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Google CEO Larry Page: Steve Job’s Differences With Android Were For Show

Thermonuclear war.” I believe that was the quoted distance Steve Jobs was willing to go to “right this (Android) wrong.” As it may turn out, the late Steve Job’s hate for Google’s operating system could have simply been for show. In an interview with Bloomberg’s Business Week, Google’s CEO Larry Page discussed his relationship with the late Jobs before he passed away:

I think the Android differences were actually for show. I had a relationship with Steve. I wouldn’t say I spent a lot of time with him over the years, but I saw him periodically. Curiously enough, actually, he requested that meeting. He sent me an e-mail and said: “Hey, you want to get together and chat?” I said, “Sure, I’ll come over.” And we had a very nice talk. We always did when we had a discussion generally.

He was quite sick. I took it as an honor that he wanted to spend some time with me. I figured he wanted to spend time with his family at that point. He had a lot of interesting insights about how to run a company and that was pretty much what we discussed.

We can imagine Steve being quite worked up over something like Android in the beginning, but I think near the end, Jobs had more important things on his mind besides blowing all of Apple’s cash on destroying Android. Now that Apple has a new healthy and fearless leader in Tim Cook, we can look forward to future lawsuits and drama surrounding these two tech giants.

What is your take on it? Could Jobs’ hate for the Android OS been partially exaggerated to sell some books?

Via: Bloomberg

  • Jdingleberry

    Steve jobs has saved lives. Windows was BASED off of macs! If steve jobs never made those things what would we use now? He’s the reason of technology.

  • Tatsuo

    Whether the Apple vs. (big name tech company here) war was ever sincere or show, I enjoyed the game.  It would be like 1988 Tyson / Spinks just showing up one day on HBO boxing and fighting without any notice or weigh-in drama etc…  I love that crap  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=674902817 Zach Davis

    Steve Jobs was brilliant when it came to finding out what the consumer wanted and how to market it to them best. Taking something so trivial and making people think that they can’t live without it. Easiest example is when the iPad came out. Before it even came out, everyone thought it was stupid since it was just a blown up iPhone, and when Steve showed it out, it wasn’t widely viewed as a good idea. But after being out in the market, everyone changed their view and realized that once they had it, they couldn’t live without it. Kids in 3rd world countries who knew nothing electronic could easily pick up the device and know what to do within minutes. That’s the genius that is Steve Jobs.

    But that’s not to say he wasn’t crazy… heh. All the drugs he did, the way he treated his family and co-workers, and other things was terrible. He’s a huge dick for doing all of that and more. But he still has my respect for knowing what to do and how to do it. But I’ll still never buy an Apple product again =P (Only thing I’ve owned though were iPods)

  • romma

    Boy, considering he sued Google at practically every turn, if true it was quite a show indeed. 

  • baobao112
  • bogy25

    F jobs and F apple

  • http://www.haiensheng.com/#cid-discus Eric Hansen

    Definitely, Steve was not above pulling these kinds of moves for the good of the business. It’s impressive on one hand and sad for humanity on the other.

    • SolipsisticPsychologist

      The last part of your statement rings the most true, indeed.

  • Master O’Disaster

    Considering the amount of money in court that Apple is spending, along with the new and continued attacks, and the risks involved for all parties, there is no way that this Steve Jobs did this “for show”. On the other hand, Larry Page’s comments (which Steve Jobs can’t refute now), seem definitely “for show”. [PS: I only own Android products, and despise what Apple is doing with their Patent Wars (TM)]. When I read this Larry Page blurb, I thought it sounded ridiculous. Maybe it’s another Google April Fool’s joke?

  • thereasoner

    To sell some books? possibly. To motivate employees? likely. As a marketing ploy to whip isheep into a frenzy and to manipulate the naive consumer? most definitely!

  • Jamdev12

    Is one thing for Larry to say this about Steve. You don’t want to rile up the avalanche of critism that would come of it if he said anything otherwise. Apple to me is the worst f’ing company that will try to win a band on all Android phones and they will do it. Even though there is a huge market around Android the patent system with how f’ed up it is will give Apple the green light to exercise its multi touch patent and will make life a living hell for Android manufacturers by making unreasonable demands for how much that should cost. They slowly will eat away at them, until there are so many royalties to pay, that companies caring Android would drop it completely.

