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Is It Ice Cream Sandwich Update Time for the RAZR and RAZR MAXX? Motorola Sends Out Invites For Testers (Updated)

Motorola told us Q2 for Ice Cream Sandwich updates to the DROID RAZR and RAZR MAXX and it looks like they are doing everything in their power to hit that deadline. Soak test invites for members of their feedback network are going out this minute, talking about a “new software release.” They do not specifically say Android 4.0, but after seeing a new leak come out this week as build 6.16.211, what else could it be?

Update:  We received a tip suggesting that the soak test will start June 22 and the full rollout to the public will happen on June 27.

Stay tuned…

Cheers R, M, J, J, and C!

  • ICS Angry

    I downloaded to ICS update and it complete jacked-up my RAZR. The phone WAS the best I have ever owned prior to the software update and now I have had nothing but problems. Verizon finally gave up and just sent me a new phone.

  • TheParadoxdub1

    I have the razr, but is has bed esn, I use it as an android ipod touch, will I get the update without rooting it?

  • iamme

    i don’t care i already have it

  • soon you will have ICS and have it on a superior phone than the samsuck nexus

  • CNET just posted an update- We ALL received ICS 2 months ago.
    So, now you can stop worrying.

  • Jonathan

    This another load of crap your feeding us again. Sources are starting to sound like someone heard someone say that someone read an email that almost sounded like…

    • Lord_Vader1941

      This time it’s not, as you say “another load of crap”. If you fell for an article with it’s source as CNET than that’s on you, sir.

  • missmarie

    how do you get to be a soak tester?

    • Sign up at motorola feedback network

      • How do you do that? I have tried to find it, but I can never find a place to sign up.

        • Create an account, right on the landing page thier should be a link

          • durga prasad

            thanks do that

  • LiterofCola

    Oh how sweet it is…..

  • Very promising. After dealing .905 for the bionic I am exciting waiting the arrival of my Droid Razr Maxx :). With any luck I will have more than 50% power by 11 AM (day starts at 6 AM)

  • jakeo113

    Where can I fill out the survey to get ics?

    • Dain Laguna

      not by asking for it here. you had to sign up with the motorola feedback network. and you’ll be notified if you are chosen. even longtime forum members are taken out of the running simply by posting threads about wanting to ‘sign up’ or be included in the soak test

    • if you were part of the feedback network you get an email asking you to join…everyone else has to wait till the official release

  • Former GNex Owner

    This is good timing. I have a certified like-new MAXX being delivered tomorrow to replace my 3rd GNex. Even with a GNex with “good” radios and 4.0.4, I couldn’t hold 4G (and sometimes even 3G) where my wife’s MAXX had great 4G. I’ll miss the screen and lack of bloat, but looking forward to not charging my phone 2-3 times a day and having 4G speeds everywhere that I should.

    • InyRules

      Same boat as you, except I’ll be looking forward to making a call without the other person sounding like they are cutting in and out. Last night I swear my Nexus was possessed by a demonic robot. Had to hang up and retry my call.

      • Lucky Armpit

        I’m already enjoying being able to make a phone call and not have the one-way audio issue. The Maxx, so far, seems to be worth it over the Nexus. I’m pretty happy and I think I’m going to keep it. I’ll miss the lack of bloat but making a phone call is more important to me.

        • InyRules

          I’ll really miss my Nexus, but I can’t have the audio sound like I’m constantly losing signal all the time. I don’t think I’ll mind Motoblur too much on ICS – it looks like they kept it pretty light, and are letting the beauty of ICS shine through 🙂

    • Former GNex Owner

      My replacement came and I am really liking it so far. As expected, after having the GNex since December, it’s taking some time to get used to the screen being more pixelated and using Gingerbread again. (I keep swiping down the notification bar to go into Settings and then realize I have to use the Settings button)
      But everything else is great. There are some things in blur that make Android better and I think the ICS build will be even better. For example, why doesn’t the GNex send track info when streaming over bluetooth? Seriously, my kids free smartphones do that and now I have it back with the MAXX.
      The phone is as fast as the GNex (but way faster on data) and ICS should make it even more so.

  • chris125

    Bet you it doesn’t spammer….

  • Bionic

    where do i go if i want to be a soak tester for bionic when the time comes?

