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Dear Apple, the iPhone 5 is Not the “World’s Thinnest Smartphone”

At 7.6mm thin, the iPhone 5 comes in as Apple’s thinnest iPhone offering to date. Interestingly enough, today Apple’s Phil Schiller made the claim that it is the world’s thinnest smartphone, but it looks Apple didn’t even bother to take a look at what the competitors have put out in the past year or so. In fact, there is one device in particular that is much thinner than the iPhone 5.

The original DROID RAZR for Verizon by Motorola comes in at a 7.1mm, which is a quite noticeable difference. So, is this Apple just not fact checking or are they trying to tell me the RAZR wasn’t a smartphone? Either way, case solved.

Update:  Since there are a few in the building who would like to point out that the RAZR’s hump makes it thicker, we may as well toss the Huawei P1 Ascend (6.7mm), ZTE Athena (6.2mm), and the Oppo Finder (6.65mm) into the conversation.

Cheers Kyle and Chris! 

  • Atom_13

    Congratulations, your phone is thinner, but it still isn’t an iPhone. The iPhone 5 is like Charles Darwin, and a Droid is like Helen Keller.

  • techless ijunk5

    crApple always never know what shame is, saying stupid low IQ slogan like “most advanced computer to date” , “world thinnest smartphone” , “most beautiful map”………etc, but never know they r” most techless, greedy and low IQ company”

  • beachguy757
    • beachguy757

      yeah its….reallllly only 7.1mm thats retarded. if you cant fit the camera in the 7.1mm phone and you have to bumpout a portion then no you cant claim its the thinnest phone

  • AmpSkillz

    When the Iphone 5 is released on 9/21/12 it will be the thinnest available smartphone based on the thickest point, even compared to the Oppo Finder which is the only one mentioned that is currently available

    Iphone 5 vs. Oppo Finder: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8435/7945064010_6e9d63129a.jpg
    Oppo Finder Measured: http://i.imgur.com/ITJxb.png
    Please explain how they were wrong?? Are you saying they need to consider all future phones when making the thinnest smartphone claim?


    apple said and still says in the website that it is the worlds thinnest IPHONE!!

  • Droid4All

    One thing that people will hate me for: You don’t hold the razr at the thick camera part, so does it really SEEM like it’s 10 mm?

  • Not a fair comaprison! You need ti compare Apples to Apples. LOL. The iPhone 5 IS the thinnest phone with a high def Retina display and an 8 MP camera. Just sayin…

  • anthony

    And i think Apple didn’t claim the 5 as the “World’s Thinnest Smartphone”… They only said “Thinnest iPhone, ever”.

  • Alex

    you guys are butthurt.
    android is dead
    i was once stupid and thought android could be better than the iphone
    then i got an iphone
    stupid i was indeed

  • Carl

    Are they even allowed to market it as such a phone when it’s not true? I thought the Atrix got some beating by the British when it was announced as the “fastest” smartphone or something?

  • K. Nelson

    What does it matter how thin the iPhone is? Most of the people I know triple its thickness with an otterbox defender case.

  • prestone1

    the iphone is the worlds thinnest phone- until you all put your otterbox case on it.

  • cowdog

    While the spec geeks obsess over IP5 thickness in comparison to hump phones and call it a marginal upgrade, it looks like Apple beat everyone to market with the ARM Cortex A15 cores. I don’t think anyone, not even Samsung, could put so much tech into such a small package. I don’t know if I will go IP5 or wait and see what Nexus devices come out (sooner is better oh google overlord), but this new iPhone is an impressive piece of hardware.

  • daniel oliveira

    pode até ser o aparelho mais fino mas odeio os aparelhos da motorola são muito complicados para mexer em termos de menu do aparelho horrivel, não troco a samsung por nada….

  • Melissa

    Oh and let’s not forget how Apple used a Google Android REGISTERED patent when it came to voice typing on Android. AND!! The notification bar at the top which allows you to multitask on the I-Phone. OH!!! Wait!!! That’s AGAIN Another Google Android Patent!! And how they claim that Panorama camera is so creative of them.. I cannot stand Apple. Everything they do and make is a stolen idea. I mean you know Apple may have come out with some of the technology used today I’ll give them credit where it’s due because it is only fair. But, I hate how they claim that Android is a stolen idea and their goal is to destroy it. Apple needs to stop picking on its competitors and MAKE something USEFUL!! They have only put a target on their head. And I’m willing to bet this will not be the end of the patent wars with Apple. I’m pretty sure we will see companies come up and sue Apple for using their patents and stealing them. Apple plays innocent but they are not. They are copycats who put an Apple logo on their overpriced JUNK.

