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Verizon and Motorola Announce the DROID ULTRA, MAXX, and Mini

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Verizon and Motorola unwrapped their latest collaborations today at a press event in NYC as the DROID ULTRA , DROID MAXX, and DROID Mini.

The DROID ULTRA is all about being thin, with the MAXX acting as the battery workhorse, and the Mini is about being “compact without compromise.” 

In terms of specs for the ULTRA, we’re looking at a 10MP camera, with a kevlar back, a better CPU than last year’s RAZR HD, along with double with the RAM. The device carries a 5″ 720 OLED display and a 2,130mAh battery.

The MAXX carries similar specs, but jumps battery life up to 48 hours on a single charge, yet is still 8.5mm thick. Inside is a full 3,500mAh battery and 32GB of onboard storage. The MAXX also supports wireless charging, but it isn’t clear yet whether the ULTRA is also capable. We are leaning towards yes.

Motorola is also implementing a new 8-core processor architecture that they are calling X8 Mobile Computing. They are dedicating cores to select areas of the device, like 2 application processor cores, 4 graphics process cores, 1 contextual computing core, and 1 natural language core.

On a software front, these new DROIDs will use some of the Moto X’s tricks in terms of voice control without having to touch the device. You’ll see the on-screen notifications, though the entire screen doesn’t need to light up in order to show you them. They are also introducing a new camera sharing feature called DROID ZAP (hah, really?).

Pricing is as follows:  ULTRA at $199 on contract, MAXX at $299 on contract, and the Mini will be $99 on contract. You can pre-order today – devices ship August 20. Buyers should note that if you purchase the device before September 30, you receive six months of Google Play Music All Access for free.

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  • T4rd

    Surprising they went back to hard/capacitive keys from the soft keys on the Razr HDs. I don’t mind either implementaions as they both have their pros/cons.

  • Geekdad

    What’s the battery life going to be for the Ultra? I wonder if $100 is worth it for the extra hours? I already have a couple of external chargers thanks to my Gnex.

    • Jack Hoffman

      48hours is what they tote…

      It will be at least double what the GNex can get, for sure.

      • SA_NYC

        Try 10x at least. I lost my other-than-battery-life-beloved GNex two weeks ago and picked up a Note 2. I did everything possible to optimize battery life on the GNex, including brand new extended Ankers and keeping the set on 3G at all times; still awful. I have been pleasantly SHOCKED by the battery life on the Note 2, it’s outrageously good, and that’s on LTE. I didn’t know a large smartphone could be like this. I would imagine the Maxx will be even better.

        • PigHeaded

          I get a little over 2 hours of screen on time with my galaxy nexus. My wife’s note 2 gets over 6 hours. I’ll be getting a note 2 once I’m eligible. I like the multi window features and the s pen would be handy for my work.

          • SA_NYC

            You have experience with the Note 2 so I don’t need to tell you much, but I’ve been extremely happy with it in my two weeks with it. Don’t like TouchWiz at all, but overall it’s a great device–I actually wish I’d bought it day one it came out.

    • tyguy829

      they say ultra has 28 hours of usage

      • Kenton Douglas

        That should be roughly the same as the Moto X then? 2130 v 2200 with same internals?

    • Geekdad

      The Maxx might be a good deal considering it has double the storage and better battery.

  • Guy Pierce

    Is it just me or do these look like the same size!

  • jnt

    The form factor, or at least the shape, looks very similar to the Razr M, which I like personally.

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    • Jack Hoffman

      Specs are the same for Maxx and Ultra on that page, including the battery size.

      And since it doesn’t mention what the resolution is (just “HD”), it’s safe to assume it’s 720p only…

      • Kenton Douglas

        What’s the full spec? Can’t access the site from here

  • A.C

    Any word on how much the Droid mini is off contract?

  • Christian

    New Droids are up at http://DroidDoes.com

  • MichaelFranz

    website is live!!….well droid does is but vzw is updating.

  • chris125

    I wanna see how the processor handles things if its an in house Moto chip.

  • Charlie R.

    Droid Life is saying a 10mp camera while Engadget is saying 7mp, multiple times. This is all so confusing.

    • Robert Macri

      I saw 10mp on Engadget.

      • NexusPhan69

        Its 10mp. And likely the exact same as in the Moto X. I’m really worried that this is (for a while at least) Verizon’s version of the Moto X.

        • Kenton Douglas

          Nah. Just look at it as a 4 phone lineup: 4.3, 4.7 (Moto x), 5, and 5 with a big ass battery

      • Charlie R.

        They just fixed it. It said 7mp on both the hands-on and announcement pages for the longest.

  • Joshua Bailey

    I don’t know why, but all of a sudden I feel like the Verizon Moto X may not happen anytime soon/ever. I know there were FCC filings for the VZW Moto X, but weren’t there FCC filings for a VZW Nexus One in 2010 that never was released?

    This frightens me a little bit.

    • socarwolverine

      I think what is more likely is that everyone expecting this X8 processor in the X will be disappointed and will infact get the dual core that has been reported. I think the Moto X will happen, but it will indeed be a mid-range offering, at least initially. Maybe a true Halo Moto X will arrive later.

      • NexusPhan69

        They are advertising this as dual core. We need the press to run some benchmarks to confirm they match up with the Moto X leaked benchmarks.