    • Heartless12

      word i wanna know to

      • https://forums.motorola.com/posts/77d4221775
        that’s the thread to sign up for the Motorola Feedback Network.
        It seems to be a random draw the first go-round, and if you give good feedback you continue to be invited.
        And yes, even if you root/ROM, you can participate as long as you can get back to a stock bloated OTA build. That means resisting the urge to install leaks usually 😉

        • Nemesis099

          Thanks just updated so I could be involved in future updates!!

          • Lord_Vader1941

            Make sure you remember your account info, they ask for your display name, email, etc…. If you get it wrong on the invite they wont permit you to be part of the soak

      • motoman

        motorola feedback forums

      • Bionic

        found it. You have to sign up for motorola feedback network and register your phone. When you do so there is an option saying “do you want to participate in motorola feedback network?” click yes and that should enable you as a soak tester.

        • Dain Laguna

          it doesnt necessarily mean you’ll be one. heck you can even get an email invite to be part of the soak test and STILL not get to test it

          • Bionic

            That would suck

        • Heartless12

          Thanks for the info I appreciate it

  • maxx1987

    yes! picked up my maxx a week ago, good timing!

  • joek618

    When I click “Click this link” on the email it takes me to SurveyMonkey’s page, but I’m not presented with a survey from Motorola. Anyone having the same problem, or know what I’m doing wrong?

    • Tay

      I thinks its happening for everyone who was invited.

      • anonymous

        It didn’t happen to me….maybe the window closed to sign up….maybe they had to many people….sorry :/

      • It worked for me, though a different finish screen showed up than usual, so I’m not sure if it went through properly or not. Guess we’ll see 😀

    • Droidzilla

      No problem on this end. It only went to the SurveyMonkey site after I had completed the survey. I’d give it a little while and try it again.

  • Alexander Garcia

    It’s 4.0.4 guys. Enjoy =)

  • powellk00

    How do I sign up to get invited for the soak test?

    • motoman

      too late

  • Can people stop buying this phone so they can release the HD version of it already

    • Dain Laguna

      is that even a reasonable thing to request?

      • Heartless12

        Exactly that dude is on some other sh1t

  • And the Rezound?……………

  • mcdonsco

    crap…I got the invite…but I have 210 on the phone…shit

    • I got burned on my Bionic because of loading leaks. never again on a locked bootloader, its just not worth it.

      • Diablo81588

        What happened?

    • Jackson

      Yea i had. 211 lol and stupidly got to excited and tried to downgrade soft vricked it went home re flashed. 211 again lol

  • Bout damn time!!! Lol i bet RAZR HD is announced on the 28th.

  • HuskerHog

    From what I’ve read it will be 4.04.

    • This is expected. We just don’t know which build of the 7 that have been found.

  • Me

    FYI the update will include global capability

    • mcdonsco

      Ya, but it removes your ability to select 3g only…now, its global, lte/cdma or gsm/umts

      • Unixman

        On the dialer enter *#*#4636#*#* and you will enter the testing menu. Select Phone info, then scroll down to global or lte/cdma, select and choose CDMA auto (PRL). You are now 3G only, using the Preferred Roaming List.

  • nightscout13

    Makes me glad i didn’t buy the MAXX, they were promising ICS since the day they released the RAZR.

    • Knlegend1


    • uAnd you sir missed out on one of the best phones to hit Verizon in a very very long time. For the performance I am able to get out of the phone, GB was more than fine to hold me over till ICS. Fall back on the old locked bootload argument and I will point you towards my droid x running custom roms all day from its locked bootloader.

      Your lose, our gain.

      • nightscout13

        I opted for the GNex. And now i just used my upgrade to pre-order GS3. I don’t think i missed out.

        • So you bought a phone and a few months later, bought another phone.

          You’re right, you really made out on that deal.

          • nightscout13

            I didn’t wanna waste my upgrade on Gnex, so i bought it used on craigslist, and now i can happily wait for SGS3. I wanted the RAZR MAXX, but no NFC and no ICS was a deal breaker for me.

          • See that argument makes more sense, in regards to the NFC but ICS 4.0.4. was promised on the beloved Gnex from day one also but it wasnt until what a month ago that you guys got it? Should have bought a Maxx on craigslist and had the better hardware and used the upgrade still for your GSIII. I will be happily using my Maxx for the next year or two orwhenever I decide to use my upgrade.

          • nightscout13

            I have not seen a difference from 4.0.2 to 4.0.4 in fact, i get worse 4G coverage where i used to have good coverage.

