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	<title>Comments on: Amazon Starts Black Friday Deals Early &#8211; All Verizon, AT&amp;T, Sprint Phones Just a Penny Today Through Cyber Monday</title>
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		<title>By: trikotret</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/21/amazon-starts-black-friday-deals-early-all-verizon-att-sprint-phones-just-a-penny-today-through-cyber-monday/comment-page-1/#comment-1447556</link>
		<dc:creator>trikotret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[its been 3 months now. anyone get hit with a $250 FEE by amazon after putting a dumb phone on the new line to get rid of data]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its been 3 months now. anyone get hit with a $250 FEE by amazon after putting a dumb phone on the new line to get rid of data</p>
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		<title>By: Jame Molon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jame Molon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 07:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[good phone ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good phone </p>
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		<title>By: guy1234</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/21/amazon-starts-black-friday-deals-early-all-verizon-att-sprint-phones-just-a-penny-today-through-cyber-monday/comment-page-2/#comment-1048354</link>
		<dc:creator>guy1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 18:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If you need to cancel your service within the first 30 days, you will need to contact your wireless carrier independently to cancel your cell phone service (we aren&#039;t able to cancel service on your behalf).&quot;Amazon can&#039;t cancel my contract as it doesn&#039;t have the right, anyway I will try doing my plan and hope I don&#039;t get screwed]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you need to cancel your service within the first 30 days, you will need to contact your wireless carrier independently to cancel your cell phone service (we aren&#8217;t able to cancel service on your behalf).&#8221;Amazon can&#8217;t cancel my contract as it doesn&#8217;t have the right, anyway I will try doing my plan and hope I don&#8217;t get screwed</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look, man. NO wireless carrier will credit back the ETF to your account until the phone is returned. AT&amp;T aren&#039;t the ones who cancel your contract, it&#039;s Amazon. You should&#039;ve probably looked into this brilliant scheme more before buying up phones for a penny.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, man. NO wireless carrier will credit back the ETF to your account until the phone is returned. AT&amp;T aren&#8217;t the ones who cancel your contract, it&#8217;s Amazon. You should&#8217;ve probably looked into this brilliant scheme more before buying up phones for a penny.</p>
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		<title>By: Jtlm03</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jtlm03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Edwin M has it figured out.  It&#039;s called corporate myopia.  Levitt wrote about it in the Havard Business Review in 1960!

The most successful companies have eyes focused down the road.  I would like to see a bone thrown our way every now and then as well.  I was with Cellular One then bought by Century-Tel then bought by Alltel, now Verizon.  How&#039;s that for being a sucker?

Anyway, the money isn&#039;t in the phones, it&#039;s in the continued contracts.  Help us out a little, Verizon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edwin M has it figured out.  It&#8217;s called corporate myopia.  Levitt wrote about it in the Havard Business Review in 1960!</p>
<p>The most successful companies have eyes focused down the road.  I would like to see a bone thrown our way every now and then as well.  I was with Cellular One then bought by Century-Tel then bought by Alltel, now Verizon.  How&#8217;s that for being a sucker?</p>
<p>Anyway, the money isn&#8217;t in the phones, it&#8217;s in the continued contracts.  Help us out a little, Verizon.</p>
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		<title>By: Pissed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pissed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 02:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HELP!!! I literally bought a Razr yesterday, the ONE day I had not checked DL for 900 times and didn&#039;t know about the penny special till afterwards!! So I paid $299 for my Razr!!! Is there anything I can do about this?! Think if I complain to Verizon they&#039;ll give me money????

Also, does anyone know if I &quot;had&quot; bought my Razr from Amazon, would the Jan 15 exchange policy still apply? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HELP!!! I literally bought a Razr yesterday, the ONE day I had not checked DL for 900 times and didn&#8217;t know about the penny special till afterwards!! So I paid $299 for my Razr!!! Is there anything I can do about this?! Think if I complain to Verizon they&#8217;ll give me money????</p>
<p>Also, does anyone know if I &#8220;had&#8221; bought my Razr from Amazon, would the Jan 15 exchange policy still apply? </p>
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		<title>By: guy1234</title>
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		<dc:creator>guy1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 02:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im an at&amp;t customer, I bought htc vivid for a penny today on amazon, I have a family plan so I added a new line and so I get the phone for a penny, but with at&amp;t, you can cancel your line in the first 30 days without the early termination fee. so If I only cancelled the line and kept the phone, I will only have to pay 250 for amazon, which is a good deal as the phone price is 500.

