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What is Motorola’s X8 Mobile Computing System?

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When Motorola took the wraps off its new DROID family of phones last week, one of the highlighted areas involved their new X8 Mobile Computing System that is tied to the dual-core Snapdragon S4 Pro processor inside each phone. They gave us a general overview of this idea that they had an octa-core type of experience inside each device, with cores dedicated to performing low-power tasks. But the dirty details were somewhat missing.

Today, Iqbal Arshad, Motorola’s senior vice president of engineering, shared some of the secrets with PCMag on the eve of the Moto X unveiling, since well, the Moto X is expected to carry a similar CPU setup. 

From what we have gathered from Iqbal’s comments, the X8 system is a cluster of processors and “then some separate elements of the system,” that allow for “intelligent, probabilistic computing.” Don’t be fooled though, the base is indeed that dual-core Snapdragon S4 Pro clocked at 1.7GHz, but Motorola has done some things to its firmware to make it somewhat of a custom job.

For the chipset geeks in the building, Iqbal said that they have “done additional optimizations on top of that such as optimizing the entire Linux user space to move it to an ARM instruction set, cache optimization, Dalvik just-in-time optimization, and we’ve changed the file system.”

But outside of the Snapdragon processor, they also included a “contextual computing processor” and a “natural language processor” inside X8. Arshad wouldn’t reveal where they got these additional processors from, but did mention that they aren’t ARM. The contextual computing processor deals with the sensors, display and touch interaction, but also may act as the main processor when the phone is in standby mode. The natural language processor deals with audio, noise estimation and noise cancellation

Arshad mentioned that the combinations of these processors and custom firmware has helped to extend battery life and improve performance, up to 50% better than their competition. He also said that if they didn’t have the contextual and natural language processors in place that they “would need two additional batteries.”

But maybe most importantly, Motorola can take X8 and apply it to any mobile processor because they have “decoupled” all of their customizations from the legacy CPU. In other words, X8 will show up in devices sporting even newer or more powerful mobile processors down the road.

It’s interesting stuff, to say the least. We were once disappointed by the inclusion of a dual-core processor that’s a year old, but if Motorola’s X8 system can live up to any of this newly built hype, we may not care what CPU is inside.

Via:  PCMag

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  • ®yan C

    Will this make it hard for developers to develop custom roms for the phones? Like not be able to optimize the two special processors?

  • Zaphod Beeblebroks

    hmm.. does this mean that theoretically this custom firmware with decoupled components could improve performances of older phones if we ignore lack ”contextual computing processor” and a “natural language processor”? Or these two additional hw components are THE KEY for success?

  • http://www.yepi8.org/ yepi 8

    I prefer the style of it, I’ll buy it in the near

  • eric

    Is it me or does phones always revolve around if Verizon is getting it. Is it like baseball , how it revolves around redsox yankees.

  • jnt

    Forgive my cynicism, but when I hear things like “best in class” and optimization talks, plus the “we’re Motorola so this will be good” rhetoric, to me it reeks of marketing hype and build-up before a release. What major Android device OEM hasn’t optimized JIT / cache?

    I’m not saying it will be bad by any means, but it could simply be underwhelmingly good… if that makes sense… :) I’m rooting for this phone, I just worry that everybody’s expectations might be too high. All of these “under the hood” optimizations could be revolutionary, but my gut is telling me they won’t make a noticeable difference in day to day usage.

  • https://www.facebook.com/aaron.williams.125 Champion1229

    Please Moto X have an off-contract price of sub $300 on Verizon!

  • Bill Anderson

    Really this is a dual core Snapdragon 600 as it is using the Krait 300 cores and not the older Krait 200…

    • Nick

      Yup, I don’t get why sites like this one are still reporting that it’s “a dual-core processor that’s a year old”. It’s running Krait300s people, just like the s600, and has the same gpu as the s600, Adreno320.

      Droid-Life, please stop calling this an old processor, last years specs, “just a Snapdragon S4Pro.”

    • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

      Where did you get this info from? I’ve only read that the new Nexus 7’s S4 Pro has Krait 300 cores, but I have not read anything about the Moto X using the same cores. If the new Droids from Motorola are using the Krait 300 cores, then chances are pretty good that the Moto X will also use the same cores. But the Nexus 7 is from ASUS, not Motorola, just because it uses the Krait 300 cores in its S4 Pro does not mean the one in the X8 will have the same cores.