        • Ted

          The Moto X will have the same X8 chip. Promise.

          • NexusPhan69

            Awesome.

          • Ted

            And Verizon will definitely be carrying the X.

            Bionic btw, is starting to come off as a troll.. To be disappointed by these Droids tells me he never was or is a Motorola fan. Why “Sarge” gave you any type of information is beyond me, considering how one minute your talking up the devices, the next your talking down.

            From personal use with all these devices already, I can tell you that they are nothing to be disappointed with. I went into my use with them with low expectations based on rumor mill and blogs, but when I finally got a chance to use them, let me tell you, the experience was the smoothest, fluid, fastest I have ever used in android to date.

          • socarwolverine

            I’ll hold you to that. Cause I’d love a contract free flagship phone while I maintain my unlimited data.

          • T4rd

            Thanks for confirming that, anonymous guy on the internet!

          • jose

            Just got off the phone with Sarge. Yup, it’s officially confirmed. X8 chips for all.

          • Kenton Douglas

            It’ll have the same everything apart from screen size (4.7″) and battery (2200)

  • MichaelFranz

    this looks better and better, while moto x is probably going to be the same, these may be better just because of expandable storage

    • Jack Hoffman

      As long as you don’t mind almost no updates and hardware nav buttons…

    • Franklin Ramsey

      No expandable storage options listed on either under the specs at Verizon’s website.

      • MichaelFranz

        yea i found that out after my post…womp womp

        still 32Gb, formatted to maybe 29 is still better then 16 formatted to 12. I know i still have unlimited data so getting one of these non SD card phones may make me use cloud storage for pictures and such, but its just insane they dont include it. Nexus i get, but everything else…im kind of baffled. Considering most carriers have tiered data plans, especially verizon in this case, the lack of storage means you may have to rely on cloud storage for pictures or music. This meaning that you then have to use that data (unless on wifi) to access these things. Unless VZW gave you a cloud storage option and didnt charge data for it

        • Franklin Ramsey

          You just pointed out the reason Carriers wouldn’t want SD card slots on these devices. If the storage isn’t there, you go to cloud storage which eats through data faster and on Tiered data plans equals overage charges, making them more money.

  • jnt

    Could someone educate this camera-ignorant guy about the significance (if any) of the f2.4 lens vs the other top dogs out right now?

    • bionicwaffle

      That has to do with how large the opening is to let light in. The smaller the number the larger the opening (which is better because that lets more light in). f2.4 is not impressive. That’s a minimum. I think the iPhone 5 is still f2.4 though but the HTC One X and HTC One are both f2.0 I think, which is much better. I think the GS4 is f2.2 but I’m not sure about that. The HTC One beats them all as far as the light it can let in not only because of the f2.0 but also due to having three sensors working in parallel.

      • jnt

        Thanks for that. I know the 5 can still take some great pictures, so I guess we’ll have to wait and see how they handle the software side of it… though given Moto’s history, I’m extremely skeptical of their ability to produce a good camera experience.

      • Kenton Douglas

        but, but they’re supposed to be using this new Clear Pixel (non-Bayer) filter to improve low light performance. No?

        • bionicwaffle

          I don’t know the specifics. I was disappointed because I thought we may see a f2.0 lens. I thought I saw somewhere that moto was working with Nikon on new camera technology. I would at least expect this is a BSI sensor. Maybe the “Clear Pixel” thing is the new development that came from Nikon and makes up for the smaller f2.4 size.

          • Kenton Douglas

            Maybe it is. We should hopefully get more details next week.

  • http://www.vinsonimages.com yamaha83

    i cant imagine Moto launching a $300 moto X on verizon with these phones coming around the same time… they would just be shooting themselves in the foot…

  • socarwolverine

    720p OLED display, I thought they would’ve shot for higher

    • SeanPlunk

      Yeah, but not pentile. That screen will look great. I’m more excited for the Moto X now.

      • ddpacino

        High hopes for Moto X, and those notification popups are Sips to the battery with OLED! With X8, even MORE excited!!!

        Bring on August 1st!

        • bionicwaffle

          OLED is only lower power usage on dark or mostly dark displays. LCD uses the same power no matter what’s on the display. OLED only powers the lit pixels. Guess which takes more power, telling a pixel what color to turn or making it light up? That’s right, lighting it up. So LCD only has to power a common light for all pixels. With OLED *EACH* pixel has to produce its own light. So where LCD has one or two backlights an OLED has to power 921,600 lights asuming a typical web page or something.

          The advantage OLED has is it doesn’t take any power to display true black. The problem is most people have a lot of white display on their phone for a lot of things, books, web pages, etc. White is takes the most power for an OLED display. Since most OLED displays are Pentile they can’t do a very good white either. LCD does great whites but can’t do as good a black. For me the poor white is more noticeable. These should have good white since they’re not pentile.

          In all fairness OLED has the advantage of much higher contrast ratios. I just don’t think that matters on a phone compared to how much brightness does matter when I walk outside after work on a sunny day.

          The OLED display may have let Moto make the phones thinner because no backlight is needed. That’s the only reason I can think of that they chose OLED – that and the Active Display notification thing which is not a replacement for a notification LED. I sure hope it still has a notification LED.

