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Andy Rubin Talks About the Lack of LTE in the LG Nexus 4

Google’s new Nexus 4 is official as of this morning. While the device itself has almost every top-of-the-line spec in the business, there is one that was left out that has a few scratching their heads. Why doesn’t the Nexus 4 have LTE support? According to Andy Rubin, there are a number of reasons, most of which they learned after releasing the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon with LTE. 

“We certainly have a desire to offer devices on every carrier on the planet,” Rubin said. “The tactical issue is GSM vs. LTE. A lot of the networks that have deployed LTE haven’t scaled completely yet — they’re hybrid networks. They’ll do their old thing and they’ll do LTE, which means the devices need both radios built into them.”

“For now we’re gonna sit back and watch those networks evolve. Two radios in a device right now certainly raises the cost, and diminishes battery life.” This point seems to frustrate him. “When we did the Galaxy Nexus with LTE we had to do just that, and it just wasn’t a great user experience. It’s possible to do it right, but that’s not where we’ll put our resources initially. Tactically, we want to make sure the devices are available for every network on the planet.”

So Rubin admits that the Galaxy Nexus with LTE was a horrible experience for most users because of battery life. I think most of us would tend to agree with him on that. Unfortunately, he also mentioned that it probably would have been possible to still put LTE in the Nexus 4 and “do it right,” however, they have decided to put their resources elsewhere for now. At this time, they are letting these new “hybrid” LTE networks mature before diving in fully.

I don’t want to shatter dreams, but that sounds like we may not see a new LTE-equipped Nexus until the next one arrives next winter. Since many of you are Verizon and AT&T customers, this means your upgrade will have to wait or you’ll have to decide on a non-Nexus phone. Unless those of you on AT&T are willing to drop back to HSPA+ from LTE.

Thoughts?

Via:  The Verge

  • CaptainHowdy13

    I rarely use LTE anyhow. I sit on WIFI if I need speed. Plus I use WIFI on my Gnex because it has such terrible signals

  • Jeff Messer

    I’m sure they’re frustrated that Verizon is essentially blocking them from updating the GNex the way they’ve wanted…but the phone is still awesome.

  • JDizzle

    FAIL

  • http://www.facebook.com/studman1 Troy Studnicka

    Epic failure Google. No 4G is the downfall of this phone with the whole United States being covered in 4G by the end of next year. That’s right, where there is 3G it will be 4G then. Looks like I’ll be buying the HTC DLX bring it on!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/oldblueeyes182 Joshua Bailey

      If it is being covered in 4G by the end of next year, do you not think Google is planning on releasing a new Nexus with 4G next year that can utilize the network efficiently and not have to include “extra” radios?

      This is not a “fail.” This is a fail on the parts of the networks that have been pushing out “4G” and not fine-tuning the networks to utilize the powerful bandwidth it can handle.

      I’m good with my Galaxy Nexus on Verizon right now, and will be until a new 4G Nexus comes out. If Moto and Google are working on a Nexus, it was always going to be for next year. It will blow our minds too. Think of the power next year’s Nexus lineup will have. 32GB or 64GB out of the box, 4G, 3000 mAh+ battery, 1080p screen…it will be epic.

      • Liderc

        So now we’re like Apple fanbois and saying “oh we’ll get it next year!”

        Do you see how ridiculous that sounds?

        • http://www.facebook.com/oldblueeyes182 Joshua Bailey

          Not really seeing as though that we have already had it (See 4G Galaxy Nexus). It is a feature that just is not necessary yet.

          I love my 4G on my Galaxy Nexus. It is almost faster than my home connection, but if I had to choose between excellent battery life and a lower cost or crappy battery life and higher cost, guess which one I’m choosing.

          This is not the standard Apple fan response saying that “we’ll get it next year” or “I wonder what it’s like to have 4G?”

          I want 4G, and yes I am disappointed that it is not in the Nexus 4. It is a step backwards, yes. The thing is that it should have never been included in the Galaxy Nexus to begin with. It wasn’t ready. Rubin will get this right the second time around, and to be honest with you, the Nexus 4 is almost like an entry level device at this point. Low internal storage, good specs and no 4G. I will not be getting one, but I’m sure many people will.

