quit with the “hey guys, give it another shot” tone after the final review I’m cool with the optimistic and borderline salesman like posts.

          • Tom Payne

            I was not trying to imply that he is completely fake and doesn’t believe what he usually writes. However, he is paid by advertising and driving “buzz” for this phone is important to keep pageviews up at an Android site. On top of that he does get advertising money from manufacturers and is give access, devices and tickets to media events. To think that he would come out and trash a device that Moto is putting this much money behind is ludacris. There were about 15 posts on this phone alone over the past 2 days. The overwhelming majority of readers are not impressed and judging form the DL’s talk leading up to this phone they are not impressed either. Yet this phone is still getting hyped and very few critical words have been written about it. A few of the posts from release day have been borderline advertisments. Just disappointing I guess.

      • Kamesen

        Kellen is not a regular consumer. I respect his opinion albeit with a grain of salt.

        The audience was hoping Motorola/Google would take a step forward towards an un-carrier America whereas instead they’ve solidified carrier position. They’ve fabricated a selling point to maintain the disparity between on/off contract pricing. The point to make is we still haven’t seen the Play Store off-contract, un-carrier price.

        Besides… Us Galaxy Nexus crowd still have time for an un-carrier alternative to appear.

        • http://www.AndroidAllies.com/ Max M.

          2013 Nexus 4

          • Matthew DiGiacomo

            You mean the Nexus 5?

          • chris420o

            5″ phones are for people with small penises

          • Ian

            Bet you did some in-depth market research to come to that conclusion.

          • http://www.AndroidAllies.com/ Max M.

            Um, yes? The 2013 Nexus 7 was announced last week so that would make sense.

          • Daistaar

            You’re probably getting downvoted because the latest trend with Nexus devices was to use the number to indicate screen size, not revision number. For example, there weren’t 6 nexus tablets before the 7 or even 9 before the Nexus 10. That’s the logic. A new 4 Inch Nexus, should theoretically be a Nexus 4. Also, correct me if I’m wrong but, the Nexus 4 wasn’t the 4th Nexus device. I feel like it was something around the 6th…

          • http://twitter.com/geoff5093 Geoff Johnson

            It’s not CDMA…

          • http://www.AndroidAllies.com/ Max M.

            This year’s Nexus 4 isn’t CDMA? Do you have insider information?

        • EC8CH

          I still really like the design of this phone, but it is a shame it hasn’t lived up to the un-carrier hype that surrounded it.

      • Clay Johnston

        I must agree, Kellen and the D-Life crew are all paid by advertisements, but if they were sell outs, they wouldn’t have the following that they do. I am one of the few people who are let down by the “reports” on the Moto X, but I am hopeful of what this device will actually be. We don’t know anything about it yet, really. The press releases lately on this are worse than the updates on what is going on at work from my $#ithead boss. We just have to let this creature run and play in the wild and see what it can/will do. I am hopeful for it.
        As for cost, did anyone really believe that it would be <$300… really?!?! If it was at the $199 price point, who would even take it serious? Yes, Moto has said that phones are stupid high price. Yes, Google is a very wealthy company. But should they sacrifice their income so you could have a phone for a price that just about everyone who was hoping for the $199-299 off contract price tag was calling a "Sure, I'll bite and test it, but I'll keep my Sammy G4 as my daily."
        This is a product that was manufactured to begin something new. We will just have to see what it is before we start pooping on it. Let's get the good people of Droid LIfe and other reviewers time to play with this before we all say we don't want it.

        • EC8CH

          Honestly I was expecting between 400-500 off contract.

          • charles rogers

            Well i was expecting NOT $600.00.

          • Yep

            EC8CH nails it. I think that, based on the overall tone of the folks commenting in the forums, that even priced somewhere around $400, this would have been met with near universal praise.
            This would have signaled that a shift was taking place, the uncarrier days truly dawning for us folks here in the US. You would have had a very respectable phone spec-wise at an equally respectable price point. No, it wouldn’t be bleeding edge. And that’s OK, as again, I think most folks are recognizing that the arms race in terms of specs is beginning to plateau. Specs matter still, but we’re reaching the point where they aren’t coming with massive improvements with each iteration.
            Android as an operating system has begun to stabilize, the rampant skinning is now more about differentiation than it is overcoming the shortcomings of the base OS. Concurrently, the hardware doesn’t need to be DARPA/Skunk Works level in order to properly handle the aforementioned OS shortcomings & subsequent skinning (& eating of resources).
            TL;DR – had Moto dropped this at $400 retail, they’d have all teh monies thrown at them.

      • Joshua Bailey

        I am excited about it, but until I have a chance to play around with it and put it through some real world tasks, I will reserve my judgement. Like most GNEX owners, I am due for an upgrade in August, and my contract is up in December with Verizon.

        We got time to make an educated decision when it comes to the Moto X, the Nexus 5 (if it is being made), Note 3, G2 and so many others.

        We have to remember that the Moto X was never meant to blow us away from a specs perspective. The device was supposed to cement Google and Motorola as legitimate contenders vs the GS4 and the iPhone by escaping the Spec-Wars and optimizing the crap out of the software inside.