    • bionicwaffle

      There’s no reason for higher resolution at 5″ and smaller. 720p is a great choice. 1080 requires more power with no benefit at this size. It will also help that this is not a pentile display. Unfortunately that will hurt battery life a little. They should have use LCD!!! Better brightness and better battery life at a given brightness. Yeah, they would have had to drop the Active display notification feature but who cares. This better have a real notification LED because from what I’ve seen the Active Display thing only stays on for a short time. That’s not a notification LED replacement Moto!!!

      • socarwolverine

        You make a good point, and it does have a notification LED, saw it on a hands on pic from another tech site.

  • SeanPlunk

    Wow, 5″ 720p AMOLED – NOT PENTILE! That screen is going to look fantastic. The Moto X will probably have a 4.7″ version. That’s fantastic news.

    • bionicwaffle

      Don’t be so excited. This will not be as bright as an LCD and it will use more power most of the time than an LCD would. :(

      True, not being Pentile will give better color, especially white I expect, but having Pentile helps battery life because there are less sub-pixels to power in the display.

  • Tim Buchanan

    Currently unanswered questions: 1. Internal storage size? 2. SD card support? 3. NFC? I 4. Wireless charging? 5. Android version? They really skimped on the details here.

    • NexusPhan69

      Screen res?

      • socarwolverine

        720p

        • hkklife

          BGR is reporting Snapdragon 800 , 2Gb RAM and 1080P screen.

          • socarwolverine

            they are wrong, vzw posted specs

          • GuidZilla

            But BGR is always RIGHT!….. After they fix all their mistakes.

          • socarwolverine

            Actually, I can’t find it on their site, thougth I had. Everyone else is saying 720p, and it definitely isn’t the Snapdragon, it’s an inhous moto designed chip.

      • kixofmyg0t

        1080p AMOLED. non pentile.

    • MichaelFranz

      everything is developing….i heard the press was only 15 minutes long, plus Kellex is in SF and not NYC where it was happening.

    • kixofmyg0t

      Depends on which Ultra, yes, yes, yes Max only, 4.2.2.

    • Justin W

      1. Should be (based on previous years) 16Gb for Ultra, 32Gb for Maxx.
      2. SD – Likely, again, based on previous years.
      3. Yes
      4. Believed to be Ultra and Mini, not sure about Maxx
      5. 4.2.2

    • Christian

      http://DroidDoes.com – it’ll lead you to the specs page for each device

    • aQuickBit

      You could, ya know go to Verizon’s site and see it for yourself.

  • David

    I’m not a fan of the look of the kevlar, but I guess it’s functional. I like the capacitive buttons and the relatively simple design. It’s not a great looker, but it’s not bad either – not a bad trade-off for size or battery life, if that’s what you’re looking for. The specs sound decent. Until DL gets it’s hands on one to test I won’t take this off my list of possible next phones.

    • bionicwaffle

      I don’t get this. Many say Moto phones are ugly and it’s a personal preference but I guess I’m the only one that thinks an iPhone looks like a child’s play toy. I think my Maxx HD looks awesome, solid, and well made. I think these look better, no metal around the perimeter to interfere with radio signals!!!

  • http://twitter.com/geoff5093 Geoff Johnson

    I want the Moto X with the battery of the MAXX

    • LiterofCola

      Not gonna happen I imagine

      • jbdan

        One can….dream/hope!

    • Asmodai

      I want a Ferrari with the price of a Fit.

    • NexusPhan69

      Question. Does (2200mAh/3500mAh) * 48 hours = 30 Hours of battery life (minimum with the smaller screen) on the Moto X? I hope so!

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        Quite possibly. They didn’t really state any numbers for battery life except for the Maxx.

        I have the oddest feeling that the Mini is nigh-identical to the Moto X.

        • NexusPhan69

          The oddest feeling I have is that Verizon will not be seeing the Moto X for a long time.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            I would be downright pissed if Verizon delays their launch of the Moto X because of these.

          • NexusPhan69

            It’s Verizon and every feature of the Moto X is included in these. 720p, 2GB ram, X8 processor, 10 mp clear pixel camera, always listening, partial screen on notifications. This is the Moto X for Verizon. I just purchased a T-mobile pre-paid SIM card for $0.99 I’m going to give it a try. I can’t wait for Verizon so I’m taking proactive countermeasures.

          • onDroid

            Except we’ve already seen all four Verizon models pass the FCC. If they were going to Droid brand the Moto X and release it as the Mini then there would only be three models going through the FCC.

          • NexusPhan69

            Look at the Verizon HTC one that passed by the FCC. That hasn’t worked out too well yet either. Proactive countermeasures.

          • onDroid

            Actually the HTC One just passed the FCC on the 9th. It’s not like it passed with the other carriers a few months ago. The Verizon Moto X passed the FCC at the same time as AT&T and T mobiles.

          • NexusPhan69

            Valid point. Still. Proactive countermeasures against Verizon. If they do not announced a released date for Verizon within 24 hours of announcing the general release date, I’m done.

          • onDroid

            With all the weight that Google is putting behind this phone I’m confident it will release the same time as other carriers. Given Verizon’s track record I may eat my words but I have a feeling this device is special.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            Biggest difference I see is the overall design, capacitive vs on-screen buttons, and a larger screen.

            A Moto X for Verizon has already passed through the FCC, so its coming, just don’t know when.