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        Krait 200 does not support the LPDDR3 RAM inside the Droid Ultra. Therefore, since we can rule out Krait 400 cores as well, that leaves us with the reasonable assumption that they are using Krait 300 cores.

        Honestly, the CPU is a bit of an enigma, and the only people who know what is inside are the designers & engineers.

      • michael arazan

        We will know foir sure when the tear down is done in a week or so after it comes out.

  • Steve Swall

    I’m using the Bullsh!t card on this…

    • Kenton Douglas

      He said: “done additional optimizations on top of that such as optimizing the entire Linux user space to move it to an ARM instruction set, cache optimization, Dalvik just-in-time optimization, and we’ve changed the file system.”
      I believe him. Motorola have one of the best system level teams in the Android ecosystem (Intel being another). In fact Microsoft paid a lot of money to poach the chief system architect.
      Think about something like Webtop, which is a small/minimalist Linux Kernel running a desktop browser – that’s basically ChromeOS. Difference being they used Firefox, AND managed to seamlessly integrate it with Android in the same Kernel space. That was in 2010, and now in 2013 people are talking about when Google are going to merge Android and ChromeOS when Motorola had the framework 3 years ago.
      I can’t say this will necessarily translate into some magical performing Moto X device, but they have a very talented team.

  • https://twitter.com/paladaxar Paladaxar

    Oh and if this thing lives up to the hype (good off-contract price point and performance) and can do wi-fi calling on T-Mobile…then I’ll move to T-mo in a heart beat.

    Just imagine how long that battery will last if you use Tasker to go to airplane mode (except for wifi) whenever you’re at work or at home connected to wifi…my OG droid STILL lasts almost a week on one charge when it’s in airplane mode! (I use it as an MP3 player now)

    I’m gettin all excited just thinking about it :) (Not to mention saving like $70/month)

    THAT combo will be enough to finally pry me from my over-priced (and uncertain) Unlimited plan on vzw that has enjoyed a total of TWO phones worth buying in the last FOUR years (the OG and the GNex).

    Tomorrow could be a very exciting day for me, my mobile experience and my wallet :)

  • Jason B

    But what about the lag on the GS4?
    It has TEH 4 CORES BRO!!!

    You’ll never convince those people.

  • https://twitter.com/paladaxar Paladaxar

    I think one thing that’s going on here is that Motorola is saying: “Look, we agree with other OEM’s that it’s important to stand out if you want to sell a phone that has the same OS as almost every other company. But let’s stand out by building better hardware and hitting lower price points than the competition and leave the nimble, well-running stock Android alone. If we can get better battery life, provide a smoother UI/UX, etc, and sell our phones for half the price, no one will care about ‘blink-feed’ or whatever they’re calling that other stuff that doesn’t improve anyone’s lives.”

    And I like it!

    “We invented mobile. We have [80] years of DSP expertise. That is all Motorola’s unique technology,” [Iqbal Arshad, Motorola's senior vice president of engineering] said.

    • guest

      And if you think of it this device it is marketers dream all the features we know off quick capture, always on voice commands, display notifications, customized back plate/engraving ,color options make for great advertisements and with 500 million budget they will sell quite a few of these devices to mass market and nobody would care if it has 4 cores or two cores as long it runs smooth .nobody even advertises the dual core quad core stuff ..

      • https://www.facebook.com/aaron.williams.125 Champion1229

        The main thing that gets me is I can see myself using every single one of those features whereas with some of the Samsung ads I just don’t any real use for some of their features.

  • brkshr

    People need to learn to think outside of the box. This is a system unlike any other.

    1 processor – controls touch input, various sensors & display using low voltage (i.e. saves battery life). Screen time & GPS can be two of the largest battery killers. If this processor takes over those functions, we could be seeing huge battery improvements. (AP reported a 50% improvement in battery life)

    1 processor – deals with voice input & noise cancellation. Also low voltage.

    Those 2 processors free up a ton of time & power for the remaining 1.7 dual-core, application only processors. So these dual-core processors will have A LOT less that they need to process.

    The GPU is top of the line. So graphics are going to be just as smooth as any other high-end phone.

