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Moto X Leaks Continue With More Specs, Blurry Cam Pics, and a Bunch of Other Stuff We Already Knew

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It wouldn’t be a proper day at this point if we didn’t have something to report on either the Moto X or Nexus 7. Since the Nexus 7 has been everywhere this afternoon, we thought we’d also share some Moto X happenings that popped up, mostly because they help round out the specs, and we know that you love talking about this phone, if nothing else. The rest of today’s leak via Android Police – outside of the specs – is really just a bunch of blurry cam shots of the AT&T model and other info we already knew. Anyways, let’s get to the new stuff. 

So according to a series of benchmark screenshots that were run on the device, we can now essentially confirm the 10MP camera on the rear, and that the device does indeed sport a 4.7-inch display, with about 4.5-inches usable because of the on-screen navigation buttons. The processor, once again is a dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro. We also get second or third or fourth (I’ve lost track) confirmations on the RAM, storage, connectivity options, and battery.

In terms of the benchmarks that were run, the device is not going to be some sneaky beast, because after all, it is running a semi-older dual-core processor.

Just keep in mind that we’re starting to really hear that Motorola may do something crazy with the price of this phone to make it irresistible to almost everyone, and that’s off contract. We’ve also heard nothing but glowing remarks from those who have had a chance to use the device. In fact, I haven’t heard one complaint about the screen resolution or the lack of a new processor like the Snapdragon 600.

We’ll get our hands on the device come August 1, so be sure to mark it on your calendars and hang around the site.

Here are the specs now that some other pieces have been figured out:

  • Processor:  1.7GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro (MSM8960DT, dual-core) processor
  • Display:  4.7-inch display, reads as 4.5-inch because of on-screen nav buttons (1184×720 resolution)
  • RAM:  2GB RAM
  • Cameras:  10.5MP rear, 2.1MP front
  • Battery:  2200 mAh
  • Storage:  16GB internal storage (no microSD slot)
  • Other:  NFC, 802.11a/b/g/n/ac WiFi
  • Model numbers:  XT1060 (Verizon), XT1058 (AT&T), XT1056 (Sprint), XT1055 (US Cellular)

Some additional pictures:

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Be sure to check out the official press renders for the device in both white and black that came out yesterday.

Via:  Android Police

Cheers Trevor!

  • MKader17

    Am I the only one disappointed that it is a 4.7″ screen. I was actually hoping for something in the 4.3 range for a smaller package (and assuming better battery life)

    • NexusPhan69

      Yes you are. 4.3″ screen with on-screen nav buttons is about a 4″ usable screen. That’s puny. That’s iPhone puny. I feel like very few people want that.

    • AxemRed

      4.3 is a little small, but I was hoping for 4.5. With the way phones are going today though, I don’t feel like I can complain about 4.7.

      • Skittlez

        i think 4.7 is the sweet spot. on screen buttons makes it 4.5, but it fills out the screen when you need to watch a video. i like it

  • Dane Carpenter

    doesn’t 802.11ac require it’s own dedicated processor? I have a feeling that there are multiple processors in this phone. I’m thinking on might be processing wireless data and the other doing everything else.

    • NexusPhan69

      Thank you. Something is up. This is why I’m so excited for August 1st.

  • Joshua Bailey

    I still feel like Moto/Google has something really major up it’s sleeve with this phone. Google is not dumb enough to allow Moto to spit out last year’s tech without there being something absolutely groundbreaking (not Moto magic) that this device brings to the table.

    I think the customizations are cool, but they almost seem like a smokescreen at this point. People are all, “Oh it comes in all these colors and finishes,” now, but when it is released I think the customizations will take a backseat to some sort of optimizations/hidden sensors/hidden (or upgraded) processor. I don’t think it is an 800, but if they snuck in an S600 (dual/quad) I think people would literally scoop these up.

    As it is now, my wife and I will be getting one of these day 1. Our plan is to buy at retail until our Verizon plans are up. If Moto/Google is releasing that mystic “hero” device in October, T-Mobile will become our carrier of choice. We live in a large Metro area in Atlanta, so coverage is not a concern.

    Just bring it Googlorola!

  • Brett

    No SD card slot? No thank you. All my Cached music from Rdio takes up 16 gb’s all by itself.

  • jra716

    If this is offered at the same price point as the Nexus 4, which is the better buy? I can’t wait for it to be released as i’m looking forward to an in-depth comparison between the two. I’m sure both will have their pro’s and con’s.

    • Kanaga Deepan N

      In that case Moto X is best… Not only due to improved camera, but also the 2GB RAM will be making a great difference, imho…

      • moe6

        The N4 has 2GB of RAM.

    • Skittlez

      I enjoyed the Nexus 4 a lot. more than any other phone i’ve used(with the exception of the SPEAKERS on the HTC One). I don’t think you’ll be disappointed either way. The N4 had absolutely no lag at all.

  • Tristan the Marine

    What happened to those sexy checkered backs we saw in the press leaks?

    • moe6

      It’s supposed to be customisable when ordered, lots of different backs.

  • Philip A. Kaiser

    Ok, just saying this for arguments sake. If Google can get a Nexus 7 to the market for $239, I do not see why a $200 phone is out of the realm of possibility. Think about it. The only difference is really radios and size. If Google is willing to make a minimal profit on a tablet to take over the market share of tablets, I do not see why they wouldn’t be willing to use this same approach to the phone market. In reality, this is the first major phone they have direct control over and given the “moderate” specs, it seems that they are trying to keep the costs down. To me, this means a mainstream $200 device that will likely be adopted by the masses. Add in 500mil in advertising costs and this thing is destined to become a major change in the way these products are marketed.