    • beachguy757

      apple created the market that allowed android to exist so shut your trap about copying..and using a patent is not the same as using the technology that is patented without consent from the patent owner. Its funny how samsung has an s3 commerical claiming the their bump technology is new. been in the app store for years

      • Melissa

        “apple created the market that allowed android to exist” <– Actually NO. Android was created in 2005. 1 YEAR BEFORE IOS WAS EVEN CREATED. And waaaayyy before Google ever owned the Android Project. Read your facts. "Android is a Linux-based operating system designed primarily for touchscreen mobile devices such as smartphones and tablet computers, developed by Google in conjunction with the Open Handset Alliance.[2] Initially developed by Android Inc, whom Google financially backed and later purchased in 2005"

        You just got told Apple fan boi.

        • beachguy757

          Oh so were going to go by when the companies develepoed the OSs in house? okay because I though we were going by when people could actually use the damn. Im not an Apple fan boy I appreciate android for what it is but claiming your orginals very funny, apparently apple only developed the first iphone in 2 years. You know the CPUs being made today were tested 10 years ago? you need to stop looking for ways to win over an iphone. blackberry had a keypad. Iphones were the first smart touch phones that had no issues with a “multi gesture” touch screen and your touch not being delayed, i dont even know how long it even took android to catch up on screen latency but android is still losing.

          Just keep on picking one element at a time to win an argument where obviously your emotion controls you. Th iPhone was and will always be the precursor of the market that iOS launched and Android piggybacked on. Without the iPhone android phones would have flopped. Furthermore Android was a BETA OS until 2008. And do you even know where linux came from? Its a free version of Unix which didnt work unitl Linus Torvald wrote the kernel that made it linux. Regardless your OS is based off of Apple. So keep making up your own facts while I can back mine with solid research and not wikipedia. Funny thing is I was researching these phones since 2005 when i first caught eye of them. an as soon i can find it i will tell you when iOS was *developed and not released which you are trying to claim is what matter here. Its funny you think it was really developed before iOS when it was such a bad operating system it didnt work well at all.

          So like I said keep making arguments for every little detail you when you should be considering the whole package, which is what this article should be about when tryin to claim the thinnest smartphone

          Oh here we go….The first iPhone was started in 2004

          • beachguy757

            Ill be waiting for you to bring up more bullsh** information, like a defense attorney. This for me is not about apple vs android, its about being knowing that im right and youre wrong and the facts need to be known. Andorid fanboys and girls are so stubborn when it comes to the truth about these things. go look up and apple fan site and see if theyre anything like these droid sites

      • Melissa

        And you want to talk about someone creating the whole smartphone market??? How about that Blackberry? Oh and how about IBM? Here read your facts some more. “The first cellular phone to incorporate PDA features was an IBM prototype developed in 1992 and demonstrated that year at the COMDEX computer industry trade show”

        • beachguy757

          look at you going off you know damn well the iphone started a new smartphone market

      • Melissa

        And let me further some facts for you lol while we are talking about Apple: “The iPhone ( /ˈaɪfoʊn/ eye-fohn) is a line of smartphones designed and marketed by Apple Inc. The iPhone runs Apple’s iOS mobile operating system, originally named “iPhone OS”. The first iPhone was released on June 29, 2007;[1] “

        • beachguy757

          Youre so ignorant. Apple didnt invent the GUI or the mouse Xerox did and they licensed it from xerox. You keep trying to say that the market we now call “smartphones” is the same market of “smartphones” before the iphone which is completely idiotic. And just so were clear the first Andorid phone, The HTC Dream was released in the U.S. on 22 October 2008. THERES NOTHING INNOVATIVE ABOUT ANDROID FROM COPYING IOS YOU STUPID BITCH.

        • beachguy757

          You know youre starting to remind me of christians claiming god created us and evolution never happened

      • Melissa

        Now who created the market? NOT APPLE. Nothing innivative about Apple.