          • NexusPhan69

            External shell design is a minor change compared to all the internals. Testing would all be the same. I’m now almost positive there will be a delay for a verizon launch. I’m just getting everything in place to jump ship if I have to. But, I really really really hope I’m wrong.

          • Dave

            I could be wrong, but I thought always listening was a SD800 feature….

          • NexusPhan69

            Correct. I have more questions than now than before the press release! What is actually in there?!!

          • onDroid

            The Verizon model has already passed through the FCC. While this isn’t a guarantee that it will be here soon historically once a phone passes through the FCC it arrives on the network fairly soon. Given the timing of the new Droid line I tend to agree with you though. Verizon isn’t going to want to release the X so close to the other Moto phones but if Google ends up selling the Verizon variant unlocked through the play store there isn’t much Verizon can do about it.

          • NexusPhan69

            So has the HTC one. And look how that’s going.

          • LionStone

            Just read that VZW will release the Moto X simultaneously with the Droid line up, or within a few days…and that it will have a $299. price…we shall see.

            http://www.phonearena.com/news/Exclusive-Motorola-Moto-X-to-be-released-somewhat-simultaneously-with-new-DROIDs_id45629

      • Jarren

        Different processor, different screen and resolution, potentially different radios, different gpu, etc…. Unfortunately I’d say that’s a resounding no.

        • tyguy829

          uhhh same processor, same screen resolution (but .3inch smaller=less consumption), same gpu, and probably same radios, but not confirmed.
          so that’s a resounding pretty much, especially since the ultra officially has a 2130mah battery rated for 28 hours of use, but still has a bigger screen than the x.

          • NexusPhan69

            Hey! I didn’t see the 28 hours. My math is spot on in that case. Thanks.

          • tyguy829

            Yep, nice job. btw it’s on the vzw page for the phone. just hit the specs tab, then it’s in the right hand column http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=6973

          • NexusPhan69

            I still can’t access that page. It bumps me back to the device selection page. Balls!!!!

          • tyguy829

            lol that’s weird, it works for me. you can just go to droiddoes.com and everything is there

          • NexusPhan69

            I can only see the home page. As soon as I click on anything, back to the device selection page. So frustrating.

          • LionStone

            I got right in…and immediately a chat box popped up and someone wanted to take my order! There are on it!

      • http://twitter.com/geoff5093 Geoff Johnson

        Not really, since the screen is off most of the time.

    • juanjeremy2012

      you want what you cant have. if you want a high end phone ya gotta spend baller bux

    • bionicwaffle

      I don’t see why anyone would want the Moto X at all. No MicroSD, on screen buttons wasting screen real-estate – not to mention the smaller battery.

  • palomosan

    They all look ugly to me, Verizon should stop with the Droid branding already.

    • jbdan

      Have to agree…. +100. We all have our ‘aesthetic’ preferences though. Crazily enough, the Droid line does appeal to quite a few.

  • Dan

    LOL

  • sc4fpse

    Their press conference literally lasted less than 10 minutes. 10 minutes to announce 3 new phones. No big fanfare, nothing. These devices basically look like yearly incremental updates to the Razr and Razr Maxx lines. This leads me to believe that these are simply fulfilling contractual obligations between Motorola and Verizon. It really seems like Verizon didn’t care about these too much, so I’m starting to think that they are actually going to push the X as their flagship phone over these.

    • David

      Aren’t the internals a decent step up from previous Razr and Razr Maxx phones though?

    • Bionicman

      Orrrrrrr Verizon isnt going to release the moto x for a loooooooooong time….hope I’m wrong..

    • bionicwaffle

      Not sure what you’re talking about. The first razr’s, 1.6 years ago, were much older OMAP 45 nm designs with poor LTE radios that took a lot of battery, only 4.3″ displays. The HD models released .7ish years ago they were still dual core but it was a much newer and faster Krait design at 28 nm which uses much less power and had integrated radios at the same die size which means the LTE, and other radios, used much less power. They also moved to a 4.7″ 720p display. Now they have a new moto processor to help with battery life, they moved the bottom buttons off the screen where they should be (imho), improved the CPU a little and the GPU a lot. The display while still OLED at least is not pentile anymore. I think they’re good bumps.

      • guest

        and with some cool new features too like always on listening google now, screen notifications and the wrist flick to launch camera. All these feature are always running when the the phone screen off too, thats what excites me about the new line of devices from moto, User experience will be a lot different compared to other android devices out there.

  • Joshua Bailey

    No Verizon branding on the Front of the device is revolutionary in itself. Lol.

    • juanjeremy2012

      why hate on the verizon branding. i know i look down upon people who dont use verizon or att as having no money and therefore not being as sucsexful as me. i want the world to know i have a rolex, drive a mercedes and a contract with VERIZON

      • Warwick

        Lol, I dont drive a Mercedes own a Rolex but im on Verion : /

      • T4rd

        Just how “sucsexful” are you..?!

        • Justin W

          It must not involve High School.

        • MotoRulz

          That’s the drawback from a GED… No spelling Bee’s

      • John Burke

        Odd, I look down on people with the Verizon logo for having chosen CDMA. Well…not look down on, but more question their decision.
        However, I travel a lot out of the country so I need a phone that can easily travel with me so CDMA just is not the right choice for me. To each their own.

