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Wednesday Poll: Does it matter to you that mobile Flash is dead?

Adobe announced a couple of months ago that its mobile version of Flash would no longer be developed for and that it was essentially dead. At one time, mobile Flash was one of the #1 selling points for Android phone manufacturers. Once Froyo hit, you couldn’t turn around without seeing Moto or HTC or Verizon bragging about the “full web” thanks to Adobe Flash. Now that those days are all but over and major apps like Chrome will not have mobile Flash, we are wondering if it matters to anyone. The web is moving more and more towards HTML5 and according to our poll yesterday, folks have decided that apps without Flash might be more valuable compared to those that have it. So let us know, will you miss Flash?

Wednesday Poll: Does it matter to your that mobile Flash is dead?

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  • Noonenobody

    I “was” a flash developer, but really for video its garbage compared to integrated hardware accelerated video.  I do not miss it.

  • Interesting read:

    Not really a read, mostly graphical.

  • Anonymous

    poll is misleading.

    flash isn’t dead, it’s just not being developed any farther for mobile. I couldn’t care less that I won’t receive another update to mobile flash, but I do enjoy that flash is available.

  • Anonymous

    Does it seriously matter that much to all of you? Wow.

  • Raven

    As much as I hate to have to use it, there are still some sites that I need to use that use flash as part of their UI.  So, not daily, but it is still very nice to have when you need it.

  • Deiler

    I don’t care for Flash, and HTML5 is way better.  My problem is that support for flash is ending before HTML5 is fully adopted.

  • Anonymous

    Should be “I could *NOT* care less.”  Anyway, it just seems that flash slows down pages. I’m excited to see it go.

  • Mylesh55

    do any of us use flash everyday? No, that’s a bad poll because it should have an in between. Flash on android is one of the major staples that has sold probably 50% of android phones to people that are the common user that were considering iPhones. If later phones completely drop flash I promise you android will lose a large chunk of common users cause they want flash.

    I don’t even understand why adobe would stop support in the first place. Android is Linux based and the code for flash player is the same for Ubuntu on PC and its still being built and updated. So truly as long as that exists I’m sure a smart developer on XDA will always have flash for us 🙂

    • Anonymous

      Majority of both Android and iOS users are everyday window-lickers and don’t know what Flash is.  They get one phone or the other based on TV ads and what their friends have.  Not every Android user is as tech-savvy as the rest of us and read forums on what is and isn’t supported on various platforms. 

  • i have my phone set so that flash just shows a blank box and if i want to see it, i click it and it downloads and to be honest, it doesn’t come up very often.  Like it or not, Steve Jobs was right about flash, the technology is crap and needs to die off, fortunately, it slowly is.

  • Migamix

    HTML5 is not even finalized, we have no video standard anyone can agree on.. yet we are being told “you don’t need flash” {waves hand}… fine… then open source what is needed to build a flash viewer… so we have the choice just in case… I do see some sites like YouTube have the ability to have html5 only… but I set mine for this a year ago… and it switched back to flash… if I need flash on my desktop… I will need it on my phone… as my phone IS my computer away from home…

    • As time moves on mobile devices may entirely replace personal pc’s for light users.  Especially if connecting a mobile device to a larger resolution screen, and input devices becomes easier for people.  Meaning to some extent like you mentioned people may expect more from their mobile device in the future.

  • Anonymous

    Its nice to be able to watch flash videos that don’t have an html 5 view option, other than that its not a big deal.

  • Joshua Dudash

    I’ll continue to use a flash enabled browser until the HTML 5 based browsers can figure out how to run content on websites that require flash. 🙂

  • Keep in mind a lot of flash content will be ported over the Adobe AIR runtime.  So though the flash player in your browser may be deprecated you can still find great flash content (most likely mostly games) packaged as air applications.  The idea is to go native instead of through your browser.  Just like many of the html/js apps you already use that are wrapped as native applications. Many of the adobe apps that you can install on your phone were written using the flash platform.

