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Is the Galaxy Nexus a “True Nexus” When Attached to a Carrier? Depends on Your Definition (Updated)

Yakju. That’s a name you are about to hear come up a lot over the next few weeks as we approach the arrival of the Galaxy Nexus here on Verizon. The name – as pointed out by Jean-Baptiste M. Queru (an Android software engineer) in a post  over at the Android Builders group – refers to the retail software configuration for the the GSM version of the G-Nex that is controlled directly by Google. If you read that sentence again, you probably get the feeling that there are other software configurations out there that aren’t 100% controlled by Google, right? That’s exactly the case. Within the last couple of days, the question has been raised, “Is the Galaxy Nexus still a pure Google or Nexus device?” The answer depends on your own definition.    

As JBQ also points out in his clarification on yakju, he mentions that if you see alternate builds of yakjusc or yakjuxw (basically any form of yakju with extra characters on the end), just understand that Google is not directly controlling every aspect of them. In fact, as there are “per-country or per-operator software customizations” for essentially the same hardware, carriers and manufacturers are going to have final say in some of these software builds. That’s right, depending on the version of the Galaxy Nexus in your pocket, it could receive updates that have been altered by Samsung or a carrier. By most Android enthusiasts, that is not the definition of a Nexus.

So before we all freak out for a second let’s talk about this some more. As many of you know (since we pointed it out in disgust), the Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus will have bloatware, which prompted many of you to ask if Google would still provide direct and untouched updates to it. Our initial reaction was, “of course, it’s a Nexus,” but now that a Google engineer has made it clear that carrier-specific versions are pushed out, that quote needs to be tweaked slightly. Let’s continue on though.

But does this really mean that the LTE version of the G-Nex is not a Nexus? If your definition is that the device has to receive updates that have been touched only by Google or it isn’t, then I think we know your answer. If you define it as a device that launches with the newest version of Android before anything, will receive updates faster than any non-Nexus phone on the planet, is unlockable at the bootloader, and is about as hacker-friendly as it gets, then technically it still is a Nexus.

To help clarify this situation, I’ll bring up the Motorola XOOM that is attached to Verizon. This device was released as the first with Honeycomb and with an unlockable bootloader. It’s basically a “Nexus” tablet. In fact, even though it is branded by Verizon, it still receives it’s updates directly from Google. Have they been slower at times than say the WiFi-only XOOM? Indeed it has. But, it’s still receiving stock builds from Google, only they have likely been slightly tweaked to meet the carrier’s needs. This post is a great example of that. If you hover over the download link for build HMJ37, you will see that the update is still coming from Google’s servers.

Basically what I’m saying, is that Google is still going to send you updates to your Nexus (if history holds up, that is). Will they have Verizon’s input? Of course they will, it’s running on their network and sold through their stores. I’m not sure you will find a company on the planet that would allow you to sell your product in their store without giving them at least some control – after all, it is their name on the back and their reputation on the line. If there is a problem with the phone, no one is running to Google’s front door to complain, they are headed straight into a VZW shop.

Bottom line here, is that the LTE Galaxy Nexus is still a Nexus. Since it is tied to a carrier though, it’s not going to be exactly the same as say an unlocked (non-carrier attached) Nexus would be, and that makes sense. It should by all means still receive constant updates directly from Google after Verizon gets to take a look at them. It will still be everything that you have been waiting for. Will there be times when Google releases say Android 4.0.5 and the non-carrier GSM variant receives it first and we all sit back and wonder where our update is? You betcha. But you can also bet that we will see it well before any non-Nexus phone will.

No need to freak out here, folks.

Update:  Our buddy Jigga_Z pointed out the continuation of this conversation with JBQ that we missed and wish we hadn’t. According to what he was told directly by Google, the Verizon G-Nex will fall under the name “mysid” rather than “yakju” and will be supported in AOSP. He is also under the impression that “mysid” versions of the phone will receive updates directly from Google just as we had stated up above. So there may be bloatware, but it’s still a Nexus and is still getting updates directly from Google.

Via:  XDA, Google

Cheers to everyone who sent this in!

  • Onthecouchagain

    How is the Verizon iPhone able to get away untouched by Verizon?

