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Verizon Officially Clarifies the End of Unlimited Data One More Time – Echoes Our Thoughts From Earlier

Verizon, in an attempt to officially clarify all things unlimited data vs. shared data tiers, has published another note and sent an email to the NY Times that should set the record straight. Let’s just say that this note from Big Red is exactly what we already told you in our clarification post from earlier in the day. This was nice of them to settle it once and for all though. Well, for the most part. 

As we have stated publicly, Verizon Wireless has been evaluating its pricing structure for some time.  Customers have told us that they want to share data, similar to how they share minutes today.  We are working on plans to provide customers with that option and will introduce new plans later this year.

When the new options are introduced, Unlimited Data will no longer be available to our customers purchasing handsets and signing a new contract. Customers who choose to purchase phones at full retail price and are currently on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan. The same pricing and policies will apply to all 3G and 4GLTE smartphones.

We will share specific details of the plans well in advance of their introduction so customers will have time to evaluate the plans and make the best decisions for their wireless service.  It is our goal and commitment to continue to provide customers with the same high value service they have come to expect from Verizon Wireless.

The email in bullets:

  • Customers will not be automatically moved to new shared data plans. If a 3G or 4G smartphone customer is on an unlimited plan now and they do not want to change their plan, they will not have to do so.
  • When we introduce our new shared data plans, Unlimited Data will no longer be available to customers when purchasing handsets at discounted pricing.
  • Customers who purchase phones at full retail price and are on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan.
  • The same pricing and policies will be applied to all 3G and 4GLTE smartphones.

So just as we said earlier – this doesn’t affect you if you are on a contract as of today or up until they launch shared data tiers. If you renew after shared plans go live though, and take on a discounted or subsidized phone, you will have to choose a shared data tier and come off of unlimited. If you want to continue on month-to-month after your contract is done with your same old phone and/or upgrade at full retail to a new one, you get to keep your current unlimited plan. Verizon can’t void your current contract and push you into a tier, again, as we said earlier.

The only thing this doesn’t explain is how this will work when you have multiple lines and one of those lines takes on a new contract with a subsidized phone. Does that affect everyone on that account or not?

There you have it, again.

Via:  Verizon | NY Times

Cheers zepfloyd and James!

  • newob

    With truly unlimited data plans on other providers Verizon will be losing a lot of customers…and hopefully give the unlimited choice back

  • fpu4eva

    its stupid to buy a subsidized phone when you can get them on ebay for the same price as a 2 year contract use a sniper i picked up a rezound for 194 shipped perfect condition with the headphones too and just saw a razr go for 220

  • Jorge

    damn it, trying to order right now and it’s telling me that Unlimited is no longer available.
    been trying since 11:15 PST

  • yoyomynigga

    Everyone needs to boycott Verizon. They already have rip-off rates

  • I think eventually at some point in the future, data will be unlimited again.

  • Wondering

    But they are also cutting out 3g right moving everyone to 4g? As of next year they will be no new 3g devices 4g only so when you buy a new phone even purchasing at full price you will have to get 4g thus you will be placed on new tier and no more unlimited? Verizon sucks but I never lose signal or drop calls so im stuck!!

  • cell_ phone_ mike

    If you guys think Verizon will let you keep your unlimited data plan think again. My first phone with them back in 1998 had first incomming minute for free,unlimited EVENINGS( 7pm) and weekends for free,free long distance from my calling area. This too was taken away in time. I give it another 6 months if that. Watch Your Statments Closely! Verizon’s new toy LTE is all ready in the works to sell far better for them than FIOS! LTE Home Fusion is it’s name.

  • arthuruscg

    I will say this again. The service provider should not be selling the phone. VZ has a monopaly on where to buy the phones and how much the phones cost.
    It is like Comcast forcing you to buy Comcast TVs or Comcast phone.

  • I think I’ll be keeping my galaxy nexus for a while i love Verizon don’t get me wrong but you said it best yes they are a business but the point is they are driving off old (but good) customers first upgrade charges and now this, I’ve almost had it with their shenanigans

  • Gregory Pickering

    Dear Verizon,

    Ta Ta Bitches….

    Sincerely,
    A former customer.

  • Oh

    The confidence around pure speculation is amazing here. “What we already told you”, “as we said earlier” (twice). Guess it REALLY needs to be pointed out to everyone that Droid-Life’s speculation about this subject, luckily, were correct. Ummm, good job, I guess.

  • Red_Baran

    Join the FaceBook Group
    https://www.facebook.com/SaveVerizonUnlimitedDataPlans Tell Verizon not to take our unlimited data!

  • BC

    I am a little confused. This seems to apply to 3G upgrades to 4G. But what if you already have 4G? Will I be affected at the next upgrade cycle? Can I just keep my current phone, and keep on with my unlimited data plan? And if not, can I just pay month to month indefinitely?

  • Prime7

    Looks like the GNex will be the last phone I ever own. At least it’s a nice one.

  • Troutbeck27

    My gut feeling. Is that they will do this right as the S3 or the RAzr HD are released to so that if we want this phones those of us on the unlimited plan will have to give it up if we want these new phone 🙁

  • fluke

    Well, goodbye Verizon. I am off contract with a OG Droid and it is slow as hell. By the time they get a decent phone they want to shove me onto some tier, forget it. Already pay too much for the crummy service they give. Maybe time to get a clear hotspot to lug around to tether to a tablet and just buy some crappy flip phone.

  • Isn’t it time for Google to start their own wireless carrier service and tell VZ to go screw?

  • FiringDragon

    What if you purchase a new compatible device from a different retailer?

    I think this will open a whole new market of opportunity for selling Verizon-compatible phones at discounted prices to those who just want to avoid losing their ‘unlimited data’ plans… Let the free market do what it does best!!!

  • Dennis Cahill

    So I can never leave my parent’s family plan. In a few years, I may get married and have kids of my own, but they’ll have to get their own plan. I want my unlimited.

  • Zack Miller

    so basically, my upgrade is in about a week. so if i upgrade my phone to a razr maxx for example, i will still have my unlimited data until i decide to upgrade farther than that two years from now?

  • Droosh

    This a crock! Talk about double dipping and screwing your customers! So they will overcharge you for buying your device at retail ($250 more for their G-Nex than Google’s GSM models for example) and then not even discount the price of the monthly plan even though they don’t need to build in recuperation for unamortized device subsidization costs.

  • V.A. N.

    Sounds fair to me.

