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Hangouts for Android and Chrome is Live!

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Google Hangouts, the new unified and cross-platform messaging service announced by Google at I/O, is now live on all platforms. For most of us, we care about Chrome and Android, but if you are an iOS user, you can find it in the App Store as well. Go grab it!

To install to your phone, you’ll need to install through the web Play store for the time being. This replaces Google Talk. Screenshots after the break! 


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  • Kevin Bojarski

    I guess I meant for of an improvement in terms of UI.

  • Kevin Bojarski

    I guess I meant for of an improvement in terms of UI.

  • Jo

    I upgraded it and within 5 minutes uninstalled it. I do not want all the businesses and my 1000+ FB friends on my Hangout lists. I use this with 2 people ONLY! We need to be able to filter those out we don’t want to show up … fix it.

  • Warbadger

    Had to manually download the APK to actually install, as my SIII would just say that it was already installed.

  • Derek Ross

    How do you use Hangouts in Chrome for desktops? It says the extension is downloaded, but I can’t seem to find a way to open it. Gtalk used to be in my system tray and was easy to access.

  • TobinTeacher

    So I went into Google Play and supposedly updated Talk to Hangouts, but Talk has not been replaced on my phone. When I go into my apps drawer it still says Talk is installed, but when I go on to Google Play is says Hangouts is installed. Anyone else have this problem? Any help?

    • CivilDroid

      I have the same thing. Running CM 10.1 on Droid Razr. I tried to disable Talk and then go to the Play store and it only gives an option to enable Hangouts. It may be because Talk is part of the Gapps for my ROM but i dont know for sure. When i open it, it just looks like Talk and nothing like the new Hangouts either…

  • Kerry Fath

    Just got a update….not much of a change…

  • etg9

    Everyone is on this SMS thing which I agree would be awesome, but I really want this to work in GMail. Why is no one making a sound about the fact that this didn’t even get put into Gmail? I don’t use Chrome. I don’t use Google+, I use Gmail all day long. This was the biggest mistake as that’s the audience that wants to use this that are excluded.

    How is this unified if it doesn’t work on one of the biggest Google products?

    • PSU_DI

      I haven’t tried it directly in gMail, but I was under the impression that it had integration to gMail or at least that it will. The Verge’s article about Hangouts says it’s integrated.

      “How Google built its new messaging platform for Gmail, Android, iOS, and Chrome… and what took so long”

      In any case I agree with most people that unless they intergrate SMS this will just be another messaging app that won’t be used via mainstream. I actually switch to Facebook Messenger when Chat Heads came out. I don’t use facebook at all but since I was able to enable SMS integration it’s been great. My biggest complaint is that it does’t MMS, so once in a great while I still have to open the Messages app.

      I was really hoping that Hangouts would just do all the heave lifting for me and if the recipient I choose used hangouts, G+ messenger, talk, or even Gvoice that it would simply send it that way otherwise it should just send it out via SMS or MMS..

      If Hangouts worked that way it would have replaced talk, G+ messenger, Google Voice & the Messaging app on my android phone. As it stands I still have 4 messaging apps on my android phone that are all created by Google.

  • Bretton Key

    I really don’t feel a need for them to integrate sms. The purpose for this is just have a fluent cross platform/user base. Long as it’s reliable, can send files, and allows for video chat (not to mention with multiple people) what more could you ask for? Eventually they I hope that this messaging will support maybe an internal browser that you can share what you are viewing like if you are hanging out and looking at the same youtube video or let’s say website. And make notes together with another person to make this more of a collaborative app

  • Steve Benson

    The only logical (selfish?) reason for omitting SMS for the launch of Hangouts is to try and gain Google+ users. Think about it. Right now thousands of Hangout users are inviting non Google+ users to try out Hangouts. How do you use Hangouts? You must have a Google+ account. Myself alone, have invited a half dozen family members to test out Hangouts, none of which are current Google+ users. Free marketing for Google.

    Once Google sees a sufficient influx of users, bam they push a new apk to the play store that magically adds SMS integration. I bet this happens soon.

  • Redsun

    Doesn’t seem to work right. It’s not in my app drawer (Talk still is), but it shows up in My Apps in the Play Store. How can I even Uninstall it?

    Razr M

  • Tim Swann

    The only way this will gain mass adoption like iMessage did is if it can integrate as seamlessly as iMessage does. I don’t want to install another app for this. I don’t think anyone wants to. It needs to be built into the Android OS, but more specifically into the Messaging App just like iMesssage is. The reason why iMessage is popular is because users don’t need to isntall another app and the device can detect when recipients are also iPhone users automatically going through iMessage.

    Sorry Google, but I’m very disappointed.

  • How do you even tell which friends are online like you could in GTalk? Im not sure I understand the concept here… the list of friends is so damn cluttered its basically useless. You have to leave conversations open just to quickly find someone, and there is no indication if they are even online!

  • Kerry Fath

    Here is the fix if you have issues installing. I have a rooted GNEX and installed titanium backup. Removed Google Talk and Installed Hangouts. The issue I was having is that the play store said I had Hangouts installed but talk was still showing up in my app list and running.

    • Guest

      Here is the fix if you have issues installing. I have a rooted GNEX and installed titanium backup. Removed Google Talk and Installed Hangouts.

  • Elliot Kotis

    I can’t replace TALK with hangouts.

  • Brandy

    Everyone has to be on Google+?! How do they really think this is going to contend with WhatsApp, FB, etc. if G+ is required? Ha! I’d be much more inclined to encourage my friends/family if there was GV integration, but there’s no way – NO WAY – I can sell them on this. There simply has to be something that sets this apart from the other IM apps, and if it exists, they didn’t show it today. In fact, it seems like they’re still behind. And they’ve made it more confusing. I don’t get it. They’re Google and this is 2013 – how are they not leading in this area??