      • Melissa

        Now if you are talking about Apple making that market more appealing to the every day consumer instead of businesses… Yes, I would agree that Apple made the smartphone cool and the popular thing to have. But, they DID NOT create the market what so ever. IN FACT THEY WERE THE LAST TO ENTER THAT MAKRET. Read your facts bro. And now about patents…. Apple used a lot of Google’s patents as did Google with Apple. But, you cannot say that Apple created everything and sit here and tell me that Apple is innovative in anyway. All apple does is make stuff “LOOK” cool. They, make tech look cool and use their name as a marketing scheme to get people to continue to buy their products. Nothing innovative about that. Apple has been doing this for years. Even before Steve Jobs came back to the company after being fired. Now, if you want to get the facts down… Apple was innovative when they created the GUI on the desktop computer. They were innovative when they created the mouse. Yes, I will admit Apple made a lot of things possible. But, I will not sit here and listen to this mumble jumble about how Apple created all of the tech out there because we all know it is not true. Apple likes to claim it yes… But, that’s their marketing tactic. They all claim they made it..

  • Low Tech Guy

    guys he said Thinest Smartphone.. the other phone thats thin.. isn’t a smart phone.. its a dumbphone.. LOL

  • Melissa

    Haven’t we all learned that this is Apple’s Tech not ours? I mean Apple loves to claim how everything they do is their Technology and people fall for it. Really Apple? Well, I’m guessing that Voice Dictation in the Mac Computers was yours too right? Oooooohhhh wait I forgot Microsoft and Linux have been using that technology for years. And really Apple? Round edges on cell phones is one of your patents? How about you tell that to all the cell phone manufacturers in the world who have made cell phones and smart phones BEFORE the release of the first generation I-Phone. Oh, and I love how Apple says that Android is a stolen product. And a stolen idea. How about Android was out before IOS? How about Microsoft was making smartphones before the both of them were? How about Blackberry? Is Windows Phone and Blackberry a stolen idea too? Please Apple is nothing more then a copycat who takes someone else’s work and simply makes it look better. Then calls it theirs. Just because you take someone else’s idea and edit it DOES NOT MAKE IT YOURS. And just because you put an Apple logo on your crappy products does not mean YOU made it. So, I find this claim of Apple saying their I-Phone 5 is the thinnest smartphone in the world to be another way of Apple claiming others technology to be theirs. And I love how they boasted about their 700,000 apps on their app store… But, most Apple I-Phone users would claim that most of the apps on there are worthless and useless. And cost money. Something that would normally be free on Google Play costs a ton more on Apple’s App Store because Apple sucks at treating their app developers like Adults instead of pre-schoolers.

    Thank you Droid-Life for calling Apple out. You guys are awesome 🙂

    • Guest

      and if that other comment isnt posted this is truly a really biased site

  • dmagicp

    Interestingly enough, today Apple’s Phil Schiller made the claim that it is the world’s thinnest smartphone, but it looks Apple didn’t even bother to take a look at what the competitors have put out in the past year or so.
    And I might add, by looking at the specs and improvements to this latest apple offering, It is clear that not only have they not been paying attention to their competitors, they apparently haven’t been doing much innovating either.

    • possomcrast1

      Jobs is rolling over in his grave.There’s so many things he said he’d never do that Apple is doing. The wake of Jobs will soon run out and the company will go on a path to destruction like before he came back. Then, Android will run the world.

      • beachguy757

        Steve jobs set apple up with 4 years of plans after his death try again

  • JoshHenry

    I own a Razr.. I hate how people trip out on these numbers. Its all about how it feels in the hand. And my 7.1mm thin Razr feels amazing, sometimes too thin. Even with the hump, that I never feel.

  • keneo

    Sorry, iPhone really is the worlds thinnest smartphone.
    Huawei P1 Ascend, ZTE Athena, and the Oppo Finder all have humps or buldging cameras.

    Apple wouldn’t make such a claim without doing their research.
    The question is did you do yours?

  • myhump

    the hump you idiots,

  • Mei Wang

    You are supposed to measure from the base, that’s what I’ve heard.