    •  Just like Microsoft’s failed Silverlight? AIR is a joke.

      • Feel free to defend your assertion.

        • For one, people DO NOT like change. Have you actually gone and read the comments for applications that require AIR to be installed? People uninstall immediately when it comes up that to run this app you have to install another. Im not saying its not functional, just that when it comes to public absorbancy I do not think it will ever catch on. People use Flash because its been around for a long time. When a new add-on is introduced, to get that add-on adopted by the masses is a great feat.

          • I agree about reception.  Have no idea how it’ll play out with consumers.  There is an option to embed the air runtime with your app, however at the cost of adding bulk.  I’m testing the waters with air on mobile, but because of the way adobe announced dropping the mobile browser flash player I’m also testing with haxe, and native.  I would like for air to succeed but time will have to do it’s thing and see how this will play out.  I’m hoping that similar to the browser version of flash, air might be propelled by exclusive and engaging content.  I hope to be one of those pushing some of the content.

  • Chris G

    First off, I’m loving CfA. It is changing the way I use my phone and TFP for surfing.  

    I do wish it could fully replace the stock browser, but still too many sites have flash or are based fully on flash.

  • Anonymous

    nope, been using chrome for a few days now and i’ve yet to come across a video that i can’t play.  Flash can go away now, bring on html5.

  • 24 hours on Chrome and I’ve had to resort to stock for flash support 4 times.  meh.

  • edward x

    I wanted to point out that you can still view youtube videos on chrome beta directly. though it is still buggy. go to youtube.com/html5 and click on join html5 trial. the youtube videos won’t load initially, but if you click and play around with the play bar, your video will load. again it’s buggy.

  • Actually, I care about Flash a lot. Anyone who says Flash is dead probably only visits YouTube for video. Several sites I enjoy visiting daily serve Flash video only. Remember, folks: Adobe didn’t kill mobile development because web devs were no longer using Flash, it did so because of the difficulty of getting Flash to work with the myriads of mobile devices out there. Read their announcement blog post again if you don’t believe me.

  • Porn

    Come on guywe all know we use flash for porn 90 percent of the time otherwise its useless-thats why we dont have i hones

  • Tyler

    I’m ok with it dying but it just needs to fall out of existence. Its slowly dying right now, i just want it dead. Where is the button to convert all web to HTML5? Its good for watching videos from sites that aren’t YouTube but that’s its. Its slow, laggy, is mostly ads, and its awkward. With all that said, its still installed on my phone.

  • Anonymous

    I love using flash on my phone so I can have flash pop up ads blow up my phone’s screen.

    /end sarcasm.

  • Jslafarr

    Guess I’ll trade in my gnex for an iphone..
    Never liked this thing anyway.

  • Tom

    I barely use flash. Really, its not a huge deal for me. At the end of the day, I use my phone for a hand full of sites, and most flash content I use is video which can be viewed using skyfire. Is flash nice to have, just in case? Sure, but it isn’t a requirement for me anymore. I realized ho little I actually use it.

  • I need it… I need to watch my starcraft 2 GSL and Twitch.tv streams!!!

  • Staticx57

    I very rarely so I voted that I could care less

    But not that much less…

  • flash is the reason i dont want an iphone

  • Anon I. Mouse

    Sites that use Flash aren’t going to disappear overnight for HTML5. So I like having the option to use it whenever I want/ need to. But I thought the time would come when our mobile devices would be able to run a desktop style browser(I thought this is what Chrome was supposed to be, with Desktop Flash embeded) and so we would still have flash-because it is only the mobile platform going away.

  • Rain_king46

    Adobe is being arrogant and is basically begging developers to replace flash

  • Anonymous

    I have to chime in on this. As a Flash developer i’ll definitely admit i’m bias on the topic and hate to see that it is on its way out the door. But it’s not gone yet, at least not until Chrome beta appeared yesterday. but that’s technology, the next best thing is on its way (already here?), yes its HTML5.