    • kixofmyg0t

      I found this interesting.

      http://www.anandtech.com/show/7160/asus-memo-pad-hd7-review/2

      Even if you have a quad core chip(even one with lowly A7’s), you’re only really using 2. At least for the HD7. I havn’t looked into it with my Nexus 7.

      • brkshr

        My understanding is that most apps are coded to use only 2 cores. However, Android is able to delegate tasks/processes to more cores than just 2 & that’s where more cores can help with multi-tasking.

        These 2 new dedicated contextual & language cores would automatically take over some of the multi-tasking needs of the Android OS & would do so at a lower voltage. In essence, the X8 is very much so a quad-core processor. The only difference between the X8 & real quad-cores, is the X8 specifically dedicates 2 of these cores to specific tasks & saves a ton of battery life while doing so.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          I’m also loving that the contextual core can handle background tasks, meaning that the CPU can stay in deep sleep the entire time the screen is off. That is a massive power savings in and of itself.

    • https://www.facebook.com/aaron.williams.125 Champion1229

      While I see what they are trying to do, it just seems there are going to be adverse effects that will make the entire system useless such as how do they plan to get a dual core processor to multitask intensive applications? I really hope it doesn’t come down to something like what happened with the HTC One X where background apps got auto killed…

      • Justin W

        You could look at the S3 or the Razr HD to see how well multitasking worked. The only thing that changed is that Moto’s optimized the software to fit the hardware much better. And, see @265e2066398e2ad51d48a755675cf0d6:disqus’s post just below yours.

      • brkshr

        Time will tell. If you look into the architecture of any CPU or GPU, you will see that there are actually several smaller processors on both of them for various specific tasks. The X8 is just continuing this trend with OS specific tasks. Dedicating a single cpu or gpu to a specific task or set of specific tasks, can streamline things a lot if used properly. It also has the ability to use more or less power for these specific tasks. As an example, our proximity sensor does not need a 1.7 GHz processor. It can make do with a 200 MHz processor. Save a ton of battery & free up the 1.7 GHz processor for applications that are going to need all that power.

  • GCurry

    Nice to see engineering with technical design emphasis, more than marketing emphasis.

  • bionic likes dookie

    droid-life needs a dedicated CPU to process all the horse $hit that comes from that Bionic guy

    • Godzilla

      Didn’t you see his long post saying he quit because of all the hostility?

      • StankyChikin

        lol

      • Justin W

        Nope but I’ll find it (and he’ll be back – he always is).

    • Bi0nic

      What mierda are you talking about?

    • David Marzluf

      Why don’t all you trolls leave bionic alone I actually like and specifically look for what he has to say on this forum

  • jak_341

    X8 specs. = trying to pass off 2011 hardware as revolutionary.

    • http://thebeeobee.com/ thebeeobee

      2011? wut.

    • Verizon

      X8 from Google/Moto = Trying something different and possibly better.
      X8 from Apple = Magical

    • WickedToby741

      Motorola really is becoming the Apple of Android, and that’s perfectly fine. It’s about time we had an Android OEM focused on the actual experience instead of shoving endless features and specs down our throats, even if it means last year’s specs and marketing gimmicks. To those who cares about those specs and features though, there’s always the GS4 and the One, but it’s about time we brought more iPhone users into the fold.

      • bakdroid

        Um….no. Samsung has taken the title of the Apple of Android with there refreshed S3 with a few new “features”. Moto has always been an innovator to true engineering mindsets that can look past the faked benchmarks of others. They know that these devices need to function as both phones and computers. Yet the minions on here will only argue benchmarks and stock, just ask the GNex people who couldn’t make phone calls.

    • guest

      who ever only cares about benchmarks should read this, what samsung is doing

      http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/07/samsung-allegedly-boosting-benchmark-performance/

    • Al-Burrit0

      since when did we have 720p screen dual cores clocked at 1.7, or a 10 clear pixel camera in 2011 on smartphones? If anything maybe the screen notifications…

  • enigmaco

    Just hope this phone lives up to the hype this is pretty much a make it or break it for motorola.

