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In the Least Surprising News on the Planet, Verizon’s Galaxy Note 2 Will Reportedly Have a Locked Bootloader

Surprised that the Verizon version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 will reportedly have a locked bootloader? You shouldn’t be. In fact, going forward, you should assume that every Verizon smartphone will have a locked bootloader. That’s who they are and they aren’t about to change it

Big Red thinks that you could potentially harm their network or the experience on their network for others by unlocking your bootloader and installing unapproved software on your device. They have also made deals with content providers to keep bloatware on your device, would rather you not tether at will with your unlimited data plan, and aren’t interested in you bringing your phone back for an exchange after bricking it. Whether any of that stuff is true or matters is not up to you and I, it’s just the way it is, unfortunately.

If the Galaxy Note 2 is going to be your next phone and full custom ROMs are the only way you think you can live life, then you should consider ditching Verizon and going with the same device from one of the other major carriers. If that’s not an option, then pray to some deity that a similar bootloader unlock exploit will arrive as it did for Verizon’s Galaxy S3.

Via:  BriefMobile

  • It kinda makes the phone look better and you can always get a case to cover the back

  • KEN


  • KEN


  • Bati Tsogtsaikhan

    I cant stop laughing at the logo on the front. If anything, it is Samsung’s fault for not standing up to keep Verizon from absolutely butchering an otherwise great phone.

  • RaptorOO7

    Locked bootloader, SHOCKER, oh wait it’s not. Nothing that the great Android Community can’t resolve. Also Verizon chose not to lock down the iP5 and even has allows it to work on all US GSM carriers as well out of the box. So why are they screwing with Android.

  • Can they do that for a 4g phone? I thought anything that runs on a 700mghz spectrum can’t be locked? Like the iPhone 5 on Verizon? Just asking to educate myself

  • Corey Downs

    I don’t see what the big deal is with everyone hating on Verizon. My dad has been with them for over 10 years, and is grandfathered into the unlimited data plan. My Droid X gets 3G 4/4 bars everywhere I go and my dad’s Droid Bionic gets 4/4 4G LTE bars everywhere he goes. I really don’t care what the SGN2 looks like, as long as it has a 5.5″ screen, 4G LTE, and a stylus. I’m sure that It’s my next phone

  • danofiveo

    I’m shocked!

  • my wife has been pushing to leave verizon, this was going to be my next phone. They just pushed me out the door

  • Anyone know if it would be possible to sell your unlimited data plan with verizon? I would totally do that and add my GNex in the mix just to go to another service with less bull.

  • Allen Byrd

    Planning on selling my S2 so I can break my contract.
    Probably going with AT&T. Lol

  • If I didn’t have such a good unlimited plan with them, I’d dump them when the last of my contracts are up and go to StraightTalk… but AT&T blows in my area, and Sprint and T-Mo don’t even exist.

  • Me

    That’s who they are and I AM about to change it….to T-Mobile. Forget Verizon. They’re expensive and they don’t listent to what customers want….

  • glad i jumped ship! StraightTalk allllllllllll the way.

    • HueThree

      Hell yea

  • “That’s who they are and they aren’t about to change it.”

    Which is why I just bought a Galaxy Nexus from Google Play and a T-Mobile SIM card. I actually get better signal than my Verizon Nexus just about everywhere I am (was not expecting that) and am paying $30 per month for unlimited data, texts, and 100 minutes, which was the cost of my grandfathered unlimited data plan alone on Verizon. Selling my Verizon Nexus will more than cover the early termination fee, and the savings on the plan over the next year will more than cover the cost of the new phone.

    Bye Verizon, I’m not going to miss you!

  • SeanBello

    Kellex, sounds like when the new Nexi come out, you’re jumping ship! I’m probably doing the same. I’m not getting VZW 4G service any time soon anyway, so whatever.

  • HueThree

    Left Verizon 5 months ago for Straight Talk and unlocked Nexus. I don’t deal with bullshish anymore. Verizon ruins Android.

  • KleenDroid

    Well the SIII was also locked

    But Samsung was kind enough to let an unlocked bootloader to leak. I don’t care if it ships locked as long as what we need is “accidentally” leaked.

    Samsung appreciates the development community.

    However if roms did not include the pen functionality they would not be of much value anyway. I would love to see what the developers could do in roms with the pen. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens with this phone.

  • Go Hawkeyes

    Likely to be unlocked by dev community. I’m fine with Verizon locking devices. It keeps the people who shouldn’t be tinkering from actually tinkering.

  • James

    Any word on a developer version?

    • HueThree

      Unlocked GSM version

  • How f’in cool would a “Galaxy Nexus Note” be? I mean think about it!