    • Onthecouchagain

      I see people have already asked this.

      The fact that Apple can have their iPhone untouched somewhat ullifies this article. For those who might point out that Apple’s iPhone is already well known, they were still able to do it with AT&T in the first place, untouched.

      • Onthecouchagain

        nullifies*

  • Joseph Haskell

    “it is their name on the back and their reputation on the line.”

    That is laughable at best.  As if Verizon has any reputation left to put on the line after this fiasco.  The ONLY selling point Verizon has over their competitors is their coverage area.  If anyone else provided similar coverage to Verizon, I would have dropped them years ago.

    It’s sad that I have to tolerant poor customer service and support just to get the cell phone reception necessary to actually use my phone in all the areas I need to use it in.

    the Verizon bloatware doesn’t really bother me though.  The phone will be unlocked the day I get it and will truly be pure Google from that point forward.  It’s just aggravating to have to wait through all these Verizon delays to get the phone.

  • http://k-selezneva.blogspot.com/ Katerina Selezneva

    The Galaxy Nexus story reminds me of a fable because of incredible rumors and hearsay all around it. But in every fairy tale there is a grain of truth – so, let’s find out what we really know about Galaxy Nexus. Galaxy Nexus story: rumors and facts http://k-selezneva.blogspot.com/2011/12/galaxy-nexus-story-rumors-and-truth.html

  • Jamesdoulane

    I remember when the first and majority of comments would have been “root, and who cares about ota’s”. Good times…

  • Anonymous

    Yeah I agree I don’t appreciate the way Verizon went about this launch the LACK of information directly from the carrier borders on total DISRESPECT to it’s customers. But at the end of the day we all need to determine why we use verizon and exactly what we need from this carrier. I will be purchasing the Galaxy Nexus whatever day it comes out without question…

  • 44tihsad

    I’m on my og droid with gpa rom. I’ve been waiting on g nex for months ( actually I wanted the ltr model of gs2). I have euro gs2 on att also. its the best phone I have ever used and it is still one of the top device. last weekend I almost bought a galaxy note because I coulndt wait any longer for the g nex. but it came to mind that g nex will be a lte device and I want the lte speed unlimited. imgoing to wait for g nex.until the end of the year… if not… I’m canceling by vzw and getting the g note and will get me a lte mifi so I can use to al my devices all at once. since I’m not paying data on my euro phone on att hooked up to my friends acct for $10 a month…. I think that’s the best route that I can go for. I just hate to lose true unlimited lte data…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Clinton-Sparks/100003080036160 Clinton Sparks

    awesome! I plan to take my Bionic to best buy and get a $300 gift card so I can buy this awesome new phone!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000615318329 Kevin Kaykay Kim

    Just for a small note, Yakju, or 약주, means “medicinal liquor”. lol.

    Phone being made from Samsung, I couldn’t stop lolling that Samsung decided to GNexus “Light Liquor”. I guess next phone will be “Hard Liquor”?

  • Strider91

    No it’s not a true Nexus.  When you get the package and see the Verizon Galaxy Nexus you’ll have an extremely hard time finding a SINGLE Google logo on the packaging and phone itself. Could you call it an iPhone if Verizon (or any carrier for that matter) removed all Apple logos from the phone and packaging? I think not… 

    As I mentioned, this is the Verizon Galaxy Nexus. Im looking for the Google Galaxy Nexus by Samsung. Guess I’ll have to take my money elsewhere.

    • Anonymous

      It’s just a logo. It does annoy me, but it’s not going to stop me from getting the phone. It’s still supported under AOSP (this XDA post is a great explanation of the builds: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20158747), will still receive updates from Google, will still be the first to get the latest version of Android, and is still a Nexus. If you really don’t like that Verizon logo, you can buy the HSPA+ back cover off of eBay.

  • Peter

    When I get the phone I will most likely not be getting the updates directly from Google… rather the hosting sites that one of the many developers will offer for their rendition of Android 4.0

  • 44tihsad

    yakju (약주 藥酒) means ALCOHOL in a honorific way. ie. you whould use it to elders ONLY. use it for parent or grandparent’s AGE ONLY…LOL.. “yak” means MEDICINE “ju” means LIQUOR. i think samsung developers were just getting f’d up while making the galaxy nexus. if not they whould’ve put 8mp camera on the device. LOL

  • KevinC

    is the nexus s 4g on sprint not a true nexus either?  it definitely is, and so is verizon’s galaxy nexus.