    • sski66

      If this does come out @ $200-$300I’m all over it, heck if it doesn’t meet my standards I’ll keep it as a back up. To me this will be groundbreaking, an inexpensive pricepoint, OFF CONTRACT, on Verizon, keep my unlimited data, yeah, bring it on. Just think what Google is doing, I very well can have a brand new awesome Tablet & Phone for right around $500 buckarinos, FN Awesome!!!

      • Philip A. Kaiser

        That’s exactly what I am talking about. Putting a phone and tab in peoples hands for under 500 is monumental.

        • sski66

          I know right, people need to look @ the “Big Picture”, monumental is the perfect word for it, can’t wait…

    • Steve Benson

      If and that’s a BIG IF – this thing launches at $199, the smartphone market is going to change forever. The big names will not be able to compete at this price, which will hopefully bring down their prices as well.

      This is the sexiest device Motorola has EVER built and they know it. They’re backing it with a massive marketing campaign and it’s going to sell like hot cakes. This is the device that will put Motorola back on the map and make them relevant.

    • chris420o

      why is everyone forgetting that google barely makes a profit(if anything) on the n7…they make money on the fact and hope people who buy an n7 will use their services and they will make money off that…motorola is a seperate entity…they arent going to release a phone and make zero profit on because they arent making anything off people using googles services…so there is no shot this phone will be 200 bucks off contract…im hoping for 3-400 off contract which would still be appealing similar th the n4

  • NexusMan

    I CAN’T do 16gb!!!! :(

  • Luisito Mercado

    16GB and NO SD Card expandability? Lol they’re f***ed already… Plus, 2200 on a dual-core S4 Pro is battery friendly, but it won’t suffice users like me that actually put an S600 to it’s full 1.7GHz, quad-core potential along with Adreno 320 overclocked to 450MHz… On-screen buttons that I hate, 720p AMOLED (if it was LCD, I probably wouldn’t complain), plain look on the front with screen off-centered to the bottom, etc… This phone is definitely not for me… Though, I gotta admit, it looks great from the back! Moto always makes sexy devices!

  • jer85008

    I had a thought today – maybe this is signaling the end of a dedicated Nexus phone. Now you can buy a top tier flagship Nexus edition device (S4 or HTC One) from the Play Store. With the MotoX coming in the next month or so what’s the point of launching a new Nexus anytime soon? All I’m saying is that if you are going to pass on this waiting for a follow-up to the N4 you may be waiting a long time..

    • Steve Benson

      Nope, Google said Nexus program isn’t going anywhere. Nexus is still Google’s flagship Android showcase phone. Moto X will be Moto’s flagship only, not Google’s.

    • Bionic

      NO, the Nexus 5 is coming in October

      • jh123416

        Possibilty of a Nexus 5 for Verizon? lol…

      • Mike Hilal

        Since you’re in the know, what screen tech did they go with on this phone? IPS? Super Amoled (non pentile)? Super Amoled (pentile)?

      • jer85008

        I wrote this having not done a single internet search on the subject. But now that I have, there are quite a few rumors/theories saying the same thing. Perhaps the phone we think will be the N5 is actually just an LG G2 “Play Store” edition like the S4/HTC One? I think this one could swing either way.

  • Josh Jones

    2200Mah? ffs. My Razr M barely meets my battery needs at 2000MaH and that has a 480 lcd display. I thought you were supposed to be keeping battery in mind, Motorola.

    • maxx1987

      what? razr m is qHD super amoled advanced…

      • Josh Jones

        Looking at the two side by side the Razr M looks horrendous by comparison. So i assumed it was not an amOLED.

        • maxx1987

          ok…

  • http://www.unexpectedparameters.com Aaron Hurt

    Better come with Google wallet on all carriers… (I know a pipe dream)

  • jh123416

    I’m sorry but if Larry Page and Eric Schmidt have been carrying this thing around and tooted it, shouldn’t it be pretty good?

  • Philip A. Kaiser

    I know they say this is a photo of a dual SIM variant but I keep hoping one of those slots is for a MicroSD slot.

    • Trevor

      If only

    • NexusPhan69

      Why would they label the SD slot a “SIM 1″ or “SIM 2″?

  • Steve

    Give me the largest storage space you have and take my money.

  • Mahesh

    Model numbers: XT1060 (Verizon), XT1058 (AT&T), XT1056 (Sprint), XT1055 (US Cellular)
    in specs I dont see Tmobile. will they be under US Cellular?

  • disastrousrainbow

    If true, no memory card and only 16GB of storage? No thanks. I’ll stick with my S4 and pure Google kthxnicetry.

  • Mark Mann

    what’s with the blue spoon?

    • kali bred

      A new wonder weapon from cod mob of the dead?

    • Trevor

      There is no spoon.

      • Mark Mann

        i know that…i was attempting to be funny, as the blue shape in the screen reflection looks like a spoon…quick catch it before it flies over your head again

        • Trevor

          Matrix reference man. Come on.

          • Mark Mann

            sorry…aside from all the symbolism in the movie…that was perhaps one of the worst movies i’ve ever seen(imo)…i saw it once, in theaters, when it came out…and never cared to see it again

          • Trevor

            It’s alright, I’ll let it slide.

  • Mahesh

    Breaking News: Just got confirmation from one of my source at MOTO: 16gb will sell for 299 and 32 gb for 349, without contract.

    Carriers will subsidize $150/200

  • Mike Robertson

    I wouldn’t recommend this phone to anyone. Not much storage, battery or screen. This phone is for a gramma who doesn’t know anything about phones but just wants an android because she her grandkids talks about them all the time.