  • NexusMan

    Please tell me that photo is not rel….with all that Verizon branding….even on the home button?

    • xXAaronSXx

      I know, that looks really lame. The one on the home button looks like they just had stickers left over and didn’t know where to put them so someone said “hey, they fit on the home button” and for some reason that made it through.

  • kervation

    This is why I hope Verizon will offer a next-gen Nexus device. Slow OS updates will not be an issue with an easy to unlock bootloader and an extensive dev community.

  • ozo012

    And XDA will have it unlocked within a month.

    • AlexKCMO

      Hopefully the same exploit will work on the Note 2.

  • Just Another Tool

    Yet again, we do have the power to do something about it. We’re just not willing to do it. Verizon won’t listen to the few saying they want control of their device…but being the typically “technically savvy”, we can highly encourage our friends and family onto other more consumer friendly networks. Verizon will get the message eventually.

    Unfortunately, we Americans and westernized cultures aren’t willing to sacrifice the better network.

    • shdowman

      The problem with that is:

      IF people were to start migrating to another carrier with not as good service, that carrier would then have that income to upgrade and properly compete. People don’t want to go to sprint because of their crappy service (me included, although I have almost pulled the trigger several times). If they had a larger subscriber base, they could justify with their investors pumping more $$ into their network.

      Just saying..

  • Once you go Nexus, you never go back.

    • xXAaronSXx

      So true

    • HueThree

      Once you go GSM Nexus you never go back to CDMA

      • I have yet to make this jump. I hope to soon though.

        • sooner is better than later… well.. maybe the next nexus(es) is(are) coming out…

  • I freaking hate this! I have to deal with locked bootloaders and Verizon’s BS because they are the only carrier that provides any decent service where I live. I just recently got 4G, but T-mobile is roaming, AT&T is still on freaking EDGE, and well Sprint just stinks (used to have them).

    So I either have good mobile data and locked phones or bad mobile data and unlockable phones.

    I hate/love you Verizon! You’re like a crappy girlfriend in every way…except the nookie is great! Sigh…

  • enigmaco

    I am contemplating going back to t-mobile especially with the new unlimited data they are offering and verizon wants to take mine away once I upgrade no thanks.

    • frankandsimple

      don’t do it!.. I paid ETF to verizon to go to T-Mobile. T-Mobile uses higher frequency bands.. and inside buildings/stores.. their coverage sucks donkey balls!
      Thankfully VZW refunded my ETF and gave me early upgrade (which I’m using to get iphone 5…).. and I’m happily back with VZW.

      • enigmaco

        I know how the coverage is I been there before lol, and now that wifi is reachable in many spots it is not that much of a concern to me. I was happy with them in the past though. Well now I think about it since they outsourced their call center it was a annoying, at this point it feels like damn if I do and damn if I don’t.

      • Uhhhh Iphone 5 over Note 2?

  • OMG! The sky is falling… The sky is falling…The sky is…oh wait… I thought you meant it’ll be unlock… Never mind then, move along.

  • William_Morris

    “Color me shocked, VZW is releasing another locked bootloader phone!” said noone ever.

  • PC_Tool

    Anyone else see that logo on the home key? Gah…if ihis is a sign of things to come….I really hope they *don’t* get any more Nexus devices.

  • My contract on my VZW GNex will be up in Dec 2013. And that will be the end of Verizon for me. My buddy across the hall at work has an unlocked GSM GNex. He switches between his TMo and ATT pre-paid sims as needed and pays 1/3 the price I pay, has a TRUE Nexus, and couldn’t be happier. That is where I want to be.

  • nickP

    4×4 home screen?

  • xXAaronSXx

    I shared my comments over on another site but wanted to share here as well. With Verizon, in my opinion anyway, its all about money. Verizon wants to sell you new phones so they can get people out of their unlimited data plans. The biggest benefit to having an unlocked bootloader (for me anyway) is extending the life of my phone past its official update life. My OG Droid is a perfect example. Yes, I know that roms are possible with locked bootloaders, I had CM7 on my Droid X2, but its easier and less risky with your bootloader unlocked. And an unlocked bootloader usually attracts more devs to the phone. If I’m happy with my current phone for longer, I keep my unlimited data for longer. I have learned that Verizon’s decision making has little to do with their subscriber’s happiness and more to do with their greed. I am really beginning do dislike them (well, all but their coverage) and will be shopping the competition as soon as my contracts are up.

    • DJyoSNOW

      I’m buying a device (note2) out right. Just because I used 3gigs I’m not saving money and realistically would save 30 to 40 bucks a month. So in the long run I’ll save money and keep unlimited data over a two year period.