    • Anonymous

      Exactly what I thought after reading the article.

  • Anonymous

    Yea, Verizon needs to sprinkle a little “hot nut dust” on your update before you get it. 

  • Josh Nichols

    Not sure how on XDA this came to be, but I read that ‘yakju’ was for GSM phones controlled directly by Google, and that the Verizon version was ‘mysid” or something along those lines but that it would also be controlled directly by Google. 

    Correct me if you heard otherwise, anyone.

    • Anonymous

      This XDA post has everything: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20158747

      There are two devices: maguro (HSPA+) and toro (CDMA/LTE). maguro has four software configuration, yakju (fully Google controlled, UK), yakjuxw (Samsung), yakjuux (Samsung, Canada), yakjukr (Samsung, Korea), and yakjusc (Samsung, Japan). toro has only one known software configuratoin: mysid, which is fully Google controlled and the configuration found on the VZW model.

      Also, I’m pretty sure that since all maguro devices are the same hardware, you can change your device from one configuration to another (although I don’t know the process for doing this).

  • Anonymous

    I’m not getting the phone because it is “the device … to receive updates that have been touched only by Google”. I’m getting the phone because it is “a device that launches with the newest version of Android before anything, will receive updates faster than any non-Nexus phone on the planet, is unlockable at the bootloader, and is about as hacker-friendly as it gets”.

    Therefore I don’t care if it is truly a Nexus (maybe next time? I doubt it). I’m getting it because it is (in my opinion) the most advanced phone on the market. I’m getting this phone because devs will do cool things to it first because it is so open. I’m getting it because I like the look of the curved glass, 4.65″ screen and no physical buttons. I’m getting it because I think the 3 prong system is awesome and will add features I want to the phone. I’m getting it because I think NFC is the next big thing and I want to have it. I’m getting it because ICS is great and I want it now. I’m getting it because it is the closest thing to the OG Droid that has come out since the OG.

    So you can take the Nexus name away, I don’t care. You can call it the Galaxy Prime, the Galaxy SII.V. Hell, you can call it the Samsung XyPhone for all I care. The thing this phone will be the best phone on Verizon and that’s what I care about.

    • Anonymous

      “this phone will be the best phone on Verizon ”

      That’s debatable. It’s a Samsung. They were never known for being the best at anything.

      • Anonymous

        I have to say that the Nexus S is the best single 1GHz processor phone I’ve ever used. I expect the same from the Galaxy Nexus built on an operating system, ICS, which was built around the phone.

      • Anonymous

        Samsung has been doing really well lately. It started with the Galaxy S, and they’ve quickly been rising. My personal recommendation to anyone on AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile right now is the SGSII, with my Verizon recommendation being the Galaxy Nexus. Particularly given that Google played a major part in the Galaxy Nexus, it will almost definitely be the best phone on Verizon (at least as long as the Razr has MotoBlur and a locked bootloader).

  • rocketdaddy

    Great post. Interesting. But I nearly choked on the first line that said “over the next few weeks as we approach the arrival of the Galaxy Nexus here on Verizon.” I may not survive the next few weeks if they don’t include many hour with my new Nexus that I really, really hope is coming out THIS week.

  • angermeans

    This has gotten way out of control. I am now listening to the newest Engadget podcast and I have to say I now know why I don’t follow the site. Miriam b*&%$ing about how the Verizon GNex is not a real Nexus. Give me a break. Yes it lacks Google Wallet (worst part and one of the many features was hoping would launch with this unicorn of a phone), yes it has Backup Asst and My Verizon (big deal they are apps that actually and after all we are Verizon customers and many will be coming to Android from another phone and need to port their numbers over plus they can be frozen or unlocked and dropped off the phone…It is a Nexus with an unlockable bootloater more on this later), and yes it may have a different yakju, but that doesn’t make me want to run out and buy the unlocked HSPA+ version like Miriam is saying. You know why? Because it is HSPA+ on T-Mo that is why. I am on Verizon because of the number one LTE network. This far outweighs any of the small bloat or missing Google Wallet. Plus like Kellex wrote (great post by the way) this will be much like the Moto Xoom. WE WILL GET UPDATES IN GOOD TIME. IF THE HSPA+ GETS IT FIRST WE WILL BE RIGHT BEHIND I PROMISE. It is a non factor, yes it’s frusterating (and everything about this phone and its subsequent release [or lack their of] is frusterating). 