    I’m definitely keeping Google Talk on my Galaxy Nexus until they can A) integrate with SMS, or B) show statuses. Keep working, Google…….

  • Google+ app’s messenger is still there on my device, after upgrading talk to hangout…!! I was thinking this messenger will get deleted.

    I haven’t used it thoroughly so far, but first impression, I’m disappointed. The “New hangout” window (where all contacts show up) is all kind of screwed up.

    1. The six people tile – those are supposed to be people I chat with most often. Except, hangout is showing me people I’ve exchanged a lot of mails with. They are not necessarily my ‘contacts’. 2 of those 6 are my app customers with whom I had a lot of back n forth mail exchanges, providing app support.

    2. Frequently contacted – ummmm… no. I rarely contact these people. And some of these people I’ve never contacted at all. Kevin, developer of Nova Launcher, whom I had sent 2 mails and circled in G+, is in this list. And entire circles are in this list. Tap it and a group chat starts. i.e. Same list has users as well as groups. Very bad thing to do.

    3. And then all contacts. From my phone’s address book. I’m guessing this is for upcoming SMS integration.

    In all three breakups, figuring out who is online is kinda difficult. It took me a little time to notice that some pictures are brighter and others are kinda grayed out. That’s how you differentiate between online and offline?? Difficult.

    • That grayed out method only works on portions of your entire list. Scroll down to the phone list, and they are all bright. They really really need to give a list of GTALK active users. Until then, this is garbage.

      • Exactly. It doesn’t work for me as a chat client; at all. I need to see who’s online. What’s the use of looking at ‘frequent contacts’ who are not online? I’m rolling back the update.

  • Keith

    If installing from the web Play Store and it still shows up as the old Talk, make sure you have the Google+ app installed. If not, install, reboot and then reinstall Hangouts again from the web Play Store. Should work.

    • Q

      Well I got it to finally install. Unfortunately I have no clue what I did. I uninstalled Google+, Uninstalled the App store updates, rebooted, reinstalled google+ and let app store auto update.. I signed out out of google on the computer and signed back in. Then my Note 2 wouldnt show up in Google Play for 30 minutes. Finally it reappeared and this time it let me install the Hangouts app.

      Google sucks at this lol 🙂

  • Tyler

    I think that this is a step in the right direction and they are taking baby steps to make it just right. I think in order for this to be a hit and change the way we communicate, it will need to replace the idea of texting someone. Which means it will need to be backwards compatible with sms, along with moving forward with communication on smartphones. This needs to be able to communicate with non-smartphones, while not forcing this upon users. So I think they need to keep messaging app while adding the aspects of it to this app. It will use IM style messaging with texting as a backup plan. It needs to use the phone number on the phone as an ID to the account instead of a google account. Once that is in place when you send a message it checks if the users phone number is a user of the app and sends it through the service or as a text message if not. Online presence isn’t important because it revolves around the idea that we always have our phone on us and that if we need to tell you something we don’t wait until your online, we just say it and you’ll respond when you get the chance. This is what Google Hangout needs to be in order to be successful. But that’s just my opinion.

  • Q

    Anyone get this working on the Note 2 or GS3? It says installed, but I still have Talk instead. Tried rebooting, force stopping talk, installing from web play store link, etc, etc.. no dice 🙁

  • So why is everyone disappointed when they released what was expected. it was even an article here in april :


    And that SMS and Voice support is coming “eventually”. Being disappointed at this is like being disappointed that somebody didn’t bring drinks to your party, when they told you they were bringing cake.

  • Kayak83

    I was pretty exited about this upgrade to the Talk app, but it mostly seems like them jamming Google+ down my throat if I wanna use the extra new features.

  • Jovan Givens

    Confirmed SMS support? Around comment #15 or so https://plus.google.com/u/0/116138495312395339358/posts/XNRAQThToay

    So stoked!

  • valapsp

    Not compatible with Nexus 7?

    • Daniel Clifford

      You are not alone

  • xzombiex66

    Im starting to really hate this serivce now…at first i liked it but now that im using it, it sucks! example- when in a chat going back to the friends list is a pain in the ass same for going between multiple chats. also the friends list is so cluttered there needs to be a filter option. also no way to tell who is offline or online.

  • Jon Wolff

    I uninstalled the update until they add a way to tell who’s online/offline

    Or am I missing something?

  • Mordecaidrake

    I wouldn’t go that far, it’s still huge upgrade over Google Talk which I used daily. I’m sure they’ll add support for SMS shortly.

  • EraserXIV

    Uninstalled it too. Interesting ideas and I applaud the effort, but it seems like it wasn’t completely thought out and is poorly implemented. I expected more from Google, especially since they had years to come up with this..

    • Sean Royce


      • EraserXIV

        Definitely not a 1 star, it’s a great app and very well built, just not what I’m looking for in a messaging service. I’ve reinstalled it to give it another shot, still on the fence, maybe down the road it’ll grow on me.

        • slickorange

          I completly agree with Eraser… App seems good, but I am confused – Google Talk always showed the online contacts at the top with green symbols – now I am unsure of who is online or not and I am only seeing random contacts, how do I sort my contact list to show the people I want (and who is online or not..) Really lacks some basic features!

          • Steve Thornton

            the reason for this is IT IS GOING TO BE FOR TEXTING/MESSAGING! why do people not understand this. read the permissions and it explains it all. This is going to be googles imessage it is just going to take a bit to implement the texting/MMS.