  • Goldenpins

    sound like they want to change peoples perspective on him. he was known to be a douche-bag, rude to employees and it was always his way..Im trying to keep the naming calling down but its very known he acted that way.  Yes, he built an empire that came out of left field and brought Apple into the limelight. That shouldn’t be a reason to forget his negative traits or things he said and did. 

  • https://plus.google.com/104242241965716988815 boo Jay

    Let’s replace “hate” with “jealousy” and I think it was VERY real.

  • D3 wins

    he was a great man, he strided for perfection. although there products are very expensive they are perfect. android has more features, apple is higher quality with the few featers it has, steve was the most intelligent man in the world. he was sometimes a douche but only to improve his masterful inventions

    • Raven

      He was a very successful businessman, but he was far from “the most intelligent man in the world”.  He just knew how to force good stuff out of other people.  Stephen Hawking and many other scientists and engineers are far more intelligent than he ever was.

    • SolipsisticPsychologist

      I would say people who have cured horrible diseases and progressed medicine, and others like Einstein, might just be about a thousand steps above Steve Jobs as the most intelligent person ever in my book. It’s quite disturbing in our recent times that someone would bestow that title to something and someone in the world of materialism, and not say philosophy, religion, science, academics, medicine, etc…

  • Thanassi

    No question. Drama sells. The Android-Apple faboi wars is a nerd version of the East Coast – West Coast rap feud. There will always be casualties but the big wigs love it because they make all the money. Steve Jobs wasn’t stupid. I’m sure he took notes one what to steal from Android. Just like he stole GUI design cues from Xerox in the 80s for Macintosh.

    “Good artists borrow, Great artists steal” – Steve Jobs, 1997

    • SolipsisticPsychologist

      Very good post, and I must say, your avatar picture in it’s small state, makes you out to look very similar in facial features to the actor “Steve-O”.

      • Thanassi

        I don’t know if that’s a diss or a compliment lol.

  • bakdroid

    Screw Jobs and Apple. They might sell a lot if products, but they know nothing when it comes to business ethics.

  • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

    >> What is your take on it? Could Jobs’ hate for the Android OS been partially exaggerated to sell some books?

    No. But I don’t think he hated the Android OS so much, neither. The thing is, a corporation is a beast. When the top of a corporation said something like “I hate Android”, even if he didn’t mean it, someone below his level pick that up, together with their own interpretation. Then some more people below that level pick up even more, and add even more of their own interpretation. At the end, not even the top could control it because that hatred became a corporate culture. No one in the corporation would dare to stand up and say the otherwise because, “hey, everybody around you say they hate that other thing out there competing with us, and is destined to put us all out to work!”

    Jobs passed away did not change this culture, but it gave the new management an excuse to drive away from that hatred.

  • master94

    Steve jobs told Larry Page to cancel all of google’s side projects and focus on one goal, that goal being google Plus. Anyone else feel like he is just trying to mess with Page in these meeting, hoping google Plus would occupy all of Google’s time, resulting in Android falling?

    • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

      I don’t think so, because that’s Jobs style — that’s the way he believed things should work. That doesn’t necessarily mean it’s right. It’s just that he believed so. In addition, he did have a point because FaceBook is stealing traffic from Google, which is the core profit center of Google. Put it this way, Google can afford to lose the mobile OS war. At the end of it, as long as people visit Google, it will still make money. But loosing traffic to FaceBook is a death sentence to Google. Just look at Yahoo!

  • New_Guy

    It just seems of ill effect since these comments are…well…post mortem, so to speak.

    Seems there’s no point in Page trying to clean up comments he didn’t make…

    • SolipsisticPsychologist

      That was one of my very first thoughts. Regardless of who Jobs was, it’s stupid to speculate at things he can’t reiterate or talk on. Plus I would tend to just go by what was in his biography that he himself approved, and it wasn’t vague what he said. But alas, people will always try to spin things.

  • brando56894

    I could definitely see how it was blown out of proportion to sell stuff, but I do believe he didn’t like Android. He could very well be a giant douchebag when he was at Apple but outside of it he could have been an awesome guy. Look at Bill Gates, while he was the Chairman and CEO of Microsoft he was the king of assholes, once he stepped down you got to see the caring, philanthropic nice guy that he actually is.

  • trumpet444

    Take that trash to a different website. There are young android fans that visit here

  • Michael_NM

    I don’t ever want to see that picture here again.