          This is why we all love Android. Where one manufacturer fails, others succeed and we are all happy. I am honestly going after a 4G Note 2. That device is beast. I am waiting for the DLX to come out first, which may (or may not) reduce the price of the Note 2 on Verizon.

  • Damian

    Well I know what my next phone isn’t going to be.
    Droid DNA here I come!

  • EC8CH

    @Kellex…

    Screw LTE, when are you going to address the bigger issue of them moving the headphone jack back to the top. We know it’s buggin’ you :-P

  • manny

    They made fun of the iphone 4s for not having lte now they do the same thing. Follow the leader !!!

  • andrew galvin

    I am so disappointed in google right now.

  • bogy25

    I would expect this from apple not us….3G is like dial up was like on the PC – 4G LTE is so fast you can’t deny this. I am so shocked at this news. When I buy a NEW device I want the latest and greatest technology.

    • EC8CH

      This has everything to do with the power struggle between the carriers and the device manufactures over who has control of the software on the devices.

  • hfoster52

    Sounds like a cop out to me….

  • sylent101

    So why not go with Motorola then? and have them build a HD Max like device, just replace the display with an lg display..Battery life and 4g and a thin device..This didn’t make sense lol.

    • hfoster52

      Moto Nexus right there.

  • http://twitter.com/BossAsHell Boss As Hell

    I have no problem sticking with my 32GB Verizon Galaxy Nexus for another year. This news saddens me.

  • http://twitter.com/AllanMcGraw Allan McGraw

    I won’t EVER buy a phone without LTE. It seems like Google has taken a step backwards with this one. It wasn’t too long ago that everyone was making fun of Apple and the 4S for not having LTE because everyone agreed that LTE should be the new standard for mobile phones. Disappointing to say the least.

  • http://twitter.com/LoganLopez Logan Lopez

    I am ok with this. The LG version isn’t really that big of an upgrade and I am happy with my Galaxy Nexus. I will get all of the software updates and since the LG Nexus looks just like my phone, not really missing out on a lot. I don’t care who makes the next Nexus, just make it unique! The biggest problem i have with my phone is the battery. I ended up finally getting the extended battery for my phone and i couldn’t be happier (the 3800 version). Now my phone lasts a day no matter what i do. This is the way the phone should have been released. Evolve Verizon, evolve!!!

    What?
    Verizon is evolving!
    Congratulations! Your Verizon evolved into A Phone Carrier that gets good phones again!

  • Erik Cho

    Mixed feelings about this one, but I am leaning towards the idea that I have had a rather tough experience with my GNexus due to battery life.

    I think it ultimately comes down to the lesser of two evils. Are you more concentrated on being mobile for longer? Or would you rather have the higher data rates at the cost of having to find a charger every so often? Both has its ups and downs, but for someone like me longevity is more important. I need my phone to last for as long as possible, even if it means that, that attachment in an email is going to download a bit slower.

  • Bob G

    I would like to thank Verizon for ruining Nexus devices for everyone in the future.

    Asshats.

    • Nathan

      I second that. I am due for an upgrade and this ruins everything. This phone had the exact specs I have been waiting for (that is, minus the no LTE thing….). I don’t really know what to do now. Wait (and wait and wait) and see what happens I guess…
      Thanks so much, Verizon.

  • http://www.facebook.com/vanhouse David VanHouse

    DONT CARE T-MOBILE 30/month PREPAID PLAN FTW

  • markgbe

    I’m ok with it. My VZW gnex is fine right now. I have had zero issues with it, and i have no trouble with battery life.

    I’ll most likely switch to ATT or tmobile next year though when my contract is up.

  • http://twitter.com/j_mikel222 Mike M

    Once you go LTE, you never go back.

    • vitriolix

      I’ve got LTE and its overhyped, HSPDA+ is pretty competitive and offers me contract-less freedom.

  • Galaxy-S3

    Somewhere, Steve Jobs is laughing at you.

  • Marc Fletcher

    Wow…..I don’t know what to say…..I am a little shocked.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Chris.B.Barrett Chris Barrett

    I think this is largely why were able to see this phone at such a steal off contract. It’s very unfortunate as someone on contract with Big Red, but I think we need to remember that this phone isn’t designed just for the USA, where LTE networks are most prevalent. I’m not sure I’m really even ready to dump my gnex as it stands, anyways. It’s been such a stellar phone for me running AOKP and using Leankernel.