    As far as Flash on the web is concerned, it’s still going to be supported for PC browsers and mobile apps. see article at link below. it’s specifically losing focus in the realm of mobile browsing. Which brings me to Adobe AIR. Its like the step sister no one really talks about or even knows is there. Its already on your phone probably and you didn’t realize it. That’s how i package my apps. I build in Flash, or Flash Builder, and package the apk which is interpreted by adobe AIR, not Flash.Besides, in this article you’ll read more on Adobe true intentions are more then just “killing Flash”.


    This one is a great layout of the commitments from Adobe. Flash for PC is on. Flash Professional is coming out still with a CS6 version this year. Adobe AIR for Mobile is on. 

    Sorry, i just had to try to clear somethings up. Flash is not dead!

  • DroidFlash

    I like having the option to use it if i need to.

  • Logan_jinx

    You really need to offer a third option like “I don’t use it regularly but I like to have it when it’s needed ” because that can actually throw off your results

  • Azndan4

    The screenshot is so pixelated. Is it from a bionic?

  • Anonymous

    As a designer i want to rid of it. Other technologies are surfacing and being implemented that will eventually kill flash. Browsers on phones are the most up to date and standard compliant pieces of software used for internet browsing. We should be taking advantage of that. Now if we could just get everyone in the world to realize updating their browser should be apart of their daily life if they actually have a computer they use to browse the internet. Oh the headaches with cross browser compliant code.

  • Kuboo99

    It sort of matters to me.

  • There is less of a reason for me to stick with android now that mobile flash will not be supported in the future on a lot of the phones. I use the web browser on my phone a lot and almost all of the websites I visit use flash for displaying content.

  • Anonymous

    I have faith that Google Chrome on android will get flash support

  • Anonymous

    Flash is not DEAD and won’t be no time soon. The beauty of android is choice and today me and my galaxy nexus chose flash plain and simple. Ics supports flash our next operating system won’t i will deal with that then. Flash will last forever one way or another

    • Anonymous

      You’ve got to be joking me right? Flash is pretty much dead. The fact that Apple hasn’t supported it for years, the fact that it was BARELY supported on ICS, and only after customer outrage I might add, the fact that Adobe has flat out stated no more Flash for ANY mobile devices… Yeah, Flash is dying. Also, way to contradict yourself. You can’t say Flash won’t be supported on the next Android OS and then say “Flash will live forever”, because clearly, it won’t “live forever” if it won’t be supported “forever”. Dumbass.

  • El Cap

    Nope.  The reasons to stick with Android are dwindling. Fast. Chrome to ICS and not GB was the nail in the Google coffin for me.

    • …ok?  Then why in the hell are you still on this website?  Why do you think we care if you have moved on from Google’s phones?

  • This is a stupid poll.  Why does it have to be either care less or use it daily?  I care, but I certainly don’t use it daily.

  • Jon

    Yes it matters to me, in that it’s death should be hastened. When I had my iPad, I was very pleasantly surprised at how well the HTML 5 video experience was. I was also dissapointed when I switched to an Android tablet, that the experience with HTML 5 video was way behind, and that Android browser liked to load Flash whenever possible instead of HTML 5. 

    I then switched my browser User Agent on my Android tablet to iPad, and was able to enjoy some HTML 5 video. My experience is that it runs smoother, zooms to full screen easier, easier to control play, pause, and fast forward. 

    So I’ve been very happy at the announcement that Flash is essentially dead going forward on mobile platforms. It needs to die, and a quick transition to HTML 5 video is what’s needed. Not a prolonged, drug out transition. 

    Bring on HTML 5 video, and lets finally do away with Flash. 

    (on another note, as a graphic designer that has spent many hours on flash, I’m happy to see it go) 

    “We are the future Charles, not them.” …Magneto

  • Dliuzzo110

    I don’t get it. How else do you watch embedded videos?

  • trumpet444

    While I didn’t use Flash every day, the option of being able to is the important part. Some people don’t use Bluetooth every day, some don’t use the Nav function or Voice search every day…..but the important part is being able to when you want. It is sad to see Flash mobile die.

