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Verizon Officially Clarifies the End of Unlimited Data One More Time – Echoes Our Thoughts From Earlier

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Verizon, in an attempt to officially clarify all things unlimited data vs. shared data tiers, has published another note and sent an email to the NY Times that should set the record straight. Let’s just say that this note from Big Red is exactly what we already told you in our clarification post from earlier in the day. This was nice of them to settle it once and for all though. Well, for the most part. 

As we have stated publicly, Verizon Wireless has been evaluating its pricing structure for some time.  Customers have told us that they want to share data, similar to how they share minutes today.  We are working on plans to provide customers with that option and will introduce new plans later this year.

When the new options are introduced, Unlimited Data will no longer be available to our customers purchasing handsets and signing a new contract. Customers who choose to purchase phones at full retail price and are currently on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan. The same pricing and policies will apply to all 3G and 4GLTE smartphones.

We will share specific details of the plans well in advance of their introduction so customers will have time to evaluate the plans and make the best decisions for their wireless service.  It is our goal and commitment to continue to provide customers with the same high value service they have come to expect from Verizon Wireless.

The email in bullets:

  • Customers will not be automatically moved to new shared data plans. If a 3G or 4G smartphone customer is on an unlimited plan now and they do not want to change their plan, they will not have to do so.
  • When we introduce our new shared data plans, Unlimited Data will no longer be available to customers when purchasing handsets at discounted pricing.
  • Customers who purchase phones at full retail price and are on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan.
  • The same pricing and policies will be applied to all 3G and 4GLTE smartphones.

So just as we said earlier – this doesn’t affect you if you are on a contract as of today or up until they launch shared data tiers. If you renew after shared plans go live though, and take on a discounted or subsidized phone, you will have to choose a shared data tier and come off of unlimited. If you want to continue on month-to-month after your contract is done with your same old phone and/or upgrade at full retail to a new one, you get to keep your current unlimited plan. Verizon can’t void your current contract and push you into a tier, again, as we said earlier.

The only thing this doesn’t explain is how this will work when you have multiple lines and one of those lines takes on a new contract with a subsidized phone. Does that affect everyone on that account or not?

There you have it, again.

Via:  Verizon | NY Times

Cheers zepfloyd and James!

  • RoadsterHD1

    ok, what if next year i get a quad-core super phone and i give my Bionic to my wife who is now sporting a D2 3G phone. I walk into Verizon and ask for my number to be switched to my new phone and her D2 to be switched to her Bionic which now means she will have 4G. Does this change her plan and or does it affect both? Right now we both have grandfathered in unlimited plans.

    • http://twitter.com/pcola_boy pcola_boy

      I’m in a similar situation. I think you’ll be able to keep your unlimited data in this scenario since you didn’t upgrade at the subsidized price.

  • WillBuss

    Verizon will begin to fall from this mistake, why would you want a smartphone if you can’t have unlimited data. I use 2 gigs in about 4 or 5 days. they will miss my 330.00 every month.

    • justin82

      no they wont

  • enigmaco

    I’m on 3G as well and my upgrade doesn’t come until november. I was going to buy a 4G phone but now I am afraid for fear of losing my unlimited data.

    • GrailsEdge

      You’re gonna have to buy a 4g phone now or before Verizon implements this plan. That way you can keep unlimited on LTE. If you wait for you’re upgrade you will lose it…………sorry.

  • http://twitter.com/mike_rhodes Michael Rhodes

    So i am due for an upgrade and currently have unlimited, should i upgrade and get on the 4g unlimited while i still can or am i too late :(

    • RoadsterHD1

      You are probably to late to get grandfathered in because that ship sailed a long time ago. If you go 4G now you will have to get a tier plan. If I am wrong someone please correct me, I do not want to steer anyone wrong.

      • http://twitter.com/mike_rhodes Michael Rhodes
        • RoadsterHD1

          LOL, I know, it sucks.