    • Mahesh

      millions of users dont even use 8gb and for thousands 100 gb is not enough. every product is not for all.

    • Luke Grissom

      I think the purpose of this phone is trying to reach and unsubsidized price point. Imagine selling a phone with decent specs (although not top tier by and means) for around $300 off contract. That would appeal to a lot of people.

    • Steve Benson

      Silly Mike.

  • edmicman

    Is the battery replaceable? Any chance of a 32GB option? Is there a notification light? I’m in desperate need of a replacement for my LTE Galaxy Nexus, but need something that’s gonna last me another couple years. And I hate the giant monstrosities that HTC and Samsung are releasing, would rather keep as close to stock Android as I can, and I’ve always had good luck with Motorola hardware. I really want to like this device but it just seems like a lateral move. 16GB? Really? That’s *awful*.

    • Mahesh

      yes 32gb is option

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Battery is not removable (though is likely replaceable, as in its not soldered/adhered to the board/casing), 32GB is very very likely though there has been no real talk about that, and they are not putting in a notification LED in place of a daydream-like display notification.

  • Marc Lewis

    No microSD slot? Well that is a deal breaker if that is true.

    • Bionic

      agreed, i can deal with that on a tablet, but a phone? no

  • CapnShiner

    If it’s only going to have 16GB of internal storage and no microsd slot, the system ROM better not take up much space. If only half of that storage is available, they better offer a 32GB version at least.

    • Luisito Mercado

      As u can see it takes up around 3.8xxGB, see u only get 12,165.9GB out of the box…

      • xpyroxcorex

        im not sure 12,165.9GB is going to be enough for me…. i was hoping for at least 36,000GB…

  • Steve

    So Bionic — if you had a choice of a phone to get before October rolls around, for Verizon, what one would you get? My GNex is on its last legs and needs to be replaced ASAP. S4, One, X, new Droid lines are all looking appealing.

    • Bionic

      Please keep in mind when I give you my choice that I was the biggest moto fanboy alive at one time.

      My answer is S4. I have one now and I do not have a single complaint about it. I am running Nova launcher to cover up touchwiz and its great.

      The S4 is going to be the best supported phone out of the ones you named simply because of Samsung’s “power” in the world of Android.

      Sarge said the new droid line isnt special and I believe him.

      Get an S4 dude and be happy with great battery life and a SD card slot.

      • http://profiles.google.com/gallimichael Michael G. Galli

        I like my S4 but my battery life sucks ass on VZW. A lot of reviews had said the same.

        • Bionic

          I simply don’t see how that’s possible unless it is switching between 3G and 4G a ton.

          My average life is 33hrs and when I have 3-4 hours screen time it’s 13 hours or more.

          • http://profiles.google.com/gallimichael Michael G. Galli

            I know, and I believe you, Bionic. But I’m telling you, and this is the SECOND S4 they swapped out for me. (I have constant Bluetooth connectivity issues). I can barely get 8-9 hours out of mine. Its stock, no rogue apps, nothing crazy.

    • CapnShiner

      If you cannot wait that long and you can afford to get something unsubsidized, I would say get a GS3 from eBay or something. It’ll be better than your GNex, cheaper than a GS4 but almost as good, and will have decent resale value, so you can save your upgrade for what you really want in 2014.

    • ROB

      Note 2 off ebay and wait till next year

  • Rob Buttons

    Prices rarely ever leak.

    • Bionic

      Nexus 7 did

  • guesswhat

    Hands free voice activation doesn’t excite anyone at all? ..this is the first smartphone to which you can talk to when your phone is off and expect a response. I see that feature being so usefull when im driving cooking etc . The only way one could call, navigate, send text message etc ..was only by touch, now you could do all this by voice without touching the phone to activate voice command, it opens up a whole new way you can interact with your phone. I guess you guys are only excited about huge screen phones quad core and octo cores ..without even realizing none of the apps never actually use those extra cores ..for me all the talk about a phone being a fastest phone ever with zillion cores from OEMS sounds like a big gimmick

    • Bionic

      Actually…….I can go into options on S voice for my Galaxy S4 and enable “always listening” just like the moto x has.

      I say “hi galaxy” or a custom command and the phone wakes up and will take any voice command I give it.

      Sound familiar?

      • guesswhat

        your battery life will take a big hit if you enable it, pretty much plummet if you do that ..because the voice recognition system runs on the Main cpu’s, try leaving it and report back here about the battery life. potorola is running some low power mic/processor to be able to leave mic it always listening.

        • Bionic

          I have a buddy who enabled his and he is still averaging 16 hours per charge with 3 hours screen time.

          But yes it does take a hit

        • Bionic

          But yes you are right, motorola’s system will be a lot better on battery than S voice is.

          Im just saying the feature itself isnt groundbreaking

          • jbannach

            There will be alot more cool commands coming in Google Now (and other G products) because of always-on that S Voice will never have.

      • ERIFNOMI

        Pretty sure you could do that with the S3 as well, correct?

        • Bionic

          i think so yes

          • hkklife

            Yes you could do that on the S3. I of course immediately disabled it because it was a huge battery hog.

      • jbannach

        Big difference is Google Now is much better than S-Voice and this gap will get larger as Google improves Google Now because of the always-on capability (you can see always-on in other Google products and they believe this is the future).
        And battery life will be >>> S voice.

    • Franklin Ramsey

      You can do that with the dragon naturally speaking app too.

    • Steve Benson

      I think most are waiting to see this first hand. Seeing a promo and actually using it are two different things. I’m hopeful that it works great.

