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New DROID ULTRA or MAXX Picture Appears With Red Racing Stripe on Back?

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The new DROID lineup will officially be unveiled on Tuesday during a Verizon event, but there are still plenty of details that are doing their best to avoid us. While we still do not know specs at this time (anyone claiming to know them are simply speculating), we do have what appears to be a new picture of either the ULTRA or the MAXX with a red racing stripe down the back. The source claims that this is a variant of the MAXX, but we were told that this may actually be the ULTRA. Either way, I’m kind of digging the red stripe rather than the full red back that we saw earlier in the week.

Previous reports suggested that the ULTRA would come in black, white, and red, with the MAXX only showing up in black. Maybe things have changed? Employee edition?

Via:  @srcleaks

  • zurginator

    Now will you guys believe me when I say this isn’t a legit render? No? How about when the real one drops?

  • Guest

    wait a minute, so let me get this straight now after reading the previous comments. The Ultra is the Hero phone is disguise now according to Bionic per Sarge ? didn’t Motorola come out and say that the Droid lines would be separate then the X lines. Now he’s speculating they’re throwing up blinders and it really is the Hero phone masked as a Droid phone ? Can someone call the rumor police I feel I’ve been aggravated rumor assaulted by Bionic.

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  • TMKvamme

    Why does the stripe not continue up to the top?
    That bugs me.

  • aDROIDfreeworld
  • joejoe5709

    Oh wow. Red stripe is full of win.

  • Zach B.

    CRAZY idea: Let’s talk about the phone, mmk?

    Seriously. Either Bionic is real along with his rumors (and their changes), or he’s a super bored troll. Everyone seems to hate him though… why? Because he incites discussion?

    And now we’ve spent half the thread jumping down his throat. If you don’t like him, ignore him.

  • Joshua Bailey

    I think this article on Androidandme sums up what we should expect from the Moto X pretty well. If this is true, the Moto X will obviously surpass a lot of my expectations of it.

    http://androidandme.com/2013/07/opinions/4-reasons-why-the-moto-x-will-live-up-to-the-hype/

  • Colton

    Am I the only person who loves the design of these new DROIDs? (I don’t care for the red stripe in this particular one though)

    • DJ SPY

      You’re not alone.

    • Zach B.

      I’ve never really disliked them… They are SOLID as a rock, they work well, and don’t look too shabby. This picture basically explains the current state of things to me…

  • 80am

    Employee edition HTC One! The all red variant!

  • kind

    I think that Bionic blabbers so many different predictions, and some contradict one another(he claims information changes), so that when the specs are finally released he can claim to “right”. If you say sarge says it will be “A”, now sarge says “B”, now sarge says “C”. If it ends up “B” you can’t say see, he was right.

  • 1BILLION_Androids

    The GLOSS and RED STRIPES are photoshopped;)

  • aDROIDfreeworld

    DROID RAZR MAXX HD ULTRA BLOAT

  • Alexander Garcia

    That red stripe on black is sooo f–kin’ HOT! I want one now! =)

  • Mike C.

    Racing stripes make the phone faster….

  • jh123416

    Is there really enjoyment in attacking RUMORS, SPECULATION, and UNCOMFIRMED REPORTS provided by Sarge and Bionic? They’re just passing along information that may or may not be true. C’mon peeps.

    • jose

      Yes, there is.

  • EC8CH

    I’d like to know how they expect to get that colored strip in the Kevlar weave. Unless they are planning on painting in on later. Either way… pass.

  • Bionic

    Ted and Kixofgt, here is what an expert computer programmer friend of mine has to say about your claims that these phones have some kind of special chips and cores.

    “if it’s some special architecture, good luck to anyone who buys one. I hope it works well out of the box cause you will *NEVER* see an update for it. The extra coding required to manage such an exotic architecture adds 2-3x the complexity. All that has to be ported each time an update is released. Good thing Moto has an excellent track record for timely updates…………….”

    • BenderBendingRodriguez0101001

    • Bionic

      Seems easier to put a snapdragon 600 or 800 inside does it not? We’ll see i guess……

      • kixofmyg0t

        Easier? Oh yes by far. But how far will the sledgehammer approach get you nowadays? Because by the time launch day is over Samsung will have announced yet another Galaxy S4 with better specs. Getting into a spec war is expensive and most users don’t know the difference anyway.