      • Jon M

        FWIW, I’m in the same boat. I went to a Verizon store yesterday, and asked the same question. An employee said I could keep grandfathered data while upgrading to 4g… She was ready to sell me a phone, but I want to wait until Dinc 4g or the SGIII drops….

        • RoadsterHD1

          Good to know, thanks man..good news then for Michael Rhodes

      • http://twitter.com/mike_rhodes Michael Rhodes

        you were wrong, thank god :) i ended up going in the next day and upgrading to the nex and even with the data hiccups with 4g i am still extremely happy with the phone

    • GrailsEdge

      Yes…if you have 3g unlimited right now…you can upgrade to a 4g phone and have unlimited. After this summer tho….nope. So do it before then.

    • RyDub42

      As long as you have unlimited 3G data, you should get unlimited 4G. Unlimited is unlimited. Now, if you wait until after they do this whole shared data thing, you may be out of luck.

  • Scott

    What if pay full-retail price for the phone outside of Verizon? Do I get to keep my unlimited then?

    • Anthony White

      Yes. You can pay full retail price outside for a phone and just activate it online, in the store, over the phone and you will not loose you’re unlimited data.

  • Jeff “BIG RED”

    WHO WANTS TO PAY FULL RETAIL FOR A PHONE? ALMOST WORTH KEEPING UNLIMITED DATA TO DO SO….

  • Jeff “BIG RED”

    This is a great way to kick me in the sack!!!! Seriously? I have enjoyed like hell my $9.99 Promo I have on 3 of my lines for unlimited data! What a great way to piss of customers enough to give the finger to VZW and go elsewhere…..

  • RoadsterHD1

    The only thing this doesn’t explain is how this will work when you have multiple lines and one of those lines takes on a new contract with a subsidized phone. Does that affect everyone on that account or not? ?? This is a good question. Does anyone know the answer?

    • Jess B

      I want to know this as well – my husband has an upgrade coming up this summer.

      • RoadsterHD1

        An answer on the community was that it will not affect other lines on the same family plan as all the lines are a separate contract from one another. The only one it affects is the one making the change.

  • LionStone

    Wuut? Earlier you said, “From what we assume, Verizon is moving from a singular model of per line or per customer data plans to a shared or account structure, so while we don’t know the exact details of those plans, it sounds as if the only available plans in the future will be shared data. Whether you are by yourself or not, it will all just be one pool of data to pull from on your account. (That last part is me speculating of course.)”

    Is not “exactly” what VZ said recently, “Customers who choose to purchase phones at full retail price and are currently on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan.”

  • isac417

    what if i have a 3g unlimited plan and i buy a 4g phone at full price am i houng to be able to use lte at unlimited data?

    • GrailsEdge

      If you do it before they implement this plan…then yes…..If later….then most likely not.

  • GotSka81

    To answer your question about family plans, Kellex, I can almost certainly say that one user on a family plan going this route will not affect the others. When a family plan exists, all the phones on the plan have their own separate contracts with Verizon. This contract can move to it’s own plan, or to another plan, if necessary…and no fees are applied. In other words, each line is treated as an individual contract, and will be dealt with accordingly. That is, unless Verizon pulls the usual crap and decides to screw everyone.

  • Jason Purp

    I’ll have unlimited data forever >:D

  • http://twitter.com/theberkin8or James Berkeley

    I am happy with how this played out. I have already been buying phones at the end of their product cycle off of ebay which doesn’t end up being much more expensive than buying from Verizon and I don’t have to deal with the growing pains of cutting edge phones. So now I still get to keep my unlimited data seems like a win-win.

    • Charlie

      I completely agree. I’m totally fine with this.

    • Havoc70

      yep works for me too, buy from elsewhere keep my unlimited

      • hkklife

        Once again, when this happens, I expect demand to go up and supply to go down (and prices to skyrocket) when everyone else starts getting the same idea to get their “new” phones on E-Bay, CL, Swappa etc.