  • Bionic

    Moto Super X: Target release of Christmas

    – 5 inch screen
    – 1 Terabyte storage
    – Snapdragon Holy shitttt clocked at 4.3THZ
    – 22.575755 Gigs of RAM

    Off contract price of $0

    • Ryuuie

      I want a Snapdragon Holy Shitttt in my next phone.

      Hell, if it can be put into my next toaster, let’s put it in that too.

    • kixofmyg0t

      Pffft only 4.3 Terahertz?

      That makes it 2 years out of date.

      Pass.

    • sc4fpse

      Does that mean that they wouldn’t shut up and take my money?

    • Trevor

      SD slot?

      • tomn1ce

        You still want an sd slot with 1 Terabyte of storage…lol

    • IHATEHIPSTERSSS

      R.I.P Moto X

    • Adam Elghor

      Doesn’t matter it can’t be a good product if it isn’t DROID branded.

    • http://androidforums.com/members/kwest12.html kwest12

      Doesn’t print money and suck my d1k? Pass.

    • Butters619

      But can it run Crysis?

  • http://www.ashevilletechnologyservices.com Dan Brown

    I really hate the carbon fiber look… what about the matte black?

  • http://www.twitter.com/nblufire12 Nathan Patel

    if i put cm nightly or aokp on this bad boy, wont that ruin the optimizations motorola made for this phone and make that dual core s4 look that much slower? just a thought…

    wait… if i get off contract on verizon, will i be able to unlock bootloader?!

    • Justin W

      Likely will ruin the optimizations for the first few releases until CM/AOKP can find what Moto’s done to optimize it.

  • AxemRed

    I’m still leaning towards the Moto X, but the battery size concerns me. After having the GNex so long, I told myself that battery life would be near the top of my priority list. If this would have come with a 2800mah or higher, I would have probably preordered it. But they had to go and make it complicated for me…

    • Bionic

      Valid concern, especially with that old CPU running it.

      • DainLaguna

        how exactly is the cpu ‘old’? to my knowledge, no other device runs this specific processor…if they took the time to optimize it, 2200 mah’s should be enough. thats only 400 mah’s less than the so so touchwiz software on a gs4, with a bigger screen.

        • IHATEHIPSTERSSS

          ONLY 400? move along please.

          • kixofmyg0t

            I know I have moderate discalculia but let’s do the math.

            2600mAh(GS4)-2200mAh(Moto X)=400mAh difference. Hmm. Maybe I’m wrong. But I just double checked it with a calculator.

          • NexusPhan69

            He’s saying the 400 does not qualify as “only”
            400 is large decrease. 18% in fact.

          • kixofmyg0t

            Ahh yes. I see. You’re right. But 2200 is still respectable IMO.

          • NexusPhan69

            Yes but more is more.

      • calculatorwatch

        I think you mean ‘despite having’, or are you actually suggesting a dual core chip will use more battery than the 4 core CPU (with pretty much the same architecture) in something like the gs4?

      • Diablo81588

        Its not old, the 600 is a rebranded S4 Pro. This just happens to be dual core instead of quad.

        • Ben

          The 600 is a rebranded quad-core S4 Pro. This is a dual-core version, which is more or less a renamed S4 as far as I can tell. Still, it should be plenty fast – I’ve never seen anything that makes plenty of use of 4 threads on a phone. It’s basically the same hardware and screen resolution of American Galaxy S3s (not the Exynos international one)

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            The primary difference between the S4 Pro and Plus is moving from the Adreno 225 to the Adreno 320 GPU, a huge step up in performance and efficiency.

            The 600 is quite literally an S4 Pro quad with an integrated modem (there were a few extremely minor architecture changes presumably made to ease production and have no effect on performance).

            So, as many have been saying: the S4 Pro dual is extremely capable, and is certainly not “old” by any means.

          • kixofmyg0t

            The S4 Plus had Adreno 225. Both the quad and dual core S4 Pro have Adreno 320. Also the quad core S4 Pro supports 802.11ac, the dual core doesn’t. But moto has another chip for WiFi in X.

          • NexusPhan69

            What kind of another chip is it? I can’t wait to find out. Something unique is going on here.

          • tomn1ce

            Maybe a Broadcom chipset for wifi…or something like that..

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            Low-power co-processors have been used in mobile before, such as the Tegra 3 4+1 core and Exynos Octa. However, using separate processors to run very specific pieces of hardware would most definitely be unique.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            Sorry, I thought it was obvious that the Pro had the better GPU, but reading back through I could see why that would be a bit confusing. Also, I didn’t bring wifi into it because the discussion was presumably between the dual-core versions, which have similar wifi abilities.

            Honestly, I don’t think anyone but the designers/engineers has a clue about what kind of SoC and coprocessors are actually inside the X.

          • Ben

            That’s probably good enough, too. I don’t know or need to know exactly what radios are supported and whatnot. But with all this vague differentiation, it’s hard to know if it’s “better” than what I have. lol

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            Qualcomm isn’t exactly clear with their numbering system either, which doesn’t help :-).

            As for better, this device will likely run better than anything that came out in 2012, and possibly run as well/better than the 2013 devices so far.

          • Ben

            Probably a good point. I’ve got a One S that for the most part I’m pretty happy with. Would have liked Sense 5 and 4.2.2 but HTC seems to have killed it. I’ll probably keep on using it into 2014 though.

      • mustbepbs

        Uhh, my DNA runs an S4 Pro and it flies like the wind. It’s certainly not “old”.