  • daniel.archibald33

    No the Razr isnt a smartphone, It is a Superphone. the iphone 5 is only a smartphone

  • keneo

    Sorry but iPhone 5 really is the worlds thinnest phone…Huawei P1 Ascend has a hump as well.
    Oppo Finder has a bulging camera.
    ZTE Athena is harder to nail down because google has too many different images of it, but more than a few of the images for that also show a bulging camera.

    I doubt Apple would make such a claim without doing their research.
    The question is, have YOU done yours?

    • Jeetu K

      oppos camera hump is not mre than an mm which would still make it 7.2 mm still thinner .. hump included .. and just cos you cant nail zte down doesnt mean it doesnt count … if they said slimmest phone available in the US it would be more plausible .. but to say in the world is just wrong ..

      • keneo

        You don’t truly know how much that camera hump measures. Neither do I. Since we don’t know, we shouldn’t go out and declare them to be thinner phones. The title of this article says Apple is wrong. But the author obviously didn’t thoroughly research it first. As for ZTE, I did a little more looking, and YES it also has a hump. The camera hump is the real challenge on any phone thickness. Unless someone measures these humps, calling Apple a liar is not an option.

      • beachguy757
    • dmagicp

      I think the point of the matter is who cares how thin it is when it is being touted as the standard in which all others should be measured, when the standard, in apples case, is a smartphone that seams to be only catching up to android phones from 2010.

      • beachguy757

        how is it catching up from 2010 haha man make up so much bs on this website, you guys are in your own world

        • beachguy757

          man i can name one thing already best screen resolution from android was 480×854. iphone 4 had 960×640 on a smaller screen huge difference in picture.

    • beachguy757

      best reply ive read yet…have you done yours haha thank you

  • Big E

    Perhaps what Apple meant was the thinnest LTE smartphone? I’m not sure but I don’t think the other phones listed support LTE. Still a stretch for sure, but I think more accurate.

    • Theirs won’t support LTE either after the Samsung lawsuit.

      • beachguy757

        LTE is a data standard like 802.11 a/b/g/n cant sue over that

  • master94

    Apple, lying all the way to the bank and the ifans eat it up.

  • Important note: Apple made the reference in the keynote, but the product pages just call it the thinnest iPhone. Think it’s either a goof in the keynote script or a sly way to plant the idea in people’s heads while staying honest on the permanent record.

  • satsmine2k4

    Huawei and oppo should sue apple for lieing to customers…I will sure hurt their reputation( which is only good with isheep)…

    • beachguy757

      lying about what
      do your research

      • satsmine2k4

        Yes i did research oppo finder 5 = 6.65mm thick…
        oh wait…. your going by what SIRI told you aren’t you…..

        • You looked for a biased article that said the phone is thinner, yet if you find the devices actual thickness at the camera it is 8.1mm. I DID do my research hoss.

  • AnGeLFaCe777

    My razr is the thinner and the best when it came out on 2011.

  • Devilsephiroth

    ” 2x faster ” that vague description is why I can’t stand Apple . But that’s what gets their stupid customers to believe anything they say 2x faster means its probably 2x faster than the 3gs but not 2x faster than the sgs3 quad core processor in the UK . Yeah they’re not talking About that phone right ?

    • beachguy757

      You dont know anything about CPU/GPU/OS integration, just because youre gs3 has a quad core doesnt mean its a faster device. And they are only talking about the iPhone 5 vs the 4S wchich is how they present it every year. new model vs last model.
      Your quad core could be using 45nm transistor process and the A6 can be using 28nm process which is a signifigant size reduction and allows for more components in the chip so you need to learn about what youre talking about before you mouth off

  • M.Spit

    also please note that no iphone owner i have ever seen rocks their iphone without one of those giant inflatable rafts around their phone. thats some serious hump…age…

  • Doan

    The thickest part of a phone should be used when determining how thin it is. But no matter, apparently, because there are other phones that are thinner all the way around.

  • MicroNix

    I do have to say that with the number of “Apple” articles on DL today, I almost feel like I’m at Engadget…

    • Jason James

      it will be over soon dont worry htc will be blowing this place up(hopefully)

  • enob

    I like that there is an entire comment thread debating a couple millimeters.

  • possomcrast1

    We all know when you apply the real equation they’re all above average
    ((L x G) / (∠A°)) / (M / W)
    L=length d=diameter w=weight G=gerth t=tip A=shaft M=mass W=width

    • JB

      Lol, South Park!

