Comments on: Verizon is OK With Isis Mobile Wallet Accessing the Secure Element on Your Phone, Just Not Google Wallet

By: Jason

Jason — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 21:03:00 +0000

Verizon did not like how the app accessed the OS. So they did not want to put int on thier phones. So they created thier own with the NFC-SIM card which if you lose your phone they can freeze the wallet so no one can access your money unlike Google wallet.

By: Tyler Cameron

Tyler Cameron — Wed, 09 Jan 2013 01:20:00 +0000

I have never seen a Galaxy Nexus for $800 either. They’re $250-300 max. Any more than that and you’re doing it wrong.

By: JT

JT — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 04:16:00 +0000

I think Google should block Isis from the Play Store and tell Verizon we can play that game too…Google owns the store and software that Verizon’s phones run they can do the same thing right back to Verizo

By: Christopher Daniel

Christopher Daniel — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 22:39:00 +0000

That’s exactly where you’re wrong, Tony. Google does not need to turn into all the other apps for payment. Google created Wallet with NFC in mind. They have the support of major credit card companies as MasterCard, and Visa. Hell, half of the “other” mobile payments don’t really work in retailers, because the only thing their apps do, is create a barcode on your screen that the registers scan in. The problem with this is that 3/4 of the device screens will not allow a barcode laser to read. The reflection simply bounces back and creates an unreadable situation, which in turn, does not allow payment from your mobile devices.

Google Wallet, however, utilizes the newest form of technology in which you simply tap and pay. This technology has been around for years in the form of PayPass and Visa’s PayWave technology, in which a chip, in Credit Cards would allow you the ability to simply wave your card in front of the machine. There is a wider spread of machines that already allow for this technology due to the fact that it has been around for much longer than today’s devices. Google simply perfected it on an NFC Device level.

Also, the fact still remains that even if Google ups the ante and offers a different style wallet, in which a barcode, unable to be read by most laser scanners today, were to be created, They would let the carriers win while monopolizing their own form of Mobile Payment. I received an email (of which I posted the screenshot of in these very comments) that stated that Isis would need to set up the Secure Element ON my device… Whether this SE is the same as the one requiring access by Google, still remains to be seen, but all documentation would appear as such. It is simply not right for a carrier trying to monopolize on technology previously created yet one that is blocked for benefit of the carrier. That is what has all of us up in arms….

A complaint (Probably many of them, by this point) has already been filed with the FCC, and the FTC. This action by individual carriers limiting End User Experience has to come to an end, and hopefully, the information I have passed onto Kellex, who then passed onto all of us, along with 6 other Android News sites, will assist in giving the end user the most enjoyable experience with minimal limitations.

By: Tony Graziano

Tony Graziano — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:13:00 +0000

There are factors here in making Verizon and any other carrier remove their blocks for Google Wallet. Perhaps Verizon was right in requiring the data if stored on the phone is secure. Google updated Wallet to store the card data on their servers and not on the phone anymore. The only remaining question is if the google wallet pin is stored on the phone or on google’s servers. If all of this is stored on the server for google wallet, verizon has to make up another reason to deny the application. While there is a lot of discussion, Google is not about to file a lawsuit against Verizon and Verizon is not about to stop carrying android devices.

It would be up to the consumers to file a petition with the FCC to ask them to investigate it. The question is since this involves payment and commerce (and there are other ways to pay), does it even fall under the FCC’s jurisdiction? My guess is that it doesn’t (yet) and would have to be looked at by the FDIC who is clueless on this type of thing. We can’t look at Europe where NFC is in greater use because their banking and telecom rules are very different altogether.

It becomes clear the lawmakers in the US and the FCC need to formulate oversight to more align itself with where the technology is heading. Right now the FCC can rule as to whether Verizon is acting “anti” competitively, and I would venture to say they would not rule that way. Why? Stabucks, square and other payment forms are not blocked. So how does Google Wallet get into Verizon phones (legitimately)?

Google needs to up the ante and offer Wallet in a way that gets around Verizon’s crybaby stance. It appears they are doing just that and have announced even more changes to make the application more plentiful.

By: Rick

Rick — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:07:00 +0000

Google should buy Sprint, or T-Mobile, roll out 4G quickly, and tell Verizon to….. well I can’t politely say what they should tell Verizon to do here in a public forum.
I bought a Samsung Galaxy “Nexus” (I use the term “Nexus” lightly) and it came preloaded with Verizon bloatware… and it was delayed for over a month, because of Verizon’s insistence that Google remove Google Wallet from their “Nexus” device.
I’d love to see a Google Wireless provider, almost as much as I’d like to see Verizon pay for being so “Anti-competitive” and heavy handed.
If another provider ever gets comparable coverage, all the ill-will Verizon has been building up with its customers through tactics like this, is going come back and bite them hard.

By: Christopher Daniel

Christopher Daniel — Fri, 21 Dec 2012 01:34:00 +0000

https://www.change.org/petitions/verizon-wireless-stop-the-anti-trust-monopolization-of-isis-and-open-google-wallet

By: MKader17

MKader17 — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:09:00 +0000

This is a great reason for Google to drop a HUGE lawsuit on Verizon for practicing a monopoly and refusing other services to promote something else they are involved with. You don’t have to worry about Verizon dropping Android as Verizon needs them just as much now.

By: Sqube

Sqube — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:44:00 +0000

Or those talks with Dish Network could really mean something.

By: Danrarbc

Danrarbc — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:32:00 +0000

11 out of the 30 they tested. 37% of the tested markets.

By: crookedview

crookedview — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:51:00 +0000

I’d stick with the former.

By: Captain_Doug

Captain_Doug — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:27:00 +0000

I wouldn’t call that butthurt. Maybe annoyed.

By: michael arazan

michael arazan — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:48:00 +0000

Google Just sold off a part of Motorola for $3 billion dollars, I’m sure they will reinvest that money elsewhere, either Fiber or to partner with Dish for a wireless carrier

By: crookedview

crookedview — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 04:36:00 +0000

Haha, okay.. You wanted to know how the comment I made was relevant, I showed you, then you get all butthurt about it.

By: Kevin Kaykay Kim

Kevin Kaykay Kim — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 04:21:00 +0000

I think FTC actually might needs to be involved also, due to unfair trade practice they are committing.

Tl;dr they’re blocking out Google in attempt to monopolize the NFC payment system in US. Why wouldn’t this be unfair trade practice?