  • Yeah they tell you can keep your plan now but we’ll see how long that lasts once you are not on a contract they have no reason to keep you. Not making up my mind until I see prices though I still think shared will benefit me.

  • DaTruthSay-er

    No one will be willing their unlimited data plans to their grandchildren. There will be some better fast network than the 3 or 4 G network the unlimited data plan will be applied to.
    You will just be that old guy/gal who is stuck in their ways with their old tech 😛

  • sog805

    So I guess I will be buying phones at full retail now. I bet VZW will raise the prices now.

  • allen spurr


    Customers who purchase phones at full retail price and are on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan. ”
    Well this sucks.. so if I decide to upgrade my phone I either have to pay full price or lose my unlimited plan? What a horribly sneaky move…

  • djb163

    each line on a family share plan are sepparate contracts, so if you upgrade one line at the discounted price and extend your contract, lose your unlimited data and join the family share data, but if another line pays full retail they will keep their unlimited data because that line was not extended for 2 more years. So esentially if you only have 2 lines 1 line would be unlimited and the other would have the whole family data to themself.

  • What happens if you go elsewhere to buy your phone? (ex. google play). Will Verizon honor that or will I be thrown in the data tier wagon? I hope that’s not the case.

  • JulianZHuang

    As long as I buy that phone with full price. No problem I guess haha.

  • VERIZON!!! AHHHHH

    We are working on plans to provide customers with that option and will introduce new plans later this year.

    Not exactly an option when we’re forced to do it

  • sporttster

    Buy one generation behind and save $$.

  • hateVerizon

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  • isn’t this like contractual blackmail…Saying you don’t have to loose your unlimited data plan but if you don’t want to loose it, you will pay full price for phones even though your entitled by contract to get an one upgrade every two years…?

    • JDHokie

      Your contract doesn’t entitle you to a new phone every two years.

  • John Simpson

    “When the new options are introduced… “. Usually when you use the word “options” it means there are some. I guess the only option they are giving you is “take it or leave it”.

  • What is the 4G receivers made of, gold?! There is no reason for carriers to charge us this much data and there is absolutely no reason for them to switch us just because we want a new phone. As soon as a Nexus device is supported by MetroPCS or someone can find a way to get it working on it, I’m probably jumping ship.

  • Chronon7364

    Any idea when tiered plans will be enacted?

  • Ben

    Looks like im buying phones at retail price from now on

  • MooleyBooleyTroll

    What happens when they switch to Voice Over LTE? We get the good old device isn’t compatible with your current plan BS and forced off of unlimited?

  • max

    I hope the galaxy s3 drops before the shared data get implemented, Im bored of my iphone

    • justin82

      you will want to get a 4g device before iphone 5 i guarantee that when iphone 5 comes out unlimeted 4g will not be available

  • FEDUPWITHVZW

    i just wrote VZW an email because of how pissed i am right now.

    here is the transcript.

    Dear Verizon Wireless,My name is D—- ——- my cell phone number is — —0152.I just would like to thank you for forcing me to get rid of the one thing i value with your company. my unlimited data plan. your recent announcement that if i use an upgrade after shared tiers are introduced, i will be forced off my unlimited data plan to be eligible to pay only the upgrade price merely infuriates me and makes me wonder who is actually in charge. I understand that your like apple, in the sense you know what product you have and would never bat an eye lash to claim that its not a big deal.

    this is my formal email to you, that when it comes for you to announce shared tiers, i will be cancelling my contracts and you will not be charging me any sort of ETF ( EARLY TERMINATION FEE) due to the fact that the contracts will be changing and i have every legal right to get off my contractual obligations once the terms and conditions have changed. i will be going to sprint wireless. i do not wish to do this, but you realize that most customers on your network are paying way more than they should be. youve already announced Upgrade Fees and have nickle and dimed most customers. ive done the math, and even if you introduced unlimited data on 4G networks, your infrastructure would remain in tacked and would not buckle. the future is here, and with the advancements in cell phone technology, operating systems and internet use, its a catch-22 to limit anyone to tiered data. you should at least give the option of a higher calling plan to purchase and not just do away with them all together.
    ive put up with paying more than i should because my phone always worked and has had the fastest speeds ive ever used on a phone.but today, sadly, i have vowed to cancel my contracts and never go back to your company. you used to care, now, your all about the money.i promise to reccomend most i know to move away from VZW as well. i also sell VZW at radioshack

    yes i do work at radioshack and until sprint goes tiered, i will be upselling sprint and downselling vzw services because of how much they suck and just want to screw over customers. i use 50 gigs a month tethering. yes ok im a data hog, but just like the rich, only a small percent of us use that much, and their systems and infrastructure could easily handle it. there is no f’ing plan at all that would match my needs with schooling and work and play and if they charged me, my bill would be astronomical.

    I HAVE ENOUGH!

    • InyRules

      I would have really had someone proofread that before I sent it…

  • papa54

    verizon is backing up on their plans , i was told as long as i had a smart phone or bought a new ev 2 that i would still be on the unlimited data. Now if they wanna get screwy with this i am sure i can set my ph on my charger and just DL night n day for a few weeks. but they bump us off the toweers because they have over sold the smart phones and the towers can not handle everyone, thus we get bumped if we’ve been chattering to long or DL’ing to long. they made a promise to me and iof they chose to be assinine about it ,, welp we’ll just see which one is the stubbornist.. me or them.. crap they are getting billions hand over hand and now its a “we’ll take the gold mine and give you the shaft” no problem on ph sales.. there’s houdreds on ebay… i hate to feel hood winked especially by a loyal server.. (not) bunch of asshole liars is about all verizon is in my humble opinion…

  • FEDUPWITHVZW

    i just wrote VZW an email because of how pissed off i am right now.

    heres the transcript:

    Dear Verizon Wireless,My name is Dean Springs, my cell phone number is 516 524 0152.I just would like to thank you for forcing me to get rid of the one thing i value with your company. my unlimited data plan. your recent announcement that if i use an upgrade after shared tiers are introduced, i will be forced off my unlimited data plan to be eligible to pay only the upgrade price merely infuriates me and makes me wonder who is actually in charge. I understand that your like apple, in the sense you know what product you have and would never bat an eye lash to claim that its not a big deal.