    • Stevedub40

      How many gerth units is that?

  • Joe

    a lot of the phones being mentioned aren’t even sold outside of their home country; so can they really be compared with something that’s going to be offered [mostly] worldwide? technically, at that point, the iPhone will the world’s thinnest phone in terms of how many countries its sold in. just a thought.

    • Hunter

      Technically I can fabricate constraints to make just about anything true. So for the sake of argument and all BS aside we want the best apples to apples (heh pun) comparison which does not take into account markets sold.

      • Joe

        haha. fair enough. Maybe its the thinnest 4″ phone? either way, whatever. I’d rather have battery life over thinness no matter what phone I’m looking at. Just wish my GNex had better battery life, it’d be almost perfect then.

  • The rant Droid Life just posted explains this situation perfectly!

  • Oppo Finder: 6.65mm
    ZTE Athena: 6.2mm
    Huawei Ascend P1S: 6.68mm

    Just to name a few. ;]


      All of these have camera sticking out so it still comes down to a matter of perspective. Plus Athena has no foreseeable release date yet. It’s amazing how fast the Chinese firms really pushed the numbers to the extreme when compared to all the big players in the industry.

    • beachguy757

      i dont see whats so hard about understanding you have to measure fromthe thickest people dont comprehend. I dont remembering ever hearing about anyone in history measuring thickness of anything at the thinnest point

      • beachguy757

        and not to mention what is the performance going to be like on these phones? it wont be as great as how slim the phone is

  • a.youth.in.Asia

    What Apple meant to say was that the iPhone 5 is the worlds thinnest 4″ screen… Because last time I checked ZTE and their Athena smartphone measured 6.2mm

  • Mike_Cook7

    I think Moto or Huawei (Ascend P1 S) should sue for False advertising or maybe I should buy one then sue for false advertising. “Not the thinnest” and after their Samsung win unless they want to take that back it can’t be unlike any other smartphone out there today!

  • Adam Medina

    Wow! You should see the iphone blogs when a new android phone comes out its non stop commentary and articles. Just kidding. You guys care too much lol. IOS = stability speed awesome apps and superior hardware. My gnex is cheap. Bye haters. Jk.

  • NexusMan

    I guess it’s subjective…just like how Apple also claimed that ios6 is the world’s most advanced OS. lol.

    • beachguy757

      so thin they couldnt fit all the pieces inside…try again, theyre both still thicker like it or not

  • ~dArK.AnGeL

    When people compliment my RAZR; no saids,,, “awww… but what an ugly bump!”;…. nor does it even crosses my mind when I use it on a daily basis… enjoying it’s ecstatic and awesome thin feeling…. RAZR ROCKSs!

  • Pedro

    Shoot, if you can measure a phone’s thickness at any point, my GNex is only 0.1mm just near the edge.
    How thick is that power switch?

    RAZR was never 7.1mm if it can’t slide through a 7.1mm slot.

    And I’d rather see an iPhone at x.1mm and 48 hours of real life battery to push other manufacturers. Did I mention I have a GNex?

  • Stinker

    Half a mm is “quite noticeable.” Also, who cares?

  • TimothyLMJR

    Phil screwed up then. All they say from their site is:

    “The thinnest, lightest, fastest iPhone ever”.

    • Hunter

      They said it in the live presentation

      • TimothyLMJR

        Right, but I guess the main site is all that matters. Now, if it was published on their site, and it was being used as a selling feature, then they are in hot water.

        • Hunter

          I’m not all that up in arms about it. And it does matter that a representative of the company actually said it…presumably as a selling feature, and many reporters are going to take his words verbatim and republish.

        • Jason James

          no its not all that matters because if someone does a search and all sites say “worlds thinnest phone” then that person will believe its true and apple will leave it off their site and say its not on there and at the time they said it they didnt know it wasn’t true. which is BS!

  • well thickness integrated over the length should be the standard of measure so id say razr wins.

  • China has the OPPO Finder Android phone measuring at 6.5mm thick. So there’s STILL no excuse for Apple’s BS!

    • AmpSkillz

      go learn somethng.. the Oppo is still thicker at the camera hump. What’s the excuse for your BS?

  • paul_cus


  • Bad apple! You should be sued for false advertising!

  • Sjschwar

    Huawei Ascend P1?