        • cortesjues

          the DNA’s S4 pro is the quad core version which is much newer than the dual core version that the motox is running.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            Nope, they are architecturally identical. The only difference is that the S4 Pro quad swaps the integrated modem for two more cores. Overall, the S4 Pro dual is much more efficient since the modem is integrated, without a significant effect on user experience.

          • NexusPhan69

            Nice to know. Thanks.

          • kixofmyg0t

            But see that’s the thing. X has a different radio configuration than what the S4 Pro dual core supports. 802.11ac for example. Qualcomm said it doesn’t support it. The Xperia SP, which has a dual core S4 Pro doesn’t support 802.11ac just to prove that point. But according to the FCC documents X does.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            I’ve been pondering that from the get-go. My theory is that they have a yet-unannounced binned version of the snapdragon 600 that is locked to 2 cores. Its the only thing that fits everything we know, from speed to radio capabilities. It would also be likely to have an MSM8960 model number, so that would fit too.

            I just want it out already so we can all stop speculating and focus on whether or not it can deliver on whatever promises are made in the commercials/press event.

          • kixofmyg0t

            In a recent photo it showed X as having a rev 2.0 8960DT. What does the rev 2 mean? We’d have to see the same app run on a Xperia SP to be sure since it also has a dual core S4 Pro.

            Also what is the difference between the 8960T in the Xperia SP and the 8960DT in X? Things are pointing to X having a little more than what we know.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            That’s why I’m so freaking impatient. QUIT TEASING ME MOTO YOU HARLOT!!!

    • jaybar

      The(my) vzw gs3 has a 2100mah battery and gets through 24 hours easy

    • IHATEHIPSTERSSS

      and no sd slot google just doesnt want to give you choices, walled garden and all.

      • bkosh84

        lol, wut…

      • Tim Buchanan

        Gotta say, I am confused by Google’s recent decision to rely almost entirely on cloud storage. Feels like something Apple would do. But, nobody is forcing anyone to get an X. I’m hopeful that Motorola’s other upcoming offerings will provide greater options.

    • hans wee

      the nexus is a horrible battery sucking piece of crap of a phone. i had one.

      i’ve got a razr M right now which is fairly similar to the moto X specs (4.3″ screen , 1.5ghz snapdragon s4) and it probably gets double the battery life of the gnex with a 2000mah battery. i’d imagine the moto X will get similar battery life sicne its screen / cpu is bigger/faster but has 10% more battery

      • Joshua P.

        I used to be angry at my Gnex, then one day I installed greenify and had it shut down every app I dont use (FACEBOOK and more) now even with LTE on I get an entire day out of the stock battery. Performance is hugely improved.

        • hans wee

          yeah i had like lean kernel, all these roms etc. the fact i had to go to all this trouble to just barely make a gnex a useable phone was what made me give up on the whole nexus program. the nexus 4 gets pretty poor battery life too and it doesnt even have LTE. the razr m, without even doing anything actually just works. i just got tired of having to actively put work in to make my phone decent. with the way phones are these days its just unacceptable. i mean a bionic or razr (the pre HD one) have similar hardware to a gnex and they still get better battery life.

          • Mike Boodoo

            I can honestly say that the Nexus 4 is the first device that I’ve used and been able to get a full day from it. (I’m a heavy user) Yes, the GNex battery was terrible. I had 3 batteries in total, but I’m loving the Nexus 4 battery life.

          • Tim Buchanan

            I got you beat. I have 5 batteries for my GNex.

          • http://www.getintonursing.com/ Jon

            The Note II is huge, but has a huge battery as stock. You may want to consider that phone for it’s excellent all day battery life.

          • napes22

            I got tired of my GNex and bought a lightly used Note II off craigslist. Best decision I made. I can get more than a full day even with heavy usage.

    • http://androidforums.com/members/kwest12.html kwest12

      I’m just not comfortable with relying on the cloud for access to my data; the unfortunate fact is that I need my data in places that I can’t get a data connection. Also, if they were to take my unlimited data from me, I’d be screwed. 16GB is not enough – gonna be a pass for me.

      • Tim Buchanan

        Same. The 32gb GNex was a compromise for me, and I constantly found myself wishing I could have all of my music stored locally. Gonna pass unless they offer a 64gb model (which will never happen) or incorporate an SD slot (also highly unlikely). Looks like I’ll be grabbing that DROID Ultra.

        • http://androidforums.com/members/kwest12.html kwest12

          I haven’t kept up with it, but I think that’s probably the direction I’ll be going too, so long as the camera is top notch (at least competitive with the S4), the radios are top notch, the performance is as expected and the battery life is good if not great. Obviously there’s more to it than that, but those are all still the big question marks for me.

    • Lucky Armpit

      I’m fine with everything… CPU, battery, screen, etc. All of those specs are fine for me but what has taken the Moto X off the list for me is the paltry 16GB of storage. I understand that Moto is going for a certain price point with this phone but I just can’t do “only” 16 GB of storage with no SD Card slot. Will wait for the official specs of the Droid Ultra Maxx.

      • LiterofCola

        Yep, at this point, I need an sd slot. I COULD have put up with the rest of it’s specification downfalls, but that was the deal breaker for me.

    • Ned Danov

      Than you wait for Moto X MAXX :)))))))))))))

    • rodney11ride

      yep yep, went from my awesome gnex but poor battery life charging by 10am to a maxx hd and never looked back. unlocked and rooted. 18 hours battery life with 6 hours screen on time. love it… again my next phone will be solely based on battery.. the other stuff isnt much of a concern as long as its not on the charger!!! lol

  • AxemRed

    I’m still not 100% convinced about the supposed age of the CPU. While it’s labeled as a S4 Pro, the model number is one we haven’t seen before. And I’ve seen posts like this:

    https://twitter.com/nerdtalker/status/358365544652611584

    With the benchmarks and posts I’ve see around, I’m still holding out hope that it will have what amounts to a renamed dual core S600 CPU rather than something that is over a year old.