    this is my formal email to you, that when it comes for you to announce shared tiers, i will be cancelling my contracts and you will not be charging me any sort of ETF ( EARLY TERMINATION FEE) due to the fact that the contracts will be changing and i have every legal right to get off my contractual obligations once the terms and conditions have changed. i will be going to sprint wireless. i do not wish to do this, but you realize that most customers on your network are paying way more than they should be. youve already announced Upgrade Fees and have nickle and dimed most customers. ive done the math, and even if you introduced unlimited data on 4G networks, your infrastructure would remain in tacked and would not buckle. the future is here, and with the advancements in cell phone technology, operating systems and internet use, its a catch-22 to limit anyone to tiered data. you should at least give the option of a higher calling plan to purchase and not just do away with them all together.
    ive put up with paying more than i should because my phone always worked and has had the fastest speeds ive ever used on a phone.but today, sadly, i have vowed to cancel my contracts and never go back to your company. you used to care, now, your all about the money.i promise to reccomend most i know to move away from VZW as well. i also sell VZW at radioshack

    yes i work at radioshack and promise to not only get rid of them for me, but to upsell sprint and down sell VZW. im sick just sick. new users are signing up all the time and the ammount of unlimited data users would soon be less then the tiered plans. they have the ability but want to FORCE ME TO DO THEIR BIDDING. IM DONE . F’ING DONE WITH VERIZON.

    i know sprint might eventually go tiered, but hey they might keep unlimited knowing that as demand for data rises, the ratio of new customers vs maintaining towers would pay the costs associated to it.

    but even if they go tiered, until they do, i will be PUSHING NEW USERS OFF VERIZON AND UPSELLING SPRINT.

    damn you verizon. damn you damn you damn you.

    • The OldManintheWoods

      Hey speed racer I’d have pulled my phone number and name from the post before I put it up…..Oh yea and telling them where you work…not smart

      • Chronon7364

        Dean Springs, disregard the above post. You will be considered highly unprofessional if you exclude your SSN, CC number, bank routing number, and, of course, your mothers maiden name. It always add a little extra polish if you include your favorite pets name as well, perhaps even the street you were born on.

  • Dont upgrade any lines. Easy peasy.

  • MrEnglish

    I usually pay full price or get the phone from another source, so they can bite a goat, I’m keeping my 4g and they can keep their subsidies.

  • RadicalPie

    They would have to force people with family plans into it when one upgrades because if not I could use both Upgrades on one line then just switch the device to my unlimited line.

  • Looks like they found a way to stop subsidizing phones…I’ll be paying full price for my next device.

  • michael curtis

    so they are going to lose a lot of phone sells over this. I am pretty most verizon customers are like me and are only with verizon because of grandfather unlimited data. Looks like verizon isn’t going to get another dime from me when I buy my next phone. Might as well buy a nexus from the google store for full price.

    Another note 3rd party websites like letstalk.com and wirefly.com sell you a phone at a discount price and allow you to choose keep existing data plan when renewing features and contract. They get paid per customer they add or renew. So this might be the work around.

  • If you have multiple lines on your account, and each line has its own unlimited data and one person decides to upgrade at the discounted price then that line should still have its own data plan, and not be shared. They are separate contracts and, just like you said, they can’t force you out of your contracted agreement, even if one person on the account decides to upgrade at discounted price…I wouldn’t think.

  • BAoxymoron

    Are any of the S4 devices going to be out by the time this comes into effect or am I buying my next phone at full retail????

  • William_Morris

    This will actually help me. Now I will have to be absolutely certain about which phone I choose in the future because the investment is going to be so much more expensive up front.

    Granted all I want, now that I’ve used a Nexus phone, is PGE. Skins don’t do this operating system justice IMHO.

  • ophios

    I have a question. I currently have unlimited data. If I have to give it up I am going to a flip phone and just use my wifi tablet for access (after all there are wifi everywhere these days). Anyway, my question is: if I bought a razor Max (for example) from amazon or somewhere, can I swap my DROID X with it and keep my grandfathered unlimited data plan?

    • Nerrington141

      From what I’m seeing here, yes. As long as you have a 4G unlimited plan before this takes effect you can keep the unlimited 4G plan. Same with 3g, but i assumed you only care about 4G.

  • davidukfl

    There reasoning is completely ridiculous. I get some people want to share data, but that doesn’t mean those who don’t should be essentially forced into ditching their unlimited plans. Typical Verizon, another example of them giving less to the customer and charging them more for it.

  • Alex Hutchins

    What if I have unlimited 4G hotspot? Will that stay unlimited if I buy full retail as well? Hope so. Definitely buying full retail from now on. No way I’m giving up unlimited.

  • Chad Baker

    Do you have to already be on 4G when this goes into effect to keep unlimited? I am on 3G Unlimited now and don’t want to be forced into a tiered 4G plan. Do I have to get a 4G/LTE plan now to lock in an unlimited 4G/LTE plan or can I just buy a phone at full price in the future and upgrade from unlimited 3G to unlimited 4G/LTE?

    • GrailsEdge

      If you have 3g unlimited right now…you can upgrade to a 4g phone
      and have unlimited. After this summer tho….nope……….So do it before
      then.

  • Androidandwp7equalsPower

    Time to buy phones at full price.

  • tomn1ce

    I see the sales on amazon.com and wirefly.com and similar sites like this going up. Of course for those of us who want to buy a brand new device. I notice that some people mention ebay and craigslist and “swappa.” Is a good thing that I upgraded to a G-Nexus in Dec and hopefully won’t need to buy a new phone until 2013 and hopefully 2014. To me a phone usually lasts me the life of the contract and most of the time a little longer and now that I’m planing to be contract free to keep my unlimited data plan, I’ll make sure that the phone last longer.

  • Adrian

    Does anyone know if only one phone on a shared contract renews their contract, does that affect the unlimited data of the other phones on that contract?

  • packfan678

    What kind of customer says “I am sick of unlimited data I want it capped and I want to pay the same amount as I did for unlimited”

    • cost

      The kind who says “I only use 300 megs a month, want to upgrade, and don’t want to pay $700 for the new Droid Galaxy Nexus Razr Maxxx 5.”

      • John M

        I have unlimited, but I bet I never go over 2GB a month. I am halfway through my cycle now and am only at 400MB. Wifi is better than my 3g anyway.

  • aross6

    We will have our Unlimited Data FORevErrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!! Thankfully, Google’s proposal to start selling the Nexus directly again will make that Totally possible!!!

  • 1ofdakoolkidz

    Well guess what Verizon is going to do next then; Raise the price of retail phones so that they force you to get off if you want a new phone and what about insurance replacements, I know from working there that if your phone needed to be replaced they would not honor the unlimited data at a certain point.