  • Will

    the majority of webpages use flash, flash should still be an option.  simple as that…html5 talk is just talk, its not the standard, and is so far away from being the standard.  Give me my flash please!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t care until I run into a site I can’t view without it. Flash will be relevant as long as flash content exists on the internet. It sucks but it’s true. No one really likes flash, but running into content I can’t view more than I hate flash.

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  • Anonymous

    “I could care less.” Haha, even a 10 yr. old would know that this is bad grammar.

  • Anonymous

    For the majority of my browsing I don’t use Flash. I don’t watch much video on my phone due to battery life concerns, and don’t use my tablet much (since Android still isn’t great on the Touchpad).

    That being said, I still wish it was being developed. I love choice, and having the choice to use Flash was a big selling point for me. But at the same time it was obvious that Adobe didn’t have the chops to get Flash running really well on Android. In fact, the only platform I can say Flash runs on without much issue is Windows.

  • Myfacetube

    i don’t really want it to be dead because that would mean fapple was right :/

  • Anonymous

    This isn’t that big of a deal unless you watch porn on your phone everyday of your life.

    • TC Infantino

      Two things really…1) There is flash content on quite a few news sites I like to read.  2) What is so wrong with porn?

  • Anonymous

    Whatever the standard may be i really dont care. As long as my gnex can run anything on the page im covered.

  • Anonymous

    What about my porn!!!!!

  • Jordan Webb

    I don’t really care much, but I could care less.

    And I was totally serious and correct in the above typing.

  • Anonymous

    I care because allthough html5 is the future, its not the present. As long as many sites still use flash, it shouldn’t be abandoned on android! Its a HUGE contrast with iCrap!!!

  • Manuel Olague

    There should be an option that says “for right now yes, but when HTML5 takes over I couldn’t care less”

  • Frankly, I wish desktop Flash would go away as well. It’s time, and we all need to admit it.

    I know, I know, people will say that HTML5 is not ready for multimedia yet, but that is only because we have Flash as a fallback. I bet if Flash died tonight, HTML5 will be ready by the morning.

  • Anonymous

    Content providers will start making the change once ICS w/Chrom is standard, if not before then.  They can’t afford to lose iOS and Android users.  So it’s just a matter of time, especially as people upgrade their phones over the next year or two.

  • tjmonkey15

    No flash means no stupid flash ads which means faster load times on a mobile browser…

    • Tim242

      Ignorance must be bliss. If you set it to “on demand only” it only shows flash content when you click it.

  • Anonymous

    Also remember, flash is not disappearing from the market.. just won’t be anymore updates

    • Tim242

      Actually, they are still updating for performance and bugs.

  • Anonymous

    I prefer my porn on a big screen & I don’t play any games, so take it or leave it, I voted no. Once it finally got pretty bug free(for me anyway) I obviously started using it more often but no hair off my sack that it’s dead. Always had it set to “on demand” anyway.

  • Anonymous

    I use it daily. Various websites still use flash and when my friends try to load a site with their iphone I love laughing at them and loading on my D3G 🙂 I think it’s pressure from Cupertino being 1 upped and they got paid…

  • Flash ran like garbage on every single phone I’ve ever used, besides advertisements. So, what’s the point of even having it?

  • Ahku Droid

    It is a huge benefit to Android.  The irony, of course, being now that devices are strong enough to handle Flash with little trouble, Adobe decided to stop support.  I think this is a planning fail for their business.  They just didn’t wait long enough and gave up too early.

  • I eventually won’t care, but I kinda do now.

  • I think when Froyo came out it was a lot more relevant, but Flash is dying out slowly across the web, nevermind mobile. 

  • Flash is a dying technology on desktops as well. I can’t wait for this thing to die.

  • Anonymous

    Flash sucks (on mobile), long live anything else (on mobile).