  • trumpet444

    I don’t mind Apple to SOME extent. I actually love OSX. It’s iOS that gets on my nerves, and I can semi-tolerate it on an ipad but when I needed to do something fairly basic with the file system that any android 1.5+ phone can do, it irritated the crap out of me. Obviously, I don’t own an ipad anymore. (and yes, even while jailbroken it lacked basic functions)

    • Azndan4

      That’s funny. I tolerate and respect iOs but despise osx. IPhones are easy to use. Osx is quite difficult to use.

    • Vonny571

       I wish I could like this 1000 times. My family was given an Ipad for Christmas and while it’s a great toy for browsing and playing some games, many tasks that are fast and easy on my android phone are next to impossible to complete on the Ipad.

  • http://twitter.com/HowdyFellers Inspector Butters

    suicide nets. that is all.

  • Liderc

    I’m sure some of it was for show, I mean it put Apple’s name in the news which was Job’s main goal and achievement.

  • Justfarted

    You know what’s wrong? When you eat a girl out then you realize that she has blue waffle!

  • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

    iRage for nothing? dawww

  • WhoaManWtF

    I think it is hilarious to read the comments from before and after his passing, even the same people completely changed their tunes. It takes a much stronger man to stand by their opinion than the change it with the masses.

    • Droidzilla

      I thought he was a douchebag before and I still think he was a douchebag.

    • Ken_P_619

      On the contrary, I think it takes a bigger man to realize that maybe their biased judgement of someone may have been ill created because of a “phone rivalry.”  Something as tragic as death can do that sometimes. You can still have a strong opinion about how he lead the company, but it isn’t flip flopping if you are just paying the man respect. For you to continue to dislike Jobs for something as small as a phone operating system, seems like a petty issue, not like a “strong man”.

  • Guest

    Steve Jobs was a thief and a crook. If you believe this man was good then you are clearly miss-informed. Anyone that has researched his biography would know he was a drug taking hippie, that piggy backed his way off other peoples talent only to take all the credit. He was nothing short of terrible as he worked engineers and coders alike to long slave-like hours. All the while, pitting themselves against each other to get a better product.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jonathanf Jonathan Fingas

      He was talented, mostly in long-term ideas and in product focus — there’s a difference between that and being a nice person.

      Most of the industry is full of “nice” people who are so afraid of offending someone or of taking a risk that they’re more interested in forming upbeat-sounding alliances that don’t do anything and focus-grouping products until they please no one.  Think Microsoft or RIM.

      That’s not to excuse some of what Jobs did in his personal life, by any means, but it’s still true that the Mac, iPad, iPod, and iPhone often had their basic ideas and some of their final touches driven by his mindset.

    • http://peoplewho.tumblr.com wireless G

      Comments like this, that critique Apple and Jobs because he was a “drug taking hippie” among other things, make me embarrassed to be part of the Android community. I dislike Apple’s business philosophy and I have never bought even one of their products, but I don’t do it because one of its founders dropped acid in the freaking 1970s. That would probably be the weakest possible reason to reject Apple I’ve ever heard, and there are so many real, important reasons.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Buck/100003482949493 Joe Buck

    I am not into all this” hate apple love android” or vise versa, they do the same things, just go about it differently, apple will never destroy andoid not will android ever destroy apple, its good to have competition,makes both better, I own both,dont hate either

  • Ken_P_619

    I think we make up a lot of that hype.  People loved to pit Jobs vs. Android because it seemed to be an easy fight to match up. 2 tech giants going at each other…only one survives! It’s why sports are so popular, you get behind one team and cheer like crazy for them.  It splits the world into 2 groups, android vs. iOS and it stirs up competition, people bump heads and argue, and all that really does is helps phone sales.  Android was created as an alternative to Jobs’ baby, so as android fans, we can’t but help pay the man the respect he deserves.  I’m sure some of the Jobs vs. Android stuff was real, but some of it had to be exaggerated.

    • SolipsisticPsychologist

      Yeah, his own words from his approved biography about wanting to destroy Android, no that’s just semantics I’m sure.

  • Droidzilla

    “Steve Jobs’ [insert anything here] was for show.”

    ftfy, Larry.

    • iWebDroidBerry7

      Can you point on the doll where exactly Jobs touched you? A lot of hate for someone you DON’T KNOW AT ALL.