  • SD_Scott

    Guess it’s a good thing Google is going to sell unlocked devices on the cheap…

  • Rafy186

    Why is everyone in such a sigh of relief? All they going to do now is raise the prices of smartphone without contract like they already done for High-end smartphone on contract and continue their stronghold position of what can be a certified device on their network.

    All those of you who think Google Nexus phones will sport CDMA/LTE variant for Verizon should really think twice. Perhaps in a few years when CDMA is oust by LTE but as of now it won’t happen because Verizon won’t allow it. The only hope I have that we may get a Google Nexus variant with CDMA/LTE for Verizon is the good relationship that Google and Sprint have. If Google can do the same as they are doing in the GSM Pentaband with CDMA/LTE and support both Verizon and Sprint in one device then perhaps. I’m just expecting for the worst and wishing for the best. We really need to begin to show these companies what our wallets can do. Thats the real solution.

  • One saving grace to this may be Google directly selling phones. If they have another Verizon Nexus for $399, it might end up being a good buy to keep unlimited data (if you need it).

  • chris125

    Customers who purchase phones at full retail price and are on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan.- This is a great sign that they won’t dick with customers who buy full price and can keep their unlimited data.

    • Benjamin Wilson

      It’s a great sign because their revenues go up that way. If you purchase a device at full retail, and you continue paying your bill, you are still paying for subsidizing phones, just not yours. In order to avoid a contract and keep your unlimited data, you just purchased a device for say $600 and are still paying the $400 subsidies that you normally would have paid for the phone. You just allowed VZW to rake it $400 free and clear, all for the sake of retaining unlimited data.

  • byron

    I dont know if people talked about this already, but what about insurance, what if you wait 2 years and say your phones broken… will asurion still have your phone after 2 years, or will they give you an updated phone? This makes insurance more important than ever now… you can possibly use it to upgrade your phone.

  • Steve

    When I lose unlimited data , verizon loses me and my 7 lines of service !!

  • BMAN

    Well guess im going to go to sprint when my contract is up completely

  • So I may have missed this part…I understand that since I already upgraded my family line to 4G that those on the line will still have unlimited data. And when we go to upgrade after the 2yrs that we’ll lose the unlimited data.

    BUT is there a time frame as to when this may switch over? I’d consider doing an early upgrade before they roll it out.

  • it still isnt clear whether someone who has an unlimited 3G data plan decides to buy a 4G phone at full retail after the new plans are out, would they be forced to switch to etird ?

    • frankandsimple

      I have the same question.. but my guess is.. you can keep your unlimited data. Technically Verizon does NOT discriminate between 3g and 4g data. At least that is how it is now.

    • Mchl496

      People are freaking out about paying full price on a phone. I am rocking a thunderbolt and I think I am 6 months away from being able to update. What I will do is pay the ETF… its a lot less to cancel with 6th months to spare. I think its 30 dollars a month. I’ll get the SG3 or a varient if we can get access to the 2gig ram and enjoy

    • GrailsEdge

      Yes…if you have 3g unlimited right now…you can upgrade or buy a 4g phone
      and have unlimited. After this summer tho….nope. So do it before
      then.

  • ASDF

    Are they going to do away with single data plan? I am on a family plan and if someone upgrades are they forced to use shared data forcing me out of unlimited?

  • frankandsimple

    Looks like Craigslist/Ebay is gonna be busy with current unlimited-data VZW customers looking for out-of-contract phones.
    I would rather spend the extra hundred or 2 hundred and keep my unlimited data.. than buy a subsidized phone. and heck no.. I will never buy a phone at full price from VZW… who the heck does that anyway!

  • This was obviously a response to Google’s Nexus expansion. {{v_v}}

  • kronikings

    Awesome! as long as I buy my phone on ebay or craigslist or basically anywhere else i can keep my unlimited data forever? Shared data means absolutely nothing to me now.

  • Justin

    If you have unlimited with a 3g phone would you be able to buy a full price 4g phone and keep unlimited? Or does 3g to 4g insight the switch over????????????

    • GrailsEdge

      You’re gonna have to buy a 4g phone now or before Verizon implements
      this plan. That way you can keep unlimited on LTE. After the plan…you will be out of luck.

  • marballe

    My conspiracy theory: unlimited data plans will end two years from the introduction of shared data plans.
    Right now, they can’t cancel unlimited data plans as that will void the contract; however, with this new scheme, all unlimited data plans will be out of contract and be on month-to-month within two years from the introduction of shared data plans. And Big Red can cancel that however they want.
    Obviously, it could be even sooner when whatever after LTE comes out. They can just not grandfathered that in.

  • shdowman

    Oh, and for those additional lines you speak of??

    I’ll just keep my phone and let them tether off me. Mwahahahahahahahaha!!

  • GNEX(MOTOX)

    f******… really hoping google decides to make 1 cdma nexus device for sake of screwing vz… and helping us.. I will NEVER give up my unlimited data and be sucked into a shithole of a plan..

  • RoadsterHD1

    I’m going to look online or eBay for my future devices and just switch my number over.

  • br_hermon

    I’m not going to address the issue of unlimited pricing vs. shared / teired data. The thing that interests me here is verizons official statement on purchasing full price phones and allowing unlimited data plans to continue. I still have my serious doubts on Google selling verizon compatible phones through Google play, however… If they do this could be win for us. Buy from Google play, Swappa or even ebay and keep your plan. This could turn out better than some originally thought.

    • Art Holguin

      this works for me

  • This sounds better – particularly since I have no plans to change my phone. However, knowing how Verizon operates, I truly see this taking some different form altogether when time comes to bring it to light.

  • Andy

    so what date is the final day to stay unlimited?

    • shdowman

      “We will share specific details of the plans well in advance of their
      introduction so customers will have time to evaluate the plans and make
      the best decisions for their wireless service.”

      It’s actually in the article…

  • RoadsterHD1

    ok, what if next year i get a quad-core super phone and i give my Bionic to my wife who is now sporting a D2 3G phone. I walk into Verizon and ask for my number to be switched to my new phone and her D2 to be switched to her Bionic which now means she will have 4G. Does this change her plan and or does it affect both? Right now we both have grandfathered in unlimited plans.

    • I’m in a similar situation. I think you’ll be able to keep your unlimited data in this scenario since you didn’t upgrade at the subsidized price.