  • Cody Stamps

    “Tactically, we want to make sure the devices are available for every network on the planet.” Except for Verizon, the one with the biggest outreach. I am debating on switching. Anyone have any views to switch from Verizon to AT&T (the only two that have decent voice coverage at my house, work location has no issues.)

  • http://www.facebook.com/SushiHuntr Byron Harley

    LTE doesn’t kill my battery that bad… I get 20+ hours when I just use it moderately… of course if you play games on it all day it will die fast, but thats why I bought my nexus 7… if he just came out and said they left out lte to keep the cost off contract under 400 I would’ve been fine with that

  • Rob

    Wow. That’s a horrible business move… LTE is a necessity for ( I would think) anyone…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1046370362 Kyle Killion

    I feel bad for LG, didn’t have an opportunity to at least try putting LTE on. There’s plenty of new phones since the Galaxy Nexus that have better battery life with the “hybrid” networks. LG should of had the chance to show that.

    • Travis Shepherd

      I don’t think it was LG, I think it was Google’s call here. They don’t care about VZW because of the way they handle their update protocols. So it’s easier to slap a simple single GSM radio in the thing & be done with it. Poor move though

      • Wes

        They better. Eliminating the two CDMA networks effectively cuts their potential US customers by 55%.

        • Travis Shepherd

          Agreed. but I will still have to wait for next december to upgrade (stupid contract) so it’s not a big deal right now. I just want an unlockable device when the time comes, I don’t know what I would do without my AOKP or CM.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rad-Stevens/783228723 Rad Stevens

    This phone is a fail in my book, with limited storage, and no LTE, how are you supposed to stream Google music on 3g, on high quality? I’ll stick with my rooted 32gb SGS3 running AOKP.

  • jeff

    Sounds like they don’t want to deal with Verizon and AT&T. Can’t blame them for that.

    • Travis Shepherd

      AT&T is a GSM carrier, I think you mean Sprint.

    • Wes

      That’s not a good idea, considering 70% of US smartphone customers use either AT&T or Verizon.

    • Nathan

      I understand why they don’t want to deal with Verizon.. They shot themselves in the foot with the Galaxy Nexus. They deserve to be punished. Unfortunately me, the innocent customer, got hit with the ricochet as well. :(

  • Jeff Tycz

    remember when we were making fun of the iPhone not having LTE….yup the nexus 4 just became that

    • eagletrippin

      Exactly. Can’t hold a double-standard just because this is an Android device.

      Lack of LTE was unacceptable then; it’s unacceptable now …

      • New_Guy

        Agreed…Note 2, here I come.

        • Droidzilla

          I’ll get a Note II on T-Mobile with HSPA+. People need to stop pretending that LTE is superior to HSPA+ all the time; it really depends on the market area and device radios.

    • Liderc

      Yep, total fail here. Not having LTE is laughable.

    • Droidzilla

      iPhone was released as a flagship device on a 4G carrier with no 4G radio. This is being released on a 4G carrier with a 4G radio; it’s not coming to Verizon in 3G only livery.

      For those dissing HSPA+, I just tested out a Galaxy Note II on T-Mo HSPA+ in my area and was getting 20+Mbps.

  • Dr_Buttballs

    Not a big deal in my opinion. HSPA+ works well enough for me on AT&T.

  • http://profiles.google.com/lwvyruz luke woodruff

    Can I still get the phone and run it on Verizon with 3g?

    • Mack

      Unfortunately, no.

    • hfoster52

      No. VZ is CDMA/LTE not GSM or WCDMA.

  • Jonathan Bunch

    I’m totally OK with that, I’m not up for upgrade till next year anyway seeing as i was late in getting the gnex, however I certainly do hope that they offer lte with the next device, and possible multiple oems. Moto nexus with lte sounds nice….really any nexus with lte sounds better than one without it. they can solve the battery life issues simply by putting a bigger battery in it.

  • The Truth

    Wish we could have gotten a more truthful answer instead of something so political. Verizon is a huge network and reaches most people, if you hate the way they do business just say so!

    • where’s Verizon

      plus kellex is so right! We will not see a Verizon nexus 4!

  • TheWenger

    When did Verizon say they wanted to move everything off CDMA to LTE? That’s when we’ll see what Rubin’s talking about. There is no standard system used in the US, so I bet it’ll be many years (like a decade or more) until this ideal scenario works out.