        Moto’s approach is much cheaper(no one said those other cores had to be Krait/A15 type cores). The dual S4 Pro holds up well. Especially since X’s is rev.2 . But the best part is that little S4 doesn’t have to do much anyway.

    • kixofmyg0t

      Exynos Octa throws your “expert computer programmer” theory out the window.

      Jus sayin.

      • Project Mayhem

        No expert computer programmer to be seen. If someone has to say “expert computer programmer” then clearly they don’t know anyone who is an expert computer programmer.

        • kixofmyg0t

          His “expert computer programmer” is probably just some guy that once upgraded from Vista Home Premium to Ultimate and that blew Bionics mind.

  • Andrew Weckerly

    I really wish that they would release a bunch of different colors. I personally would love to see some blue woven through the black. I know that’s kind of the whole idea behind the X (personalize it how you want it), but the styling of the Ultra is more to my liking.

  • Defenestratus

    Please tell me that this is the “Fast and Furious” edition line of phones and not the actual product.

  • Richard Albert McKenzie III

    To the people complaining who always use cases, stop. To everyone else, your arguments are probably valid.

  • Bionic

    I did say unconfirmed when I made my post right? Just saying……. Everyone is jumping on my back as if I stated it as fact.

  • Dave S.

    my buddy just did this option up… [EDIT: he only spent about 3 minutes on it, so it’s not too fancy, but still.]

    • brkshr

      Thanks for including the stripe above the camera. That was setting my OCD off.

  • David Wanless

    After seeing the all red ultra the other day I didn’t think it was possible for this phone to get any uglier…. guess I was wrong

  • brkshr

    I would think that if this was real, the stripe would also be above the camera.

  • Edwin M

    “If we put a racing stripe on it like our Hot Wheels, will it go faster like our Hot Wheels?” – VZW

  • spartan

    Have we seen either the Ultra, Maxx or Mini go thru the FCC yet?

  • jh123416

    Ladies and gents, scroll down and check Bionic’s new information. You’re welcome (if it’s true).

  • Ted

    I don’t know where Bionic is getting his info from now but the ultra is not going to have a snapdragon 800 or 4000m battery. Some of the stuff you have been saying on this site have been somewhat true, some absurd and I think your sarge is purposely giving you false info at this point.

    I trained on these devices and used them already and I can tell you that it does not have a 800 unless something crazy magical happened over night. But I used the ultra and whatever specs your talking about were not what I was using. That’s not saying the phone was weak either because it was extremely fast and smooth . I think you need to stop with your posts bionic because they are really getting out of hand with what your now claiming.I have been refraining from posting much due to sake of my job but sometimes I can’t sit here and see some of the stuff that gets posted.

    Wait till Tuesday to know the facts .

    • Josh C

      What are the specs then?

      • Ted

        Not saying, these phones aren’t about the specs. You will see soon enough that its the user experience thats going to be the big deal. Patience everyone. Few more days to see.

        • Josh C

          I’ll believe this when i see it. Blocking droid-life until tuesday.

        • Bionic

          So what i said about it being the moto x in disguise WAS TRUE then.

          • Ted

            No its not true at all. The only thing that’s true is that internally as far as processor goes the moto x , Maxx, ultra and mini will all be the same. Verizon is getting the moto x separately later on but right now the droid line will be the focus, with the x to follow not soon after.

            As far as them not being special, they are, maybe not to everyone’s standards for those that need to hear or see on paper how its a quad core phone, but these things will compete power wise with everything out now due to special chip , sensors and how optimized it is.

          • Bionic

            and yet, sarge has been telling everyone that there is going to be multiple x phones, looks like that was certainly true. I am not saying everything he says comes true, some things change before release.

            That is the nature of information, it changes all the time. And yet you act like an ASS to me when I have caused you no harm, i have simply passed along information.

          • Ted

            Wel I apologize for acting like an ass but when I read your claims below I was annoyed lol.. anyways their will potentially be a portfolio of x phones , all depends on success of the first one.

          • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

            Don’t listen to his jargon, most of what comes out of his comments is pure speculation.

          • Bionic

            Thank you. You need to realize one thing, I am not claiming to be the Android messiah here. I do this in my spare time before work because I love technology and I like to keep people informed of the possibilities.

            At no point have I claimed that sarge or anyone else’s information will be 100% correct. The nature of information negates that possibility.