  • Jason Roberts

    For all the vitriolic language we lobbed at Apple and the stuff that he lobbed right back, Steve Jobs was a pioneer. Regardless of our affinity for the Android OS, I think we have a lot to thank him for.

  • http://twitter.com/wh1te_mag1c John Doe

    I think Steve Jobs was a bit conflicted. I guess the iPhone might have been his proudest accomplishment and he could not bear to think that an OS by Google could come out of nowhere and take over as the leader. At the same time, Steve wasn’t stupid, as evidenced by him being capable of meeting up with Larry Page and having a civil conversation. 

    • Ray

      Unlike iphone users…

      • Droidzilla

        And GNex, WP7, and Symbian users, it seems.

        • RadicalPie

          Gnex?

        • Ekknr

          There might not be a group out there that is more intolerable than the Galaxy Nexus owners…

          • Stefanie

            Care to elaborate as to what exactly you mean by that?

          • Droidzilla

            These comment sections used to be full of useful information, banter, and general helpfulness. Now it’s full of GNex fanbois hating on other products (mainly Motorola ones) and talking up their device like the Second Coming. Been here since the OG days, and nothing makes me want to stop participating more.

          • SolipsisticPsychologist

            I strongly agree with you, and it’s quite disappointing, that and the loss of all the cool stuff that used to be posted like new eye live wallpapers.

  • Michael Forte

    Steve Jobs was a marketing genius.

    • brando56894

      That one I’ll give you.

    • New_Guy

      Can’t exactly argue with that. Anyone who can take something old and convince people it’s new should definitely be considered a marketing genius. That’s actually not a poke at Jobs by the way…it’s simply the truth; the man knew how to sell sand to a person in a sand storm…

    • http://Twitter.com/ContestsAccount bigrob60

      Apple’s marketing team is second only to that of the tobacco industry. 

  • Dan

    I dont care if you hate apple, Steve Jobs was the man

    • Droidzilla

      If by “the man” you mean “a total douchebag who hoarded his money and stood on the shoulders of The Woz all while being a petty tool,” I completely agree.

      • DanSke02

         Agreed. It really urks me when people give him such praise. Clearly, if they read his biography or even studied his character they would see otherwise. He was a college dropout, a drug taker, a horrible father, a thief and a terrible person to work for.

        • http://www.droid-life.com Tim-o-tato

          So, casting stones at Jobs? No one is perfect. You don’t become the leader of a cult without breaking some rules :P

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Travis-Erickson/563313398 Travis Erickson

            I see what you did there

          • DanSke02

            I guess so! Well, I don’t find his Apple juice quite as sweet as others might say it is. Haha

          • Jason Purp

             You’re right. Being a terrible father for your entire life is just one of those small mistakes that we all make in life.

          • http://www.droid-life.com Tim-o-tato

            I don’t see your point. Did I say that? lol

          • Jason Purp

            No, you didn’t literally say that it was a small mistake, but still. You were basically defending what Jobs did. Maybe I should have used a different sarcastic comment.

          • PartyInMyPants

            Why don’t you change the name of this site to “Apple Hater Life” and get it over with?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gilbert-Estrada/100000308267656 Gilbert Estrada

             First, because Apple would sue for using their trademarked name in a less than worshipful manner.

            Second, because hating Apple isn’t the main point of the site, no matter what you might want to believe.

            Lighten up, Francis. Apple doesn’t need you to white knight for them.

          • summit1986

            Nice Stripes reference.

        • http://www.facebook.com/jonathanf Jonathan Fingas

          The truth is between the two.

          Yes, he did all those bad things.  But he also forced people to aim for the best, even if that meant cancelling a project right before it would be announced or completely remaking it.  It’s Jobs’ mentality that helped avoid the “meh, good enough” attitude that has doomed a lot of Apple’s rivals.

          Compare him to Sanjay Jha. Motorola’s CEO may be championing an open platform and device choice, but his company produces a lot of crap.  He wants “differentiation” solely to make Motorola devices unique.  Jobs was only concerned about making it better, whether that involved being different or not. That’s why even Google considers him a tech legend, while Jha is likely going to be replaced by a Google exec and have most of his ideas overridden as soon as the Google-Motorola merger closes.

          • Droidzilla

            No, the truth is closer to him being a douchebag. Don’t believe me; check out the scale:

            Douchebag [--|-----------------] Innovator

          • http://peoplewho.tumblr.com wireless G

            Why are the two on opposite ends of the scale? I think that’s usually the same end.