    This whole thing is depressing to say the least. I have been a giant Android fan since first getting the N1 back when it was released on ATT and ever since I have been waiting for a Google experience device on Verizon LTE. You take your unbranded (and unsupported) GNex on T-Mo’s less than stellar (and fake) 4G network and i will take the LTE GNex with small flaws. I promise all these negatives are trumped by LTE support. That is the factor I want in a phone and will make sacrifices for it. 

    Now this being said I am still very frusterated with this phone. The last two months I have gone from  beyond excited to burned out and it is frusterating to see Verizon drag their feet to release this phone. Even if they are testing I feel that they are trying to prove something to Google and Samsung and I felt that from the announcement on when it was announced overseas and Verizon was not there. After this year and all the horrible skins I have been forced to experience I had this dream that I could purchase just one phone (hopefully once a year) and that would be a Google Nexus device on the far superior network with Verizon Wireless. Now, I feel that even though we will get this phone I am afraid this will be the last Nexus device on Verizon Wireless unless this phone really takes off and lets be honest outside of tech blogs and Google itself this phone will not be pushed. This is a geeks phone and everything that the Nexus stands for now feels polluted buy this horrible charade. That is what is frusterating not that we might not see a “real Nexus device”

    • Anonymous

      I definitely agree. Particularly since it supports AOSP and has an unlocked bootloader, we’ll probably get the latest updates from XDA sooner than Google anyway. One thing that I would like to point out is that the VZW model is yakju or any variant of it. yakju’s for maguro (hardware name of the HSPA+ model). mysid is the VZW software configuration for the toro device (LTE model) and it’s supported directly by Google.

      Also, you might want to take a look at The Verge if you used to like Engadget. It was started recently by some guys that left Engadget when it started changing.

      • angermeans

        Thanks for the response. Yeah I’ve been following the This is My Next/The Verge since it’s inception and it is a great site. It hasn’t fully taken the place of all the tech blogs I visit (like droid-life and AC), but it is refreshing to see a better site and vision. Plus let’s face it Josh T., Nilay P., and Paul M. were most the reason people hung around Engadget anyways. I really don’t visit Engadget all that much, but I had a craving for some tech news esp since I am waiting on pins and needles like the rest of the world for the GNexus. Yesterdays podcast was horrible and ended up turning it off. Anyways, thanks again my friend, and hopefully we see that LTE running unicorn we are all waiting for this week. If so i’ll see ya on the Google Applications. 

  • babadush

    Except the google name isn’t on the back of it

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t the Nexus the Verizon phone with the largest HD display?  The Rezound has 4.3 and the Razr is not HD. I just want as big a display as possible with as many pixels as possible. Everything else is secondary. Of course if it drops dead because it’s cheap crap then that would be a reason not to buy.  Having updates happen would be really nice but I’m still using the OG Driod with 2.2 stock.

    • http://www.facebook.com/nadeemqasem Nadeem Qasem

      yes sir, this is the phone for you then. unless ur on gsm and can import a galaxy note.

    • Anonymous

      If you’re on an OG Droid, you might want to try Peter Alfonso’s GPA builds (Gingerbread). I’m been on them for months and my phone is way faster than it was with stock Froyo.

  • Champlification

    Has it been proven that the Verizon Galaxy Nexus will have an (easily)unlocked bootloader?  Or is there still a chance that Verizon made them lock it down?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001805990120 Mike Røuche

      i highly doubt that of all things google has allowed verizon to do, that they would let them do that. then, it would not be a nexus.

    • Anonymous

      A guy managed to buy one last week and said it did unlock with the ADB commands like all the other Nexus phones.