  • http://twitter.com/wungfu Mikey

    I could see this having a pretty big impact on OEM’s. If people aren’t jumping in on getting new phones and contracts then their profits will surely take a hit, don’t ya think? The only way out is to buy a phone from Google. So let’s say that the new Nexus is $299 on Verizon, and Google is selling it for $399. You would have to remember that Verizon is charging $30 for every upgrade now, plus you have to pay tax on the full price of the phone, unless you buy it at Costco. That Google price is looking more and more competitive, if that is the actual price point.

  • Alan Burnstine

    If they would just say what the effing price for shared data plans will be, all this drama and worry would be over. Those who see value in the new plans won’t worry, those who see more value in unlimited can either pay retail for their phones or switch to sprint while they still offer unlimited data. If they weren’t ready to talk price, they should have kept their mouths shut. Their inability to simply make a clear and concise announcement about data pricing has caused more stress and drama over the past dozen years than anything I have seen from any other company.

    • REDCLOVER

      The reason that everyone is worrying is because the same guy that leaked this info (Verizon CFO i believe) also stated that these shared plans would be a HUGE profit making venture for Verizon! Thus causing worry over how much these plans will cost!

  • http://twitter.com/DannyAree DannyAree ? ツ

    So i have a 3g phone right now. If i upgrade right now to a 4g phone will i be able to keep my unlimited even after this?

    • http://www.facebook.com/bigdawg2199 Steven Barrett

      As long as you do it before this. or when you upgrade after you will have too party full price.

    • droidinmind

      I believe the answer is yes!!!

    • evileclipse

      yes, as long as you do it before they implement the new plans.

  • byebyeverizon

    Every month i will try to break my record of data usage. my goal will be 50GBs in a month before i leave.

    • Anthony White

      You haven’t done that yet? I do it all the time. I got over 52GBs one month.

      • FortitudineVincimus

        data hog

      • Geoff Johnson

        You are the reason Verizon is doing this.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=323400033 Dominik Waldo Rozek

          Sorry I am the reason Verizon is doing this:
          http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/drozek/datahog.jpg

          687.305GB of Unlimited

          • InyRules

            …how?

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=323400033 Dominik Waldo Rozek

            You download a lot of stuff

          • Guest

            …how?

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=323400033 Dominik Waldo Rozek

            You download a lot of stuff

          • Kyle Fullmer

            If I knew where you lived I would beat you with a golf club.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=323400033 Dominik Waldo Rozek

            u mad?

        • unaffected

          It’s his data, he can use it how he wants.

    • RoadsterHD1

      I’m at 25.55MB LOL and still going. I used 35Gigs last month. It’s Netflix, If i loose unlimited data i’ll have to cancel Netflix too.

    • Los

      dude i did 65 on 3g

  • Devilsephiroth

    like I’m buying at full retail price now, maybe from Google

  • Colonel_Awesomesauce

    my SO is about to upgrade, in a few weeks, so hopefully we can sneak in her upgrade before this changes. But it seems like from now on we’ll be buying our phones at full price

  • possomcrast

    Good for Kellex since he always buys fully priced phones.

  • Destroythanet

    I fine with this policy. I’d rather keep unlimited data and pay full price for phones.

  • Ron Perlman’s Jaw

    Of course this won’t affect corporate accounts with a bunch of lines.

  • OhAaron

    Yes! If Verizon keeps to this statement, then I won’t be leaving.

  • beez1717

    This is still Verizon trying to force people to go onto onto tiered data plans. Not many people can afford to buy a phone at full price, so most people will end up being either stuck with their phones for a very long time or they will be forced to pay up the nose for their data, and not get what they need.

  • skzion

    Well, that settles it. Glad I got a Razr recently, but I’ll definitely be moving from Verizon when I find I need a new phone.

  • http://twitter.com/thegeeked The Geeked

    craigslist, ebay, swappa phone values are going to skyrocket this summer.