    • Anonymous

      I would rather not have to use Flash at all, but it isn’t that bad on the Galaxy Nexus (it is still Flash of course so it has a high degree of suck-factor in general).  Until most websites stop using it, I will still need it to a degree. 

  • Meister_Li

    I use it from time to time, so I’m disappointed to see it being removed from existence. It’s not a huge issue, but I do like the ability to watch blip.tv, Newgrounds etc on my tablet. More so than on my phone.

  • The only times I see myself purposefully using flash are when I’m sitting next to my brother and his iPhone won’t load a certain website…then I pull out my G-Nex and load it with flash at 4G speeds

    I’m sure there are sites I use it and don’t notice, too.

    • Anonymous

      That first reason alone is enough to validate Flash’s existence on mobile.

    • otto

       I tried doing that but most of the times my phone would crap out. So in the end i looked like a retard, needless to say im glad its dying, i wont miss it.

  • Tim242

    It is far from dead. It is only excluded from 2 out of the many Android browsers. It is still used on MANY websites. I use it daily.

  • –Couldn’t– care less.

    • Anonymous

      Yep. The poll is redundant.

      • Anonymous

        Nono I think he meant the second option should’ve said “I couldn’t care less” instead of “I could care less.”

    • Anonymous

      I actually love flash, but I know I am in the minority. However, if you don’t want flash, then don’t install it. The ability to use something is always a positive if it is not enforced upon the user.

      I really don’t understand how people can complain about the option to use something.

      • Noyfb

        Almost al sites use flash is why we love it. Besides, how long is it going to take for html5 to come out, and if/when it does how long will it take for every site to integrate it? So for the foreseeable I see flash being needed for at least the next 2-3 years. Flash sucks but its the most widely used player on the net, which is why we use it and need it.

        • Anonymous

          You may be surprised at how many sites provide an HTML5 player if flash in unavailable.  Most do.

          • Jdstell

            no way, most do not provide an HTML5 alternative yet. In the future, yes, most will.

          • Lots of websites actually do provide an alternative HTML5 player. In many cases, you have to activate it manually.

        • Anonymous

          HTML5 is “out”. I develop it every day at my job. You would be surprised how many sites DON’T use Flash, unless we are talking about ads…but who the hell really cares about ads? Adobe acknowledges this with their development of Edge. Flash is dead as far as my industry is concerned. If you really need your fix – I can direct you to a few major, free porn sites that utilize HTML5 video.

      • It boils down to this for me: By making it available it prolongs its use. Flash has been a bloated mess for years and it needed to be improved or it needed to die, and Adobe didn’t seem capable of actually improving it.  People can be lazy and keep using flash because it is/was an option on some platforms. Apple never supporting flash on iOS was one of the best things to happen to the internet and mobile platforms – it killed it, it forced it to pasture like it should have been years ago.

        I’m also tired of visiting sites that use flash as a crutch.  While I admire choice and freedom (it’s one of the reasons I love android), the dependency on flash needed to stop and hopefully this is another step in that path.

        • Anonymous

          It doesn’t matter how much you try to change the internet, flash will be there for a LONG time to come. I would prefer everyone switch to HTML5 or something, but the entire internet might take a while to do that.

          In the mean time, I would like to continue visiting the sites unable to switch. Don’t punish the users for this.

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  • Anonymous

    It’s “couldn’t” care less!

  • Neither of those choices. Its still used on some sites mostly for video, so I wouldnt say it doesnt matter. I could do without it on my phone, but on my tablet which is my main browsing device I would still like it. But I’m more than fine with it dying and being replaced with something better, whatever that may be.

  • Anonymous

    I voted that I could care less, but I was looking for I couldn’t care less.

    For me it’s like a physical keyboard. I really wanted it, but once I got it, I never used it.

  • All the local news stations in Dallas use flash for their videos.  I like to watch their videos.  There’s plenty of other flash stuff on the internet.  Flash should absolutely either be continued, or everyone should be forced to commit to whatever the new standard is.  I can’t just have a bunch of dead websites laying around just because all of a sudden there is no support.  Lame.