  • WillBuss

    Verizon will begin to fall from this mistake, why would you want a smartphone if you can’t have unlimited data. I use 2 gigs in about 4 or 5 days. they will miss my 330.00 every month.

    • justin82

      no they wont

  • enigmaco

    I’m on 3G as well and my upgrade doesn’t come until november. I was going to buy a 4G phone but now I am afraid for fear of losing my unlimited data.

    • GrailsEdge

      You’re gonna have to buy a 4g phone now or before Verizon implements this plan. That way you can keep unlimited on LTE. If you wait for you’re upgrade you will lose it…………sorry.

  • So i am due for an upgrade and currently have unlimited, should i upgrade and get on the 4g unlimited while i still can or am i too late 🙁

    • RoadsterHD1

      You are probably to late to get grandfathered in because that ship sailed a long time ago. If you go 4G now you will have to get a tier plan. If I am wrong someone please correct me, I do not want to steer anyone wrong.

        • RoadsterHD1

          LOL, I know, it sucks.

      • Jon M

        FWIW, I’m in the same boat. I went to a Verizon store yesterday, and asked the same question. An employee said I could keep grandfathered data while upgrading to 4g… She was ready to sell me a phone, but I want to wait until Dinc 4g or the SGIII drops….

        • RoadsterHD1

          Good to know, thanks man..good news then for Michael Rhodes

      • you were wrong, thank god 🙂 i ended up going in the next day and upgrading to the nex and even with the data hiccups with 4g i am still extremely happy with the phone

    • GrailsEdge

      Yes…if you have 3g unlimited right now…you can upgrade to a 4g phone and have unlimited. After this summer tho….nope. So do it before then.

    • RyDub42

      As long as you have unlimited 3G data, you should get unlimited 4G. Unlimited is unlimited. Now, if you wait until after they do this whole shared data thing, you may be out of luck.

  • Scott

    What if pay full-retail price for the phone outside of Verizon? Do I get to keep my unlimited then?

    • Anthony White

      Yes. You can pay full retail price outside for a phone and just activate it online, in the store, over the phone and you will not loose you’re unlimited data.

  • Jeff “BIG RED”

    WHO WANTS TO PAY FULL RETAIL FOR A PHONE? ALMOST WORTH KEEPING UNLIMITED DATA TO DO SO….

  • Jeff “BIG RED”

    This is a great way to kick me in the sack!!!! Seriously? I have enjoyed like hell my $9.99 Promo I have on 3 of my lines for unlimited data! What a great way to piss of customers enough to give the finger to VZW and go elsewhere…..

  • RoadsterHD1

    The only thing this doesn’t explain is how this will work when you have multiple lines and one of those lines takes on a new contract with a subsidized phone. Does that affect everyone on that account or not? ?? This is a good question. Does anyone know the answer?

    • Jess B

      I want to know this as well – my husband has an upgrade coming up this summer.

      • RoadsterHD1

        An answer on the community was that it will not affect other lines on the same family plan as all the lines are a separate contract from one another. The only one it affects is the one making the change.

  • LionStone

    Wuut? Earlier you said, “From what we assume, Verizon is moving from a singular model of per line or per customer data plans to a shared or account structure, so while we don’t know the exact details of those plans, it sounds as if the only available plans in the future will be shared data. Whether you are by yourself or not, it will all just be one pool of data to pull from on your account. (That last part is me speculating of course.)”

    Is not “exactly” what VZ said recently, “Customers who choose to purchase phones at full retail price and are currently on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan.”

  • isac417

    what if i have a 3g unlimited plan and i buy a 4g phone at full price am i houng to be able to use lte at unlimited data?

    • GrailsEdge

      If you do it before they implement this plan…then yes…..If later….then most likely not.

  • GotSka81

    To answer your question about family plans, Kellex, I can almost certainly say that one user on a family plan going this route will not affect the others. When a family plan exists, all the phones on the plan have their own separate contracts with Verizon. This contract can move to it’s own plan, or to another plan, if necessary…and no fees are applied. In other words, each line is treated as an individual contract, and will be dealt with accordingly. That is, unless Verizon pulls the usual crap and decides to screw everyone.

  • Jason Purp

    I’ll have unlimited data forever >:D

  • I am happy with how this played out. I have already been buying phones at the end of their product cycle off of ebay which doesn’t end up being much more expensive than buying from Verizon and I don’t have to deal with the growing pains of cutting edge phones. So now I still get to keep my unlimited data seems like a win-win.

    • Charlie

      I completely agree. I’m totally fine with this.

    • Havoc70

      yep works for me too, buy from elsewhere keep my unlimited

      • hkklife

        Once again, when this happens, I expect demand to go up and supply to go down (and prices to skyrocket) when everyone else starts getting the same idea to get their “new” phones on E-Bay, CL, Swappa etc.

  • I could see this having a pretty big impact on OEM’s. If people aren’t jumping in on getting new phones and contracts then their profits will surely take a hit, don’t ya think? The only way out is to buy a phone from Google. So let’s say that the new Nexus is $299 on Verizon, and Google is selling it for $399. You would have to remember that Verizon is charging $30 for every upgrade now, plus you have to pay tax on the full price of the phone, unless you buy it at Costco. That Google price is looking more and more competitive, if that is the actual price point.

  • Alan Burnstine

    If they would just say what the effing price for shared data plans will be, all this drama and worry would be over. Those who see value in the new plans won’t worry, those who see more value in unlimited can either pay retail for their phones or switch to sprint while they still offer unlimited data. If they weren’t ready to talk price, they should have kept their mouths shut. Their inability to simply make a clear and concise announcement about data pricing has caused more stress and drama over the past dozen years than anything I have seen from any other company.

    • REDCLOVER

      The reason that everyone is worrying is because the same guy that leaked this info (Verizon CFO i believe) also stated that these shared plans would be a HUGE profit making venture for Verizon! Thus causing worry over how much these plans will cost!

  • So i have a 3g phone right now. If i upgrade right now to a 4g phone will i be able to keep my unlimited even after this?

    • As long as you do it before this. or when you upgrade after you will have too party full price.

    • droidinmind

      I believe the answer is yes!!!

    • evileclipse

      yes, as long as you do it before they implement the new plans.

  • byebyeverizon

    Every month i will try to break my record of data usage. my goal will be 50GBs in a month before i leave.

    • Anthony White

      You haven’t done that yet? I do it all the time. I got over 52GBs one month.

