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“Occam” and “Manta” Appear in AnTuTu Benchmarks, Quad-core Snapdragon S4 in the “Occam”?

On Friday, we were introduced to two new devices that could turn into the next Nexus phone and tablet, the “occam” and “manta” respectively. We have no idea who is making these devices, even if some are jumping to the wild conclusion that they are made by Motorola. While we would love to see a Motorola Nexus, a codename is just not enough to go on to assume that this is made by them. For all we know, the “occam” is the oft-rumored LG Nexus phone and the “manta” is the Nexus 10 made by Samsung. 

To help validate the case that these devices are real though, we thought we should point out that the devices have been benchmarked in AnTuTu. The “manta” is showing up as running a 1.7GHz processor and Android version “JellyBeanM.” The “occam” is showing up with a 1.5GHz processor and Android 4.2, the version of Android expected to debut in the next month on the next Nexus.

We can’t necessarily tell what type of processor either is running, unless we compare the “occam” to a benchmark run on the HTC DLX (or what some are referring to as the “Incredible X“). The DLX is expected to be HTC’s newest flagship device with a 5” 1080p display and quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro processor. If you look at the “occam” and the DLX, the processor speed is identical at 1512MHz. This could be a coincidence or it could mean they are running the same chipset.

If it helps the cause, the LG Nexus is reportedly based off of the LG Optimus G which also runs a Snapdragon S4 Pro.

Confusing and exciting times.

Via:  Blog of Mobile

  • Cedrik Portugues

    So what exactly is Occam anonymous dude since you’ve held the manta I’d figure you’d have held it as well? Any new news on an xperia nexus?

  • Goose306

    Can’t one just hack their build.prop and get those perceived stats from Antutu since it just gets that info directly out of there…?

    I’mma hack mine to reflect Android 5.0.0 then start browsing all over droid-life so they’ll start reporting a GS3 running Key Lime Pie was sighted…

  • Aaron

    Is there any chance of Nexus devices becoming available for all carriers? And I don’t just mean the top 4. I’m with US Cellular and am fairly happy with my service. And I’m grandfathered into a 5GB plan, which seems generous by today’s standards.

    • Lactose_the_Intolerant

      Hey, hey, enough with the crazy talk! All carriers… we’re just now getting them used to the idea of releasing the same device to the Big 4. Baby steps, man. Baby steps.

      • Aaron

        Now that T-Mobile is acquiring Metro PCS, doesn’t that make US Cellular #5? I wouldn’t call them part of the “Big 5”, but they do offer the SGSIII. Maybe I am crazy, but I don’t mind. I want a Moto Nexus RAZR. Does Verizon own the RAZR brand, or just the Droid part?

        • Lactose_the_Intolerant

          If the carrier works for you, it’s the best one to have. I ended up on Verizon long ago because Cingular didn’t have coverage in my neighborhood.

          VZW owns the Droid branding (licensed from LucasArts) – Motorola has used it on their phones and so has HTC… I presume with VZW’s blessing.

  • Bionic

    If this truly is a Motorola nexus phone. It will be my next.

  • bananatroll

    guys as much as I hate buying into speculation/rumors/hearsay, whole name scheme for these devices here is HIGHLY indicative of motorola… It is entirely possibly that these are devices which are months away from release, but that could mean verizon gets not one, but multiple nexus devices! LG will go to ATT first, and I’m guess HTC goes to big red, with the moto handset coming in february.

    Who knows?


    • Anonymous

      Manta is a Samsung Nexus tablet, not Motorola. I held one myself this weekend. Nexus is a Google thing, so the code-names are for Nexus devices, not specific hardware manufacturers.

  • Bring me the Nexus 5 and Nexus 10 to match my Nexus 7! I need the Nexus trifecta!

  • MotoRulz

    I cant get enough of this.. please keep the rumors coming its got me sooo hyped.

  • Justin W

    My bet is the Manta is running the NVidia Tegra 3+ at 1.7GHz, like the One X+.

  • My money is on both of these being two versions of the same Nexus phone, a-la Toro/Maguro. “Manta” is probably a US CDMA/LTE version on either Verizon or Sprint and “Occam” is probably an unlocked worldwide GSM version.

    • normmcgarry

      One is a tablet and the other is a phone. They know this based on the UserAgent information from server logs.

    • Anonymous

      I held Manta in my hands this weekend. It’s a Samsung Nexus tablet at about 10″ – stereo speakers on the front… Really nice.

      • Tannen Skriver

        Annnnnd nobody believes the anon. Nice try buddy.


    everyone else is retracting fake rumors yet here DL is giving us more….

    • Russell Tanner

      Well, they do say up front that they have no idea who is making the devices. I think that’s fair.

      • JSIN

        I think he means that there is Zero mention of the retractions everyone else is posting just more rumors

  • XvierX

    These screen shots say AT&T. Lame.

    • Butters619

      That’s from the phone of whoever searched AnTuTu

      • XvierX

        Ah, I see. Thanks

  • qwertyjuan

    um, 3 days ago you were singing a different tune, Kellex. What gives?

  • Butters619

    Who has offices in Poland? That’s where the Occam came from.

    Edit: Both do. Fail

    • normmcgarry

      Samsung has an R&D center, which I think makes them the most likely candidate. Do we know if any phone development happens at the Moto and LG Poland offices?

  • The only way VZW is getting a Nexus is if it comes from MotoGoogle

    • Greyhame

      Moto and VZW certainly have the history..

    • solomonshv

      not sure if you are aware, but verizon got the galaxy nexus and it was not from Motorola.

      • And it wasn’t smooth sailing, going forward I don’t think it will be the case.

  • redbar0n11

    JellyBeanM…. RAZR M… hmmmmm.

    • Greyhame

      M for Motorola?

    • kixofmyg0t

      Shhhhhhhh…… Not yet.

    • Lucas Mayo

      Occam’s RAZR?

      • Lactose_the_Intolerant

        Yes and Manta ray go with:
        Wingray – Motorola wifi Xoom
        Stingray – Motorola 4G Xoom