        • LionStone

          I’d have to question your questioning…when CDMA, in the STATES, on VZW, pretty much rocks! I travel all over the STATES and I cannot complain, however, I do see other folks walking around with their phone up in the air trying to grab a signal ;)

          • John Burke

            As I said I travel a lot, I’m outside of the STATES about as often as I’m in the STATES so I need a phone to work in both so CDMA just isn’t right for me.
            Tried using a CDMA phone from a US carrier that was supposed to work in Asia but didn’t so quickly took out one of my HSPA phones & it worked.

          • cbkcc1

            um… almost all of VZW’s latest phones are Global. can either unlock and use a local SIM or use their data/voice. or be even smarter and use Wi-Fi/data to call via Groove IP and Google Voice.

          • LionStone

            Right!, so why question people that use CDMA in the STATES when it works great! have a good day….

          • John Burke

            Because some people travel & want only one phone.
            Thanks & same to you.

            *moving on*

      • A.Miller

        I love it! Hilarious. Looking at the downvotes, people have no sense of humor.

        • Cowboydroid

          It’s pretty clearly satire…apparently they don’t teach that in school anymore.

      • jose

        I look down on people who can’t form a complete sentence.

    • David Narada Brown

      They dont need to brand this phone its only available on verizon. they mark up the other phones because they are offered on other carriers. the more popular the phone the more advertisement for verizon. It makes sense for them but we the consumer hate this.

    • Ben Klene

      Just wait, the 1080p Droid Maxx HD will be out in 6mo. and there will be plenty more room for branding!

      Moar Logos!

      • Justin W

        Just stop.

        • Keith0606

          sad thing is that guy is probably right about the HD version in 6 months.

          • LionStone

            probably in 3 months though ;)

          • Ben Klene

            It just seemed peculiar when I read it was 720. I don’t mind if its 720 or 1080, but when I read it, I could only think “Oh good they left room to upgrade”

          • Trueblue711

            Actually, I think Motorola finally stopped their quarterly phone upgrade releases.

          • michael arazan

            And another 10-20% of battery power.

            So wtf? Why couldn’t they make these with HD screens when the last Razr was an HD? It will really be a joke if they release another one in 6 months and it is an Ultra or Maxx HD. Who releases a phone with lesser specs than the last phone? Verizon must think they found some great sales model of selling phones.

    • Radgatt

      I guess it was either capacitive buttons with no logo on the front or on screen buttons with the logo on the front. Maybe Verizon listened to a degree and realize people don’t like their branding on the front more than people liking onscreen buttons. I could be wrong but that’s my guess.

  • jh123416

    I held an HTC One in BestBuy yesterday for the first time. Holy ravioli that is a nice piece of hardware and the bezel ain’t bad either. But hey, I’m interested in seeing the Moto X and this new “8X” stuff

    • David

      Same here – it felt solid, if not a bit on the heavy side. I like the solid, but I worry that it will be heavier than I care to carry around all day.

      • Justin W

        I truly forget it’s in my pocket sometimes. It might seem heavy compared to a Nexus 4, but it’s really easy to get used to.

        • David

          Hmmm, good to know. I really do like the look and feel of it.

      • SilentSpring

        Not picking on you David, but when did the human race become so um weak? I always marvel at the reviews that say a 150g cell phone is too heavy and that a 2 lb tablet is too heavy to hold.

        I dunno….am I the only one that thinks this?

        • David

          Ha! Point made. I’m not a small person – so it’s not so much that I’m worried that it will be “too” heavy. It’s more for times like when I go running and want to keep it in my pocket or other times I’m more active. I don’t need it to be the lightest and thinest phone on the market, but all things being equal, I would go with a lighter and thinner model that is easier to wear than a bulky or heavier phone that always makes itself known. Just my preference.

  • Greg

    at least they got rid of the verizon logo on the front. wish pricing was better

  • hypebeastmyass

    Storage? expandable?

    • Robert Macri

      doubt it… I don’t think the Razr brand ever had expandable storage.

      • Josh C

        the RAZR and RAZR HD both are expandable.

        • jnt

          Yeah but besides those… ! ;)

      • MyStroPro

        My Razr has an external SD slot so I have no idea what you are referring to.

        In fact, every Razr I think does. Not sure on the Razr M, but can pretty much guarantee the other 4 do (Razr, Razr Maxx, Razr HD, Razr HD Maxx).

        Unless you are trying to make a joke — or if you are referencing the Moto X (which doesn’t according to leaks).

  • duoexo

    Annnndddd they didn’t announce the HTC One. That & the MotoX have been on my damn radar.

  • Robert Macri

    So will the MOTO X have this x8 thingamajig?

    • NexusPhan69

      I’d be willing to bet it will.

      • WickedToby741

        It would explain the benchmark that came out putting it on the same level as the 600.

  • Mark Schleupner

    BGR is reporting:
    “Beginning with the Droid Ultra, spec highlights include a 5-inch full HD 1080p display, a quad-core Snapdragon 800 processor, 2GB of RAM, a 10-megapixel camera and a kevlar case.”
    Is this true?!? That would be better than the X wouldn’t it?

    • n900mixalot

      Yep, but at a much higher price–if the rumors are true.