    • Mack

      Verizon seems to be aiming for the end of 2013. VoLTE (voice over LTE) would me CDMA/3G is no longer necessary, in theory.

  • ralphwiggum1

    I’m happy to have a pentaband HSPA+ phone since I’m using prepaid anyway (Straight Talk or Simple Mobile). Best phone to go with those budget-friendly phone plans.

  • Mark F

    Whatever, If Apple could do it why not us??

    • Prox

      Qualcomm says the S4 Pro has LTE/CDMA built into the SoC. If the Nexus 4 has this SoC, why no LTE? Or is the question, why didn’t they write the software to enable to the radio?

      http://www.qualcomm.com.au/products/snapdragon

      • beng8686

        …but they still get the option on Verizon. Most would pay the extra $$

        • Prox

          After further reading it appears LTE is an optional module. Perhaps the Verizon LTE module is being released in 2013.

          The quad-core APQ8064 will be designed to meet the performance requirements of the next generation of computing and entertainment devices while minimizing power consumption. As with the Snapdragon dual-core, the APQ8064 will include four asynchronous CPU cores which can be independently controlled for maximum efficiency. The Adreno 320 quad-core GPU debuts in the APQ8064 processor where it enables console-quality gaming and renders rich user interfaces.

          The APQ8064 will also include a variety of features that make it a compelling processing solution for use in mobile entertainment and computing devices, including support for both PC and LP DDR memory, serial and PCIe interfaces, and multiple USB ports. The APQ8064 will also seamlessly integrate with Qualcomm 3G and LTE MDM™ modems and modules, giving OEMs a flexible and cost-efficient platform that can meet all of their design configuration needs and help reduce time to market.

      • hfoster52

        There are plenty of SoC with LTE just they cost a ton. This is how they keep the phone so cheap.

    • Tom Ball

      That’s my question too. Apple has a single chip for GSM/LTE and CDMA/LTE. Why couldn’t Google acquire something similar? Yes I realize that would probably increase costs but still… I’d be willing to pay for it…

      • Andrew

        Apple makes 3 IPhone 5 and the retail cost is well north of $500 and sells a ton of them with the carriers help

        Google is doing this by themselves (no extra money) and the Nexus phones is $299 and they never sell very well any ways

        these are huge HUGE differences

        • Derek Duncan

          This is the reason. Google wants to do it without carriers help for the most part. The Nexus line doesn’t sell well, so why not just make it cheaper?

          I remember buying the unlocked Euro GSM last Winter for about $650. $349 is much better :-)

      • beng8686

        I agree 100 percent.

      • Travis Shepherd

        Maybe all this will change with VoLTE

    • EC8CH

      VZW bends over for Apple, they won’t for Google.

      • Droidzilla

        They won’t for the Nexus line. It doesn’t have the pull that the iPhone does. If this were the GSIV it might be a different story, but Nexus =! Galaxy, sales wise. Even the Galaxy line doesn’t pull in customers quite like the iPhone, but that’s changing fast.

        • EC8CH

          I think Google is waiting for Verizon to finish building out their LTE network and once CDMA radios are no longer needed will force Verizon to honor the terms of their block C lease.

          Verizon is using CDMA to keep control of the software updates. That’s at least what I read between the lines of Rubin’s statements. Sure the cost and battery life excuses are true, but this is really a battle about who is in control of the software.

    • http://techonblogger.ward.pro/ Stynkfysh

      Apple can do it for $650 for a 16GB phone. Nexus has everything BUT LTE for $299 – less than half the cost. That’s why not us (I am on Verizon). I think the point is to cut the carriers out – and the only way to do that is by selling cheap phones.

    • LeDerp

      you already have the GS3?

  • http://twitter.com/JonnyRedeker Jon Redeker

    As sucky as it is, it makes sense. Here’s to hoping they announce an additional Nexus released in the next 6 months.

  • Jroc869, Cool story bro

    Im fine with hspa+ for now but I know some people arent.

  • http://www.naskaras.com/ Thanassi Karageorgiou

    That’s fine with me. I came to terms with my Verizon GNex’s battery life a long time ago. Now its always near a charger in every room/vehicle. The fact that the Nexus has no LTE and only and incremental upgrade (IMO) is a no brainer for me. Gnex for 1 more year.