        It is nice to have a 3300mah battery, quad core processor, 1080p screen, SD card slot, 128GB memory, and so on and so forth, but if you are getting damn near close to the same performance with half those specs because Motorola took the time to pull their sleeves up, pin their ears back and optimize the X like crazy, should it be considered any less of a top-tier device?

    • Kenton Douglas

      How have they dropped the ball?

      • LiterofCola

        Uh, been paying attention?

        • Kenton Douglas

          Yes. Can you answer the question?

      • Apostrafee

        I agree, anyone who actually expected the retail price to be $300 is crazy. That’s about all I can see as far as disappointment. As long as the camera is better than Moto devices in the past I think this phone is pretty good. On screen nav, great looking design, awesome new features packed in. I think people should reserve judgement until they actually play with the device themselves because as Kellen said he’s liking everything about the device thus far. Only turn off for me (which I knew was going to be the case) is locked in battery and memory. Other then that I’m excited to get this device in hand and see for myself.

        • Butters619

          Dennis Woodside came out and said they were going to bring the price of the phone down as low as they could. Lower than others. So when people heard that they expected Nexus prices. We still don’t know the unlocked price, but even $400 off contract would have been good. But when you say you are going to come in with low prices and you come it at $200 on contract, you dropped the ball.

          • Apostrafee

            I get that, if I remember correctly I don’t even think they had purchased the site in Texas to make them when he said that. I guess things ended up costing more than he had anticipated.

          • Butters619

            The site in Texas was purchased, but they hadn’t announced it at that point. The price comments just hyped this up and the price announcement just brought everybody back to reality.

            Here is my stance. If I were up for contract renewal, I would still get the Moto X. I am not though and I really wanted to upgrade my phone out of contract. If this comes in at $550, out of contract renewal is just out of the question right now :(

          • Apostrafee

            I’m right there as well, still don’t know what I’m going to do though my Galaxy S3 is in perfect working order…just like new gadgets really

          • Butters619

            Same here lol. My One X works fine. But I wanted this phone. At $350 I could have bought it and sold my One X to cover some (only like $150) of the cost. But hey $200 for a new phone! At $550, it’s $400 for a new phone I don’t really need.

          • Kenton Douglas

            What price have Motorola (not the carriers) quoted for this phone?

        • Ian

          No one has said they were hoping for a $300 retail price point, everyone speculating has said somewhere in the $400-$500 ballpark which is not that unreasonable.

          $200 on contract is what we pay for top of the line flagships with 2-3 times the specs of this device, software features included. Hence, our disappointment.

          • legaceez

            Over exaggeration here, not 2-3 X the specs like everyone makes it out to be. At most a 10-20% increase in SYNTHETIC benchmarks. In real life use this is pretty much unnoticeable. People make such a big fuss about not having the latest and greatest.

            RAM is exactly the same. GPU is exactly the same for most parts unless you talking about chips not even released yet. CPU 10%-20% slower. Screen resolution is similar to the naked eye.

            Heck these phones might have an edge even with the X8 chip system to even out performance.

          • Ian

            Specs != Benchmarks

          • legaceez

            Then what’s the point of having specs if they don’t translate into real world performance? Just so you can gloat about your bigger GB’s and MP’s??

            Do you see how foolish that sounds? You are falling prey to the spec war marketing machine.

          • Apostrafee

            2-3 times the specs on paper maybe…just saying people should reserve judgement until they have hands on

          • Kenton Douglas

            2-3 the specs? really. As far as I can see, the debate here and on other forums has come down to a couple of CPU cores and a 720p v 1080p screen resolution.

          • NeedName

            you must not have read many comments because, many have stated they expected a $350 or lower off contract price — clearly they were smoking something.

      • Butters619

        Dennis Woodside said they were going to bring the price of the phone down and then they announced $200 on contract. That’s dropping the ball. If they weren’t going to do it, he shouldn’t have said it because it got the price hype going.

        • Kenton Douglas

          What price have Motorola (not the carriers) announced for the phone? I must have missed that one.
          Re: price hype; I had a debate with someone on here about ‘false narratives’. You need to understand the agenda of people spreading rumours of $199 off contract and other associate nonsense. It’s not that hard to workout.

          • Butters619

            Moto still hasn’t announced a Google Play price yet. But carrier off contract price is around $600. And Dennis’s comments last night about introducing a cheaper X at a later time sort of eluded that this wouldn’t be Nexus priced.

            And I wasn’t expecting $200 off contract. That’s dumb. I was expecting around $100 over Nexus pricing. And it wasn’t just unsubstantiated rumors that made me think this. If your CEO mentions on more than one occasion that price is something you are really going to work on, then nobody is going to expect it to be the same price as every other flagship.

    • Chris Bailey

      Stepping away from it yesterday, if it wasn’t for the whole rumored price I think most people would have been happy with it. If it had appeared out of thin air at $199 (on contract) for a 4G LTE moto made smartphone with close to vanilla android on Verizon would have made a lot of the folks happy here… Unfortunately it seems a let down thanks to the hypebeasting… (looking at you Kellen) :)

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