    • guest

      nope this is just the beginning, Moto x is just for relaunching the company and establishing the brand, This is just to bring motorola back in to the game and have people consider Motorola devices again as there next device, Make no mistake no matter how good moto x is it can’t beat iphone or galaxy series,.and im sure they have a road map with clear instructions from google where to take the mobile computing device for next 5 years and beyond. And google has some deep pockets so dont expect motorola to go out of relevance if moto x doesnt do well compared to samsungs or apple devices ..Also not sure if any read the news moto/google has signed an agreement with 10 ivy league universities and funding/working them to bring new technologies to market, they wont do that if motorola is not planning for future and just betting on this handset alone to be in relevance.

      • WickedToby741

        Let’s show down here. The Moto X can beat the iPhone because despite how low specced it may be, it still exceeds the iPhone in specs. Plus the only edge Apple has had in performance is through optimization. If Motorola has truly done what they said they’ve done, we could be approaching the same sort of performance Apple has achieved using a dual core. And the Moto X can beat the GS4 by simply being more iPhone-like, i.e. easier to use and brilliant marketing. Now I’m not saying it will do these things, but to suggest it’s impossible is foolish.

        • guest

          Sure I I hope it happens, I would be really happy if it happens. It would be great to have a American Android OEM making phones in USA in the top league and taking the position from samsung. This might not happen with Moto X, but with google backing Motorola is the only player I see who can disrupt the mobile industry again and change its course ..

      • MrBigStuff

        There are only 8 Ivy League universities.

        • guest

          thanks for the correction ..I read the press release again and it says 8 too ..so you are right ..

  • Butters619

    This scares me a bit. I have a One X that, as many of you know, has a dedicated photo processing chip. And it’s completely useless when flashing a AOSP based ROM.

    • Verizon

      Ummmm, the Moto X is running stock android or pretty close to stock. Why would you need to run a rom for AOSP?

      • EC8CH

        cause you don’t provide timely updates…. duh!

        • Verizon

          Define timely.

          • jose

            At least 365 days before the time people look at my phone and say “Eww, are you almost due for an upgrade?”.

          • Verizon

            So you went with the Stratosphere?

          • Larry Bublitz

            Six months from a major update? 3 Months? What would you say? It took my Nexus 7 less than a week to get updated (automatically) to 4.3 My poor, lonely Razr M is sitting at 4.1 (can’t find a Rom either) and I really missed lockscreen widgets and Daydream stuff from 4.2 that my Galaxy Nexus had. So what do you think a reasonable amount of time is for major updates? (like 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 etc.)

          • Verizon

            Let me know when Moto updated the Razr M and I’ll let you know when you’ll get it.

      • JonathonFlores

        for bad ass features and other cool things that google has left out that the bad ass devs can give us…duh.

        • Verizon

          Ok, fair enough, but a whole rom isn’t typically needed for such things.

          • JonathonFlores

            Neither is charging double msrp for a device on an “upgrade” plan but that’s our way of sticking it to the man…that typically happens.

      • Butters619

        I guess that’s pretty true. For the most part you wouldn’t need to run an AOSP ROM. You could run ROMs built off of Moto source which would be close to stock.

        Don’t mention this to CM or AOKP fans though or it will be off with your head. There are a lot of die hard CM fans out there.

        • EC8CH

          Just think where that would put VZW G-Nex users who want 4.3 on their phone sometime before next year… or ever maybe.

          • Verizon

            I have to giggle, in a possessed schoolgirl sort of way, whenever someone mentions the Gnex and 4.3.

          • EC8CH

            kinda like how I giggle every time I use my sideloaded Google Wallet on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus.

            tee hee

    • Josh Carroll

      Yeah, looking like this will get even less love from AOSP-based ROMs than previous Moto phones. :/ But I’m a skeptic…hope I’m wrong for the people holding out for this thing.

      • Butters619

        I was holding out for this lol. Was going to ditch my One X and move to something that could make it the through the last few hours of my day. And something that hopefully had some dev support because the One X dev scene is on life support.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          This is Motorola though. If they really did all of their optimizations at the system/kernel level, and it truly is decoupled, then there is every reason to believe that devs can get AOSP running without too much hassle. And once that’s buildable/stable, any AOSP-based ROM should be able to build from that modified base. Hell, they may be able to build from a mix of the AOSP, Motorola, and their own repositories on day 1. But, we won’t know until it gets in their hands and they start digging in.

  • NIGHTSCOUT

    Gimmicks=$ales

    • Verizon

      It may or may not be a gimmick.