  • BGRUGGER

    I dont think i could go back to 3g from LTE…waaay to fast! I honestly think that even if the nexus came to vzw as a 3g only phone, i would not get it due to lack of LTE. The speeds/tethering speeds/ and download capabilities out-weigh new nexus. Dont get me wrong, I love my Gnexus, but cannot go back to 3g…my 2cents

    • r0lct

      Well on Verizon it’s tough as their 3G is slow. On a HSPA+ carrier living under that coverage I would imagine it’s no big loss. Having said that, this won’t get me to upgrade from my GNex as they biggest improvements I want are in the software which I’ll be running soon enough.

    • John

      I feel the same. At first, I was like “Nah…I don’t care about faster internet speeds”, but once you finally have it (kinda like a larger screen), you don’t want to go back.

      • TheWenger

        That’s how I felt leaving Sprint for the G-Nex.

    • Prox

      HSPA+ is a lot faster than 3G speeds. Unless T-Mobile or ATT does not offer HSPA+ in your area.

    • Travis Shepherd

      honestly if I’m not on wifi i’m on 3g, the faster speeds really don’t matter to me, I’ve tried it.

      • Travis Shepherd

        LOL why am I getting downvoted? I mean I am personally doing an experiment so I can see if I can afford to go to the tiered data plan, that’s what I meant.

        • SA

          I agree, I keep my GNex on 3G, to save battery life. LTE only once in a blue moon. Other than downloading large files, there’s basically no difference in the user experience.

    • Droidzilla

      Going to HSPA+ from LTE is not going back to 3G; it’s usually the same speed as LTE, so it wouldn’t be any different. The key is whether or not T-Mo has the same HSPA+ coverage in your area as Verizon LTE. Some places do, some don’t.

      • BGRUGGER

        @Droidzilla:disqus you could be right, however, on vzw going from LTE to 3g is nasty slow. Also, i did look into Tmo but they do not cover my area well…im not sure how accurate their maps are, but the one on their site shows no 4g in my are. Either way, my family tethers off 4g and we definitely would feel the drag going back…

  • j__h

    Well at least for me (and I would guess most Verizon user with the GNex), The upgrade cycle will be coming next year. So for me, this is disappointing but not a direct affect.

  • FilletMinion

    I’m so dissapointed right now. I could never give up my Verizon service but I want all the Google goodness.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Vosko Jon Vosko

    So this means Verizon is stuck with the Galaxy Nexus until next year… Awesome! And yes the battery life is about half of friends of GS3’s …

  • James

    Lame! Lame! Lame!

  • Southrncomfortjm

    I’d go with HSPA+ to have my Nexus. I rarely use LTE anyway.

    • Prox

      If you used HSPA+ you wouldn’t notice a difference between the two.

      • Droidzilla

        This. I don’t get why people are all gaga over LTE. It’s just faster data; HSPA+ does the same exact thing in practise.

      • Southrncomfortjm

        That’s what I figure. I use 3G most of the time and feel that it is plenty fast enough. Plus, if its the difference between a small data cap (VZW) for a large price and unlimited data (T-Mobile or Straight Talk) at half the price, I’ll go with the latter.

  • delta504

    Glad the rumor is now official and thankful for DL for tipping me on the recent Galaxy Nexus sale Verizon had. Now I’m 100% sure I made the right move by jumping on the GNex off contract, I like LTE and simply switch it off if I dont need it.

  • http://wakoopa.com/yo2boy yo2boy

    What about the lack of 32GB internal storage on the Nexus 4?

  • blarblar

    So disappointing. LTE + Nexus is the future, man. I hope Black Man X is right about a Verizon Nexus device in January.

  • James

    F’ing LAME!

    • youngzayiles

      I’m with you. sorry Google but this phone will not sale. It may be a good phone but with no lte and sucky t mobile being the only major carrier to support it… smh fail all over

  • MikeSaver

    It doesn’t matter to me because i have the Gnex so i wont be upgrading until next winter anyway. I wouldn’t describe my experience as “horrible” though

    • John

      Agreed. It’s an OK upgrade but I’m still content with my Gnex + 3800mAh battery :)

      • MikeSaver

        Where did you get that big of a battery?