    • scott braunworth

      I was just thinking the same thing.. I have two LTE phones now, I might buy a 3rd just incase!

  • AlexKCMO

    For those who don’t know who wants shared data over unlimited data
    People who currently DO NOT have unlimited data would
    probably like to share data. They care about these people. These
    people are the ones they have to worry about leaving to another
    network.

    They could probably care less about those of us who already have
    unlimited data. We’re already “locked” into unlimited data, and now
    they’ll be reaping pure profit from us since in order
    to keep our unlimited data, we will no longer be taking advantage of
    subsidized pricing. They’ll begin reaping profits immediately as
    opposed to once we finally pay off our subsidies through the plans.

    It’s a business decision, and a good one for them. It sucks for us.

    Well played Verizon; well played.

    • kronikings

      How is this a good business decision for Verizon considering I just won’t buy a phone from Verizon? You can always find a good deal on a phone a month or two after it comes out. I will keep my unlimited data and I’ll find a good deal on a phone. no big deal.

      • AlexKCMO

        Verizon doesn’t make any money off subsidizing phones. That’s why they lost money their first year having subsidized iPhones. You buying a phone at full retail means pure profits from your monthly payments.

        • Droosh

          Wrong. True that they don’t make any money off of iPhones as they give iOS customers much bigger subsidies than Android customers. I guarantee you that the prices that they charged us on release day for the G-Nex, Bionic, X, Razr, etc. are significantly higher than what they bought them for from the OEMs.

          • AlexKCMO

            http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401394,00.asp

            Wrong. Second paragraph:
            A carrier subsidy allows the carrier to offset
            some of the cost of the phone by offering it for an up-front discount.
            The customer then makes up the cost of the phone via his or her normal
            monthly payment.

            Now its your turn to link a source.

          • Droosh

            Your quote says it right there. “some” of the cost of the phone. Just common sense. Look at the $399 they charge for some devices out of the box, while they quote “retail” price at $650 for example. Google sells the G-Nex directly for $400 while Verizon says it’s retail price is $650 for the device?!?! There is no way that the cost of the extra RAM and an LTE chip is $250 dollars.

            Also, they sell the subsidized iPhones for the same cost as flagship Android’s despite Apple always having a higher “retail” price for their flagship. This proves that they give a bigger subsidy for iPhones than Android’s even though they charge iPhone users the same price for data plans. This is a market advantage for Apple and as it proves that Verizon makes less profit (if any profit) on the iOS devices.

    • http://twitter.com/pcola_boy pcola_boy

      this is a good point.

  • http://twitter.com/ctash Chris Tashjian

    I think it may be a good idea to jump to a double data promo plan now, before that ends too…

    http://shop.verizonwireless.com/?id=Double%20Data

  • imronburgundy

    What customers told you that they wanted to share data? Ever since this tiered bs has started, customers have been crying “foul”.

    • http://twitter.com/ToysSamurai Toys Samurai

      Families who don’t have unlimited data — if you don’t use up your own 2Gb every month, of course you want to share it with other members in your family account.

    • InyRules

      Shared data is great for family plans that don’t use a lot of data. Instead of paying $30 for each 2GB plan, let’s say they pay $60 (hypothetical price) for 10GB shared data across all lines, and they have 3 lines. They’d already be saving $30.

  • http://iamandroid.co/profile/rocktoonz Rocktoonz

    Ok, maybe I’m missing something because I don’t have an LTE device, but if I purchase an LTE phone, and want to keep my unlimited data, since I’m going to a 4G LTE device does that mean I’m forced onto tiered data?

    • EC8CH

      if you buy a subsidized phone after this goes into effect, yes you will lose unlimited data.

      if you buy a phone a full retail, then no you will keep unlimited data

      • http://iamandroid.co/profile/rocktoonz Rocktoonz

        but is my current unlimited data for my DInc going to work on, say a GNex, to give me unlimited 4GLTE, or do they consider the LTE plans to be separate?