Another question, how does amazon charge you the 250? via your at&amp;t contract or what? because I bought the phone with a Walmart debit card that have only 24$ in it.
plus I bought the phone today and amazon says it will arrive after 12 days, but when I log on my at&amp;t account, there is no sign for an added line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im an at&amp;t customer, I bought htc vivid for a penny today on amazon, I have a family plan so I added a new line and so I get the phone for a penny, but with at&amp;t, you can cancel your line in the first 30 days without the early termination fee. so If I only cancelled the line and kept the phone, I will only have to pay 250 for amazon, which is a good deal as the phone price is 500.</p>
<p>Another question, how does amazon charge you the 250? via your at&amp;t contract or what? because I bought the phone with a Walmart debit card that have only 24$ in it.<br />
plus I bought the phone today and amazon says it will arrive after 12 days, but when I log on my at&amp;t account, there is no sign for an added line.</p>
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		<title>By: Bad4u6669</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/21/amazon-starts-black-friday-deals-early-all-verizon-att-sprint-phones-just-a-penny-today-through-cyber-monday/comment-page-2/#comment-1038939</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad4u6669</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have talked to my friend (works at verizon) said swapping phones is no problem, and amazon only cares that the phone number they give you and the $9.99 line stays active for 181 days. Nothing about you have to keep data. (Like Evan said, what if you broke the phone and replace with Dumb phone)

Also I have done this before with best buy deals. They do the same thing have to keep the same line active. I did this when I talked my X into buying the DX and swapping with my Inc.My phone (rezound) is going to be here today and im going to verizon to swap it out. I will post any issues I run into.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have talked to my friend (works at verizon) said swapping phones is no problem, and amazon only cares that the phone number they give you and the $9.99 line stays active for 181 days. Nothing about you have to keep data. (Like Evan said, what if you broke the phone and replace with Dumb phone)</p>
<p>Also I have done this before with best buy deals. They do the same thing have to keep the same line active. I did this when I talked my X into buying the DX and swapping with my Inc.My phone (rezound) is going to be here today and im going to verizon to swap it out. I will post any issues I run into.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was really bummed because I just bought a bunch of phones from them on 11/11 during their $111.11 sale and now this comes along.  Converting from AT&amp;T to Vzw.

With nothing to loose, I called Amazon and asked about price protection for recent purchases.  She said they do not offer that but can grant a one time exception.  Sweeeett!!!  Happy Thanksgiving.  I just got them to credit me several hundreds of dollars!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was really bummed because I just bought a bunch of phones from them on 11/11 during their $111.11 sale and now this comes along.  Converting from AT&amp;T to Vzw.</p>
<p>With nothing to loose, I called Amazon and asked about price protection for recent purchases.  She said they do not offer that but can grant a one time exception.  Sweeeett!!!  Happy Thanksgiving.  I just got them to credit me several hundreds of dollars!</p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert Estrada</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/21/amazon-starts-black-friday-deals-early-all-verizon-att-sprint-phones-just-a-penny-today-through-cyber-monday/comment-page-2/#comment-1038345</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilbert Estrada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can do that if you don&#039;t mind getting hit with about $600 in penalty fees.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can do that if you don&#8217;t mind getting hit with about $600 in penalty fees.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan L</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/21/amazon-starts-black-friday-deals-early-all-verizon-att-sprint-phones-just-a-penny-today-through-cyber-monday/comment-page-2/#comment-1038102</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I called amazon twice and of course got two different responses. One told me its only the line of service amazon cares about and another rep said its the device. So i asked what if i break the device IE: drop it etc, you are saying i will have to pay amazons fee if i replace the device on my own? Then the rep stated no then i wouldn&#039;t be charged however if the phone appeared on another line of my account i would be charged. This makes no sense, so your saying if i break the phone i can get a dumbphone from craigslist and replace it but then if i use the original phone i bought i get charged back. Too much conflicting information. I am willing to keep the line open but not willing to have an extra data plan. So i called to cancel but they processed my order so i will be returning the phone and dealing with verizon to rid of the extra line (this will be a mess im sure). Because I can not get a clear answer im going to go with you on this one and see that they are giants and I will lose :) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called amazon twice and of course got two different responses. One told me its only the line of service amazon cares about and another rep said its the device. So i asked what if i break the device IE: drop it etc, you are saying i will have to pay amazons fee if i replace the device on my own? Then the rep stated no then i wouldn&#8217;t be charged however if the phone appeared on another line of my account i would be charged. This makes no sense, so your saying if i break the phone i can get a dumbphone from craigslist and replace it but then if i use the original phone i bought i get charged back. Too much conflicting information. I am willing to keep the line open but not willing to have an extra data plan. So i called to cancel but they processed my order so i will be returning the phone and dealing with verizon to rid of the extra line (this will be a mess im sure). Because I can not get a clear answer im going to go with you on this one and see that they are giants and I will lose <img src='http://www.droid-life.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert Estrada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilbert Estrada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d think very long and hard before trying this myself. Aside from the already established fact that both Amazon and Verizon have confirmed that changing the phone number assigned to the new device would trigger Amazon&#039;s penalty fee, there&#039;s alot more teeth in what you quoted than it appears at first glance.