    • paul_cus


    • vvtim

      The P1 is 7.69mm. The P1s is thinner, but not uniformly so (ala RAZR).

  • Ok, so apparently everyone immediately thought of the hump… does it count if roughly 90% of the phone is thinner? Majority rules, right?

    • will bartlett


    • mike.s

      Nope. The RAZR is over 10 mm thick. Most of it is 7.1 mm, but the top end is thicker. If it won’t fit between two parallel plates spaced 7.1 mm apart, then it’s thicker than that, otherwise, it’s like claiming a wedge of cheese has no thickness. The iPhone 5 is a consistent thickness throughout.

      • dmagicp

        Well lets not get so caught up in how thick the Razr is, or how thin the iphone is. The iphone is an LTE phone and that my friends, is innovation.

        • Ian Flanagan

          The RAZER is LTE too

        • mikewong27

          why would it be “innovation” when iphone is an LTE phone. There are lots of android phones that are LTE. But guess what, HTC and Samsung will sue Apple for using LTE on their phone. iphone 5 ban soon???

          • Troy Hedman

            Sarcasm is lost on the internet…

          • beachguy757

            gee maybe its innovation because there was barely any infrastructure for 4g when these phones had lte…..that called being impractical

          • sam_d

            Apple, Samsung, HTC, Motorola and Nokia all use Qualcomm chip which gives them LTE.. don’t give biased credits to Apple for LTE.. the LTE chip and whole protocol software stack comes from Qualcomm. Qualcomm seems to be the company to beat these days..

      • JolleyMan

        That’s a good point. I always hold my phone between two plates of glass when I talk on it. I wonder if the iPhone 5 will cut the aforementioned cheese.

    • Too bad they’ll need to wrap a 5mm case around it to keep it from the Apple signature “grip of death”

      • Adamania

        Is that like a Death Knight’s “Death Grip”?

      • beachguy757

        what the hell grip of death are you talking about? does everyone have montrous hands that own iphones? im pretty sure its very easy to hold with little effort

    • nightscout13

      False. Phones should be measured as the thickest part of the phone. Just like an edge-to-edge should be labeled only if it really is edge to edge.

    • AmpSkillz

      well a judge ruled that Motorola could not claim to be the thinnest based on their Droid RAZR hump so… no

  • Bill Mitchell

    I don’t know about that, honestly. I’m an avid Android user, even owned a Droid Razr for a little while, but I never considered it a 7.1mm phone because of that horrid hump.

  • Aaron

    They will just say they measured the razr at the hump. You can manipulate numbers and stats in a million ways and apple is very very good at it.

    • beachguy757

      any engineer will tell you you measure “thick”ness at somethings thickest point not the thinnest, all of the other companies and you android fanboys are manipulating numbers, if you cant fit all of the parts inside the thinnest point its no longer that thin.

  • I was screaming this on the live abc feed. They only wanted to post positive comments and ignored me
    Some journalisttc integrity

  • Does the 7.1mm take the camera “hump” into account? The Droid Razr Maxx is listed at 8.99mm, and I thought that was the same thickness as the camera portion of the standard Razr.

  • Michael Forte

    Didn’t you know? It’s also the first phone with a 4″ screen and LTE as well…

  • TD

    Without the hump?

    • Agreed, I have the Razr and i love its slim design but hate the hump

  • schoat333

    The entire phone isn’t 7.1mm tho. I think thats the point.

  • LivinFree

    yeah and lets not forget the SG3 is the SAME thickness if you convert to metric. then low and behold there was another device by I forget who but was measuring in at 6.2mm


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  • drewfus0929

    Thinnest overall phone maybe is what they were thinking. I don’t really count the Razr either because of the large hump.

  • shopdroid

    Yay! I have the thinnest phone in the world! But I am sure apple is measuring the hump that Motorola put in the RAZR? Sigh… Motorola…

  • Yeaaaaah, but the razr has that ugly hump. Not a consistent thickness.

  • NexusMan

    Did you read my post? LOL. I literally just posted this exact same thing on this site, in my reactions to that ridiculous Apple event…at least Jon Ive got it right, though, because unlike Tim Cook, he called it “the thinnest iPhone ever,” NOT “the world’s thinnest smartphone,” as Tim Cook erroneously claimed onstage.