        • Sean Royce

          I’m sure it will get the updates we want soon enough. Programming isn’t as easy as one might think.

      • EraserXIV

        Okay, here are some reasons I’m not jumping on the bandwagon just yet. It seems very sloppy, especially from a communication standpoint, which is unacceptable for a MESSAGING service.

        Who are all these random people on the contacts list? Random people I e-mailed once or twice? How can I actually contact people I care about? Oh you need them to sign up for a Google+ account, and then download the app. But wait, before they download it they need to transition over from Talk and activate Hangouts on their computer through Chrome… yeah good luck getting everyone you know to do that.

        Who’s online, who isn’t? People who don’t have Hangouts installed or signed up for still show up on the list.. what happens when I send a message to them? Can I be sure, they get the message? Does it get converted to a Talk message, or a Messenger message, or a GMail message and then sent to them? How are they going to reply? I would them rather not show up at all if they don’t have Hangouts installed or signed up for.

        What was awesome about Whatsapp is that you just tell someone to download the app and BAM, you can message them given they’re in your phonebook.

  • JustinRadice

    Did that and now hangout won’t connect to my Google account

    • Kerry Fath

      Same issue here…uninstalled reinstalled uninstalled now it says hangouts is installed but its not….so I am stuck. Cant remove from web either…system app… I give up at this point..

  • Julian Coronado

    My problem: The app is still showing up with the picture of Talk! Someone want to help?

    • are you using a launcher?

      • Julian Coronado

        I was, but I got it to work now. Thanks anyways!

  • I’m still stuck with the old Talk app. I’ve tried rebooting, clearing cache, installing from the Play website, disabling and re-enabling, etc. No go.

  • Anthony Saylor

    I updated it, and now i get notifications for both talk and hangout.. any ideas on how to stop the talk ones from popping up? long press and app info just takes you to google services framework

  • Masta Marc

    Smh. I thought this was going to replace the messaging app on android. Not be another kik…whatsapp…gtalk…voxer…etc etc I’m kinda disappointed. I was thinking it’d be the answer to iMessage.

  • Dolan

    Gugel pls, accualy iz disappiontnig

  • devinbryce

    why has mine not updated talk yet i went in to download hangouts and it said replaced talk so i soft reset the phone and it still only brings up talk not hangouts any help

  • Adam Metzner

    SMS should have died years ago. Now they are tying all the phone numbers with an online equivalent, when it does die (and it will) there will be no loss.

    • Mordecaidrake

      While I agree, but right now I’m fragmented between gTalk and SMS/MMS. So why not just add the feature?

    • Sean Royce

      SMS is still around, and I like it, mobile internet is pretty reliable, but it’s 100%.

  • LaRocKa1158

    I have a Samsung galaxy note 2 and for some reason talk is not updating… any tricks to get hangouts to work?

    • Adam Metzner

      Have to install it from the web play store. It says it above.

      • LaRocKa1158

        I tried that already. I also restarted my phone and cleared caches

  • e_droid

    Do I need to uninstall Talk for changes to take effect?

  • Ravi Rao

    I’m loving this new interface for hangout chat and google+. SMS is less of a concern for me when most of my friends use google talk.

    I used to use gmail to access gtalk. Am I supposed to now use G+ to access my chat, or will gmail have this hangout interface?

  • That Chrome extension is terrible. Is that officially from google? It doesn’t clear a notification on my phone like hangouts in Google+ desktop does.

  • Ross

    I know probably no one cares but me but does anyone know about the AIM/Google Talk integration and if it will continue?

  • saint_stephen

    Anyone able to provide a link to the update APK? The installation via web Play Store approach from the Play Store does not seem to work on my Nexus 4. It now shows up as “installed” under My Apps but I still only have Talk on my device. Checking via the Play Store app I see the same and when I click “open” for Hangouts it merely opens up Talk.

    • JetBlue

      Uninstall talk and install Hangouts

      • Q

        Cant uninstall talk. It’s a system application. It’s never been updated, so there’s no option to uninstall updates either.. (Note 2)

    • reboot. reinstall via web app, click on the “installed” button anyways.

      • saint_stephen

        I have done this multiple times to no avail. 🙁

        • Sorry man. Worked for me this way without issue. 🙁 Are you getting an error after it downloads?

          • saint_stephen

            It actually just never downloaded on my phone. Now when I click ‘installed’ on the web interface I cannot even select my device to have it installed remotely… Argh.

          • Q

            Same here.. assume they’ll fix it sooner or later..

  • Some of you people are acting like little babies, really. Wah wah wah.

    All of the features are not fully available yet, nor is it actually published in the search results of Google Play. The only reason people have it is by following an unpublished link.

    Be patient. The service hasn’t even begun rolling out yet and everyone is already crapping on it.

    • I found it via searching. lol. however I agree its missing some features sure to come. However, that doesn’t mean we as users can’t be disgruntled that those obvious features shouldn’t be there at launch. The service is currently limited to G+ users and that isn’t what its aimed at being.

      • No, it’s not. It has nothing to do with Google+ other than being available there for you to use. It’s replacing Google Talk, meaning anyone with a gmail address already has it. It’s the reason why I’ve been able to chat with people who don’t have Google+ accounts using the new app.

  • Steve Benson

    Sideloaded this on my Nexus 7 and it works fine. I wonder why you can’t install through the Play Store yet?