    • jbdan

      In some peoples minds yes. What is really better though? Spec nerds drive me crazy :p

      • n900mixalot

        ME TOO!

    • imns

      if it is the Snapdragon 800, I just may consider it!

    • SeanPlunk

      No way it’s an S800. They said the CPU is 24% more powerful than the HD Maxx..
      The S800 is orders or magnitude more powerful. It’s a dual-core S4 Pro.

      • NexusPhan69

        Not if you only are using two of those cores for apps processing!

        • SeanPlunk

          I’m only referring to raw CPU performance. The S800 would be a lot more powerful than 24%. From a user standpoint, I agree. I like what Motorola is doing overall. It makes sense.

    • tyguy829

      don’t ever believe anything bgr says

    • jh123416

      BGR loves Apple. Don’t even bother reading for anything Android.

      • cns2007

        Agreed. I actually stopped reading their blog because of the obvious bias.

    • Jack Hoffman

      BGR the pinnacle of web-journalism.

      “Can we talk about Apple now?” QFT.

  • Mike

    Garbage

  • GCE1701D

    sooo it’s the X wrapped in Kevlar? :/ I am very confused.. but I guess if they needed to pump out one last Droid phone on their deal with verizon may as well have it mimic your soon to be released phone to avoid confusion… or create more? lol idk

    • WickedToby741

      Contractual obligations to Verizon probably.

  • Bionic

    Yanno what. I like this. X8 sounds interesting. Updates might be a challenge tho.

    $300 is a shame though.

  • DER

    Sounds pretty good across the board IMO. I think y’all are “jank”

  • jbdan

    droidzap….seriously!

  • Butters619

    Watching the keynote it is very clear these are Droid phones more so than Moto phones. Besides the batwing on the phones and the one mention of Motorola x8 processing, the keynote has been very absent of any Moto branding.

  • Bionic

    Why are moto “top tier phones” always $300? Stupid.

    • Josh C

      Agree. If I can get Moto X with the same specs, slightly smaller screen size and $350 off contract…easy decision.

  • Bionic

    First I’ve heard of X8 mobile computing. Interesting.

    • NexusPhan69

      Dammit Sarge!

      • Bionic

        He never mentioned this to be honest

        • NexusPhan69

          I was just giving you a hard time. It sounds very cool.

          • Ted

            I knew about the X8 for weeks but that was one of the things I said in these comments on some of the posts that I wanted to be an element of surprise.

          • NexusPhan69

            It certainly surprised me that Verizon announced the new Moto X processor.

          • Bionic

            Good on ya

      • Papa Snarf Snarf

        Sarge works for the cleaning company that cleans the offices of Motorola. He obtains his information from reading memos left on desk tops at night. Bionic is the day supervisor.

        • Heatfan316

          I am so fucking-gay! i suck and blow!

        • Bionic

          A nice theory, but actually I work in retail

          • Heatfan316

            you work at wall mart you pos

    • kixofmyg0t

      Remember when I said I was gonna call you out on being wrong?

      Remember when I said 8 cores?

      Not so midrange now is it?

      • Bionic

        Good job. However this technology needs to be proven yet.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Sorry bud, that’s back pedaling there. Its not a midrange device, its all kinds of flagship.

          If the tech wasn’t vetted and stress tested properly during the engineering and testing phases, then Motorola deserves whatever shitstorm goes their way, but I highly highly doubt that to be the case.

          • GuidZilla

            I want “Sorry Bud, it’s all kinds of flagship” on a t-shirt.

          • jh123416

            Shutup and take my money, I’ll take one in large

          • Bionic

            I am not disputing that. However I was not made aware of this X8 stuff. That’s why I reported as mid range.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            Bionic, it wasn’t just you reporting it as Mid-range, so it looks like a lot of people didn’t know.

        • kixofmyg0t

          You’re absolutely right. But Moto has Google behind them. They wouldn’t have done this without Google saying so.

          Motorola isn’t in a spec war with Samsung. That’s futile. Its about battery life and the user experience. Things can always be better.

          *Oh and i dont wanna be a jerk to ya. But you we’re being a sorta know it all at times. That was my only issue.

          • tyguy829

            hug it out guys!

          • Bionic

            Hug*

          • Bionic

            You forget. The information I pass along isn’t mine.

          • Bionic

            but yes, thanks for not being a jerk

      • Bionic

        Updates will be a challenge. Believe me.

        • NexusPhan69

          You think this will hinder the development community? What does that mean for the Moto X? Oh no.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Not anymore than any other device. If the co-processors are off-the-shelf parts, and they setup the kernel properly, updates should be a breeze, or at the very least no slower than any other OEM.

          • Bionic

            I have developer friends who all out disagree with you.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            Well, they can take it up with the software engineers I asked before commenting, as I thought the same thing initially.

          • BionicSucksD1ck

            I don’t need friends to say that you are just full of sh*t

        • AxemRed

          Updates are always a challenge with Verizon. I had the Bionic for a while haha.

          • Bionic

            Dude, my name is Bionic, where do you think I got it? LOL

        • Ian

          Does that make him any less right?

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Its most likely a trademark for a co-processor implementation similar to Nvidia’s bigLITTLE, or the Octa. If it is their own custom SoC design, that would be insane and a huge step forward. Likely, it is not a single piece of silicon, but a network of co-processors bussed together on-board with a custom S4 Pro as the primary SoC.