        • EC8CH

          3G… 4G…. no diff as far as contract is concerned

          a data plan is a data plan

          • http://iamandroid.co/profile/rocktoonz Rocktoonz

            Thank you for that clarification. I know other carriers differentiate between 3G plans and 4G plans. Glad Verizon doesn’t (yet). This pleases me :)

          • EC8CH

            No prob…

            I’m from the Internet.

    • Buzzy42

      I know at the time 4G started they were just calling it all a “data plan” but I think that might have started changing. Odds are by the time this takes effect they’ll make them different. I doubt they want (some of) the iPhone users able to get unlimited 4G whenever the iPhone 5 comes out…

      I would think the safest bet would be to switch to a 4G phone ASAP; you probably could do the switch now ok, but once the new shared plans start… I doubt it.

  • Buzzy42

    As much as the Thunderbolt gets mocked (some deservedly, some not at all), it got me grandfathered into unlimited 4G data which makes it worth its weight in gold to me right now. (which was a HUGE part of the reason I bought it, and honestly, none of the other pre-tier 4G phones seemed that much better) I really don’t want to leave Verizon, despite them seeming to keep wanting to push me out, so I can only hope they stick to their word on this one. I actually like the quality of service– yes, it’s expensive, but it works, and my few years on AT&T (where dropped calls were the norm for me) taught me it’s better to pay for good service I can use than have cheap crappy service.

    • http://twitter.com/pcola_boy pcola_boy

      They know their service/network is the best, so that’s why they’re pulling all the BS they’re pulling. SMH.

    • kronikings

      Ditto! Thank you TB

  • epyon0

    Makes you wonder if this will affect full retail pricing at all. Especially other places that would sell phones off contract. & will they start to throttle LTE users?

  • Akuma

    “It is our goal and commitment to continue to provide customers with the same high value service they have come to expect from Verizon Wireless.”

    Then don’t take away services that offer customers value for their money. That is, if you actually believed this.

  • http://twitter.com/spdivr1122 Stephen

    the only thing good about shared data for me is the other 3 people on my plan barely use any data, so i get to use a ton for myself

  • Benjamin Wilson

    The only way I can see slow turnover of scattered contract dates is with the first upgrade, you choose the lowest 2GB shared plan on that line only, then as each line upgrades, you move up the tiers accordingly. The suck factor is the CFO outright claimed this is a money maker, so don’t expect the new tiers to be more competitive.

  • http://twitter.com/spdivr1122 Stephen

    guess i wont be upgrading anymore….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I26T5S34AY4UDT7IJF6HWYS3CE Anthony

    What a dumb move by Verizon. Why wouldn’t they want to do something like Sprint so they attract more people?

    • http://twitter.com/spdivr1122 Stephen

      because they are greedy.

    • Tim242

      Sprint loses money every quarter. Their network is not up to par. Need I say more?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I26T5S34AY4UDT7IJF6HWYS3CE Anthony

        Nay, you do not lol

  • zenobia

    Yeah Verizon just rub it in you greedy corporate bastards!

  • MudRacer

    Im going to take this unlimited data to my grave.

    • EC8CH

      Your grandchildren’s grandchildren will be using your unlimited data!

    • rda990

      This litterally made me laugh out loud =D

    • bkosh84

      That raises a good point… What if you put in your will when you die that your children inherit your unlimited data plan, does Verizon have to acknowledge it? It is a legal binding document afterall… lol.

      • Anthony White

        I’m changing my will ASAP!

      • Ethan T

        Brings new meaning to the term “grandfathered” when you literally pass your unlimited contract down to your grandkids.

        • MudRacer

          Yes it does. Hopefully the unlimited gets passed on to 5G or 6G.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Travis-Erickson/563313398 Travis Erickson

          bazinga

        • landonius

          Ummm actually it just brings the original meaning to the term…

          • Ethan T

            You are correct, sir. It didn’t even occur to me.