          • nightscout13

            If you have grandfathered unlimited data, don’t forget Verizon won’t let you keep it if you try to upgrade after June 28th. Realistically, that’s the only reason i’m upgrading, otherwise i was gonna wait to see what RAZR HD would be like.

          • Hope that you enjoy your SGS3! I was looking at it myself, but after the disaster that has been my experience with Samsung on VZW, I opted to put them to the side for a while.

          • nightscout13

            Waiting for RAZR HD? I personally think MOTO phones are more durable, and have more stable ROM’s, but this is my last chance to use my upgrade with grandfathered DATA, so i had to pre-order SGS3. If i don’t like it, i can always post on ebay for $600 since its still new LOL

  • Jackson

    Did you guys have to go to .181 or were you already on it lol
    I got the invite as well but I’m mid downgrading to .181 lol

  • Heartless12

    Ugh i cant Freaking wait lol

  • evltwn

    ugh….where’s my invite??? I have been a part of the last couple of soak updates and also was a part of all soaks for the DX.

    • Dain Laguna

      how long after your soak test invite on your DX did the actual download start?

      • evltwn

        Usually a day later or so.

        • Dain Laguna

          sweeeeeet 🙂

    • Still looking for mine, too. Bummer – I’ve been in all of them so far.

      • Never mind – Got mine too. and the corrected link.

    • evltwn

      okay, I got the invite and the link takes me to SurveyMonkey….is this right?
      never mind, just got a new email with the correct link. All is good. 🙂

  • Asuriyan

    Knowing how Motorola times things, there is almost no chance this will be .211 and a good chance it will be .85 or .206. Usually takes them 3 weeks from build date to get things ready for a soak.

    I could, of course, be wrong. In that case I will happily eat crow.

  • Me

    Soak will start 6/22

    General release when users can pull the upgrade is 6/27

    • Adam

      Wish I would have known that….wouldn’t have gone through the process of going back to .181 for a few days…

  • anonymous

    about time moto

    • anonymous

      or should I say verizon

  • mikel61101

    How many people filled out the survey then went to system updates and checked to see if it magically was all ready there? 😀

    • anonymous

      Lol I did this is my first time soaking so I was freaking out cause this our the first update since I signed up….in other words I wasn’t expecting it….I thought they did it by seniority

      • chris125

        I think they try to get it to the most people possible in the most possible locations to test things out.

        • Max

          Where did you sign up to be a soak tester?

    • john

      I figured i would wait at least an hour before i checked 😉

  • InyRules

    Just pulled the trigger and asked Verizon to send me a RAZR MAXX to replace my Nexus. I shall be enjoying this update with you all very soon 🙂

    • How do you just ask them to replace it?

      • Lord_Vader1941

        If you complain hard enough VZW will do what you ask them.

        • Guest

          They wouldn’t send me a Nexus after being on my 4th RAZR replacement due to headphone port issues. They said they wouldn’t trade a Razr for a Nexus because the Nexus costs more?…

          • InyRules

            When I was having it out with them somewhere around my 3rd Nexus, they offered to send me a “comparable” phone, and said it was the MAXX. According to them, it’s a fair trade. I’d call them back and ask how many phones you have to go through before they send you one that works. Then say something about finding a way out of your contract. Then ask about a trade to another phone. Should help you out.

          • Lord_Vader1941

            Yeah, usually if you say you want out of the contract or indicate the phone is a complete crap shoot they are accomidating. This has happened to me a few times, once with the D1 and with the Droid global. I was just having issues with them. they traded me up with no problem after about the 3rd phone.

          • I just called and complained about the data drop on my bionic and they said they would send me a comparable trade since it was my 3rd bionic and are sending me the RAZR – i’m fine with it till the HD comes out anyways…

          • Had a problem with my headphone jack as well.. You should use a can of compressed air to try and clean it out.. Turns out I had clumps of lint inside it from my pockets.. Works perfectly now after cleaning it out.. If the air doesn’t work I’d recommend straightening a pen spring and going in carefully. Good luck.. And Come on ICS! 🙂

      • Dain Laguna

        hey may have just shelled out the dough. some people can do that.

        • michael arazan

          I had minor bugs in my gnex before the .4 update came, and the rep lady was more than happy to replace my gnex for a razr maxx for free. But the .4 update is really nice and makes the os really smooth now, and soon the moto’s will see. I just hope after they update the razr phones, all the other moto phones will be updated really fast or possibly at the same time

      • InyRules

        Verizon offered one to me instead of sending me another Nexus since I’ve gone through 4 of them already. The call quality reached a peak of failure yesterday, so I called and told them to send the MAXX they offered.