        Sent from my Google Nexus device

        • John

          http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007C8XRJY

          (it has NFC, too) I get ~3.5-4hr screen on time and close to that w/ Good 4G signal. I’m a power user with my phone, so I needed the extra juice. Ya it is ugly w/ the bulkiness, but honestly…you start to forget about it after a week. It’ll probably only last about a year, but for $19, that’s cool with me!

          As long as you follow directions on the first few charges, you’ll get max performance out of it. I love it. I no longer have to charge my phone 3-4time s a day. I no longer have to check to see if an app is pulling GPS all the time etc etc..

          • igotgame

            I use a 3800mah battery as well in my GNex. The QCELL sold on Amazon. I get amazing battery life on this thing. At my house on Wifi, I could easily go 3 days before needing to charge. On 4G, I can get about 4-5 hours of screen on time depending on what I am doing.

          • John

            Yep. It really is nice not to give a damn about battery life. I have no issue waiting another year for a different phone.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=674902817 Zach Davis

            I have the same battery, I’m still in the process of calibrating the battery, but this last weekend I went from Friday morning-Sunday evening on 1 charge :D Definitely happy with that

          • John

            Hell ya man. That’s a good charge!

        • Travis Shepherd

          probably seidio

      • beng8686

        Me too!

    • lostsync

      Yeah, all in all, I really think I can honestly say that I’ve been happier with this phone than any other piece of consumer electronics I’ve ever bought – zero regret since day one. It works great and I’ve got it tweaked to the point that battery life is a total non issue for me. I love this thing and honestly I’m kind of glad the n4 didn’t give me phone envy…I can go on loving my gnex for another year w/o the nagging thought that there’s something else I’d rather have in the back of my mind.

    • theentropic

      This is the exact same thought I have. I won’t be buying anything non-nexus in the future anyway.

    • Chris Malkiewicz

      Agreed! I love my phone. Not ready to let it go… Has plenty of life left to give!

      • duke69111

        I agree. I just wish I could get more than 1.5 hours of screen on time with LTE. Thats the only downside.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Schmucker/1498547350 Chris Schmucker

          Have you tried franco.kernal or leankernal? i get an average battery life of around 12-13 hrs of moderate to heavy use. I highly recommend it.

          • wh1te_mag1c

            What settings do you use use? Which governor? Did you undervolt or underclock?

          • http://twitter.com/d1g1K Dave Kochman

            Franco r295 + my magic little undervolt at boot script for the 192 slot.
            http://rootzwiki.com/topic/35649-horrible-battery-life-vzw-galaxy-nexus/#entry1002137. Experience amazing JB battery life at last.

          • MikeSaver

            I don’t know what you mean there when you say replace the script. Where do you replace the script?

          • Adam Brandt

            I always see claims like this and I have NO IDEA how you get anywhere even close to 12-13 hrs with moderate to heavy use. Unless that’s with the brightness all the way off, no cell signal, no wifi, bluetooth, or basically any radio, which just seams like a ridiculous way to get battery life

          • Russell Phillips

            Auto brightness and turning off LTE usually do the trick for me. I can get 12 hours with about 2.5-3 of those with the screen on without much issue. Even more if I underclock it.

        • rohicks

          Turn your brightness down when not needed, GPS off, and use WIFI when you’re around a network that allows you to (ie. at work). I average 8+ easilly, but I’m also using the extended battery+AOKP+franco kernel.

          A completely bone stock device probably would make it 6 hours.

          • Liderc

            Exactly, brightness kills the battery, drop it down and the battery is completely fine.

          • AdamSchuster

            Mine is stock JB, and on WIFI for 8 hours at work, I get 12+ hours out my GNex. When I finally plug it in at home, I usually still have 40+% left. I am in a pretty saturated LTE area, though.

          • SA

            Interesting comments. I’m on the awful-battery-life side of the fence, mine is truly terrible. And I keep it on 3G almost exclusively (plus no GPS, careful with apps, etc.) 4-5 hours is what I can get, less with heavy usage. Hence a removable battery is a must.

        • kixofmyg0t

          1.5 hours of screen on time?!! Holy crap man. I’m really glad I have a RAZR MAXX HD now.

          • Yakuzahi

            Can you SVDO on 3G?