    • RoadsterHD1

      I’m at 25.55MB LOL and still going. I used 35Gigs last month. It’s Netflix, If i loose unlimited data i’ll have to cancel Netflix too.

    • Los

      dude i did 65 on 3g

  • Devilsephiroth

    like I’m buying at full retail price now, maybe from Google

  • Colonel_Awesomesauce

    my SO is about to upgrade, in a few weeks, so hopefully we can sneak in her upgrade before this changes. But it seems like from now on we’ll be buying our phones at full price

  • possomcrast

    Good for Kellex since he always buys fully priced phones.

  • Destroythanet

    I fine with this policy. I’d rather keep unlimited data and pay full price for phones.

  • Ron Perlman’s Jaw

    Of course this won’t affect corporate accounts with a bunch of lines.

  • OhAaron

    Yes! If Verizon keeps to this statement, then I won’t be leaving.

  • beez1717

    This is still Verizon trying to force people to go onto onto tiered data plans. Not many people can afford to buy a phone at full price, so most people will end up being either stuck with their phones for a very long time or they will be forced to pay up the nose for their data, and not get what they need.

  • skzion

    Well, that settles it. Glad I got a Razr recently, but I’ll definitely be moving from Verizon when I find I need a new phone.

  • craigslist, ebay, swappa phone values are going to skyrocket this summer.

    • scott braunworth

      I was just thinking the same thing.. I have two LTE phones now, I might buy a 3rd just incase!

  • AlexKCMO

    For those who don’t know who wants shared data over unlimited data
    People who currently DO NOT have unlimited data would
    probably like to share data. They care about these people. These
    people are the ones they have to worry about leaving to another
    network.

    They could probably care less about those of us who already have
    unlimited data. We’re already “locked” into unlimited data, and now
    they’ll be reaping pure profit from us since in order
    to keep our unlimited data, we will no longer be taking advantage of
    subsidized pricing. They’ll begin reaping profits immediately as
    opposed to once we finally pay off our subsidies through the plans.

    It’s a business decision, and a good one for them. It sucks for us.

    Well played Verizon; well played.

    • kronikings

      How is this a good business decision for Verizon considering I just won’t buy a phone from Verizon? You can always find a good deal on a phone a month or two after it comes out. I will keep my unlimited data and I’ll find a good deal on a phone. no big deal.

      • AlexKCMO

        Verizon doesn’t make any money off subsidizing phones. That’s why they lost money their first year having subsidized iPhones. You buying a phone at full retail means pure profits from your monthly payments.

        • Droosh

          Wrong. True that they don’t make any money off of iPhones as they give iOS customers much bigger subsidies than Android customers. I guarantee you that the prices that they charged us on release day for the G-Nex, Bionic, X, Razr, etc. are significantly higher than what they bought them for from the OEMs.

          • AlexKCMO

            http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401394,00.asp

            Wrong. Second paragraph:
            A carrier subsidy allows the carrier to offset
            some of the cost of the phone by offering it for an up-front discount.
            The customer then makes up the cost of the phone via his or her normal
            monthly payment.

            Now its your turn to link a source.

          • Droosh

            Your quote says it right there. “some” of the cost of the phone. Just common sense. Look at the $399 they charge for some devices out of the box, while they quote “retail” price at $650 for example. Google sells the G-Nex directly for $400 while Verizon says it’s retail price is $650 for the device?!?! There is no way that the cost of the extra RAM and an LTE chip is $250 dollars.

            Also, they sell the subsidized iPhones for the same cost as flagship Android’s despite Apple always having a higher “retail” price for their flagship. This proves that they give a bigger subsidy for iPhones than Android’s even though they charge iPhone users the same price for data plans. This is a market advantage for Apple and as it proves that Verizon makes less profit (if any profit) on the iOS devices.

    • this is a good point.

  • I think it may be a good idea to jump to a double data promo plan now, before that ends too…

    http://shop.verizonwireless.com/?id=Double%20Data

  • imronburgundy

    What customers told you that they wanted to share data? Ever since this tiered bs has started, customers have been crying “foul”.

    • Families who don’t have unlimited data — if you don’t use up your own 2Gb every month, of course you want to share it with other members in your family account.

    • InyRules

      Shared data is great for family plans that don’t use a lot of data. Instead of paying $30 for each 2GB plan, let’s say they pay $60 (hypothetical price) for 10GB shared data across all lines, and they have 3 lines. They’d already be saving $30.

  • Ok, maybe I’m missing something because I don’t have an LTE device, but if I purchase an LTE phone, and want to keep my unlimited data, since I’m going to a 4G LTE device does that mean I’m forced onto tiered data?

    • EC8CH

      if you buy a subsidized phone after this goes into effect, yes you will lose unlimited data.

      if you buy a phone a full retail, then no you will keep unlimited data

      • but is my current unlimited data for my DInc going to work on, say a GNex, to give me unlimited 4GLTE, or do they consider the LTE plans to be separate?

        • EC8CH

          3G… 4G…. no diff as far as contract is concerned

          a data plan is a data plan

          • Thank you for that clarification. I know other carriers differentiate between 3G plans and 4G plans. Glad Verizon doesn’t (yet). This pleases me 🙂

          • EC8CH

            No prob…

            I’m from the Internet.

    • Buzzy42

      I know at the time 4G started they were just calling it all a “data plan” but I think that might have started changing. Odds are by the time this takes effect they’ll make them different. I doubt they want (some of) the iPhone users able to get unlimited 4G whenever the iPhone 5 comes out…

      I would think the safest bet would be to switch to a 4G phone ASAP; you probably could do the switch now ok, but once the new shared plans start… I doubt it.

  • Buzzy42

    As much as the Thunderbolt gets mocked (some deservedly, some not at all), it got me grandfathered into unlimited 4G data which makes it worth its weight in gold to me right now. (which was a HUGE part of the reason I bought it, and honestly, none of the other pre-tier 4G phones seemed that much better) I really don’t want to leave Verizon, despite them seeming to keep wanting to push me out, so I can only hope they stick to their word on this one. I actually like the quality of service– yes, it’s expensive, but it works, and my few years on AT&T (where dropped calls were the norm for me) taught me it’s better to pay for good service I can use than have cheap crappy service.

    • They know their service/network is the best, so that’s why they’re pulling all the BS they’re pulling. SMH.

    • kronikings

      Ditto! Thank you TB

  • epyon0

    Makes you wonder if this will affect full retail pricing at all. Especially other places that would sell phones off contract. & will they start to throttle LTE users?