    • Lucky Armpit

      I also have a Razr Maxx to replace my ailing Galaxy Nexus. Verizon performed the exchange for me, no questions asked. Can’t wait for ICS!

    • daware

      Oh yeah! I just did too. Except, I had to pay the $100 difference in price (Nexus is $200 and MAXX is $300 according to Verizon). Did any of you have to pay or just me?

      • InyRules

        Unless they’re sending you a brand-spankin’ new phone, I think you got screwed. They’re sending me a “certified like-new” device, and I didn’t have to pay anything. And the MAXX is around $99 on contract now I think. I’d definitely call them back if I were you.

        • Dawdroid

          I looked at their website while on the phone with them and the MAXX shows at $299, and the Nexus at $149 ($200 with $50 mail in rebate). I guess I didn’t think anything of it. The guy said equal trades would have been the regular RAZR, Rezound, or Droid 4.

          • InyRules

            Um, yeah I think someone lied to you. Two reps offered me the MAXX in place of the Nexus. I just got it today. The pixels…

          • Dawdroid

            On the phone or in store? I may have to call again.

  • Clay

    Just so i’m clear, voodoo root keeper will work if we upgrade to ics right?

    • xanaxdroid

      If not there’s already a way to root the update if it’s 211.

  • shehippie

    *does the fat girl happy dance* This is awesome news!!!!!

  • Adam

    What happens after I do the survey? How long do I wait now?

  • gregc63

    Just got an invite about 40 minutes ago!

  • motoman

    yes i got my email

  • razrp87

    It asked to go back to stock for the soak test even if im rooted….that sux

  • Mikeg

    Invite received and accepted…now the wait begins 🙂

  • ju1c3

    just got my invite

  • Craig

    How do i become a part of this soak test?

    • Dain Laguna

      you would have to be a member of motorolas feedback network. you sign up online. i think its too late to sign up if the invites are going out however.

      • funnystuff

        Not too late for jelly bean! 😉

  • Dain Laguna

    all i know is that i’m excited. we all scream for ice cream.

  • Guest

    Blue Balls here Motorola… I’ve been screaming for Ice Cream for far too long

    • nightscout13

      Waiting for this update is becoming like waiting for Sex from a wife.

      • Lord_Vader1941

        No mean yes and yes means anal…..

        • chuck

          like this comment. would like it even more if it were true.

      • Droidzilla

        I’d hate to be in your marriage. If that analogy was applicable to mine, my phone would be unusable due to updating practically daily. xD

        • nightscout13

          This is why we love Andriod, the ability to MODIFY if we want to.

          • thatdroidguy

            Android is a way of life, with the ability to modify, is why we love it!

  • Mark


  • Craig

    I’m guessing it’s 4.0. I already accepted the invite. We’ll see what happens.

    • Jack

      How do i get a accepted the invite? Thanks

  • David Carano

    How do you guys always mange to have the story 30 seconds after something happens and 30 seconds before i can send you the tip??

    • Jason Purp

      Obviously they found out about it as soon as you did

      • Diablo81588


        • 4n1m4L

          I’m kind of baffled too. They seem.to have an article posted before nvidia announces things if you follow both on twitter

          • Nvidia finds out what they are doing by watching the Droid-Life twitter feed.

          • nightscout13

            Twitter is not an official NVIDIA release thread. NVIDIA.com is.

    • Because they actually run the major carriers, and the all the baffling moves by Verizon et al. are really just efforts to drive hits and comments to D-L for advertising dollars.

  • Diablo81588

    Just bought a maxx for the girl. Timing couldn’t have been more perfect 🙂

  • Good luck folks.

  • Adam

    My Maxx is patiently waiting. Do you think it will eventually get Jelly Bean or not?

    • Sp4rxx

      doubtful – at least from a carrier/brandname perspective –
      most likely from a dev perspective for skinning and ROMing

      • Since the GNex has near-identical specs and is virtually guaranteed JB, I’m guessing the Razr/D4/Bionic have a good shot at it too.

        • Dain Laguna

          i’m inclined to agree about JB on the razr…but if the JB upgrade for the gnex is anything like the ICS update for the nexus s was….gnex owners are still going to have to wait quite some time after JB is released before they actually receive a working version of it. the initial version released was so buggy google pulled it.

    • If history is true for AAA flagships It’ll get the next android version in the following Q3 or Q4 rather than Q2 like this one, and that’ll be it’s last update.