    • i think the reason for the locked bootloaders is to prevent ppl from tethering for free. I know you can still do it with an unrooted phone, but you cant wireless tether without bootloader unlocked

  • summit1986

    …which will be hacked and unlocked in less than 2 weeks.

    • moelsen8

      encrypted bootloaders aren’t just “hacked”. it’s so close to impossible to “hack” an encrypted bootloader within any reasonable amount of time that it’s probably better off just saying it’s impossible. the reason the SGS3 and others were unlocked by the community was because of leaked bootloaders that were unsecured.

  • Greg Morgan

    Verizon is not doing anything to change my mind about dumping them in the Spring when my contract is up.

    • Emz

      That’s what I said all those years ago when I left and moved over to T-mobile and I have been SO happy ever since. Now though where I am in NY, I have no coverage and I want this phone and I do NOT want to go back to Verizon…

      • Greg Morgan

        So i was thinking of going to Tmo, you would recommend?

        • Emz

          As a company,..I LOVE T-Mobile. I do not think any other company can compare to the top quality customer service one receives from them. I have always felt they bend over backwards to do anything they can for me in all the years I have been a customer. As far as to WHERE I have service, well that has become more of a problem recently. Yet even with my lack of coverage in my current area, even though my contract expired in the beginning of 9/2012, I have not left them and deal with my coverage problems because I would rather do that, and have a back up prepaid Verizon I carry in case of an emergency than have any major dealings with another company.
          That said…I WANT the Note ll. So now I have to decide whom to get it through. I have been trying to find out if T-mobile is going to try to boost their networks in this area at all.(For instance, I have a current open report going in my area right. I have a T-Mobile rep that calls me every week to let me know the status of that and to let me know she is taking it to the next level to try to get me better coverage)
          (Can you really see Verizon bothering to do that or AT&T?)
          If they can do that I probably will get it through them and sign another 2 year. I really don’t think I can make myself get back in the boat with Verizon. They treat you like dirt. When I left them I told them no matter what they ever offered me, no mattered what they comped me, what phone they had,I wouldn’t stay and I would never go back. I don’t think I can do it now. They are the worst company but with good coverage, but they just aren’t worth it. Maybe if people started dropping them left and right they would start changing how they treat us and remember, THEY need US to stay in business.

          • Greg Morgan

            Thanks man, that helps!!

  • mustbepbs

    Hopefully Samsung will give the Note2 boys a bone like they did with the GS3 on VZW.

    • I’m hoping for the same, since I got to pay full price to keep unlimited anyway.

  • Andrew Remmers

    Man, whats with carriers and stuff these days? They say that everything will be unlocked by date X and still only a few devices actually have it. Come on people your almost as bad as government. Step it up and actually do something.

  • reyalP

    Verizon is such a Neo-Maxi-Zoom-Dweebie!

    • William_Morris

      Nice reference there.

  • Mario Mendez

    Unlock Bootloader app FTW

    • moelsen8

      i’m not sure you get it.

      • Mario Mendez

        It’s never bad to have hope.

  • Joshua Dudash

    God I hope that logo isn’t permanent. Also.. a developer version please? Not like I would buy on contract at this point anymore…. Not going to lose my unlimited data.

    +1 jldleo… I’ll be right there with you.

  • Buy This

    But the VZW S3 bootloader can still be unlocked correct??

    • Greg Morgan

      Correct. These bootloaders are not encrypted like Moto phones, but there’s no guarantee that it can be unlocked.

      • moelsen8

        hrm, this and the sgs3 aren’t encrypted like moto? that’s interesting. why lock them if they won’t be encrypted?

        • Greg Morgan

          Bc it annoys us to no end and like I said there’s no guarantee that it will be unlocked. Samsung probably makes sure it’s not encrypted at least.

    • cruzfl0w

      I don’t think it can with the new update. With every update Verizon pushes out they will block root methods and the such. Yes out developers are great and usually find work around, but there is never a guarantee.

  • r0lct

    Hopefully it’s as locked down as the S3 is so it won’t be a big deal. But something I would wait to happen before purchasing.

    • moelsen8

      yeah but the only reason the verizon S3 is unlocked is because an unsecured bootloader was leaked. i’ll bet you verizon gave sammy hell for that and it won’t be happening again anytime soon.

      • I disagree. Nobody can prove Samsung leaked the bootloader, so there is nothing Verizon can do about it. If Verizon is going to force bootloader locking, I would fully expect the unlocked bootloader to be leaked for every device moving forward.