    • Anonymous

      It definitely still has the easily unlocked bootloader.

  • Michael Quinlan

    The Nexus name belongs to Google.  As such, a Nexus is what Google says it is.  Whatever features you or I think a Nexus device should have isn’t relevant.

  • babadush

    “I’m not sure you will find a company on the planet that would allow you to sell your product in their store without giving them at least some control”

    We don’t get windows, linux, or apple updates from say dell or hp when they sell you a computer. You get them from the OS manufacturer. There’s one for you. Imagine if you had to get a windows update from the manufacturer of the computer. Wouldn’t make much sense would it? Same concept.

    • Anonymous

      Yea but you get HP assistant and Symantec Anti-Virus, etc. Not to mention HP doesn’t control the internet you receive the update over.

  • Anonymous

    I could care less about the “pure Google” tag. It’s running Android without a skin over it which is pure enough for me, besides I’m willing to sacrifice 2 apps and updates rolling out a bit later to have 32 GB of storage (because there is no SD slot) and be on Verizon’s LTE rather than T-Mobile’s donkey of a network or AT&T’s faux 4G.

    • Anonymous

      Honestly, I consider anything without a skin to be “Google experience”
      In my opinion, Nexus means Google experience, plus an unlocked/unlockable bootloader and fast updates. The VZW Nexus has all of those.

  • Anonymous

    With an unlockable bootloader, can’t we just grab updates ourselves? I don’t see how this is causing so much worry since the phone is meant to be unlocked. 

    • Anonymous

      We can. The only issue (which isn’t an issue because Google controls the VZW Nexus’s updates) would be for consumers that don’t know how to unlock their bootloader. Of course, they probably won’t even know or care that they have a Nexus phone.

      • Anonymous

        True. Especially with all the hype of it being the first Google “flagship” phone for Verizon running ICS. I think people don’t have much to worry about with updates as long as they’re not being delayed for months but who knows, it IS Verizon. 

  • Alp2001z28

    Just got word from a verizon employee here in corpus christi, tx that the g nex drops this thursday for sure and has one reserved for me.. AWESOME

  • Anonymous

    If the bootloader is unlocked…. it’s not just a Nexus…. it’s a MIRACLE!

    • Anonymous

      On Verizon, with no custom skin either? Definitely.

  • Anonymous

    This is a bit disappointing. It’s still unlockable, which is great, and the fast camera is appealing. As I tend to use my phone as a camera surprisingly frequently, however, the Rezound looks a little more appealing in light of this news. If they could only completely unlock the Rezound… 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001805990120 Mike Røuche

      sorry my friend, but the rezound is a joke

    • Anonymous

      The VZW Nexus’s updates are still completely controlled by Google. See this XDA post for an explanation of maguro versus toro and yakju versus mysid: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20158747

  • Anonymous

    ask the owners of the non yakju phones how their volume bug fix OTA is going. 

    Hint – it hasn’t

    So no, its not a “true” Nexus… but its the best Verizon is ever going to get

    • Anonymous

      It’s Google experience, has an unlocked bootloader, and will get the latest versions of Android first. It’s a Nexus. Plus, Verizon doesn’t have yakju because the LTE model is toro, not maguro. Toro’s primary software configuration is mysid, which is completely controlled by Google. (Edit: released I’d typed maguro where I meant to put toro)

  • Anonymous

    It’s not anything until people can actually have it.

    • FknTwizted

      Boom! Bump!

    • Anonymous

      Definitely.

  • Jothen2002

    Thank you Kellex for feeding my brain …I love posts like this…

  • Anonymous

    Wow disqus is effed up right now

  • Anonymous

    deleted

  • Anonymous

    compromise and justify…it’s all good ;)

  • Jikhead

    I would much rather know that an update that passed thru Verizon was OK for release, than have it come straight from Google first-and-foremost and as soon as it hit the masses, a bug that slipped thru the Google testers and took down the entire network because no engineers at VW were able to test it thoroughly as well.

  • Anonymous

    If one can get a good At&t connection, might as well get the unlocked GSM version. It’s expensive at $800 but, if you are aiming to keep it for 2 years then it may be a better investment. The unlocked GSM version is the TRUE Nexus, and may be more enjoyable for people looking for the untainted vanilla experience.