Note the phrase &#039;line of service for this device&#039;, in particular the last 3 words, as well as the statement &#039;maintain this service in good standing&#039;.

Generally speaking, making a major change to a service plan (and replacing a smartphone with a dumbphone and removing the data/texting/wireless soda machine, etc.. would be considered major) is considered a disconnection and reconnection, which is why when you make such a change they typically have to go through the whole &quot;You&#039;ll be charged a pro-rated fee for the new plan but you&#039;ll get a refund for the remainder of the month on the old plan&quot; speech. They do this deliberately to prevent the sort of thing you&#039;re attempting here. In addition, they can claim that the statement &#039;for this device&#039; was violated simply by changing the ESN associated with the new line of service.

On top of that, disputing any penalty fees with your credit card company based on the grounds that a huge merchant and your carrier wouldn&#039;t let you defraud them will probably fail as well, as most credit card companies have little interest in undermining the same sort of contracts that they cards rely on themselves. It&#039;s not like Amazon failed to provide you with what you paid for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d think very long and hard before trying this myself. Aside from the already established fact that both Amazon and Verizon have confirmed that changing the phone number assigned to the new device would trigger Amazon&#8217;s penalty fee, there&#8217;s alot more teeth in what you quoted than it appears at first glance.</p>
<p>Note the phrase &#8216;line of service for this device&#8217;, in particular the last 3 words, as well as the statement &#8216;maintain this service in good standing&#8217;.</p>
<p>Generally speaking, making a major change to a service plan (and replacing a smartphone with a dumbphone and removing the data/texting/wireless soda machine, etc.. would be considered major) is considered a disconnection and reconnection, which is why when you make such a change they typically have to go through the whole &#8220;You&#8217;ll be charged a pro-rated fee for the new plan but you&#8217;ll get a refund for the remainder of the month on the old plan&#8221; speech. They do this deliberately to prevent the sort of thing you&#8217;re attempting here. In addition, they can claim that the statement &#8216;for this device&#8217; was violated simply by changing the ESN associated with the new line of service.</p>
<p>On top of that, disputing any penalty fees with your credit card company based on the grounds that a huge merchant and your carrier wouldn&#8217;t let you defraud them will probably fail as well, as most credit card companies have little interest in undermining the same sort of contracts that they cards rely on themselves. It&#8217;s not like Amazon failed to provide you with what you paid for.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan L</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/21/amazon-starts-black-friday-deals-early-all-verizon-att-sprint-phones-just-a-penny-today-through-cyber-monday/comment-page-2/#comment-1036820</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amazon&#039;s Terms

When you purchase your device with service from AmazonWireless.com, we automatically pass along an instant discount from the carrier to you.  This discount has been provided to you based on your agreement to (a) activate a new, or extend an existing, line of service for this device with the carrier, and (b) maintain this service in good standing for a minimum of 181 consecutive days.  If you do not activate or extend a line of service in connection with this device, or if your service is canceled/disconnected before 181 consecutive days, AmazonWireless.com will charge you $250 per device, plus applicable taxes.

It says nothing about keeping the same plans. I ordered a rezound as an add a lien for my family plan, i will swap to a dumbphone ESN to pay $9.99 add a line fee only. If amazon charges me i will dispute with my credit card company. Terms basically say i have to keep the line open.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon&#8217;s Terms</p>
<p>When you purchase your device with service from AmazonWireless.com, we automatically pass along an instant discount from the carrier to you.  This discount has been provided to you based on your agreement to (a) activate a new, or extend an existing, line of service for this device with the carrier, and (b) maintain this service in good standing for a minimum of 181 consecutive days.  If you do not activate or extend a line of service in connection with this device, or if your service is canceled/disconnected before 181 consecutive days, AmazonWireless.com will charge you $250 per device, plus applicable taxes.</p>
<p>It says nothing about keeping the same plans. I ordered a rezound as an add a lien for my family plan, i will swap to a dumbphone ESN to pay $9.99 add a line fee only. If amazon charges me i will dispute with my credit card company. Terms basically say i have to keep the line open.</p>
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		<title>By: shehippie</title>
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		<dc:creator>shehippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not touching this with a ten foot pole!  I dont want to have to wait 180 days to switch the Razr on my main line and stick my D3 on the amazon line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not touching this with a ten foot pole!  I dont want to have to wait 180 days to switch the Razr on my main line and stick my D3 on the amazon line.</p>
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		<title>By: GUEST</title>
		<link>http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/21/amazon-starts-black-friday-deals-early-all-verizon-att-sprint-phones-just-a-penny-today-through-cyber-monday/comment-page-2/#comment-1035809</link>
		<dc:creator>GUEST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[why cant you just add the line, pay that months bill, then drop the line, keep the phone...?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why cant you just add the line, pay that months bill, then drop the line, keep the phone&#8230;?</p>
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