      • Sp4rxx

        …and if we are reading the same history book, especially in Moto’s case, by the time JB is even a possibility, the next gen of Android will be out by letter K or L and this phone will be obsolete ….

        Don’t get me wrong – I am very excited to be this close to receiving this update; but when a phone is released very soon after with actual ICS and other manufacturers upgrade well before Moto, you have to admit JB is a really far cry right now.

        • DoctorOta

          Who’s upgraded their devices to ICS prior to moto? For all the flack everyone gives Motorola my DROID x received plenty of updates. If the RAZR is like the X it will see JB just like the X received GB. If everyone remembers the x was released with eclair as froyo was announced, was updated to froyo the GB later on. So it’s a solid chance that the RAZR will be updated to JB.

          • Dain Laguna

            i 2nd this. gingerbread was a refining of froyo, and i expect jellybean to be much the same.

            now i’ll just have to figure if it will be worth having a stock JB device when the next nexus come out or enjoy it on the razr…

          • DoctorOta

            When it comes time for that I believe the more pressing issue would be a nexus straight from Google so as to keep your unlimited data without paying $600 but rather $400 hopefully.

          • Dain Laguna

            true, but i’ll more than likely have 199-299 rather than upwards of 400 bucks to mess around with 😉 besides, the chances (imo) of cdma devices being sold on google play are slim to none 🙁

          • DoctorOta

            It may be slightly more likely than you think though for the sole fact that LTE uses sim cards so it may make it a little easier, and i doubt google nor the OEM’s would want to miss out on the massive verizon and sprint market shares. As far as JB and upgrading there is plenty of time to either save or watch how this all will play out.

          • Diablo81588

            A real life, competent person on DL?! Impossible!

          • Sp4rxx

            RAZR won’t last long enough market-ably upgrade to JB. Look at the OG Droid – Eclair then Froyo and no GB. The timeframe of releases puts RAZR out when it will come to JB officially.

            Unofficially, using the above example and using custom ROMs and whatever else, the OG Droid did indeed see some form of GB and was proven to run it fine. I’m sure the RAZR can in fact run JB fine regardless of how they upgrade from ICS, but it will be in the form of a custom ROM and not an official build.

            Just like DROIDX2 owners and others who can support ICS, Google/Moto will cut off at a certain point for JB and RAZR may be that cutoff.

            I don’t like it any more than anyone else, but it’s reality – it’s gonna happen.

          • DoctorOta

            The thing that is a key theme in both your’s and my argument is that the major flagship Motorola phones received 2 keys updates a piece. The OG droid with eclair and froyo, next the X receiving froyo then GB. The x2 was a place holder phone, comparable to the droid eris, with the Razr line being the next flagship, thus by Motorola’s tendencies it should receive 2 major updates, being ICS and JB. Another reason to believe it should receive JB is for the fact that the RAZR form factor spreads across the RAZR, the RAZR Maxx, partially into the Droid 4 and most likely somewhat inthe the RAZR HD. So by varying code enough to cover 4 phones with a major update it would be more logical for them to actually update to JB when the time comes, especially given their prior themes in the update process.

          • The reason that the OG Droid didn’t receive GB is due to hardware requirements jumping significantly. That said, hardware makers also made sure that they are putting the best available hardware in their handsets to ensure they’ll be upgradeable. I see no reason to expect the Razr/Bionic/D4 not get Jelly Bean after ICS. Key Lime Pie, now that’s debatable.
            As for the DX2 and D3, they literally can’t run ICS, as the OMAP drivers either don’t exist, or have hard-coded memory addresses that assume 1GB RAM capacity. Since Motorola doesn’t have the expertise to write the SoC drivers from scratch, they either have to hope TI writes them, or optimize their GB builds as best they can, and it looks like the latter choice.

    • Diablo81588

      It depends on the RAM requirements. Apparently its supposed to be an incremental upgrade from ICS, so it’s definately possible.

    • Droidzilla

      We can conjecture all we like based on Motorola’s history, but the fact of the matter is they’re now a Google subsidiary. Jelly Bean will be the chance to see if Google turns Motorola’s direction around or if they’re really taking a hands-off approach. I’d say we’ll know by mid-2013 if the Google factor is an influence in Motorola’s smartphone outlook and handling.

  • Fardous23

    Wont believe it till i see it on my phone…

    • excited rzr owner

      No worries its true I just got my invite like 2 min ago