          • Ethan T

            You are correct, sir. It didn’t even occur to me.

          • Ethan T

            You are correct, sir. It didn’t even occur to me.

          • Ethan T

            You are correct, sir. It didn’t even occur to me.

          • Ethan T

            You are correct, sir. It didn’t even occur to me.

          • Ethan T

            You are correct, sir. It didn’t even occur to me.

          • Ethan T

            You are correct, sir. It didn’t even occur to me.

      • michael

        All they have to do is keep paying your verizon bill and none is the wiser to whether you have passed on or not. Just make sure they have administration privileges to the account by you giving them the passcode. Verizon doesn’t check to see if you are alive or not, just so long as they get their money.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=23930729 J Quinn Adams

        I used to work at a Verizon Wireless store and this came up once when I
        had a customer assume liability on their deceased father’s Datacard
        contract which still had an unlimited data plan. Unfortunately since the
        liability assumption process required the creation of a new account #
        it was impossible to transfer the grandfathered plan because the system
        wouldn’t issue a new account# with an invalid plan (and grandfathered
        plans are removed from the valid plan list). Unless they’ve made some
        major changes to the account management system (which is unlikely) then
        you would hit the same barrier trying to assume that smartphone line.

      • Michael Gilly

        You can sign your contract off to someone else. Dead people, however, have no legal rights (You can’t force a company to do something with a last will). When a person dies, a contract is (at least with wireless carriers) considered void.

    • Austin

      Me to

    • Kisuk3

      Amen!

    • brad

      Or just get rid of Verizon. Why support a company that is hell bent on giving us less and charging us more.

      • $$$

        because that describes every company in every retail/service sector.

        • PC_Tool

          …and they are the best network in many areas.

    • MudRacersParents

      Soon, we hope.

    • V.A. N.

      LOL!!! Looks like we’ll be in the same cemetary.

      • MudRacer

        Its possible the rest of D-L will be too.

    • 1MPR0BUS

      I’m taking it to my grave and now if Google goes with their current play of selling phones directly from the Play store doesn’t seem to bad. Guess we will just be paying out of pocket more for our devices.

      • unaffected

        Hopefully Google will be offering deals.

  • Jeff Stewart

    Now if only Google would sell CDMA Nexus phones through the play store THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!!

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      That would indeed be awesome.

      • http://twitter.com/thehammerofthor Jeff Helget

        It would, and if they do, then that is the route I will be taking from now on.

        Pros:
        Keep unlimited data
        Not bound to a contract

        Cons:
        Pay unsubsidized price for handset

        Un-con:
        By that time (a year and a half from now) Verizon will have upped their subsidized flagship phone price to AT LEAST $399.99, which is what you can get an unlocked Nexus for right now

        Please carry a CDMA/LTE Nexus in the Play Store, Google… I beg of you

        • EC8CH

          If Google is going to carry CDMA/LTE phones, this is the best thing that could have happened for them.

          Ok, maybe not the best… but it will help push a lot of geeks with unlimited data their way.

        • RoninX

          Me too. It’s win-win-win!

          You get:
          - Unlimited data
          - The best LTE coverage
          - An unsullied Nexus phone with vanilla Android and fast updates

          Verizon gets
          - Customer loyalty
          - No phone subsidy costs ever

          Google gets
          - Reduced fragmentation
          - A better reputation for the Android experience

          • 1ofdakoolkidz

            Not going to happen, keep in mind that Verizon has to Ok any phone on their network, so why would they do this?

          • Rafy186

            My opinion exactly. It will not happen. Like I stated in my post, the best we can wish is that Google’s and Sprint’s relationship remains strong and Google decides to make CDMA/LTE devices that support both Verizon and Sprints frequencies.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10602828 Mike Hilal

            They have to allow any phone that uses CDMA onto their network according to FCC regs. They may bitch about it, but they have to do it.