    • Cam

      I think the only thing holding many of us back is the grandfathered unlimited data plan on VZW,

      • Anonymous

        Oh yea. I forgot about that.That is a good point.

      • Anonymous

        Not only am I grandfathered into unlimited, I’m also on a family plan, with one device (other than mine) up for an upgrade, but three lines less than a year since an upgrade.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe they should rename it the “2nd-Nex-to-us” since apparently VZW will see/approve the updates before the actual phone owners do….

    • Anonymous

      Toro (VZW LTE Nexus) with the software configuration mysid (which the VZW model will have) is controlled completely by Google. Plus, there’s still an unlocked bootloader and we can use AOSP.

  • Red

    “I’m not sure you will find a company on the planet that would allow you to sell your product in their store without giving them at least some control”

    Which is why Best Buy gets to load its software on every Blackberry it sells…

    No, thats a bad analogy.

    Which is why Verizon gets to load its crap on each iPhone it sells…

    Wait… what?

    • Pokerken

      Exactly. Verizon doesn’t load their crap on iPhones, and updates come directly from Apple. Pure as could be.

      • Anonymous

        One situation where Apple’s dickish attitude actually helped the customer…

        • MrsDowlrimple

          I luv how fandroid’s complain about how Apple is too controlling of their products, but that Goolge is weak for not controlling theirs….LOL

          • Anonymous

            It depends if you are trying to control the user or the carrier.

  • Anonymous

    I found very strange that verizon has not released the nexus, maybe they know it will be a disaster.

  • RaptorOO7

    I will rely more on CyanogenMod to get me by with the latest ROM builds, perhaps that is the one part that will make it all worthwhile.

  • Anonymous

    Man been reading a lot about this phone. Theres a bunch of negativity with it. Wanted it, but now maybe looking at the Razr also

    • Matthew DiGiacomo

      What negativity? LOL Don’t buy a Motocrap infested phone!

      • Anonymous

        I use the hate Moto too, but they are different now. I had a deep seated hate for them a while back because of the bootloader. But the Razr and Bionic are 2 of the best phones out right now. Moto blur is no more…their UI is very much functional now and is beneficial rather than laggy and overbearing. The Bionic is flawless after the recent update and never drops a signal, the Razr has been perfect out of box. Don’t judge Moto if you haven’t tried them lately.

        • Jothen2002

          Yeah I went from an OG , to a T-Bolt to a, Droid 3 to a Bionic to a Razor to a ???( LG enV only becasue I sold my RaZr too damn early !)  now I m hopipng I wont miss my Razr…but damn I miss flashing like Idid with my OG 

          • Anonymous

            The locked bootloader sucks in terms of all things root on my Bionic. Thankfully their safestrap. I miss my D1 and Inc2 in terms of the development they had, but my Bionic has great features out of the box. I went from the D1>Fascinate>Inc2>Bionic. From that I will only buy HTC or Moto devices, never another CDMA Samsung.

        • Tysoncrosby21

          The razr is so ugly with that boxy shape and the HUGE bezel around the screen, they could have saved a lot of space on that phone by making the bezel half that size

          • Anonymous

            I prefer the shape of the Bionic to the Razr actually, and the removable battery. But the GNex has a huge bevel too, but nobody finds fault in that.

          • FknTwizted

            dude the razr is sick in my opinion.  thing is wicked fast… i get to play with the gnex and that and i find no hesitation in the razr… only reason i want the gnex is cause its gets all the updates first and its more of a developers phone.

      • GalaxyNexus=Shit

        Go ahead and buy a cheap plastic samsung phone with a crappy baseband.  The jokes on you.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001805990120 Mike Røuche

          plastic and glass that doesnt break as easy> metal and glass that does

          • Fixer

            that’s right Mike.  Some people are too stupid to understand that.  mc_clane is still mad he is stuck with that POS bionic. HA!

        • Fixer

          Crybaby mc_clane. Still crying! :)

    • PC_Tool

      Long done with it.  Waiting until the SGS3 and then possibly switching carriers.