          • brkshr

            You may not claim it, but you sure at like it.

          • jose

            Seriously. I can’t believe anybody actually believes anything that Bionic posts. I don’t even read them. I just see the red Droid eye avatar, downvote and keep on scrolling. Ain’t nobody got time fo dat noise.

          • Question

            Guys, guys, who CARES?! “When is this thing releasing?” – that’s the question!

          • Joseph Pojunis

            Not everyone is an “ass” just because they disagree with you.

          • Dave

            And Moto is so close to releasing its first device on JB…..already.

          • aDROIDfreeworld

            Are the new droid phones still running motoblur? Or stock with mega Verizon bloat?

          • Tyler

            Motoblur is very light compared to any other manufacturer skin. I’ve used a RAZR HD, which is where i base my opinion from. From old video leaks of the Moto X, it looked exactly like stock with the addition of their widget and added apps.

        • LiterofCola

          Still wouldn’tget it if it had dissapointing specs, good “user experience” or not.

    • kixofmyg0t

      You are absolutely right.

      We already have the specs,another Motorola device has the same specs except for screen and battery size but nobody wants to believe it. But even then we can’t yet talk about all the cores.

      Just a few more days.

    • Bionic

      I did say I wasnt sure yet and was waiting to hear from sarge didnt I?

      At first Sarge said these new droid’s would not be anything special, but then we got news of what I said earlier.

      I am perfectly willing to say it may not come true, we shall see.

    • Question

      What’s happening on Tuesday?

    • RoadsterHD1

      Since you had your hands on it, can you please tell me by just saying yes or no, does it have HDMI out?

    • RoadsterHD1

      Can you tell us if it has SD card expandable?

    • michael arazan

      Thought Bionic was talking about the Motorola Flagship device that is coming in October with those specs

  • Warwick

    Racing stripe gives you an extra 1.0GHZ processing power, 4GB of RAM. Forgot to say NO JANK!

  • Ryan Powell

    Verizon is letting me down if this is true. Such a great opportunity to get a big red check mark on there instead of just a red strip. Think bigger, Verizon.

  • Sqube

    I’m strangely aroused by this. Could… could Motorola possibly be making a phone that I want and won’t immediately regret having? That hasn’t happened since the OG Droid.

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    This is different, i’m on the fence if it looks good or not.

  • red014

    Everybody loves go faster stripes. That’s a scientific fact.

  • TheRobotCow

    I wished the Maxx came in other colors.

  • Brian P.

    Just when I thought I couldn’t be any less excited for the new Droid roll out…Bam! No thank you!

  • Bob

    Now we just need an oversized spoiler

    • http://www.naskaras.com/ Thanassi Karageorgiou

      And spinning rims

  • Verizon

    Does it come with free beer?

    • Glen Quagmire

      Mullet sold separately.

      • Verizon

        Seriously? That should be an included accessory.

        • sc4fpse

          Don’t worry – Verizon employees in-store will be sure that you are well-aware of the mullet accessory. No one will be allowed to walk out the door without paying $59.99 + tax for it.

      • Guest

        Sarge said mullet is included.

  • MichaelFranz

    to be seen in the next fast and furious movie. Carbon fiber and race stripes….

    i hope this is fake..

  • Stephen

    this looks pretty dumb. just make it either red or black.

    • http://www.baldypal.com/ BaldyPal

      I call “Photoshop BS”. Who’s with me?
      The Kevlar behind the stripe seems to look “off” from the Kevlar in black. Like they just laid a translucent red stripe over it in, well, Photoshop.

      • kixofmyg0t

        Its a badly photo shopped press render. Its fake.

        Nobody thought about it being kelvar and how much of a pain that would be to weave in a different color pattern like that. They might have thought about it that’s all.

  • WalkerNA

    I’m still on the fence about that menu button on the back of the device. I can’t help but assume I’d unintentionally hit it often and disrupt my user experience.

    • http://www.baldypal.com/ BaldyPal

      Are you referring to the 3 vertical dots on the bottom just to the right of the red stripe? I thought that was just another microphone….

      • WalkerNA

        I am and perhaps you’re right. It just looks a lot like the Options Menu icon introduced with ICS.

      • hkklife

        that’s just the noise canceling mic (also used for video capture audio). Nothing new–Moto has been doing those since the Droid X.

    • aDROIDfreeworld

      There isn’t a menu button on the back. Loll who told you that?!