          • 1ofdakoolkidz

            Well, test out your theory, go get a sprint phone and tell them you want to use it and see how that works out for you. Let’s not forget that you are only talking about voice, what is the chance of data working and if all that gets accomplished let’s not forget about their Ace in the hole, The ESN which they will tell you is not working or make up some excuse they will find a technicality that’s why they have good lawyers on payroll.

          • 1ofdakoolkidz

            What should really happen, is that Google should create their own MVNO or buy T-mobile. They should take it completely out of the carriers hands!

          • unaffected

            But do they have to offer unlimited data if it is not bought through Verizon?

          • RoninX

            Why wouldn’t they? Verizon makes more money if they can hold on to subscribers while not having to pay subsidies to OEMs. Every subsidy payment comes out of their bottom line…

          • https://plus.google.com/110773438514346746273/ tjhrulz

            Everyone wins, except my wallet

        • mustbepbs

          Dear God..$400 for a smartphone? That’s the day that I’ll pass.

          • aaCharley

            That really is the point, isn’t it. We know that whatever subsidy is paid by Verizon on phone acquisition is recoverd from the price of the plan over the two year life of contract. So Verizon will agree to let you subsidize other’s phones by charging you the same rate, and the extra you pay for the phone is actually an add on for the Unlimited service. It becomes a “do it our way or pay about double for the data plan” program, and still be subject to getting throttled. Noice. Vury, vury Noice.

          • mustbepbs

            The ****? Down votes for not wanting to pay $400 subsidized? Screw you, people! You can have your off-contract purchases every 2 months.

          • Charles Rogers

            400 is unsubsidized.

          • mustbepbs

            Huh? His comment clearly states “Verizon will have upped their subsidized flagship phone price to AT LEAST $399.99″.

      • Austin

        How dose that benefit us, you have to take it to a carrier anyways, soon they will all have family shared plans

        • Sqube

          I see that people harshed on you, but I’ll explain: if you buy an unsubsidized phone (i.e. buy it directly from Google) and you already have an unlimited plan, VZW will not take it away from you. Also, consider the price of the GNex from the Play Store ($400). If the next generation Nexus matches that price, it won’t be that much more of a reach to get one of those, rather than take the $300 subsidized price from VZW and lose your unlimited data.

          That’s the benefit.

      • http://twitter.com/JohnnyACE562 GRAND MASTER SEN$Ei {{-_-}}™

        And it will also probably never happen. {{-_-}}

    • EC8CH

      THIS…

      and VZW should offer lower rates to customers buying phones at full retail price, but that’ll never happen.

      • shdowman

        “and VZW should offer lower rates to customers buying phones at full retail price”

        Ha…hahaha….hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha….wait….BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • Jake

      Hopefully this is the plan. Would also be cool if they use their open device portal and everything. Right now there is only ONE consumer oriented smartphone sorta device on it and I don’t think it is even actually available as it’s from some no name company that has apparently never got it into production.

      http://opennetwork.verizonwireless.com/deviceModuleDetails.aspx?showcase=devices&deviceId=334

      Technically you are already supposed to be able to go and buy random nonVZW marketed VZW compatible open devices off contract, but VZW controls the majority of devices sales AND CONFIGURATIONS(open or not) with their subsidy stuffs. Basically I am pretty sure the OEMs are asked to never offer open devices through that open device portal if they want any marketing help from VZW with subsidy offers and VZW marketing on other devices and such.

      This basically makes Google the only option as everyone else needs to sell massive quantities of devices somehow and would be restricted if they went this route as many or even most will still want their subsidy.

    • http://twitter.com/TheTerrorWrist Poise

      hopefully by then they’ll be able to figure out how to update them properly.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew-Leonenko/100003557181924 Andrew Leonenko

      ebay.

    • Droosh

      Great, so we buy affordable Nexus devices for $400 from Google instead of $650 from Verizon – but then Verizon will never allow you to activate them on their network. They are holding us hostage!