    • Travis Shepherd

      like Tim said one the last DL show it’s the exact look as the gnex anyway. and as far as I’m concerned, I’ve had a great “user experience” so Andy and VZW can suck it for not wanting to get along. (Because you know that’s why there will be no lte phone)

    • EC8CH

      Agree completely… here’s hoping the next Nexus is on VZW, and made by Moto with plenty of Nexus design influences by Google.

      BRING ON THE SUPER MOTO NEXUS LTE! ($299 off contract)

      • http://profiles.google.com/ryanstrat Ryan Strat

        I hope for a Verizon version too, because that means it will likely make its way to Sprint!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=548497404 Hans Dirk Kwazneski

      Completely agree, I won’t be getting this device, well for starters, it’s not on VZW haha. It’s LG, no LTE, and it just seems like SOMETHING TO TIDE USERS OVER with… Not impressed. I <3 my Gnex :)

    • mtbhk44

      I have to agree with this. I have the GN on VZ and I find the experience to be quite the opposite of horrible. Battery life certainly has tons of room for improvement but it’s probably the best phone I’ve owned and I don’t regret the move at all. I’m very happy with the GN, regardless of battery life

      • wh1te_mag1c

        I’m not sure how one can be *very* happy with a phone that has as bad battery life as the gnex. While I still love my gnex, I would never say I’m completely happy with it, as I sometimes find myself carrying TWO spare batteries, if, for example, I need it to last 18 hours without being able to charge it. I should not have to do this. I don’t use my phone in an intense way and I think it should last me 18 hours (of fairly light use) on a single battery charge.

        • SA

          I’m there with you. For a night out when I’ll have to be in regular contact with people I make sure my battery is fully charged and take a spare. By the end of the night (7-9 hours), both are done. And that’s on 3G, I always have LTE turned off to save juice. Atrocious. Other than that and the mediocre camera, I feel that the GNex is just about the perfect phone.

          • wh1te_mag1c

            Heh, sounds like you need to buy just one more spare battery and you should be good. Provided you have the willingness to carry around 2 spares.

          • C-Law

            I have the 2100mah battery in mine and I’ve found it can go all day if I use WiFi whenever possible, keep 4g off except when I really need it, and keep data off too and toggle it on when I unlock my phone for something Internet related

      • http://twitter.com/kn1ghth4wk241 Mike Daniels

        i completely disagree, the gnex isnt a good phone, not because its lacking in hardware, but because its lacking in battery, the way i look at it is id rather have a lower spec phone that lasts longer than a high spec phone that only lasts 6 hours(gnex)

        heck the sgs3 is much better than the gnex simply because of the battery life(there is more to it but it isnt much more)

    • Mark Leung

      I’m glad you like your gnex because mine is a POS. Jelly Bean is great but the hardware blows. Medocre cpu, and 3 yr old gpu. But the worst are the radios. Voice and data performance were horrible. LTE was speedy when it had a good connection, but that was rare. I am on my second one and it is just as bad.

      The good news is I preordered my Note 2 on ATT. So goodbye Gnex and Verizon ( with my unlimited data). Now i just need to decide if i will sell my gnex on ebay or blend it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Bell/750747288 Nick Bell

        If you want to blend one.. I will ship you my Gnex with a broken screen and $50 as a swap for your Gnex.. haha

      • markopolo

        Can u pass me ur account i lost mt unlimited data likr 2 years ago

      • Abhijeet Mishra

        Sorry to say, but right now the GPU in the GNex is actually 5 years old, haha.

        • wh1te_mag1c

          As someone who doesn’t care for mobile games more intense than Sudoku, I don’t see that as a problem.

          • Abhijeet Mishra

            Yeah, not a problem as it handles even most HD games quite well, but was just correcting @7bbd7fc56df15f5f6f41f6e99b361381:disqus about the GPU’s age, that’s all :)

      • wh1te_mag1c

        You forgot to mention the 2 worst things about the gnex: 1) Abysmal battery life 2) very lackluster 5mp camera

    • azndan4

      Came back to GNEX from GS3. GNEX is superior except for camera.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rad-Stevens/783228723 Rad Stevens

        Went from Gnex to Razr Maxx to SGS3, rooted running stock jelly bean. I would rather suck Jeff Ross’s c@ck than go back to the Gnex.