  • JonathonFlores

    I don’t know what you just said but I want it….in or around my moto x.

  • Mike Hilal

    They’ve taken some good lessons from apple on this one. This is the secret to them having a 1500mah battery that lasts all day.

    • Butters619

      My girlfriend owns an iPhone 5 and she is constantly complaining that her phone can’t make it through the day. Hell even my One X outlasts her iPhone under similar usage.

      • Mike Hilal

        The one I thrashed on absolutely trounced my Gnex on LTE. I managed to get 14 hours out of it, vs 8.5 on the gnex. Go figure.

        • Butters619

          It was AT&T iPhone 5 vs. AT&T One X. Neither phone makes it through an entire day. But my GF is always complaining about her battery. And the two people I sit next to in my office both have an iPhone 5 and both plug their phone in mid afternoon so they can get some charge to make it through the rest of the day. Point being Apple no longer has all day battery life.

          But yes the G-Nex battery life was atrocious. You shouldn’t use that as you base line standard.

          • Mike Hilal

            Gnex on ATT/TMO was fantastic. Easily makes it all day (ie a full workday + dinner afterwards or 15 hours on moderate use). Since this is technically a VZ blog site, that’s what we’re talking about here. The CDMA/LTE iphone5 can easily hit 15 hours plus of moderate use on LTE vs the 8ish that 99% of the LTE phones get (razr maxx hd is the 1% excluded) when on LTE. 15-16 hours is what’s considered all day (as most people sleep the other 8). On CDMA only, the GNex can pull 14-16 hours until it’s down to 1%.

  • EdubE24

    That photo makes the red version look kind of bad ass…

    • Ian Smith

      yeah looks like it’s got a nasty case of acne on its chin

      • EdubE24

        Kids with bad acne are kind of bad ass…

    • JonathonFlores

      It’s still ugly though.

      • EdubE24

        i’d rock it!!

        • JonathonFlores

          I’d rather buy a Daewoo

          • Chris Schmucker

            Daewoo? Thats a little radical dont you think?

  • Ian Smith

    would rooting a device with X8 and flashing one of the custom ROMs we use today “break” the X8 optimizations or is this all hardware?

    • EC8CH

      wouldn’t the optimizations he’s talking about reside in the kernel?

      • Verizon

        Yep, it would be in the kernel so rooting and roming shouldn’t be a problem. Then again, I’m evil and this could all be lies.

        • Tyler Durden

          you son of a ….

          • Ej McCarty

            honestly who downvoted this haha

      • Justin Ellenbecker

        A lot of it would be but the change to the file system is a different story. Swapping kernels may not be an option without a custom ROM or a lot of tweaking. Also Back to the file system changes there could be huge optimizations there as well if they are using any form of virtualization between the cpus and the proper file systems.

    • lgreg64

      if its running stock android there should be little need to root

      • Tyler Durden

        I like to be in control of the phone. regardless of stock or not

      • Verizon

        Root is always needed. Custom ROM is a different story.

        • https://www.facebook.com/aaron.williams.125 Champion1229

          I just want root because this guy^ is a complete jerk and wants unlimited data users to pay $30 a month for tethering….

          • Verizon

            Hey, I have kids to feed. OK, they aren’t kids they are demons, but I still have feed them.

          • Droid 1967

            so do we!

          • Droid 1967

            so do we!

          • Verizon

            You have demons?

          • g2gsr

            Was the $5.2 billion in the 2ND QUARTER not enough! :)

          • Verizon

            They are really really hungry.

      • Blue Sun

        Ohh if you only knew the true power of root.

    • James Hill

      Could the X8 MCS be adopted to other Snapdragon chips?

      • michael arazan

        I don’t see why not since it is the kernal in the firmware that has been optimized. I can only imagine what this would have done for the snapdragon 800

    • juanwilson325

      My last pay check was $9500 operating twelve hours every week on-line. My sisters friend has been averaging 15k for months currently and he or she works concerning twenty hours every week. i can not believe however simple it absolutely was once i attempted it out. this is often what I do, http://www.Pro67.com

  • NexusMan

    No need to have worried. Moto X will be the real deal.

  • Wolfpack93

    I wonder if the new architecture will make it more difficult to create custom ROMs for the Moto X? On the flip side, how long before CM devs reverse engineer the concept into their ROMs for all Android hardware?