  • Akuma

    “It is our goal and commitment to continue to provide customers with the same high value service they have come to expect from Verizon Wireless.”

    Then don’t take away services that offer customers value for their money. That is, if you actually believed this.

  • the only thing good about shared data for me is the other 3 people on my plan barely use any data, so i get to use a ton for myself

  • Benjamin Wilson

    The only way I can see slow turnover of scattered contract dates is with the first upgrade, you choose the lowest 2GB shared plan on that line only, then as each line upgrades, you move up the tiers accordingly. The suck factor is the CFO outright claimed this is a money maker, so don’t expect the new tiers to be more competitive.

  • guess i wont be upgrading anymore….

  • What a dumb move by Verizon. Why wouldn’t they want to do something like Sprint so they attract more people?

    • because they are greedy.

    • Tim242

      Sprint loses money every quarter. Their network is not up to par. Need I say more?

  • zenobia

    Yeah Verizon just rub it in you greedy corporate bastards!

  • MudRacer

    Im going to take this unlimited data to my grave.

    • EC8CH

      Your grandchildren’s grandchildren will be using your unlimited data!

    • rda990

      This litterally made me laugh out loud =D

    • bkosh84

      That raises a good point… What if you put in your will when you die that your children inherit your unlimited data plan, does Verizon have to acknowledge it? It is a legal binding document afterall… lol.

      • Anthony White

        I’m changing my will ASAP!

      • Ethan T

        Brings new meaning to the term “grandfathered” when you literally pass your unlimited contract down to your grandkids.

        • MudRacer

          Yes it does. Hopefully the unlimited gets passed on to 5G or 6G.

        • bazinga

        • landonius

          Ummm actually it just brings the original meaning to the term…

          • Ethan T

            You are correct, sir. It didn’t even occur to me.

          • Ethan T

            You are correct, sir. It didn’t even occur to me.

          • Ethan T

            You are correct, sir. It didn’t even occur to me.

          • Ethan T

            You are correct, sir. It didn’t even occur to me.

          • Ethan T

            You are correct, sir. It didn’t even occur to me.

          • Ethan T

            You are correct, sir. It didn’t even occur to me.

          • Ethan T

            You are correct, sir. It didn’t even occur to me.

      • michael

        All they have to do is keep paying your verizon bill and none is the wiser to whether you have passed on or not. Just make sure they have administration privileges to the account by you giving them the passcode. Verizon doesn’t check to see if you are alive or not, just so long as they get their money.

      • I used to work at a Verizon Wireless store and this came up once when I
        had a customer assume liability on their deceased father’s Datacard
        contract which still had an unlimited data plan. Unfortunately since the
        liability assumption process required the creation of a new account #
        it was impossible to transfer the grandfathered plan because the system
        wouldn’t issue a new account# with an invalid plan (and grandfathered
        plans are removed from the valid plan list). Unless they’ve made some
        major changes to the account management system (which is unlikely) then
        you would hit the same barrier trying to assume that smartphone line.

      • Michael Gilly

        You can sign your contract off to someone else. Dead people, however, have no legal rights (You can’t force a company to do something with a last will). When a person dies, a contract is (at least with wireless carriers) considered void.

    • Austin

      Me to

    • Kisuk3

      Amen!

    • brad

      Or just get rid of Verizon. Why support a company that is hell bent on giving us less and charging us more.

      • $$$

        because that describes every company in every retail/service sector.

        • PC_Tool

          …and they are the best network in many areas.

    • MudRacersParents

      Soon, we hope.

    • V.A. N.

      LOL!!! Looks like we’ll be in the same cemetary.

      • MudRacer

        Its possible the rest of D-L will be too.

    • 1MPR0BUS

      I’m taking it to my grave and now if Google goes with their current play of selling phones directly from the Play store doesn’t seem to bad. Guess we will just be paying out of pocket more for our devices.

      • unaffected

        Hopefully Google will be offering deals.

  • Jeff Stewart

    Now if only Google would sell CDMA Nexus phones through the play store THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!!!

    • That would indeed be awesome.

      • It would, and if they do, then that is the route I will be taking from now on.

        Pros:
        Keep unlimited data
        Not bound to a contract

        Cons:
        Pay unsubsidized price for handset

        Un-con:
        By that time (a year and a half from now) Verizon will have upped their subsidized flagship phone price to AT LEAST $399.99, which is what you can get an unlocked Nexus for right now

        Please carry a CDMA/LTE Nexus in the Play Store, Google… I beg of you

        • EC8CH

          If Google is going to carry CDMA/LTE phones, this is the best thing that could have happened for them.

          Ok, maybe not the best… but it will help push a lot of geeks with unlimited data their way.

        • RoninX

          Me too. It’s win-win-win!

          You get:
          – Unlimited data
          – The best LTE coverage
          – An unsullied Nexus phone with vanilla Android and fast updates

          Verizon gets
          – Customer loyalty
          – No phone subsidy costs ever

          Google gets
          – Reduced fragmentation
          – A better reputation for the Android experience

          • 1ofdakoolkidz

            Not going to happen, keep in mind that Verizon has to Ok any phone on their network, so why would they do this?

          • Rafy186

            My opinion exactly. It will not happen. Like I stated in my post, the best we can wish is that Google’s and Sprint’s relationship remains strong and Google decides to make CDMA/LTE devices that support both Verizon and Sprints frequencies.

          • They have to allow any phone that uses CDMA onto their network according to FCC regs. They may bitch about it, but they have to do it.

          • 1ofdakoolkidz

            Well, test out your theory, go get a sprint phone and tell them you want to use it and see how that works out for you. Let’s not forget that you are only talking about voice, what is the chance of data working and if all that gets accomplished let’s not forget about their Ace in the hole, The ESN which they will tell you is not working or make up some excuse they will find a technicality that’s why they have good lawyers on payroll.

          • 1ofdakoolkidz

            What should really happen, is that Google should create their own MVNO or buy T-mobile. They should take it completely out of the carriers hands!

          • unaffected

            But do they have to offer unlimited data if it is not bought through Verizon?

          • RoninX

            Why wouldn’t they? Verizon makes more money if they can hold on to subscribers while not having to pay subsidies to OEMs. Every subsidy payment comes out of their bottom line…

          • Everyone wins, except my wallet

        • mustbepbs

          Dear God..$400 for a smartphone? That’s the day that I’ll pass.