      • Anonymous

        I have to get something soon, I’m using my fiance’s bionic. She wants it back cause her eris is a pos

      • Anonymous

        SGS3? won’t that not be out till late summer next year at the earliest? You might as well just get the SGS2, as long as you’re contract’s up.

        • PC_Tool

          Contract will be up in May.  Even if it is not out by then, I can wait.  From what I have heard, it’ll be worth it.

    • Anonymous

      The negativity is all about the delay. This yakju stuff only deals with the HSPA+ version. They VZW LTE model will be controlled by Google (aside from VZW taking forever to launch the thing in the first place). Hopefully, the delay will be over this Thursday and I can finally get my fill of ICS.

  • Anonymous

    Where’s the poll? Afraid to publish the results?

    I’d predict that the vast majority would say that this device which has zero “Google” branding and only receives updates that include all of Verizon’s changes, and have gone through the lengthy “Verizon Testing and Certification Lab” does not meet the full spirit of the original definition and intent that Google had when they created the Nexus program. Thus this is not a Nexus.

    Despite this unfortunate failing of Google’s negotiators and regulators corruption, I and thousands of others, will still buy this device as it represents the best option we are permitted to run on Verizon’s network. What’s next, will my home cable ISP make me buy my computers only from them and run only the programs they permit?

    • Tim242

      Google branding means nothing. Look at the Sprint HTC Hero. You people need to get a life. Really.

    • Anonymous

      Verizon’s only delaying the launch of the phone. The LTE model is toro with the mysid software configuraiton, which is completely controlled by Google. There may be no Google logo on the device itself, but it’s still Android 4.0, it’s still a Nexus, and it will still be Google’s phone.

  • lightlong

    This is why Google needs become its own carrier.  Period.

    • Tim242

      One company controlling everything is not good. You sound like one of the apple worshipets.

    • Jikhead

      How do you propose Google go about doing this?  Yes, Google has a lot of cash but I think you fail to realize what it would take to make it happen.  What spectrum do you think they could buy from the FCC, if any?  Even if they would/could, it would take forever to happen.  As soon as it went public, every U.S. carrier would drop Android from their lineup.  Then I/we would be forced to use an iPhone for the next 15 years.  Forget about this idea, never going to happen.

  • Scott Parker

    “…it still receives it’s updates directly from Google”

    *its.

    http://www.angryflower.com/itsits.gif

    • Mark Wilk
    • Keith Sumner

      Yep, Scott, he was right. The apostrophe is to show ownership.

      • Scott Parker

        *He* who?  Bob the angry flower?  Because “it’s” is a contraction meaning “it is”.  No exceptions.  No “it’s to show ownership” stuff.  If you can’t replace it with “it is” or “it has” you’re doing it wrong.

  • Sirx

    When you feel the need to tell people 2 – 3 times not to worry, it’s usually only because you know there’s a reason to worry…

  • Anonymous

    This has been another episode of, “As the Nexus Wheel Turns”

    • Anonymous

      Coming up next, a brand new episode of “All My Lawsuits” featuring Apple and Samsung.

  • JMonkeYJ

    the Googlers i know who work on Android have the LTE Nexus…that’s good enough to make it a true Nexus for me.

  • Trophynuts

    great Read Kellex

  • http://twitter.com/nathanp8 Nathan Solseth

    As usual, Kellex B is the voice of reason.  Thanks, Droid Life!

    • HowYouLikeThemApples?

      He’s another sheep who rides the tides of opinion.

      • Fixer

        You still crying??

  • http://twitter.com/starvin Gavin Owens

    Possibly dumb question, does the sprint nexus s 4g get updates at the exact same time as the 3g  versions? does it have any sprint bloatware? (im pretty sure this is a no)

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      Nexus S 4G gets different updates and has for a while been running newer builds of Android for NFC and Wallet support.

      • Anonymous

        Plus Sprint forced Google to remove the native AOSP tethering framework.

  • Nsbjj

    Verizon will allow the Galaxy Nexus to be update just as fast as they are releasing it.   Any of you who think other wise is a fool.  

    • Anonymous

      Verizon doesn’t control the Nexus’s updates. See this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20158747