  • bakdroid

    This is becoming the norm with Google….garbage in garbage out. If this unified everything it would be worth something. But it doesn’t….so pointless. And its even worse that 99% of the devices it refuses to work correctly, either through incompatibility or stating it is already installed even though it isn’t. The only thing the fruit actually does right is when they say they are releasing something….it is released not this beta crap.

  • Matthew Fura

    I thought this was supposed to replace Messenger too. It removed GTalk when I installed, but Messenger is still working and listed in Apps. So far, Hangouts is, is a re-branded Talk, which, IMO, is a major fail after all the hype.

  • to install- uninstall Talk through Titanium Backup, then download Hangout through the Play store. this worked for me-

  • Scott

    Just as useless as before, but at least it has a nice interface. Officially let-down.

  • Kevin Igoe

    so my sister can get it on her iPad but I cant on my nexus 7, xoom wifi, or nexus 10…..

  • 1) if its not installing… try rebooting phone first and then choose “install” through the web play store (even if it says installed). ti will then work and fully replace Talk.
    2) The app has perms for SMS. Its coming. Be patient.
    3) The app is great with a ton of possibility and will be amazing once its fully integrated across all channels of communication.

    • Adam Emshwiller

      i agree with everything you said up there.. people just need to chill for 4.3 and the new GAPPS to allow communication internally on the phone.

    • There is no Install option, there is only Open. Pressing Open just opens the old Talk app. The play store thinks the new Hangouts is installed, but all I have is the old Talk app on my phone.

    • Tim242

      The SMS permission is for the initial text in the setup process.

  • Derek Ross

    Not compatible with Verizon Galaxy Tab 10.1? Um okay, Gtalk works fine on it.

  • Adam Emshwiller

    i think the new Hangouts will incorporate SMS and google voice once 4.3 and the new GAPPS get released.. they can’t update the SMS app through the playstore so im sure there needs to be a new line of code for the two to talk to each other.

    settle down people.. the roll out is coming.

    • KevinC

      actually, no. SMS does not need to be updated for Hangouts to do SMS. how do you think all of the SMS apps in the Play Store work?

      • Adam Emshwiller

        the permissions are there… but i would assume they would “remove” the SMS apk which they can not do via the play store. shouldn’t need duplicate apps if Hangouts does it all.

  • joseph pastor

    This is quite disappointing…….

  • JustinRadice

    Anyone else having issue with it not updating on device properly. Shows hangout in play store but opens as old Google talk app( same icon). Using rooted S3 on AOKP

    • Jacob Bird

      yes… pisses me off

    • reboot. choose install through web app.

    • Alex Hutchins

      Install it from the Play store on the desktop. That is how I got it to install.

    • Tim242

      Uninstall talk with titanium.

      • JustinRadice

        Did that and now it won’t sign into my Google account

        • Tim242

          All you have to do is click your sign in already listed.

  • Daniel

    Ugh, this is so bad, why is there no contact list of online buddies, or really ANY list of chat contacts besides G+ contacts or ALL of my phone contacts combined? I uninstalled and am very happy I’m rooted and had a Titanium Backup of Talk, since uninstalling Hangouts removes Talk from your phone with no easy way to restore it.

    • Tim242

      It will be auto replaced

  • Anyone having issues getting the confirmation SMS?

  • Nick

    How badly will it eat up bandwith to have Hangouts open at work? Our net usage is monitored and I would love to leave this open in the background while I am at work, but don’t want to get dinged for having my continual pinging and bandwidth use.

    Anyone know of a chrome extension that tracks bandwidth?

  • Normal american idiot.. demanding to get stuff even when it’s free.. please mother Earth terminate him!!!

    • ‘Normal American idiot?’


      Stereotyping is soooooooo ignorant and immature.

      But you know that, don’t you? You should try out positivity in your life, its a lot happier than bigotry.

      • TylerChappell

        Except when you look at the American education system and their scores in math, science, physics, etc. Well….yeah.

    • Mordecaidrake

      Ya I’m clearly an idiot for wanting 1 app to support my messaging, how dare I!

  • helper101

    If you want it to install you must go to a browser and push it to your phone

    • Jacob Bird

      tried that didnt work for me. still see it at already installed… having the same issue with my acer iconia… works great under chrome though

      • Tim242

        Uninstall or disable talk.

        • Jacob Bird

          tried to disable… no go… not avail on my iconia period… haven’t rooted my phone yet so can uninstall talk.

      • reboot. Just click the “installed” button in the web store front and it will let you reinstall.

    • Tim242

      No you don’t. I installed on my phone from the app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.talk. choose play store to open link

  • XvierX

    No pop up option? You’re killing me

    • Who the hell wants pop ups?

      They’re annoying and obtrusive.

      And a fad I might add that needs to die in a puddle of AIDS fire.

      • XvierX

        I’ve been using fb chat heads for weeks now and I’ve grown to like it very much. If we can’t get something similar, I’d settle for a pop up window. Btw Gtalk had the option of enabling popups so I don’t see why the option wasn’t at least included for those that use them.

      • Jarred Sutherland

        A puddle of aids fire. That comment is as annoying as the popups you are raging about.

    • Shannon Curtis

      it pops up in chrome on mine..hmm

      • XvierX

        Sorry, I should have specified that I was referring to the mobile version.

      • XvierX

        Sorry, I was referring to the mobile version. Gtalk used to offer this as an option.

  • Jacob Bird

    Confused as to why it won’t install on my RAZR M. Says app is already installed and just opens into Talk… am I missing something

    • Tim242

      Uninstall or disable talk

      • Jacob Bird

        no go

    • reboot. click “installed” in web store to reinstall. it will work.