      And, now we know why the Moto X seems so incredibly fast with “only” a dual-core processor :-)

      • Bionic

        Yeah. And do you realize the challenge in updating such complex core structure?

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          No more difficult than updating any other driver. If they coded it properly, only certain very specific base-level changes will affect how the co-processor network runs in a significant way, which will be no worse than any other driver that needs updating, and likely easier if they compartmentalized it so that one part breaking (other than the main SoC) doesn’t bring down the whole thing.

    • WickedToby741

      So it has two computing cores, four graphics cores, a contextual core, and a natural language core. Is this simply the 8960T S4 Pro that’s been rumored with two additional cores for contextual and natural language recognition (don’t know how many graphics cores the 8960T has)? And is it safe to assume we know what processors will be used in Google Glass?

    • Justin W

      I saw someone (or some website) mention that there could be cores split for different uses, but I don’t recall where.

      • dtraini30

        I saw that too… The Verge?

        • Justin W

          Very possibly so… The Verge or Engadget.

  • Anubis

    Do they have notification LEDs? because the moto X is a failure without one

    • Josh C

      Doesn’t look like it. And why? At least the screen notifications will give you some insight to what type of notification it is.

      • NexusPhan69

        If I wanted to go back to the 2007 days of my screen turning on for a simple notification, I’d get an iPhone. It’s one of my GNex’s best features.

        • Josh C

          I think it will be a low brightness, back-lit pulsing display. Sounds nice to me, actually. We’ll see how it is in practice.

          • NexusPhan69

            I’d still 1000% prefer a constant LED light. One second glance and done.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            Its an AMOLED screen, so it would likely adjust brightness automatically, and only lights up the necessary pixels to show the notification.

          • Josh C

            With the goal of not killing the battery I hope.

      • Anubis

        i havemy phone checking 4 different email acnts and 3 different text messaging like services. each has a different notification color that simply blinks until i check it, i can give my phone a quick glance at any time and nn a matter of seconds i know exactly where my messages are from without having to wake it up.

        • Josh C

          Good point. My GNex is set up like this also. Guess something different sounds good at this point.

        • guest

          great that sounds so easy ..just remember and write down what color is for what type of notification, just put it on a sticky note you are good ..great!!..visual notification pulsing every 5 seconds is not a good experience you are saying?, you will get to see what notification it is from the Icon on the screen, no need to remember the colors and guess what notification it could be ..

    • socarwolverine

      These do, one of the hands-on pictures from another tech site had a glowing green light in the top left corner

  • SeanPlunk

    $299 for the Maxx? They’re on crack…

    • LiterofCola

      Considering thats how much it coust for the original, it’s not so crazy

      • SeanPlunk

        Considering you can get an S4 for $199, and the One soon for $199 as well, it’s WAY to high IMHO.
        Not to mention it looks like the Moto X will be $299 off contract for a 16GB model with very similar specs.

        • LiterofCola

          This has a bigger screen, better look IMO…if it has expandable storage, I’ll pay extra for that AND that huge battery.

          • NexusPhan69

            Better look? Really? Are you on the Verizon design team? You’re not fooling me.

          • LiterofCola

            I bet you actually liked the look of the Galaxy Nexus?

          • EC8CH

            I do :-)

          • MyStroPro

            Some people dislike the Nexus look. I’m one of them, though I’m not sold on this phone yet either.

            In fact, lately, I’ve thought phone designs are boring and suck (S4 & HTC One). The Nokia Windows Phone line looks better than the Android lines latest.

        • zurginator

          The whole point is for the $199 Ultra to go up against the $199 S4 and One. The MAXX is doing it’s own thing.

  • Bionic

    Copying the octa?

    • Asmodai

      No, they’re counting 4 GPU cores in the 8 cores. Octa has 8 cores NOT counting the GPU with only 4 active at any one time.

  • Joshua Bailey

    How incredibly uninteresting…Droid brand is done. Long live X.

    • LiterofCola

      you’re an idiot

      • tyguy829

        you say that a lot lol

        • LiterofCola

          Lol, sometimes nonsense is the best response for nonsense :p

    • Joshua Bailey

      X8 is pretty cool. Along the line of what androidandme reported a few weeks ago. If this is what we will expect from the Moto X specs, it will sell like crazy.

  • SeanPlunk

    Well, I was wrong about the RAM, it looks like it’s 2GB. Dual-core CPU though, and judging by the clock speed I think it is a 1.7ghz S4 PRO.

    • Bionic

      Yup

      • SeanPlunk

        And everyone down-voted me.
        So, we have:
        5″ 720p screen
        1.7ghz S4 Pro Dual-Core
        Adreno 320
        2GB of Ram
        10.5MP Camera
        So KBMAN was spot on except for the RAM. I also badly misjudged the pricing. Seriously, $299 for the Maxx and $199 for the Ultra is INSANE.

        • Bionic

          Good job

        • NexusPhan69

          Doesn’t it qualify as quad core tho? 2 for apps, one for contextual one for language?
          Edit: 1080 screen. You were as off as I’d figured you were.

          • SeanPlunk

            I suppose you could look at it that way, but technically the CPU is 2 cores. This is why specs aren’t important. I like what Motorola is doing.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            well technically it could qualify as an octocore since there are two processor cores, 4 gpu cores and 2 other cores for other things. Guess we won’t know what it really is until someone cracks it open and checks to see what chips are in it.