    • AR

      4G phones work by transfering sim card between the devices same as in GSM devices i have a Gnexus and a razer maxx and i keep switching my sim card between both of them with no problem that means that when You buy any 4G LTE from Google all what you need to do is to use your existing sim in the new phone there is no CDMA control over the LTE phone any more.

  • RW-1

    I’d like a published list of those who told VZ they would like to share data!
    That is the biggest crock of $hit I’ve ever heard, ranks up there with moto saying they’ll unlock the bootloaders.
    I truly believe those were customers who wish to tether and “share” their unlimited data between devices they already have, not what VZ would love all of us to believe.

    • Tim242

      I worked at an at&t call center. Customers were always complaining about not being able to share data, or have data rollover, like on the voice plans. Most customers are light data users, or use mostly wifi. They don’t want a data plan on every line.

  • Akuma

    This is fine with me. I have my G-Nex, and in the next few years if I want a new phone, I will not take a subsidized one. Unlimited data is priceless.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=505617824 Yannick Mark Perryman

      actually its 30 bucks. woop! :)

    • FortitudineVincimus

      a $650 retail phone is about $700 OTD with tax. A $250 phone subsidized is about 270. $700 – 270 = $430 saved with subsidized phone & then from there you can run numbers to decide which is better based on how much data you “really” use once they give us the new tier pricing versus $30 unlimited per month.

      • tomn1ce

        Buying a phone at full price from a vendor other then verizon is going to be better then loosing unlimited data. Right now other then the double your data special they have been running. The family data share plan is not going to beat $30 for unlimited data. I prefer to pay full price to amazon.com or wirefly.com or any other vendor other then VZW where I can find a phone at a lower (full) price then what VZW is going to be charging for the device to the ones unwilling to give up our unlimited data.

      • Akuma

        I am not going to be buying brand new phones out of the box. I’ll wait and get one used. Not having the latest and greatest is a small price to pay for limitless data.

  • dashing

    I guess I will be buying new phones on ebay now..

  • http://twitter.com/mhendersonco Mike Henderson

    Another reason to buy a phone from Google and keep the contract. #crossesfingers

  • KleenDroid

    This is good news for me, but I still think its a bunch of crap for most people. I doubt most people with multiple phones will want to pay full price for all their phones. Verizon knows most people will fall right into their long term plan because of finances. It’s fine by me though, I will simply buy my phones elsewhere and then activate them on my Verizon account.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=75200646 Stephen Cox

    Paying full price for a phone is cheaper for me than losing my data plan discounts. So, looks like I need to start saving for my next phone at full price, and use up what contracts I have currently available now or waste them.

  • Bert336

    yea sure unlimited data ….yet what they dont mention is that i am pretty sure they are going to be capping the 4G LTE speeds after a certain limit just like AT&T which will bring you to a 3g Crawl making the unlimited once again worthless..

    • Apostrafee

      I believe they already do

      • Adam Staggenborg

        Verizon can’t throttle 4g speeds (legally). That was one of the requirements when they bought the 700mhz band.

        • EC8CH

          That hasn’t stopped them from blocking Google Wallet.

        • Apostrafee

          Gotcha, so it’s the 3G they throttle

  • cheezer88

    from now on all my phones will be boughy on Swappa and Craigslist

    • hkklife

      Prepare for the street prices of new LTE Android phones on CL & Swapps to go through the roof in the coming months!

    • Maxim

      I have been out of contract for over 4 years and only buy phones from ebay/craiglist. I know the phone will not be the “newest”, but a sligthly older gen phone works for me!

  • potacho

    Whelp, I guess I won’t be buying my phones from Verizon anymore.

    • Benjamin Wilson

      You can always buy phones from Swappa.com, unfortunately your bill doesn’t go down. You are still paying for all the other subsidized phones on the network.

  • LoyalCustumer

    Uff now I’m more relax !