  • radiohead14

    i reverted back to Talk.. i know it’s silly, but not having an ‘invisible’ status is no good for me. i like having it on at work for less distractions.. only let a certain few know i’m actually online.

    • you can set your status as invisible via chrome extension…..

      • radiohead14

        thanks, but i mostly use gchat via gmail, and it won’t let me be invisible when i had hangouts installed on my phone.

  • Chris King

    Guess I don’t see the difference between this and g+

    • This will move to replace all of the other google chatting services into one formal and more awesome experience including SMS/MMS at some point.

  • Could care less about SMS/MMS integration as I don’t use those anyways – but the part that sucks is that the picture messages only work on mobile devices – not on the desktop/chrome version which is a big let down.

    • Alex S

      I don’t think this is the full version just yet, crossing my fingers

    • Tim242


  • lye

    Nothing changed on my GS3…

  • Phil

    not syncing my messages between chrome and android FAIL!

    • Mine is – within seconds.

    • Mine also isn’t. Not sure why, can’t figure it out.

      Edit: Just closed down the chrome extension and restarted it, and there were all of my missing conversations. Hopefully that gets fixed soon!

  • Miles Prower [690 Duke]

    I like the integrated emoji “keyboard’, but I’m bummed that my favorite character — “pile of poo”

  • I’m finding that you cannot see your side of the conversation sent form your phone if you then go to chrome. And also if you open the chat on chrome, it will not clear the notification from my phone (it’s supposed to do that, right?)

    • Jason Kahn

      I am noticing the same thing on my computer, may it’s not fully rolled out across the google services yet?

      • I assume so, but it does seem to work if you use Hangouts through Google+. So for now I just deleted it from Chrome.

  • Cary Zuber

    My thoughts are Google released this to get as many people to download the new hangouts app as possible, once they feel they have reached as many people as possible they will role out the SMS feature. When you send an invite to an IOS user it prompts them to download the Google+ app, they are probably trying to push that too.

    • Cary Zuber

      If they don’t integrate SMS, this app is about as cool as GTALK.

      • Still has better features than gtalk overall even without SMS… but that is coming.

  • Ricot lominy

    I wanna test sms!! Txt me 203-243-3291

    • Josh Haug

      This will end badly.

    • That’s… probably a bad idea. You may want to delete this. Posting your number online is… yeah.

      Also, SMS doesn’t exist yet.

    • Steve Benson

      You might be the dumbest person on this site.

      • epyon0

        ^ +1

        • Josh Houff


    • Artune

      The only thing you’ll be testing out is penis enlargement ads via sms

  • prestone1

    uninstalled club

  • Royal Assassin

    I’m not sure I understand guys…..did Google Talk have SMS capabilities and they took it away or something? Why wouldn’t Google want to push their service? Don’t you use SMS with I dunno, your SMS app? lol..

  • jaw_shoe_uh

    No Nexus 7…gasp!

  • Pointless without SMS/MMS integration and if people do not actually download it or use Google+ (looking at my group of friends: more than 90% of them are iPhone users).

  • Jason Kahn

    it’s incredibly buggy so far, the chrome version is unusable thus far. I also can’t get the Hangout popup on Chrome to display on my second monitor. No Nexus 7 Support either which is absolutely asinine.

  • Steve Benson

    Well it’s official. Hangouts is definitely cool and a beautiful app, but it’s a complete and utter disappointment without the SMS integration. Here’s hoping they push an update to integrate this very soon.

  • John


    that video tells you all about it. great video from theverge as always.

    NOTE: it does NOT support SMS.

  • But this doesn’t subsume Google+ Messenger? … WHY?

    • Mordecaidrake

      Google Plus update will likely remove the app.

      • Steve Benson

        Yeah, most likely.

  • Kerry Fath

    got it installed on my gnex but it wont sign in to google….ideas??

    • Kerry Fath

      getting error message…. couldn’t sign in b/c couldn’t reach google…try again…i have rebooted…no bueno..

      • Kerry Fath

        uninstalled hangouts and talk magically appeared, its working fine.

      • Chad Dickinson

        I have this also. Have you found a fix?

    • reboot, reinstall via web store. Its a busy day…new service lots of people DL’ing.

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    I DO NOT THINK THEY WILL ADD SMS. THEY WANT PEOPLE TO USE THEIR SERVICE. the carriers probably have issues, u know how verizon is.

    • The permissions say it can read/write SMS. I think its coming.

    • Tim242

      They already do free SMS through Google Voice.

  • Tim242

    I had to uninstall Talk before it would download. Downloaded from the Play Store app.

    • saint_stephen

      How did you manage to do this? It says “installed” on my Google Play Store interface but when I click “open” it still takes me to Talk. In my app settings I cannot uninstall talk and it does not show up in my Google Play Store interface either.

      • saint_stephen

        I am using a Nexus 4 on stock 4.2.2, by the way.

        • I just rebooted my Nexus 4 (4.2.2, T-Mobile) and installed it from the Web Store after, it worked like a charm!

          • saint_stephen

            I’m also on a Nexus 4.2.2, still unable to do this. I tried rebooting and then clicking install once more from the web store–nothing.

          • Are you rooted by chance? I could send you the APK and you can install it manually.

          • saint_stephen

            Not rooted, but I’ve certainly sideloaded downloaded APKs (Play Store Update most recently, etc.) and installed via that method. Are you referring to sending me the APK for the update or the entire new app once it’s been updated?

          • I have the updated “Hangouts” APK. Here’s a link:


      • Tommy Thompson

        Install it from the web store.

        • saint_stephen

          I did. It says “installed” but nothing has taken effect on my phone.