          • aaCharley

            That really is the point, isn’t it. We know that whatever subsidy is paid by Verizon on phone acquisition is recoverd from the price of the plan over the two year life of contract. So Verizon will agree to let you subsidize other’s phones by charging you the same rate, and the extra you pay for the phone is actually an add on for the Unlimited service. It becomes a “do it our way or pay about double for the data plan” program, and still be subject to getting throttled. Noice. Vury, vury Noice.

          • mustbepbs

            The ****? Down votes for not wanting to pay $400 subsidized? Screw you, people! You can have your off-contract purchases every 2 months.

          • Charles Rogers

            400 is unsubsidized.

          • mustbepbs

            Huh? His comment clearly states “Verizon will have upped their subsidized flagship phone price to AT LEAST $399.99”.

      • Austin

        How dose that benefit us, you have to take it to a carrier anyways, soon they will all have family shared plans

        • Sqube

          I see that people harshed on you, but I’ll explain: if you buy an unsubsidized phone (i.e. buy it directly from Google) and you already have an unlimited plan, VZW will not take it away from you. Also, consider the price of the GNex from the Play Store ($400). If the next generation Nexus matches that price, it won’t be that much more of a reach to get one of those, rather than take the $300 subsidized price from VZW and lose your unlimited data.

          That’s the benefit.

      • And it will also probably never happen. {{-_-}}

    • EC8CH

      THIS…

      and VZW should offer lower rates to customers buying phones at full retail price, but that’ll never happen.

      • shdowman

        “and VZW should offer lower rates to customers buying phones at full retail price”

        Ha…hahaha….hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha….wait….BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • Jake

      Hopefully this is the plan. Would also be cool if they use their open device portal and everything. Right now there is only ONE consumer oriented smartphone sorta device on it and I don’t think it is even actually available as it’s from some no name company that has apparently never got it into production.

      http://opennetwork.verizonwireless.com/deviceModuleDetails.aspx?showcase=devices&deviceId=334

      Technically you are already supposed to be able to go and buy random nonVZW marketed VZW compatible open devices off contract, but VZW controls the majority of devices sales AND CONFIGURATIONS(open or not) with their subsidy stuffs. Basically I am pretty sure the OEMs are asked to never offer open devices through that open device portal if they want any marketing help from VZW with subsidy offers and VZW marketing on other devices and such.

      This basically makes Google the only option as everyone else needs to sell massive quantities of devices somehow and would be restricted if they went this route as many or even most will still want their subsidy.

    • hopefully by then they’ll be able to figure out how to update them properly.

    • ebay.

    • Droosh

      Great, so we buy affordable Nexus devices for $400 from Google instead of $650 from Verizon – but then Verizon will never allow you to activate them on their network. They are holding us hostage!

    • AR

      4G phones work by transfering sim card between the devices same as in GSM devices i have a Gnexus and a razer maxx and i keep switching my sim card between both of them with no problem that means that when You buy any 4G LTE from Google all what you need to do is to use your existing sim in the new phone there is no CDMA control over the LTE phone any more.

  • RW-1

    I’d like a published list of those who told VZ they would like to share data!
    That is the biggest crock of $hit I’ve ever heard, ranks up there with moto saying they’ll unlock the bootloaders.
    I truly believe those were customers who wish to tether and “share” their unlimited data between devices they already have, not what VZ would love all of us to believe.

    • Tim242

      I worked at an at&t call center. Customers were always complaining about not being able to share data, or have data rollover, like on the voice plans. Most customers are light data users, or use mostly wifi. They don’t want a data plan on every line.

  • Akuma

    This is fine with me. I have my G-Nex, and in the next few years if I want a new phone, I will not take a subsidized one. Unlimited data is priceless.

    • actually its 30 bucks. woop! 🙂

    • FortitudineVincimus

      a $650 retail phone is about $700 OTD with tax. A $250 phone subsidized is about 270. $700 – 270 = $430 saved with subsidized phone & then from there you can run numbers to decide which is better based on how much data you “really” use once they give us the new tier pricing versus $30 unlimited per month.

      • tomn1ce

        Buying a phone at full price from a vendor other then verizon is going to be better then loosing unlimited data. Right now other then the double your data special they have been running. The family data share plan is not going to beat $30 for unlimited data. I prefer to pay full price to amazon.com or wirefly.com or any other vendor other then VZW where I can find a phone at a lower (full) price then what VZW is going to be charging for the device to the ones unwilling to give up our unlimited data.

      • Akuma

        I am not going to be buying brand new phones out of the box. I’ll wait and get one used. Not having the latest and greatest is a small price to pay for limitless data.

  • dashing

    I guess I will be buying new phones on ebay now..

  • Another reason to buy a phone from Google and keep the contract. #crossesfingers

  • KleenDroid

    This is good news for me, but I still think its a bunch of crap for most people. I doubt most people with multiple phones will want to pay full price for all their phones. Verizon knows most people will fall right into their long term plan because of finances. It’s fine by me though, I will simply buy my phones elsewhere and then activate them on my Verizon account.

  • Paying full price for a phone is cheaper for me than losing my data plan discounts. So, looks like I need to start saving for my next phone at full price, and use up what contracts I have currently available now or waste them.

  • Bert336

    yea sure unlimited data ….yet what they dont mention is that i am pretty sure they are going to be capping the 4G LTE speeds after a certain limit just like AT&T which will bring you to a 3g Crawl making the unlimited once again worthless..

    • Apostrafee

      I believe they already do

      • Adam Staggenborg

        Verizon can’t throttle 4g speeds (legally). That was one of the requirements when they bought the 700mhz band.

        • EC8CH

          That hasn’t stopped them from blocking Google Wallet.

        • Apostrafee

          Gotcha, so it’s the 3G they throttle

  • cheezer88

    from now on all my phones will be boughy on Swappa and Craigslist

    • hkklife

      Prepare for the street prices of new LTE Android phones on CL & Swapps to go through the roof in the coming months!

    • Maxim

      I have been out of contract for over 4 years and only buy phones from ebay/craiglist. I know the phone will not be the “newest”, but a sligthly older gen phone works for me!

  • potacho

    Whelp, I guess I won’t be buying my phones from Verizon anymore.

    • Benjamin Wilson

      You can always buy phones from Swappa.com, unfortunately your bill doesn’t go down. You are still paying for all the other subsidized phones on the network.

  • LoyalCustumer

    Uff now I’m more relax !