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      ROMs shouldn’t be too much of an issue since the stock software is mostly AOSP. Custom kernels, if they release source, shouldn’t be too bad either. The firmware blob is where most of their magic is going to be, and honestly nobody outside of Motorola probably has any clue how to modify it even if they could.

      All in all, it should be about as developer friendly as any non-AOSP device. So long as they keep most of their optimizations in the kernel, it shouldn’t take any more man-hours than what CM or AOKP need to get a new AOSP version up and running.

  • Robert Goddard

    Moto X: $299 or less off contract on VZW and I’m sold. Pipe dreams, I know…

    • tyguy829

      is adding unencrypted bootloader to that pushing it?

      • Robert Goddard

        That’s just out of line! How dare you expect that much from VZW? I don’t care about that anymore as long as it’s rootable.

        • Verizon

          How about $299 off contract and unlocked bootloader? Still being argued about the unlocking, but as of right now, it is.

          • Robert Goddard

            Not sure if trolling or….. You for real a rep?

          • EC8CH

            either way he’s more fun than Bionic.

          • Robert Goddard

            Tru Dat!

          • Bi0nic

            Can’t believe he believed he could be a real rep. rofl

          • Verizon

            I am deeply offended sir! I provide nothing but honest and helpful info. Ok, that last sentence was neither true or helpful, but still.

          • Droid 1967

            I provide nothing but honest and helpful info. SO this proves he does not work for verizon :)

          • Verizon

            LOL Actually, I’m neither. I know enough to be dangerous.

          • Robert Goddard

            Know enough accurate info? Don’t want to get my hopes up

          • Verizon

            I’m not going to go with any of the per Sarge stuff, but I know the off contract price is $299 and $99 on contract. The whole unlocked bootloader is being argued and as of right now VZW is allowing it. Ok, allowing is really the wrong word, accepting and twitching in a corner is more accurate.

          • Robert Goddard

            Any word if this will be available on Google Play directly?

          • Verizon

            That I don’t know. They will have to set up something for the custom options though.

          • NexusPhan69

            Are you the next Bionic? Also, where did all this Verizon info come from all of a sudden? I’ve only heard you being sarcastic and hateful towards Verizon. Are you trolling us? Why now? Why so close to the announcement? What do you have to gain from this? Get out of my head verizon!

          • Verizon

            I have no intentions of being a Bionic in any way. This is just because I was given the info.

            I’m still sarcastic, hateful, evil, etc.

            I have nothing to gain from trolling anyone. I like this blog and I really enjoy the comments section (as most have seen). I am certainly not trying to get anyone’s hopes up or get anyone upset. I was given information and I thought I’d share it. The info is general mind you, but everything I mentioned before is the info I was given. Believe it or not as it makes no difference in the end.

            -As far as the X on Verizon I was told it is unlocked. I have no info on other carriers.
            -The contract price is supposed to be $99.99, but I wasn’t told if that was on all carriers either.
            -The off contract price is $299.99, but I don’t know if that is through the carriers or straight from Moto/Google before customizing.
            -The phone should be released on or around the day of the announcement. Again, I have no idea if this is on a site or in stores. No idea if it is for all carriers, just GSM or just CDMA.

          • NexusPhan69

            I think Bionic has signed up for multiple accounts just to downvote you. I’ve seen many, many of your hilarious posts here and I always laugh out loud. You rarely break character and when you do it’s to give opinions, not leaks. If you have a real source, keep em coming. Now how about X Phone. Is it real?

          • Godzilla

            I saw a long post from bionic saying he quit

          • NexusPhan69

            That’s too bad. He was only doing exactly what the DL bloggers do. He has sources that he trusts and tries to spread his info exactly like I would do if I had it. He was just a bit too much.

          • Verizon

            Lol I get down votes just for the name.

            As far as the X phones goes I know what everyone else does.

          • Guest

            I wonder if Verizon is Bionic. The guy could have just created two accounts and operated both separately. It makes sense since now after Bionic is gone Verizon is starting to sound more like him.

          • Verizon

            I have no idea who Bionic is or was, but I know I’m not him.