      • Havoc70

        I had to go back into the play store once i installed it and click enable or it did not show up

      • Tim242

        I uninstalled through Titanium.(rooted). You may try disabling it in settings

        • saint_stephen

          Unfortunately, that’s a no go as well… Guess I’ll have to wait for a link to download the apk directly.

  • tharealoc

    im having issues confirming my number…anyone else in the same boat?

    • I confirmed ok

      • tharealoc

        weird…wonder if its because i disabled the stock text messaging app..

    • Tim242

      You can skip it.

    • DanSan

      same here, wont confirm

      edit. keep trying, it will go through

    • tharealoc

      finally got it to verify, did some tweaking in handcent. all is good now thanks for the replies

  • Fazor

    This app replaces Google Talk but it doesn’t show if people are online/offline or am I missing something? I still want the settings of chatting with people who are only online or this may as well be a text message/e-mail app.

    • ooooOo000o

      everyone is always online

      • Fazor

        I have friends who only use Talk from their work computers or cell phones via the service. Using Hangouts, it won’t show if they are actually at their computers at that moment.

      • Josh

        Offline users are grayed while online are not

        • tharealoc

          I see now, I think a better implementation would be if they desaturated people who are offline, and lightly gray people who are away/busy…
          thanks for the heads up on this though!

    • tharealoc

      agreed…it needs to have an online list…how could they leave this out on an im client..

    • Daniel

      would be WAY nicer if you could arrange by status and only view people who are online, the way Talk always did under the active conversations

    • Shannon Curtis

      when on the chrome version it will tell you they are offline..


    Yo kovdev, waiting for an update to Tersus for the Hangouts icon!

  • Jeremy Martin

    For all those complaining about lack of SMS…It was already stated on Droid Life a while back that when Hangouts did arrive that Google Voice (SMS Support) will not be included at first. The plan from Google was to add it later.

  • ricardo rodriguez

    Won’t sync across the chrome app and the android app. I still have to clear notifications on android when it’s been cleared on chrome.

  • CaptainHowdy13

    I was hoping for an iMessage like cross platform service so I can convince my iPhone friends to use it

    • Tommy Thompson

      It is cross platform..

    • Steve Benson

      As were all of us…terrible disappointment indeed.

  • jnt

    I take it there’s no desktop app besides the one for Chrome – which makes it a bit pointless if I want to pull my wife into this vs. texting… She doesn’t use Chrome at all.

  • umataro42

    That’s weird, it was compatible with mine but not my Nexus 7. Though I wonder what would happen if I side loaded the apk after pulling it from my GNex…

  • Manny

    Looks like they need to update Google + to remove the messenger feature and integrate it to the new Hangouts app. On my Nexus 4, it still shows up and still takes you to Google +

  • arod111

    OK so I’m kind of annoyed it doesn’t have an option to only show people online.

    • tobiasmann

      I think they will change this because otherwise a lot of people are going to be messaging me and not getting anywhere.

  • Bionicman

    does anyone know how to get it working for SMS? I confirmed the phone number but when i received a SMS text it didn’t show up in Hangouts..

    • Tim242

      It doesn’t have SMS.

    • I think SMS is coming. Its in the permissions and the phone number ish… so maybe not a day one feature or simply an issue with launch.

  • vega25

    So help me understand this: should I keep g-mail chat within G-mail on after I have installed the Chrome extension? What about Google Voice integration?

  • jnt

    MightyText is what Hangouts should’ve been – wouldn’t surprise me to see MightyText integrate with Hangouts in some way in the future honestly.

  • man, this NEEDS SMS support. its the only way it will go mainstream. my wife knows i use g-talk, and knows i am on limited messaging (holding tight to that unlimited data plan…lol) but still NEVER uses talk because its just not easy for her.

    google dropped the ball, but hopefully i can finally convince my friends to ditch Groupme (nice app) and pick this up.

  • Kevin Bojarski

    All the app is is a vastly improved Google Talk. No killer app, but a welcome upgrade

  • JetBlue

    Permissions state that Hangouts uses these permissions:


    So SMS will most likely be added in a soon future update or be activated soon

    • PhoenixPath

      It sends SMS invites I believe…

      • MikeCiggy

        This doesn’t require the receiving or reading messages it would only require the send sms permission.

        • Ed Cerqueira

          They need to receive and read messages to confirm your number

      • PeteinPA

        Sent a photo, recip got a message to request access to an album, so it appears the photos goto a G+ album that you can then give access to others to view, etc.

        If you scroll down to a non G+ person, it will send them an invite…

    • MikeCiggy

      By the way it’s functioning, I agree it looks as if SMS is a coming feature.

    • tobiasmann

      All these permissions are necessary to cross reference numbers and send invites

    • Addison Todd

      Although I’m VERY hopeful for that, I highly doubt it will be the case. I think Google considers SMS to be an outdated technology, and will try and force people to use their messaging services.

      • Well, it isn’t that they CONSIDER it outdated, it kind of… IS outdated.

        That being said, I want Voice integration. Now.

        • Addison Todd

          It’s totally not outdated. There are a number of businesses, etc that simply don’t have gmail accounts or Google profiles. SMS is still the quickest communication to someone directly in text format.

          • Instant messaging has been around for a couple of decades now… SMS was outdated when it was released.

            SMS is nothing but an empty packet of information that wireless carriers started capitalizing on. Ever wondered why there’s a 160 character limit? There were 160 bits of empty space on the packet sent back and forth between the phone and the tower every time it checked in back in the day. The carriers realized they could fill it with text and charge a premium for it while costing them precisely $0. That’s why MMS used to cost more as well – that actually made them send a separate packet, after all.