    Regardless, I am a little disappointed about the battery.

  • David Marzluf

    I want
    Moto build. 4.7 or 5 screen. Quad core. Micro SD. Removable battery. And on screen nav buttons

    • Bionic

      Then you will need to wait until 2014 and get the Motorola G, per sarge

      • David Marzluf

        I know I just hope my bionic lasts that long
        I would have gotten s4 but I hate there skin

        • Bionic

          Dude, i hate touchwiz too. All you have to do is disable a handful of apps and run nova launcher.

          Touchwiz killled

          • Chris Hannan

            It’s hard to believe all your insider info when you think TouchWiz is a launcher and a handful of apps.

      • Daeshaun Griffiths

        it’s good to see you make fun of yourself.

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Removable batteries are getting more and more niche. As efficiency improves and battery capacity increases, the need (and demand) for removable batteries drops. Non-removable is just easier and cheaper to build. As for the Galaxy brand, I doubt very seriously a majority of its owners care whether its battery is removable.

  • Bionic

    I am not buying the “super cheap off contract” crap.

    How about $549. Nothing special.

    • AxemRed

      I agree that people are getting their hopes up too high for the price. I’d like to think that it could be as cheap as $450, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if it was $550 through Verizon.

    • Franklin McCants Jr.

      What about those specs makes this phone crap, at 200 bucks?

      • Ben Edwards

        I think he meant the crap about it being “super cheap off contract”, rather than the device itself being crap.

        • Franklin McCants Jr.

          I had to read that again… thank you lol

          I’m kind of not buying it either, but if it is $200, it’d be a worthy pick up.

  • David Marzluf

    If it had micro SD then I would buy it
    But I will wait for beast moto X

  • David Marzluf

    No micro SD and only 16G that kills it for me

  • Bionic

    So exactly the specs that sarge said the whole time and that I forwarded to you guys.

    • CapnShiner

      You know, even though some people may appreciate your leaked info and even if it turns out to be accurate, you could toot your own horn a bit less. If you didn’t condescend to people, if you didn’t act like such a know it all, if you didn’t name drop sarge so often, maybe more people would like you. If you’re waiting to receive a gold medal for being right about the Moto X specs, you should get comfortable because it may be a while.

      • Bionic

        Its not about that. Its about all those people who for no reason at all responded with insults.

        Honestly you are right though. And no, i dont expect a medal of any kind.

        • CapnShiner

          No matter what you do, people will insult you for no reason. That’s just how discussions go on the internet. The important thing is to not give them a reason.

          • SA_NYC

            Well I like Bionic’s schtick on here, livens things up. Kind of like the heels in wrestling. Keep up the good work, Bionic, guy we love to hate.

          • Bionic

            I’ll be the undertaker

    • YdidntsargetellUnot2getbionic

      Dude, you say it’s gonna be like 3 or kore different sets of specs throughout the whole thing and when one matches up you claim that it is as predicted by you andsarge. Doesn’t work that way.

    • LucasMonroe

      Is there still this “hero” coming out or no?

  • Giovanni Palazzo

    I don’t quite understand it. The processor is the S4 Pro but it’s not like the Nexus 4?

    • Justin W

      The S4 Pro comes in two variants (core-wise, there are other variants, but they have the same number of cores) – dual core and quad core. The Nexus 4 has a quad core, the Moto X is rumored to have a dual core.

      • Giovanni Palazzo

        thanks!

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    I bet it has very accurate colors on the display.

  • Esmegma Medieval

    This looks incredible for 250-350 unlocked. They should make a BEAST phone after this, just to show they can.

  • guest

    Nothing to be excite about this phone…a least you are a big motofan lol Blurry pic taken with other Moto X lol

    • violator702

      It’s all about the price and software with this phone.

  • Deylune

    16GB of Storage and no MicroSD slot? that’s rough but for the average consumer it’s a different story.

  • pubasnacks77

    If this phone is >$300 off-contract, I would deeply consider it. I am itching for a new phone but am hesitant on blowing over $600 just to keep unlimited data

    • sk102704

      My thoughts exactly.

    • choogale

      If the phone is <$300, I'd consider. Not sure why you'd prefer a more expensive device.

      • http://www.techmantis.net/ Minja Miketa

        I was wondering the sane thing. This man wants his phone to be a minimum of $300.

        • drparty

          I think it’s more likely this man doesn’t know how to use a less than sign properly.

      • LiterofCola

        Bigger screen, better specs etc.

  • http://twitter.com/JohnnyACE562 GRAND MASTER SEN$Ei {{-_-}}™

    I guess I’ll buy it off-contract for Verizon’s radios and then sell it off on eBay once the “hero” comes out. {{-_-}}

  • radiohead14

    hmm.. if there’s no micro sd card option.. then how come one of the photos is showing 2 storage – memory and sd card? memory can’t be the same as ram here right? since ram is also noted separately…

    • CapnShiner

      That is a common configuration. Memory is the system partition and sdcard is the media storage area. For example, on my GS3, I have 2 storage locations called sdcard because I have an actual 32GB microsd card in it. There is sdcard and extsdcard or sdcard0 and sdcard1. Android is basically emulating an sdcard slot.

  • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

    I wish that the screen isn’t AMOLED. I am getting tired of my GNex’s AMOLED after seeing some non Pentile screen. The point is, I really can tell the differences, which bothers me a lot.