        • Cell Zealot

          The X8 is semantics really…Moto has always preferred to use custom hybrid SoCs rather than pure reference designs and this chip set is a return to that policy from the rare departure of the last models which used the off the shelf S4 MSM8960 SoC.
          Also regarding the amount of RAM, there were several test variants with both 1GB and 2GB versions. My source got the earlier Ultra variant with less RAM and 16 GB internal memory.
          Thanks for the show of confidence in my credibility!

    • Asmodai

      I don’t think it’s dual core, it looks like a quad core. They’re just reserving two of the cores for “contextual computing” and “natural language” so only 2 are available for applications.

  • Bionic

    Told ya. Specs are not great

    • Ian

      take a hint

  • tyguy829

    I’m SHOCKED Moto let verizon announce this before they announced the Moto X. It is stealing all of its hype by having all the same features

    • Qwerty

      The way Verizon markets its line of Droid phones on commercials and such won’t steal too much thunder from the Moto X I imagine.

      • n900mixalot

        And the Moto X won’t be available on Verizon … I imagine. But who knows.

        • Josh C

          Yes, it will.

        • jh123416

          It’s been confirmed VZW is carrying.

          • n900mixalot

            Confirmed how? By Verizon?

          • jh123416

            FCC filings and roadmap leaks.

          • n900mixalot

            Hm … well, I guess that’s what I get for ignoring all of the rumors.

          • jh123416

            Well an FCC filing isn’t a “rumor”

          • n900mixalot

            Whoah, no need to be a dick. They are precatory licensing requests, they don’t always mean something is definitely coming. All of this Moto X stuff is still a rumor until it is formally announced.

          • jh123416

            Didn’t mean to come off like that. My bad. But hey, we’ll see August 1!

          • NexusPhan69

            Neither was the Verizon HTC one FCC filing and it’s still not available. Delays are almost as bad as not even getting it.

          • Verizon

            Yes, I’m confirming it.

          • kali bred

            Love you’re you always chime in at the times hilarious!!!!

    • Butters619

      Except Moto wasn’t mentioned much here. It’s very clear this is a Verizon event for Verizon phones. And I’m sure any marketing you see will be pushing these as Droid phones and you’ll only get a glimpse of the batwing.

      • tyguy829

        yeah but doesn’t it seem a bit wrong that verizon is the one to officially announce the whole X8 system (dual core+context core+language core+ 4 graphic cores), the new camera wrist thing, all of the hands free voice stuff, etc. I feel like that should have come first with the moto x

        • Butters619

          Yeah it does. I’m sure it was a contract thing that Moto couldn’t drop their flagship before the Droid line was announced.

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        Absolutely. They don’t even have the usual “by Motorola” tagline after the name. Motorola is only making the internals for these, they are most definitely Verizon devices.

    • King Lo

      I think that’s why the event was only 15 min long. They seemed to quickly gloss over the new stuff.

    • kixofmyg0t

      Verizon has always pushed the DROID line. Its no surprise actually.

    • juanjeremy2012

      moto x is still ghetto. for class men, they got standard issue droids

  • tyguy829

    wait it has the same specs as moto x? confused…??

    • NexusPhan69

      The X8. It all makes sense now.

      • tyguy829

        yep. so they are going to market this as “Octo Core” You just watch

        • NexusPhan69

          I actually really like this in theory. I hope it works in the real world.

        • CivilDroid

          With Octo-Mom as their spokesperson!!

          • sc4fpse

            Almost as good of a way to sell smartphones as J-Lo. Almost.

        • zurginator

          Kinda like how everyone says the S4 is “Octo Core”?

          • tyguy829

            i know the S4 can only use 4 cores at a time, but Moto includes the 4 gpu cores to get to 8. The S4 is “octo core” not even including the gpu

        • NexusPhan69

          And just like that
          “So we are not saying we have an octa-­core chip, but we have an octa-­core Mobile Computing System”

    • LiterofCola

      With a bigger screen, better look ….stil waiting for info on an SD car slot

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      They are most likely thinner and look much taller. We’ll have to wait to see what it looks like later.

      Here’s to hoping the Droid name doesn’t mean a $200 off-contract premium.

      • Justin W

        I can pretty much guarantee it will, especially since it’s Verizon at the helm for the Droid line.

  • Bionic

    Specs will be jank

    • fartbubbler

      if you pay for jank, you’re getting jank.

    • MotoRulz

      Care to edit this post now?

  • PyroHoltz

    Price and Specs…that’s all we care about!

    • Wolfpack93

      And how much bloatware? We’ll set the over/under at ten.

      • PyroHoltz

        While I completely agree with you, not only does bloat suck, but Big Red seems to absolutely adore bloat. The nice thing is, you can typically disable it when running 4.1 and higher. Not all mind you, but much of the bloat can be disabled, just not uninstalled. That’s good enough for me when it comes to most stock ROMs.

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    no live stream? i’m reading engadgets liveblog, everything on the moto x are on these.

  • Thomas

    Where is the live video feed?

    • NexusPhan69

      It was made clear that there wasn’t one.

  • t3chi3

    I’m shocked really…..