  • Alex S

    Does anyone actually have the interface on chrome? for me its just google talk with a new color :/

    • mine actually installed as a background app on my WinXP work machine. i have a “caht” logo down by the clock and it pops up with a hangouts dialogue box thing….but it keeps saying it is unable to connect to google. i haven’t tried Talk in a while, but i dont remember it being like this at all.

  • r0lct

    Google Voice messages are showing up too in Hangouts!!

    Edit: Hmmm, maybe not so, that was weird.

    • Yeah, just tried that. Didn’t work for me

  • Sakina Solomon

    *Cries tears of joy*

  • ricardo rodriguez

    Not available for tablets?

  • jak_341

    What is the difference between this and Messenger?

    • Steve Benson

      Messenger does SMS, this doesn’t.

      • PeteinPA

        Wrong! I’ve already sent several …

        • Steve Benson

          You’re lying. All it does is offer to send a text to invite them to try Hangouts.

        • PhoenixPath

          …over Google Talk.

        • Tim242

          SMS is text, not pics

          • PeteinPA

            I stand corrected then, will have to test.

  • EvanTheGamer

    For most of us? How about EVERYONE who frequents droid-life.com? iOS users don’t have any business visiting an ANDROID blog, thank you very much.

    Also, neat!


    • JetBlue

      Well that’s kind of rude because Ron has an iPhone and iPad and he’s a writer for Droid-life.com does that mean he has no business visiting an Android blog he writes for?

      • EvanTheGamer

        He’s the exception, because he works for droid-life.com. haha.

        And yes, my comment was a bit of an overreaction. But I still think that iOS talk has no business on an Android blog, however.

  • saint_stephen

    Having difficulty installing this on my Nexus 4. Installed from the Google Play store, did not replace talk on my phone. When I check it out on the google play store on my phone, it says it is installed but when I click “open” it takes me to oldschool Talk… Anyone having similar issues?

    • Tom Sturdy

      Yes. Same issue on my GS3.

    • Tim242

      Uninstall Talk first.

      • saint_stephen

        It will not let me uninstall Talk from my app settings, nor does it show up on my Web or Android Play Store interfaces to uninstall. I do, however, see Hangouts as “installed.” Opening it merely takes me to the older version of Talk.

        • The Jackal

          Same issue on my HTC One

        • Same issue here on my Gnex. Play Store says Hangouts is installed, but clicking “Open” just opens the old Talk app. Talk is still in my app drawer and Hangouts is nowhere to be found.

          • Liquid

            I had to uninstall (and backup) in TiBu, then reboot and re-install hangouts from the play store.

            Which won’t help anyone that isn’t rooted.

        • Caleb Shahamat

          Uninstall using Titanium if you’re root. I had the same problem. This solved it for me.

          • saint_stephen

            Not rooted, unfortunately. :-/

        • DC_Guy

          I had to log in on my computer and install it through the web browser Play store. It downloaded to my phone about 30 seconds later and replaced the Google Talk app/icon.

          • saint_stephen

            That is what I did as well. It never installed on my phone, but on my web interface it says “installed.” I’ve multiple times tried this method and nothing ends up happening, unfortunately. :-/

            Hopefully someone will post the apk.

          • lye

            This did it for me. Thank you I was getting aggrivated. I think it’s weird because it IS talk, but is not at the same time. It still is alphabetically in T for me on my phone too. They could have made this smoother.

        • Same here on my Gnex

        • Tim242

          I am rooted. I used Titanium to uninstall it. If you aren’t rooted, you have to do it from the desktop play store. Just hit the installed button.

    • try a reboot first.
      if that doesn’t work, to go the “talk” app in settings>apps>all
      clear data/cache, force stop and see if that helps.
      mine installed just fine for me right over top “talk”

      • Tried all that, doesn’t work.

        • did you try pushing it from the web play store. it said it was “installed” on my devices already, but i installed it again to my G-nex and all was well. give it a go, others have reported the same.

    • Same here…in for an answer also.

    • Got it! Go to the web google play. Install to your device from there. It will override your current talk.


      • e_droid

        thanks! this worked for me as well.

    • saint_stephen

      Was able to get it to work by downloading the installer apk (https://www.dropbox.com/s/n2pxktrnwmruu1e/Hangouts.apk)

    • monorailmedic

      So running CM10.1 it says it’s installed buy just opens talk. I deleted Talk w/ Titanium and it worked great but Google Framework still sent Talk alerts which I had to swipe away each time. In Play web it just says it’s installed. Posted in the CM10.1 D2VZW thread as I am sure I’m not alone. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2053799&page=171

  • Kerry Fath

    No N7 love???

  • jnt

    The phone number confirmation has absolutely nothing to do with SMS integration, FYI. This is a cool app, but it seems to be a Gtalk and G+ integrator, more than anything else, if I’m understanding it right…

    • dylan84

      Based on the permissions the app requires, I’d say that SMS/MMS integration is coming.

  • Raven

    Got Hangouts for my phone (Droid 4), but does not show up as available on my Nexus 7 yet. Strange not to support that yet.

    • samari711

      The tablet version must not be ready yet, my Transformer Prime isn’t compatible either

      • Hothfox

        It’s not compatible with my Xoom yet either.

  • Niall Fox

    how’d you do get it to support SMS? i have no update available and all it tells me to do when i click on a contact in the app is “____ is not on Hangouts. Would you like to tell ____ via SMS?”

  • Silver Veloz

    Installed and up on my trusty old Droid Bionic (w/ JB). Good luck everyone.