    • Adam Truelove

      The Gnex AMOLED is 2 years old. They look WAY better now. Do we know the Moto X is pentile?

    • kashtrey

      AMOLED =/= Pentile

    • CapnShiner

      Older AMOLED screens were almost all pen-tile and newer ones are too. The main difference is that newer screens are usually higher resolutions with higher pixel density. It becomes less and less noticeable as the resolution and density increase. Older macro shots comparing pen-tile and linear screens used to make me cringe at the thought of being stuck with a pen-tile screen myself. It’s not so bad anymore.

  • gcforreal

    if this phone is super cheap off contract i can understand the hype. but the specs dont even surpass the nexus 4 which is old news and was already cheap at its release. I just cant imagine this phone being much cheaper than the nexus 4 and with the specs thats leaked i just dont see the big excitement over this phone, maybe its more to it than we know

    • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

      If you are on Verizon or Sprint, you have no other choices if you want a 2012 spec phone with a near stock experience.

      • Jordan

        HTC One, Google Edition ROM.

    • kashtrey

      I think the lack in specs is what makes this phone interesting. There has to be something killer that isn’t spec related or else Google/Motorola wouldn’t have bothered with this phone.

    • Kanaga Deepan N

      Yes… Nexus4 is sold 299$, but its for 8GB model + NOT assembled in USA.. So I guess the off contract price for 16GB one will be around 399$… Still a good price, I think…

  • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

    Kellex the earlier leaks pointed to Multiple Storage options are we still expecting at least a 32GB?

    IF it’s only 16 my decision will be Auto Made for the VZW HTC ONE

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      @kellex:disqus

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      At this point, it appears to be only a 16GB model, but you never know.

  • AbbyZFresh

    16GB of storage.?

    Pass.

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      If it’s $200 off-contract, will you consider it?

      • violator702

        I would. I can’t upgrade without losing my unlimited data, and I don’t really want to pay $700 for another phone.

        • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

          Same here. This phone seems to be VZW users’ only gateway to keep their unlimited data plans without selling their kidneys :-)

          • Philip A. Kaiser

            Which might be something that Moto and Google recognize as a core customer.

          • MacNificent

            Tell me about it. I sold my pancreas for the gs3 on verizon, off contract. And this diabetes is kicking my butt! ))-:
            Florida University verizon!!!!

      • NexusPhan69

        I’m fine with $400 off-contract. I’ve already decided that this is the one and I haven’t even seen the press conference. Its all bonus at this point.

      • kixofmyg0t

        If its $200 off contract Moto will have to open another plant just to meet demand.

        • Capt. Crunch

          Only one?

          • hkklife

            My prediction: $99 on contract, $349-$399 off-contract ($299 at absolute best if Google and Moto are feeling particularly aggressive) for the non-Sprint/VZW versions (is GSM). The CDMA versions will be the traditional $500-$600 full retail.

          • William_Morris

            I certainly hope this isn’t the case.

      • me

        I’d consider for $200 off contact. But I doubt they make it that affordable.

      • Under the bridge downtown

        Depends. Verizon off-contract? That is usually a rarity. I only see GSM phones off contract at a low price.

        • hoosiercub88

          Exactly, Verizon will be $599 off contract if we’re lucky.

      • http://xn--wbg.com/ Michael Anthony

        $200 Off contract with a T-Mobile variant. I’m in as long as they have the white version that was posted yesterday.

      • Jonathan Reid

        What do you know that we don’t?!?!?!

      • Frank512

        I’m itching to upgrade from my Razr Maxx and will be buying full retail. While the specs are slightly disappointing (not so much dual vs. quad core for me), if this phone comes in at that price its going to make it a difficult decision! Not sure I can justify spending another $450 for something else (Droid Maxx?). $200 might be wishful thinking though. Not sure if this really is a big enough of an “upgrade” when I have more storage, bigger battery etc. already.

      • Kevin Guinn

        Kellex, are you really hearing this phone is going to be $200 off contract? Or are you just openly asking if people would want to buy if it’s at that price? I’d jump all over this if from $200-$400 off contract. $200 does sound sweet though.

      • Jordan

        If it was $200 off contract I’d buy one… & I already have an HTC One.

      • DJ SPY

        Yes but it’s built in the U.S. much more expensive to build than the Nexus 4. Do you think Google will eat that much of the cost?

        • onDroid

          It’s actually not that much cheaper anymore. Workers in China have started to get larger wages. Still incredibly low but larger. The amount saved by paying the workers less is becoming more and more offset by the higher taxes charged by both the Chinese and American governments. Also, the US government is offering incentives to get manufacturing brought back to the states. I’m sure Moto is paying absurdly low tax rates at their Texas plants. Let’s not forget shipping also. It’s not cheap shipping all your materials around the world for production and assembly and then shipping them all the way to the US for sale. If Moto has been able to centralize most of the manufacturing process in one location they may have pretty similar cost structure to that of manufacturing in China. Not saying it’s cheaper than outsourcing but cost disparity is not as large as you think it is.

      • bratliff

        I wish there would be a 32 gig option.. I don’t have any music or a ton of apps.. but I do like to take a lot of pictures of my kids etc. BUT if it is 200-300… AND pure google with timely updates.. I will sell the note 2 to pay for it and get a cloud for pictures.. Thanks VZW unlimited!

      • Marc Lewis

        I’ll just get the S4 if there is not an SD slot. My sister upgraded a couple weeks ago and kept the unlimited data (I am not bs-ing you, I was shocked too). Hopefully the store near me can do the same.