      • WalkerNA

        I’m apparently an idiot. What looked to me like the android ‘Option Button’ on the back of the phone is apparently a noise canceling mic.

  • http://twitter.com/geoff5093 Geoff Johnson

    No.

    • Zach B.

      OK

  • Michael Valadez

    Personally, I would have liked SS stripes. I’ve always wanted my phone to look like that ’72 Chevelle model I built as a kid.

    • middlehead

      That I’d almost buy. But one stripe, no, never.

      • Scottyb112

        Yea, It makes it look like the Lg Revolution with one stripe. Id like two stripes also!

    • Lucky Armpit

      The racing stripe – or whatever you want to call it – may look cool but I never really understand the purpose of little visual things like that. Why? Because the vast majority of people put a case of some sort over their phone and there it will stay until they move on to another device. It could be plaid or polka-dotted on the back for all I care; if I go with the Ultra Maxx it will be in a case as soon as one is available,

      • LiterofCola

        People who are tearing this phone apart are the same people who wouldn’t even consider purchasing it since it’s not one of their beloved “Nexus” brand. This stripe actually looks sexy.

    • NIGHTSCOUT

      I thought you were referring to a different SS

  • Brendan Small

    No, please.

    • zurginator

      Don’t worry, none of these are real. Hell, the red line on this one doesn’t even line up with the CF weave — it would be impossible to manufacture.

  • capecodty

    The carbon fiber and racing stripe are for speed.

    • sc0rch3d

      and for aerodynamcy improveness

    • Bowen9284

      don’t forget about speed holes…

  • Bionic

    Ok guys, I dont have any confirmation on this. But it is very possible that the droid ultra is the hero x phone in disguise.

    Talking about a snapdragon 800 with the moto x sensors.

    This could be a big deal.

    • Zach B.

      Gimme a big ol battery and you won’t hear many complaints from me.

      • Bionic

        yes it has a huge battery, i believe its 4000mah but not for sure on that yet

        • Zach B.

          sweet

        • zach471

          That alone might be reason enough…

          • Bionic

            especially considering the 800 will be even more power efficient than the 600 is

    • Stephen

      o0o0o interesting!

    • Joshua Bailey

      So possibly hero only on Verizon?

      • Bionic

        correct, or at least they are first

        • Joshua Bailey

          Interesting. Still like the Moto X appeal better at this point, but an 800 with the software optimizations from the Moto X would be killer.

        • Lunkman

          So will there still be another in October, or is this it???

          • Bionic

            i believe this is it

          • hkklife

            So….this might end up being a ”better than hero” device if we care about such things as microSD slots and imminent VZW availability? Sign me up!

    • Jeremy Martin

      Since we are able to speculate without confirmation maybe its that Nexus 4 LTE device you swore was coming from confirmed sources :P

    • jh123416

      My brain… just.. COMBUSTED.

      • Bionic

        mine too, this came out of left field. Basically we’re not sure yet but its a strong possibility.

        • jh123416

          When did this news come out? And why are we (you) leaning towards this as a strong possibility? If true, I’m in!

          • Bionic

            this morning, and the reason im not sure yet is because we are waiting to hear from sarge about it.

          • jh123416

            Got ya. Fingers crossed that is real and true. When would it launch? Besides the Moto X?

          • Bionic

            soon, August probably, especially given all the leaks of late

            verizon has not yet signed the contract for the moto x so I am wondering if they are gonna only carry this?

          • Joshua Bailey

            LOL. Just like Verizon to do something like this. When that report came out that VZW was going to carry the Moto X without the Droid brand, I pretty much said to myself “I’ll believe that when I see it.”

          • Bionic

            yeah it does fit them and their history for sure

          • jh123416

            With the specs mentioned about, go ahead and throw some “D’s” on that.

          • Justin W

            The thing is, though, a device with their bands has already passed through the FTC, so Moto’s already invested money in ensuring a device on their network works. I don’t think Moto would have done that unless they were sure Vzw would sign the contract for the device.

        • Daniel Russell

          So, like always, nothing is confirmed.

          • Bionic

            yes, correct, not confirmed

          • Justin W

            I don’t get this – people whine about things being “not confirmed”, but I don’t know any rumors that can be completely trusted as true unless they are confirmed by the source (in this case, Moto), which won’t happen unless they spontaneously announce the device. All of the info Bionic posts, and any prototypes in the wild could potentially be accurate or inaccurate, but no one will know for sure until Moto announces it.