        Nobody is on Verizon’s side but Verizon, and they are slowly going to lose their power. When CDMA is no longer needed, and subsidized phones go away, they will have no control at all.

        • moelsen8

          here’s hoping it’s sooner than later.

  • Steve

    i have a nexus and will not upgradd anytime soon. My brothers TBolt still does not have Ice Cream Sandwich. Until people stop this viscious fk / chuck / upgrade cycle created by the phone manufaturers and service providers things will not improve,

    • Derek

      The service provider causes 80% of the delays in getting updates b/c of all the special concessions they demand.

    • Hunter

      Interesting how you paint the people as the problem in that scenario.

    • I’m not your brother.

  • Murphy

    The only thing keeping me with Verizon is their 4G network. If Sprint’s 4G makes it here to Denver, bye bye Big Red.

  • jldleo

    The moment that the other carriers are up to par with their 4g LTE coverage i’m outa here Verizon

    • napes22

      You beat me to the same comment. I’m tired of Verizon pulling this garbage.

    • mustbepbs

      I’m actually waiting till my contracts are up mid next year to switch to prepaid T-MO. The coverage isn’t nearly as good as Verizon, but I’m on wifi 98% of my day so I don’t care. I’m done getting reamed.

      • I moved to T-Mobile when they announced that they were ditching unlimited. Buying a phone outright just isn’t worth it. I’m paying less than half what I used to. Moreover, the network is being refarmed by the end of the year so it’ll be up to par. HSPA+ is better than Verizon 3G but slower than LTE. Worth it though. Sprint’s a nightmare and ATT…well. ehh

        • mustbepbs

          I’m planning on buying 2 GSM Galaxy Nexus’ for me and my wife and getting prepaid T-MO or Straight Talk SIMs, depending on the price at the time. It’ll be nice to have an international phone for once.

          • Emz

            Where I lived in Raleigh NC I had great TMo & in in Denver CO I had great TMo coverage. Here in Orange County NY I have the worst coverage to No and I mean NO coverage with Tmo. If I am not on wifi I can’t use my phone. I love T-mobile and I want to stay with them if for nothing else because of the way I am treated. They have hands down the best customer service, but there is just no point when I can’t even use my phone. They seem to have no intentions of fixing that issue in the near future which leaves me stuck having to choose between AT&T or Verizon. AT&T is spotty coverage at best where I am. I HATE Verizon and am not too encouraged about AT&T. Whats a person to do though. My contract is up with Tmo. I have been waiting for this phone to hit the carriers to see who is doing what, waiting to see if Tmo is gonna make a move and improve in this area. Tmo has until this phone comes to the US to do something in this area, for me to stay with them. Its a shame Verizon is the big school bully and gets to rule the playground. I am so tired of it.
            I buy the phone, I pay the bill. I should get to have it the way I want it. What happened to the customers always right?
            I feel I get that kind of great service with T-mobile…Which is why I left Verizon all those years ago. I hate the idea I have to go back now.

        • Tony Allen

          T-Mobile’s HSPA+ also covers half *I’m being generous* of the Verizon 3G and 4G coverage. T-Mobile gets EDGE/GPRS for days where I live, no 3G much less “4G” in sight.

          • That sucks, dude. I get HSPA+ and 3G quite ofted. Edge should really be phased out.

      • Emz

        T-Mo has plans – wifi/uma calling plans that allow for free/unlimited call while on uma status. Just throwin it out there…

    • moelsen8

      me too, i’m out when the new nexi drop. putting my money where my mouth is and heading to straight talk or tmo prepaid. i’m sick of this abusive relationship.

    • KEN

      ME TOO !!!!!!

  • Did they actually squeeze a Verizon logo onto the home button???

    • MikeCiggy

      In my opinion this is probably only a test device in the photo and the production device will probably only sport the logo on the back. Let’s hope!

      • Hunter

        I’m not sure why a test device needs a logo at all, let alone 2. Therefore I would assume the other way and that it will indeed sport two hideous badges. What the EFF Verizon!

    • I was thinking the same thing. It is incredibly ugly.

    • MichaelFranz

      honestly that turned me off about the phone….if that really is the case. I dont mind the back cover being like that with the logo

    • Butters619

      They want you to never forget who is bending you over.

    • Liderc

      I can’t believe they did that lol. It’s hideous.

      • LiterofCola

        I actually agree with you.

    • Tony Allen

      No, it’s clearly just a sticker if you actually look at the photo.

    • inzandity

      Looks like it might just be a sticker though. Look at the left and right. Hopefully it just peels right off

    • Raven

      The has got to be about the tackiest branding that I have ever seen.

    • feztheforeigner

      Nope, it’s a sticker