  • Thomas

    Is this the new Babel thing ?

  • PeteinPA

    Interesting though, the notification bar icon is still that of talk … spoke too soon, now it changed …

  • Brandon Golway

    Just installed it on my Gnex running Carbon.

  • it does not

  • So its really just a nice google talk update, with no sms, which people still won’t switch over too anyway. 🙁

  • John

    I hate the fact that you can ONLY chat with people who are using Google+.

    • PeteinPA

      Not true, keep scrolling down the list when starting a new hangout.

  • Daniel

    What protocol is this using? Will I still be able to use Pidgin to connect to gTak over XMPP and chat that way, just without video and such? Also, will there be an updated, stand-alone Windows app like Google Talk, which my mom still uses on her computers?

  • jnt

    some explanation would be nice – not seeing it anywhere… it confirms your phone # but that’s it

    • Better yet, it allows me to confirm my Google Voice number.

  • Worked fine on my VZW Galaxy Nexus. Installed it from my desktop using the web market.

  • bigfire

    Cannot install on Nexus 7 tablet. Also not for Xoom.

    • PhoenixPath

      Same with the Nexus 10…

      WTF, Google??


    • Guest

      I used APK extract from my GNex and installed it on my Nexus 7. Works fine.

      • Griffin Williamson

        Share please? haha

    • TheOgler

      Same with Chrome. Impressive, Googs.

    • What the eff!! Dang, its not working on my up to date jelly bean xperia tablet either! This is crappy.

    • Griffin Williamson

      Yeah, this is odd. Isn’t this the nexus 7 pictured here?

      And if you scroll down…

      A+ to whoever designed these ads… Good job.

  • TJWaterskier

    Would not show up on VZW DNA CM 10.1 .. Thanks for the play link, web installed and running smooth!

    P.S. Not compatible with Stock/Rooted Transformer Prime

  • Artune

    Yes currently the Nexus 7 and 10 are incompatible devices. I’m assuming it hasn’t been optimized for tablets yet but phone like the VZW Gnex definitely work, I’m running it on mine now and other popular phones should work as well.

    • Install from your desktop if you haven’t already tried that….

  • Does everyone with can’t install issues have newest Play Store yet? Just a thought since that has google framework now and this Hangouts replaces Talk.

  • kevin

    It does not support sms. It just ask you if you want to invite a contact to use hangouts

  • There’s a permission to send SMS. Interesting….

    • Tim242

      It sends an invite

  • how are you using it? it confirms my number but just sends an invite out.

    • NexusPhan69

      Everyone phone number I tried apparently had a gmail linked to it and it just sent it to talk. Didn’t realize it until one of them asked why the hell I was “talking to them through gmail”

      • EraserXIV

        I applaud them for the effort in trying to transition and integrate everything, but at one point you just need to cut it off and tell people it’s an entirely new service and the old services are going to be discontinued. All of this converting messages between Talk, Hangouts, Messenger, etc makes it unnecessarily confusing.

        Who’s online, who isn’t? People who don’t have Hangouts installed or signed up for still show up on the list.. what happens when I send a message to them? Can I be sure, they get the message? Does it get converted to a Talk message, or a Messenger message, or a GMail message and then sent to them? Can I expect them to reply? I would them rather not show up at all if they haven’t signed up for Hangouts.

      • michael arazan

        doesn’t work if your friends aren’t logged in

  • Incompatible with my Nexus 7.

  • tobiasmann

    Not compatible with Nexus 10?

  • I just installed it on my VZW GNex. However, it won’t install on my completely stock Nexus 7.

    • p_droid

      Strange. Might be my ROM’s DPI settings. Still showing incompatible from the web Play Store.

  • wont install on Nexus 10

    • Likewise Nexus 7

    • tobiasmann

      Same problem

    • Install from your desktop if you haven’t already tried that…

    • umataro42

      When you first start it, it asks to confirm your phone number so it can send a one-time SMS. So that must be why its not tablet compatible since they won’t have a number assigned or traditional carrier-SMS.

      • Tim242

        That step can be skipped.

        • umataro42

          In that case, I might try pulling the APK from my GNex and see what happens when I side load it onto my Nexus 7.

  • JetBlue

    How? All I get is if I want to send an invite to my friends to tell them about Hangouts through SMS

    • DoctorJB

      God yes, nothing will make a person more popular than inviting people to install new apps. You wouldn’t believe how many people love getting my Farmville invites.

  • Keith0606

    not compatible with the N7, seems odd to me.

    • Gfunk81

      Not compatible with my Nexus 10 either! Why do they always release apps half baked?

  • Not compatible with Nexus 7?

  • Artune

    Really? I just installed it on mine, I did it from the web and sent to phone. Try it!

    • NexusPhan69

      Probably overloaded servers.

    • p_droid

      What the hell!?

    • DanWazz

      Same here.

  • HighBar

    Where did you see that?

    • tobiasmann

      I saw the number thing but I used Google Voice so I added Google Voice number and it doesn’t seem to work. Just tells me that the person I want to text doesn’t have Google Hangouts

      • tobiasmann

        Ok so best I can tell it does not support SMS. I only uses your mobile number to help people find you on Google Hangouts.

  • Mordecaidrake

    Oh God, awesome!

    • Steve Benson

      Whoa whoa whoa, there’s no SMS support.

  • Shane Redman

    GASP! what’s this about an SMS?

    • Joe Staff

      yeah asks for permissions and asks to confirm phone number. I’m excited!

  • wickets

    thanks for the link…..when i went to play store, searching hangouts, or google hangouts returned zero result….using note 2