          • iWebDroidBerry7

            What does his personality have to do with his achievements at all. There is no correlation at all between the two. I personally think your a douchebag. But it doesn’t mean you can’t be a successful one.

            Now continue to troll along.

          • E A butler

            We live in a time where we get to see all sides of our “Heroes”.  Steve Jobs built a great legacy for himself, but he stepped on a lot of toes to make it happen. He was a really messed up man , who seemed to only give a damn about himself…..so there are a few people like me who cannot stand him…. 

          • Thanassi

            Every hugely successful man is a douche-bag. You HAVE to be in order to be on top of your game.

          • Noyfb

            his personality, like his moral fiber? The guy was fired from his own company at one time because he was that much of douche-bag.  Jobs exercised censorship and authoritarianism.

            http://www.forbes.com/sites/quickerbettertech/2011/10/10/steve-jobs-was-a-jerk-good-for-him/ 

          • DanSke02

            Good points all around. I agree, that he was a good motivated, but his tactics and how he went about things is what bothers me. Granted, he will go down as a tech legend, but I believe he isn’t worthy of such a title. I measure a man by his character, rather than his success. There is much more truth in that.

          • Towelie420

            He will go down alright..
            Steve blowJobs

          • http://techonblogger.ward.pro/ TechRumblings

            Jonathan, I gotta disagree with you.  Apple puts out a lot of simplistic stuff which is just another form of ‘good enough’.  Have you tried to work with iCloud?   As of the last time I used it, the body of email was not searchable and calendar items were not searchable.  That’s email and calendaring on training wheels.  It looks pretty, but that’s partially because it doesn’t do much.  Compared with Google’s offerings, its really kinda of shameful.  

            Same thing with iOS.  Really great design – much more basic usage options.  I am not saying it isn’t well suited for most people, I am just saying that for Jobs and crew, good enough = fewer options = less complicated software and less headaches.

            I think I read a quote where Jobs told Zukerberg that “The key to success as a CEO is to cut out the sh*t you don’t need”.  That is sooooo what Apple does, and people think Apple are all about doing things right when really they are about doing fewer things that don’t lend themselves to the problems that arise with complexity.

            I have an iPhone 4S and an iPad 3 and the apps crash more than on my Android devices.  However, Android seems to have a harder time recovering from crashed apps. and often needs a power-cycle to get back up and running efficiently.  iOS devices seem ready to go within seconds.

          • Liderc

            Great post.  You’ve really explained Apples flaws and why a lot of Android users have a problem when people say “My iphone just works!”, well of course it does because it barely does anything.  

            It’s not really a bad thing though, the majority don’t need a lot of options, they like being spoon fed and Jobs knew it.  That’s why he was successful, he understood what the public wanted and he presented it well.  

          • Jason Purp

            Every iPhone ever released besides the first one was “meh, good enough.”

        • Jason Purp

           You get it. I’m giving you an e-high five.

          • DanSke02

             e-high five received.

            Thank you. Glad someone else sees it. ;)

        • http://peoplewho.tumblr.com wireless G

          Yeah, I also hate all the “drug takers,” they’re awful people, though that may explain why my music collection is so small. Mostly just the Osmonds.

        • http://twitter.com/Lancer033 Keith Hollis

           i wouldn’t suggest using him as a role model for how to be a father, but if you’re looking for a role model for how to run a business, there is no one better.

          • Vonny571

             I disagree, but Jobs’ business strategy doesn’t fit within my ethical system.

          • SolipsisticPsychologist

            Glad to see this comment and others, that show people still care about and know what is most important in life. Values, morals, and ethics prove a man’s worth a lot more than the size of his paycheck. I’m glad that there are those here who see the true worth in that :-) . At the end of the day and the end of my life, I’d rather be satisfied with those core attributes, and everything I achieved or had in life is only secondary.

        • Towelie420

          “Umm, drugs are bad, mmmkay?” – Mr. Mackey
          I can’t believe you said “drug taker”.

    • KevinC

      No, the people who are “the man” are the engineers working 18 hour days to design and develop the things he gets all the credit for.

      • DanSke02

         Preach it. These are the true innovators.

    • trumpet444

      Except for the iOS dictator and hippie part of him

    • Michael_NM

      It’s likely that most of us who “hate” Apple, do so because of Jobs.