    • spartan

      I was already planning on buying the Maxx as a temporary solution until the Hero X in Oct or even wait until 2014 for the Nova you’ve mentioned. Keep us updated.

      • Bionic

        Haha, well I have more news on the nova

        • spartans

          Let me guess …. Ultra = Hero X and Maxx = Nova???

          • Bionic

            No, the Nova is now renamed the “G” and its still coming in 2014 with moto x type sensors

          • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

            Now it’s made by LG as well.

          • Joseph Pojunis

            And it actually doesn’t exist. Oops

          • tyguy829

            I think you are missing one detail. I heard the october hero x phone was canceled and is being merged with the nova/g for early 2014. Thhe august moto x will be the last motorola phone for 2013.

            And guys, bionic is not trolling. I’m not saying his source isn’t wrong sometimes, but he is not making any of this up himself. If you want proof, i can go get you a link that verifies this stuff

          • kixofmyg0t

            Oh PLEASE do. Please find a credible link that says X had a Tegra4….then quad core S4….now just a dual core S4 with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING else in it. Oh and please provide a link to show how the dual core S4 Pro supports 802.11ac like the FCC documents show…because even Qualcomm says it doesn’t.

            Please link us to a credible source that says Ultra has a Snapdragon 800 and a 4000mAh battery. Because those are just some of the things he’s been saying.

            I’ll go get the popcorn. Dis gon be gud.

          • tyguy829

            Ok so here’s the deal. There is this thread at brighthand.com where these guys Virinder and Drillbit have been talking about Motorola for months. They seem to have the exact same info as bionic, so one of them is either sarge, sarge gets his info from them, or they get info from sarge. Not sure of the hierarchy. Anyway.

            Tegra 4 (this was all the way back when the X was being called Moto NXT)
            http://forum.brighthand.com/smartphones/287274-im-looking-new-phone-26.html#post1870849

            Wireless AC/Proccesor talk
            http://forum.brighthand.com/smartphones/287274-im-looking-new-phone-49.html#post1873286

            Moto X Hero/Atom/Nova Specs (Back on 5/5)
            http://forum.brighthand.com/smartphones/287274-im-looking-new-phone-37.html#post1872281

            Now here is where Bionic got confused. According to these guys, the Hero X for October has been merged with the Nova/G slated for early 2014.
            http://forum.brighthand.com/smartphones/287274-im-looking-new-phone-59.html#post1874414

            Instead, he combined the October X had being “canceled,” with evleaks saying 800 in the ultra and those leaked storyboards saying 48hour battery etc, and arrived at the conclusion that the Ultra/Maxx might actually just be the hero x phone. (He clearly said this was an assumption and had not been comfirmed with sarge)

            I know he isn’t right about everything, but he certainly isn’t making stuff up and i actually appreciate him fuelling discussion here. Why you hatin?

          • kixofmyg0t

            Yeah I’m gonna go ahead and shut all that down.

            The Tegra4 thing is false. No need to address that.

            The 802.11ac spec. According to Sony’s own Xperia SP white paper(because its a S4 Pro dual core powered phone just like X and Ultra) it doesn’t support 802.11ac. Just throwing that out there.

            The X/Atom/Nova page is absolutely hilarious. I only see 3 things that are close to accurate. 1280x1080p? LOL.

            He’s totally making all this crap up. If he was close to reality or wasn’t so adamant about his “leaks” being right I wouldve cut him some slack. He’s claimed to know everything before and its only today that he’s back peddling because of downvotes and evidence saying otherwise. I normally just laugh at his comments, I’m not hatin I find him hilarious.

          • tyguy829

            Of course it isn’t all true. All I’m saying is there is actually some ‘source’ where he gets all his info. Since this is the only other person that has every mentioned the nova, atom, etc. on the internet other than bionic, there is actually some inside person out there who is leaking info. I do think some of it is correct, but like with every company, things change over time, and sometimes people ‘in the know’ even get things wrong

          • kixofmyg0t

            Ultra is both XT1080 and XT1080M(MAXX)

        • TheRobotCow

          I hope the Nova doesn’t do to the Ultra what the Razr did to the Bionic.

    • kixofmyg0t

      Oh god I can not wait to call you out on being wrong.