  • Tj

    RAZR had a hump.

  • SeanBello

    absolutely pathetic on their part.

  • Bewara2009

    Apple = Fail….

  • Paul

    They needed something to impress the hoards. Motorola could sue, but apple fans won’t pay attention and just assume apple was telling the truth.

  • warren602

    Didn’t some judge in Eurpoe say the phones have to be measured at their thickest point? Maybe that’s the measurement Apple used? (just thinking out loud)

    • it could be… now if kellex could measure the thickness of the device on the thickets part, it would be something

    • Stew

      Exactly. It was actually Moto I believe that tried to sue Apple over that.

  • William Ku


  • Yeah, but does it have LTE, at least a 4″ screen, 802.11n, and a battery?

  • j__h

    The fact they are pushing thinness is something I do not like… I wish they put a bigger battery in and help push the rest of the (android) market on battery life.

    I also think that one could make an argument that the RAZR has a bump (how thick is it there?) so comparing the two becomes less straight forward.

    • Spongehead

      Thinness is a huge selling point when your market wears skinny jeans.

  • gbenj

    Is the razr that thin at its thinnest point or including the camera part at the top? What is the razr at its thickest point?

  • will bartlett

    technically apple is right though. that hump is ugly

  • Matthew Hoke

    It is because Apple invented the term smartphone and just haven’t gotten around to that particular lawsuit yet.

  • Hunter

    Apple sometimes seems to live in their own little world… in this case a world where they have created the thinnest smartphone as well as the panorama feature for the camera, just to name a few.

  • I have a Razr MAXX – and like it, but I always thought Motorola was fudging a little bit on the thickness of this thing (and the vanilla Razr) since the bulge by the camera area was ~9mm. I know the rest is super-thin, but I’m not sure I’d really count the whole thing as a 7.1mm thick phone.

    • On my Droid Razr (not Maxx) at the hump its about half of an iPhone 4s and at the thinnest part (the other end of the phone) you can fit about 3 Razr’s in the same area. It may seem bigger on day to day use but thats just because you have become so familiar with it being so thin that it doesn’t feel as thin anymore.

      • beachguy757

        you must live in another universe where you make your own dimensions up

  • Who owns the patient on “Thin” ?

  • J Nano

    Waiting for the suing wars to begin! *grabs popcorn” cough…. hurry up samsung!

  • David Hussey

    Really? The width at the hump is 11.1mm, so maybe you can call the RAZR “mostly” the thinnest smartphone, but I have to give this one to Apple.

    • ApexPred

      Oppo Finder: 6.65mm
      Huawei Ascend P1s: 6.7mm
      Motorola Razr: 7.1mm
      ZTE Athena: 6.2mm

      …and the jury finds Apple GUILTY of failing yet again!

      • The jury SHOULD find Apple guilty of a lot of things (False Advertising, Patent Infringement, etc.) but as long as the messed up court systems allow the trial to take place less than 10 MILES from Apple HQ, in the city where Apple pays about half of their tax revenue, no one will ever have a fair trial against Apple.

        • ApexPred


        • The trial took place in San Jose which wasn’t the city Apple pays half of their tax revenue to, that’s Cupertino.

      • Hunter

        the RAZR has been invalidated by the jury of our peers. Thanks to it’s hump.

        • ampskillz

          as for that list…only the oppo finder has been released yet so all these fanboi idiots might as well be arguing that the SG4 is the thinnest smartphone ever. These cheap garbage china phones running android are just gimmicks with thinness being their only distinguishing feature.

      • beachguy757

        none of these phones has all of its parts inside the thinnest point so keep looking

    • The iPhone is the thinnest smart phone because it’s the same thickness all the way around. The hump on the RAZR is what knocks it out of the running.

      • Wow! I’m amazed nobody said that in the 3 hours that preceded your post.

    • dmagicp

      David you and apple can have that one. woopty do. the iphone 5 is the thinnest phone. lol.

  • I would guess they say the trademark MotoHump disqualifies the 7.1mm claim

  • DroidzFX

    If you build it they will come..If you say it they will believe.

  • Well…MOST of it is 7.1 mm. Maybe they’re going by average thickness?

  • tanknspank



  • Just curious, is that
    7.1mm at the thinnest point, or the camera hump included?