    • http://peoplewho.tumblr.com wireless G

      Bugless Beast fixed my problems with it. I used to turn off LTE all the time, and it was a huge pain, just to make it through the day. Now I finish the day around 30% with normal use, and only max out if I have long phone calls or browsing sessions.

      • http://twitter.com/gabrieleromero Gabriel E Romero

        Does bugless beast actually improve battery life?! I might have to do this…

    • http://www.facebook.com/sjtilney Scott Tilney

      I watched the entire game four of the world series on my S3 on Verizon 4G LTE, and still had 39% battery by the time the game was over.

      on ya, GIANTS!!!!!!!!!

      • SA

        That’s pretty impressive. I hadn’t heard such great things about the S3 battery life. Interesting

    • vitriolix

      I have the GN on Verizon… I’m just going to pay my ETA and get on a prepaid plan… I will save money over the next year doing that and get a N4 out of it

      • Sathariel

        Same. The amount you pay for ETF, which should be about ~$200 if you signed up for Verizon with the GNex like me, will be recovered pretty quickly with a pre-paid plan from AT&T or T-Mobile.

        • vitriolix

          That Tmo $30 plan… it’s only 100 minutes, but I almost never use my phone as a… phone. I could probably just use Skype half the time anyhow.

      • EC8CH

        and the satisfaction of giving VZW the finger.

        • michael arazan

          Compromise and Cooperation have become Four letter words now when it comes to corporations. I’m in my 30’s and remember times when corporations used to work with each other for the greater good of customers. Now customers are just replaced with dollar signs. America used to be by the people for the people, now its by the money for the money.

      • blackmagick20

        Good luck on paying your Estimated Time of Arrival!

        • vitriolix

          ETF you :)

      • DonSerrot

        I’m gonna be doing the same. I’ve been looking at StraightTalk, $45/mo for unlimited talk, text, and they say unlimited data too. It seems like it’s unlimited unless you over indulge ALL THE TIME. The area I live in doesn’t even get LTE anyway so it’s not like I’ll be downgrading at all. And they work through T-Mobile and AT&T’s towers so it’s like I’ll be with them, but not having to deal WITH them! LOL!

    • Mark

      It’s unfortunate that the current Nexus sucks though. Shouldn’t things improve? It’s just reallocating things. Some things improve while others go backwards.

      • MikeSaver

        not sure i agree with you there
        -Mike Saver
        CelticsLife
        PatriotsLife

    • palomosan

      This blows, now Google is going an step back, no LTE in this times is really a huge step back, it doesn’t matter the cost. No Verizon, At@t and Sprint, makes no sense.

      • MikeSaver

        Whatever, just buy a Gnex for 1 cent and you still get 4.2.2 goodies.

        -Mike Saver
        CelticsLife
        PatriotsLife

    • Raven

      As much as I hate to say it, I think that this phone should have been called the Nexus 4S. It is just an incremental upgrade of the Galaxy Nexus, it looks very similar, and it doesn’t even have LTE. Wake me up when the Nexus 5 comes out on Verizon.

      • LiterofCola

        I lol’d

      • 4g63mark

        The only upgrade is that you get the same IPS display that’s in the SUPER CHEAP LG Spectrum. Also you get the better quad core processor. Android 4.2 will come to the rest of us GNEX owners. The biggest issues is the massive downgrade in internal storage and data speeds. So I see it as a far lesser phone than the Verizon GNEX. and I’m sure many of you will agree. Especially the Nexus 4 owners when their glass phones start shattering easily like I phones.

      • Kurt Weber

        I thought it was called the nexus 4 because the screen size was 4.7″….

      • Russell Phillips

        Wouldn’t that be the Galaxy Nexus S?

    • http://www.facebook.com/redhillblood357 David Narada Brown

      Yea i wouldnt say its been horrible either. It was frustrating tho with verizon lagging with updates but since i rooted ive been happy as can be. This phone has its areas that need improvement but ive been buying phones that are ghe first of their kind ( OG Droid, Xperia play, and now Galaxy Nexus). I like this phone n will definitely have it another year!

    • EatUrCrap

      Yea, I love my Verizon Galaxy Nexus. It’s the best Android phone I’ve had, with the fewest complaints. A few months ago I got 4G in my area and that made the phone way better, then I got Jellybean, and that made it feel new again. I still love it, and I know the battery is crap, but I rarely have a problem as long as I charge it in my car.