    • Anonymous

      +1 on the common standard

      • Anonymous

        agreed. standardize it and kill the issue

    • Anonymous

      You standardize something by removing competition and/or resources. If Flash is removed, the industry will naturally evolve to accept the new technology.

  • Bdrsvt

    It’s not that big a deal for me, most, if not all videos I watch have a YouTube link. With all the games available on Android, it’s hard to imagine anyone missing flash based games that you can play on a computer anyway.

  • Daily? No

    But do I use it? Absolutely! It’s one of those things you don’t know how much you may need it until it’s gone… I definitely don’t need it on a daily basis (so using the Chrome browser is perfectly okay with me)… but there are times when I definitely need it!

    • Anonymous

      Trying. To. Hold. Back. Porn. Joke. So. Much. Bc. Of. Last. Sentence.

    • WTF? When do you definitely need flash? My flash-less smartphone and tablet never ask me to DL flash anymore.

  • Dave

    I still use streaming video services that use flash, and I don’t think that will change soon. I wouldn’t mind it if everyone switched to html5, but I think you can’t properly kill it off completely until it’s ditched everywhere

  • ssjnimma

    common now… if you are seriously using FLASH everyday we all know what for!! 😛

    • Your comment reminded me of this gem of a video 
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IraQfhlMwi4 (Android Phone is for Porn)

      • I remember when this released like it was yesterday….

    • Mornings and afternoons

    • Anonymous

      Most sites have a flash-less mobile viewer that lets you stream from any video player app.

      I mean, or so I’ve heard…

    • Sean Cody

      I’m not gonna lie, I use flash for porn.. gay porn O_o

      • Marvinaire

        me too and i love your username

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    • Anonymous

      I personally use it for Kongregate Arcade

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  • Anonymous

    I’d be curious to see how many Flash downloads have come from the market and the percentage of flash installs on supported android devices.  Is flash as prevalent on android as some think it is?

  • *Couldn’t care less lol

    • Anonymous

      This. Minus the “lol.”

      Ah, what the hell? Throw the lol in there!

    • Anonymous

      Tell the truth, did you really “lol” at that thought? 😉

    • WAldenIV

      I say, “Hooray for proper grammar and language!  Keep up the good fight, sir!”

  • Anonymous

    Flash won’t matter if popular companies that use flash as a main source on their websites start switching over to html5, but if they either are slow to change or don’t change at all, then it would be have quite the opposite effect

  • yes i was #69 for flash daily!

  • Htyihgtygg

    Currently yes, Iam limited to sites now. From my gnex on chrome beta

    • Anonymous

      dolphin works great

  • Casey Megginson

    Given that it’s a leading cause of security issues and that it just sucks in general, I say KILL IT WITH FIRE!

    • Anonymous

      If you’re going to kill it I don’t know that the Kindle Fire is the best means to that end.

  • Anonymous

    I honestly can’t think of a major site off the top of my head that requires flash, let alone a site I’d need to visit on my phone that requires flash

    • Evax00x


      • Anonymous

        and until they move away from flash… don’t they have an app?

      • Anonymous

        Load ESPN.com on an iPad… yep it works. Html5.

    • Anonymous

      first row sports if u like live sports on your phone.  i do

  • Anonymous

    I would like to choose an answer that’s halfway between the two available options…It’s nice to have flash sometimes but I don’t use it daily.  I could live without it but like having it occasionally.

    • Michael Forte

      I would say I feel the same. Occasionally there’s a site that I need to go to that requires Flash but most of the time it isn’t needed.

  • Davros

    Definitely in my top 3 reasons for liking Android

    • Wbpartridge

      Really?  Flash on your phone is in your top 3?  I really must not understand what the appeal of it is.  And any time I have used it, it’s been terrible.

      • Chris

        How dare someone have an opinion you don’t agree with.

      • Davros

        Its not just for watching videos. I prefer to use full websites.Take Facebook for instance. I only use the mobile version for its ease of posting pics.