      • Bionic

        did i say confirmed? Some information came our way but wasnt sure about it, i posted it reflecting that. What is the problem?

        • kixofmyg0t

          The “problem” is you’re WAAAY off base on both X and Ultra.

          I don’t know where you get your info from but it is hilarious.

          • Bionic

            hence why i said unconfirmed

      • Josh C

        Just call him out now then….what the hell are you and spartan waiting for?

        • Bionic

          i love how people love to jump on my back even when i post something as unconfirmed.

          • Josh C

            According to what they are saying, you are partially right. Your first comments were that they are possibly the same phone.

            “The only thing that’s true is that internally as far as processor goes the moto x , Maxx, ultra and mini will all be the same.”

            Not sure why they are so critical either.

          • Bionic

            Yup, I acknowledge that, information can be twisted a million times before it gets to me. I am the first one to acknowledge that.

        • kixofmyg0t

          I could. But the problem is until next week anything I say can just be dismissed as “speculation”.

          He’s said X is “only” a dual core, Ultra has a Snapdragon 800….oh and remember when he swore up and down it had a Tegra4? Yeah its all been amusing reading his crap that “sarge” tells him.

          • Bionic

            the tegra 4 was a rumor that sarge shot down quickly.

            Information changes all the time. some people appreciate me keeping them in the loop.

            There is no reason to become hostile over the damn internet about it. Its the damn internet.

          • Josh C

            Take all the speculation out of it and call it. That is all I’m saying. Otherwise, its all the same speculation and who the hell cares if Bionic is off when it comes out? At least he’s given DL readers something to discuss over the past few weeks/months.

          • Bionic

            thank you

          • kixofmyg0t

            I’ve already posted the specs. Bionic argued with me and said I was wrong.

            We can both say specs, but until next week it can all be speculation. Hell I could take it apart and show the motherboard and it wouldn’t help. Remember when people posted pics of X with a measuring tape laying across the screen? Yeah that didn’t put the 4.3″ screen rumors to rest.

            But I’ll humor you with X specs because that’s safer to talk about. S4 Pro 1.7Ghz dual core, 6 other cores, 8 total. Don’t think of it like one 8 core processor. UI and user threads are on the S4.

            Motrola isnt in a spec war with Samsung, as they have shown that no matter what specs it has Samsung can just release another Galaxy S4 next week with better paper specs. If all you care about is what looks better on paper in bullet points then X (and Ultra) is not the phone for you. If you care about user experience and can deal with a icon pack over stock android then give X a chance.

            If you want X with a bigger screen and “does this thing ever need charged? Jesus” battery life then DROID is for you.

          • Josh C

            That’s just it, I’m not concerned about top of the line specs, otherwise I would have gotten the S4. I’m concerned with feel, experience, battery life, and a manageable form factor.

            And give me all the battery life possible. Good bye GNex.

            EDIT: And I never for one second believed it would be 4.3″. Didn’t make sense and honestly looked bigger just from the photos.

          • kixofmyg0t

            Some people are still convinced its 4.3″.

            I hinted it when the FCC filing news broke. It supports 802.11ac….but the dual core S4 Pro doesn’t according to QCom. So that’s the first hint that maybe more is in there than just that S4.

      • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

        Why do you have to wait?

      • Guest

        Glad I’m not the only one who finds Bionic to be annoying. Look at all the downvotes he has too.

        • brkshr

          You would think he could take the hint.

          • Tyler Durden

            Downvotes don’t mean jack shyt lol, calm down ya prima donnas

          • Project Mayhem

            Oh great, Bionic’s wife just showed up

          • brkshr

            Why do we have the up & down vote capabilities then? To show what others do & don’t agree with, showing popular opinion. It’s been pretty apparent that popular opinion is that the majority disagrees with anything Bionic has to say now. I’m sure his down votes would be at least doubled if Guests could down vote as well.

            I held back my opinions about Bionic for the first few months. Then he posts that he will call me out on one of my “speculations”, obviously stated as speculation. So now I don’t feel the need to hold back my negative comments towards him.

          • Tyler Durden

            What’s your point? Trying to be the big bad wolf or tasty sheep? Downvotes are mostly for whiny people who are too scared to give a reply.

          • Project Mayhem

          • LiterofCola

            Exactly.

    • Tyler

      Even if you happen to be right. You still are the boy who cried wolf too many times.