          • Project Mayhem

            Oh my gosh dude you are such a liar. I’ve got a couple of your comments where you acknowledge Bionic and even Sarge. Pathetic. It’s starting to seem more and more that you are indeed Bionic. Whomever this ‘Guest’ is deserves some recognition. Even quickly reading through your past comments (whenever you’re no imitating Verizon) you have the same style of writing as Bionic.

          • Verizon

            Ummm, yea. Do I know who Bionic was here? Of course everyone does. Do I know who Sarge is? Yes, I have seen the forum he was posting from. Do I know either of these people personally (which is what I meant)? No, I do not. Go on your witch hunt if it makes you happy. Believe nothing I said if that is what you want. Don’t you dare call me liar though motherfuker. I take that sh1t personally. I do not and have not lied to anyone. So you can go fuk yourself in that regard. I hang out here and I make jokes and I take a bunch of sh1t from people because it is all in good fun and we are all picking on a corporation. It makes people laugh and I think everyone deserves a good laugh. The one, and apparently last, last time I offer up some information that I think would be nice for an individual here (because that was his question along with another guy’s) I have to deal with know nothing c0cksuckers like you telling me that I am someone or something I am not. I know who the fuk I am you stupid waste of space. Now go back to living in your mother’s basement.

          • Project Mayhem

            Calm the fuk down you emotional b4astard. We don’t have basements in Arizona but I’ll gladly construct one today and when I’m finished I’ll go live in it.

          • Veriz0n

            I just went through your comment history just for sh!ts and giggles and I can definitely see what Project Mayhem mentioned. I’m just a troll but I can honestly see the Bionic resemblance…and bro you have indeed talked about Bionic. Denying you don’t know him is not helping your cause.

          • Verizon

            I don’t know him personally and never will. I have no idea who he is in real life at all. That is what I am referring to when I say that I don’t know him. Do I know who he was here? Of course, anyone who followed info on the Moto X or X Phone does. Did some of his information match up to the things I had heard from a couple of testers I know? Yes. Beyond that, nothing. I guess people really shouldn’t offer information if a bunch of wanna be detectives are gonna be complete a$$hats about the whole thing.

          • Sherlock Holmes

            Way to go on that damage control. I can see you’ve learned by what happened to bionic. As for your explanation that is so pathetic. On the other hand, if you’re not really bionic then learn from his fuk ups and stay out of the rumor game. I have enjoyed your posts and the last thing I want is another idiot that imagines people who provide leaks.

          • Verizon

            Seriously? Like I give a rats a$$ what you want. You don’t even have the balls to use a regular account to attack me and that is truly pathetic. I’m not doing damage control here. I’m addressing a couple of morons that feel the need to come after me for trying to do something for someone. He asked a question and I answered with the information provided. Nothing more and nothing less. What happens? Cagney and Lacy jump my sh!t and accusing me of crazy bullsh!t. Tell you what dumpa$$, I’ll post what I want when I want and losers like yourself are not going to change that. You can go fuk yourself in Project Mayhem’s new basement for all I care.

          • NexusPhan69

            That would be hilarious considering they’ve replied to each other in the blogs before.

          • Guest

            Dude you were so wrong with that. LOL and you felt so confident in your other comment. Total loser.

          • Verizon

            I was fuking lied to. As I said before, last time I do anything. At least I can admit when I was wrong and I don’t hide behind guest accounts.

          • Bi0nic

            He’s not the next Bionic.

          • JonathonFlores

            All of a sudden, I like Verizon… Did we just become best friends??

          • Verizon

            I’m the best friend who owns your soul. :)

          • JonathonFlores

            I’m probably gonna take my soul over to tmo…just sayin

          • Verizon

            If it makes things any better, I’m also hearing August 1stish launch.

          • Robert Goddard

            Now you’re just being mean >:-(

          • Bi0nic

            It’s Verizon…what else would you expect?

          • Robert Goddard

            Locked Bootloaders, forced Family Share plans, and the rights to my first born child taken away….

          • Verizon

            Don’t forget the second and third born.

          • Verizon

            Actually, I’m being dead serious. I hearing launch right after or within a day or so of the announcement $299 off contract and $99 on contract. Those prices don’t include customizing of course.

          • Verizon

            down vote away, but I speak the truth.

          • The Now Network

            Hi Robert,

            Do you feel let down by Verizon? Well come on over to Sprint where we value all our customers. No locked bootloaders and all the data you can handle on our ever growing LTE coverage. Make sure you tell them Dan@Sprint sent you to get a discount every month off your bill.