      • Bionicman

        Kellex if its 200 off contract, I WOULD get it and I don’t even need a new phone lol

      • http://www.unexpectedparameters.com Aaron Hurt

        If I can get it for 199-299 off contract for Verizon, I’m in. In fact, I can think of a ton of businesses who would be thrilled to shed their contract phones for off contract options.

      • Marsg

        At 200$ it would be a steal

      • NorCalGuy

        Why not 250-275 for a 32gb? 16 is just too small

      • Scott

        How are the specs lower in most areas? Maybe the screen resolution (barely) and obviously the CPU, but camera, radio, battery , ram are all the same or better.

    • kashtrey

      I used to think that way and then realized the majority of my phone memory is spent on nandroid backup and random crap. With streaming music I don’t really need that much internal storage

    • Adam Truelove

      No kidding, it’s too much. I don’t want to pay for storage I won’t use. After 2 years with my current phone, I’m using 5 GB out of 32. What a waste. Just give me 8 GB and give me a cheaper phone.

    • DainLaguna

      all those ringtones eh? i’m so sick of this. you represent a very tiny, but vocal minority of mobile device users.

      if it was really that big of deal….REALLY that big, all phones would have micro sd slots.

      all of em.

  • thedonxr

    Much Excite!

  • Johnny Rocket

    that battery better be the biggest break in technology or I might have to pass…

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      I mean honestly look at the specs. The HTC ONe has a 2300mah battery with a 1080p screen and a snap600. This phone will be just fine with a 2200mah

      • Under the bridge downtown

        My Vzn Galaxy Nexus with the extended battery is a dog and that is 2100 mAh.

        • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

          That’s more of an issue with the LTE Model. And the Radios in the GNEX which were terrible when I had mine

          • Under the bridge downtown

            If I got the Moto X, it would be LTE, too.

          • violator702

            The LTE radio and the OMAP didn’t play well together. Snapdragons are different beasts.

          • ERIFNOMI

            But Motorola is known for their radios. That’s what they’ve done for a long time. Their radios are top of the line and better signal means less battery usage.

          • Daniel Russell

            Tell that to my Bionic.

          • Big_EZ

            My Bionic ran great.

          • hkklife

            Mine too. Once ICS (and especially JB) arrived, the Bionic was like a totally new device.

          • Sacrifist

            Mine’s pretty laggy nowadays, especially with Chrome. Might just be due for a factory reset, though.

          • cortesjues

            pretty sure that it might just be chrome… chrome is a horribly laggy browser nowadays

          • Justin Ellenbecker

            I agree my GNex was the worst I have ever seen for radios and I am loving my RAZR HD. Samsung can’t get an LTE radio right to save their life. I hope their LTE-A radios are a lot better but based on the 2GB RAM I might have to take a look at getting the X for my wife. I am going to hold out and keep an eye on the new Droids when they drop.

          • hoosiercub88

            This^ The LTE radios were awful..

          • Philip A. Kaiser

            Exactly. Look what a GNex can do with the radios off.

          • Philip A. Kaiser

            On vacation using my phone for a radio and camera.

          • sc4fpse

            I have both the LTE and GSM models. I’m overseas at the moment, and have been using the GSM model for many months now. I have the extended slim battery from Samsung for the GSM model, and, unfortunately, my battery life is just marginally better than on LTE. The Galaxy Nexus really does suck for battery life… both models, unfortunately.

        • AxemRed

          It’s my understanding that the TI chip not being optimized for LTE and other hardware features in the Gnex contributed to the poor battery life. That being said, I am disappointed with the battery size. I was hoping for a larger than average battery. But I’ll read some reviews and give it a fair shake.

        • jaybar

          You can’t compare today’s tech, especially the lte radios, with something that came out in late 2011

        • Joshua P.

          For every comment about the Gnex battery I am posting this. Install greenify and have it hibernate every app you do not use. It changed my Gnex LTE’s life. It lasts all day now with battery to spare on my original stock battery.

          • Raj Bhatt

            Even though it is close to the end of it’s life, my GNex’s battery issues annoyed me enough to buy this ridiculous massive battery for it. It looks awful but at least it lasts 24 hours with moderate use now. I can’t wait for a new worthy device for me to upgrade to. If this Moto X is 200 bucks off contract I’ll bite.

            http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-Extended-Compatible-SCH-i515-CAPABILITIES/dp/B007C8XRJY

          • Joshua P.

            yes I did the exact same thing. Now it sits in my car as an emergency battery or for when I record very long videos. I can use my lte gnex all day with greenify set up aggressively.

          • Raj Bhatt

            I’m gonna check that app out today, thanks for mentioning it.

        • C-Law

          That’s cuz it’s an lte gnex. I ran mine with extended battery too and had it in cdma only with data off most of the time except when I need to use lte and it still wouldn’t make it through a day most of the time and normally got around 3 hours screen on time. I bought an s3 a few months ago and never turn off lte or data and get a whole day no problem now. With cm10.1 and on screen nav keys, I truly believe this is whatthe gnex should have been

          • Under the bridge downtown

            What is your on-screen time on the s3?

      • Dave

        That chip is much more efficient. Plus a dual core running at 1.7 is stretching the clock speed quite far, I’d guess at the expense of battery.

    • MichaelFranz

      i agree….im hoping 2200mah is some sort of new battery tech that doesnt drain as fast. i think that is really one of the main things the mobile industry needs. with LTE causing batteries to drain quicker and people using the devices more and more battery is first in my mind….we have the screens, cameras, and software. Its just new battery tech is whats needed. i wouldnt mind it taking longer to charge as long as it lasted 24 hours with heavy use