            Regards,

            Dan

          • Robert Goddard

            Who’s Richard?

          • Verizon

            LMAO! “Come to our carrier. We can’t eve get your name right, but still….”

          • The Now Network

            Hi Robert,

            My apologies for the mix up earlier. Was this experience recent? We have been upgrading our network to better handle the capacity brought upon by the popularity of smartphones. ETFs are a nasty thing. Especially if they’re from Verizon. We cannot pay for those but once your contract is up we really hope you consider switching to Sprint. With the recent acquisition, we are more motivated than ever to provide the best network experience possible.

            Regards,

            Dan

            FYI: Don’t believe anything the Verizon guy says. He’s just a troll with no affiliation to Verizon.

          • Robert Goddard

            Yes, he recently switched to a Galaxy S3 on Verizon. He had an EVO 4G (WiMax) and was sick of the 4G phone fee for no 4G (Wilson, NC) and was stuck on 3G pretty much Zero data anywhere unless he was roaming on US Cellular towers. I am aware that 4G LTE has launched in my area and I’m curious as to how the service is now. I would have to have a zero $ down test drive to even consider switching though.

          • Verizon

            I resent the troll remark a$$hat. Especially from a guy pretending to be the Sprint CEO.

          • The Now Network

            LOL. I guess you just can’t stand me not breaking character until now.

          • Verizon

            You were out of character in your first post.

          • BenderBendingRodriguez0101001

            Both of you need to get a life. It’s like all you do is post on Droid Life.

          • Project Mayhem

            Ditto

          • Justin W

            While true, I enjoy reading their arguments. Made this day of work go by much faster.

          • Verizon

            So about an hour on the site is having no life?

          • Justin W

            Your no fun.

          • The Now Network

            Hi Justin,

            It should be “you’re no fun”.

            Regards,

            Dan

          • Justin W

            What are you talking about?

          • EC8CH

            Give on the bootloader but demand you get to load some bloat.

            Then we can unlock that thing and blow your bloat straight to hell.

          • Verizon

            And God said, “Let their be Bloat!”
            And their was bloat and everyone hated it…..but Verizon.

          • Knlegend1

            That would be terrible with the limited space. Bloat would completely murder this phone.

          • Verizon

            What if it was cloud bloat?

          • Verizon

            How in the hell do you get negative upvotes?

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            Just wanted to say, screw the haters. Thanks for the comic relief, and don’t let the http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19 get you down.

            Keep fighting the good fight, my favorite soulless bloodsucking fiend. :-)

          • dednikko

            You just broke my brain, Verizon.

          • Knlegend1

            Sounds like a waste of time bloat

          • Greyhame

            So f*cking wrong. Credibility, lost.

          • Verizon

            Yep, get it. I was fuking lied to and I paid the price for trying to offer info. It will never happen again and I’ll be having a chat with my “friend” in about an hour.

    • JoeTi

      I’m with you. If the x8 system on chip is for reals, no contract $300 is worth it so that I can re-up in a year rather than 20-24 months. Just think what the next gen sys on chip can do with a snapdragon 800 or higher in 1 year???!!!

  • EC8CH

    Part of me wants to believe… but part of me is wary of marketing hype.

    • brkshr

      I believe…

      • Verizon

        I believe I can fly

        • Sirx

          Are you excited at the possibilities of including a separate core that will be in charge of rendering a Verizon logo across a variety of actions, apps, screens, games, and dreams?

          • https://www.facebook.com/aaron.williams.125 Champion1229

            That would require Verizon to hire developers that know what they’re doing…

          • Veriz0n

            We clearly don’t know what we’re doing.

          • Verizon

            Cute screen name, but there can be only one!

          • Veriz0n

            Exactly and he is I!

    • yeep

      Can i believe in marketing hype?

      • EC8CH

        yes… buy and iPhone.

        • Tyler Durden

          all this marketing of a 5th row of icons,. I have to have one

          • Raven

            Just run Nova launcher on your Android with 7×7 icons.
            BOOM!
            Mind blown!
            /s

        • El_Big_CHRIS

          haha this is so true

      • Veriz0n

        All the hype very rarely meets expectations.

    • Kanaga Deepan N

      I believe its a marketing Hype…