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DROID RAZR to See Ice Cream Sandwich in Early 2012, Other Android 2.3 Devices “Should” as Well

It was pretty obvious that during Motorola’s DROID RAZR event yesterday that many of our minds were already looking toward the Ice Cream Sandwich event that would happen just hours later. And when the press release dropped with “Android 2.3.5” on it, we all immediately wanted to know if and when this newly announced phone would receive an update to Android 4.0. According to Moto senior VP of product management Alain Mutricy, we should see it some time in early 2012. That’s soon…like couple of months away soon. You may remember that it took 8 months for some of their products to receive Gingerbread this year after it was announced, so this should make future RAZR owners smile. We should also point out that Moto is easily the quickest when it comes to updating their handsets – they may just make this “start of 2012” deadline.  

On related note, Google’s Matias Duarte and Gabe Cohen assure us that almost every Android 2.3 device “should” be able to run ICS. Whether your 2.3 device will receive it or not is up to manufacturers. When they attempt to tell you that your device is incapable of running it early next year though, be sure to point that quote out to them. I’d say the guys that designed and created it might have a pretty good idea of how it should work.

And then returning back to the RAZR, we wanted to toss out this Euro promo vid for fun:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9Sz3Cn101Y[/youtube]

Via:  Pocket Lint, Engadget

Cheers eddie and everyone else!

  • Anonymous

    Moto also promised that Xoom would get it’s 4G upgrade soon! Soon turned out to be NOW, 8 months later. And STILL they are having troubles. Buyer beware if you trust Moto’s word. I won’t trust it again.

  • Anonymous

    It really makes me sick to think if I couldn’t root I’d have to wait indefinitely for some stupid programmer to update my phone. Really, we should all be running the latest build of gingerbread and we should all be updated to ics within 2 months of its release.

    • Bionic

      sounds good in theory.  But im sure there is some reason this does not happen

  • Anonymous

    LOL, early 2012. I’ll believe it when I see it. If the RAZR or Bionic is updated before May 2012 I will be shocked.

    • Bionic

      and your reasoning is?

      • brandon holley

        That the manufacturer wants to get the update out but verizon wireless is never too eager to get one out. That combined with the fact that during the press conference they said that ICS wouldn’t work with anything less then a 720p HD screen that kinda screws the RAZR over because its only a qHD screen.

  • Well my Nexus S ‘should’ get this first. I’ll be quite disappointed if thats not the case!

  • Jake

    Fool me once, Moto, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

  • Anonymous

    Ye3a because their promised update of the Xoom was so prompt with their predictions.

    • Anonymous

      The Xoom update was a huge fiasco, but with this being only a software update I cant imagine that it will be as difficult to pull off. 

  • Anonymous

    The Razr looks good and all but the sealed battery is a turn off……Lets see how much thicker the VZW G-Nexus is compared to the one that was cut loose…

    • brandon holley

      You also gotta understand that the RAZR has a microSD slot and the Nexus I believe doesn’t come with one.

  • Tony Allen

    I wonder if we’ll see OEMs moving away from skin customizations and rather including packaging to allow us to use their apps like Motocast as an option that work alongside ICS instead of inside of it. My Bionic + Vanilla ICS = WIN!

  • 1TallTXn

    Did they get Jason Statham to do the voice-over for that video?

    Nice, potent phone, but I think I’ll be getting the Galaxy Nexus.

  • Kerbero9

    i feel sorry for anybody who:

    1) still believes motorola is going to deliver on time
    2) thinks this release is not going to break more than it will fix

    • Bionic

      Your an idiot.  Motorola’s update track record is fantastic.  Their hardware is great

      • Guest

        you mad bro?

  • nxusnow

    im leaning towards the razr

  • This phone looks awesome, basically the same as the nexus + kevlar

  • Badassbosoxfan

    Son of a bitch…ICS was what was tilting me towards the Nexus. Now the RAZR may have it early 2012. This decision will be more difficult than deciding whether or to take take my wife off life support (or is it?) lol. JK she is not really on life support, but you catch my drift.

  • Carlos Elias Soliman

    I really like this phone, but got no keyboard, no remove battery.

  • Anonymous

    I can haz ice cream sammich now?

  • Anonymous

    This beast is getting better and better 🙂 bionic owners don’t be discourage, you will get ice cream sandwich pretty soon as well.

  • Anonymous

    probably just me, but it would annoy me having redundant navigation buttons with both the onscreen and capacitive buttons on this device.  wouldn’t you lose some screen real estate too when it receives ICS?  much rather have the nexus that was designed specifically for ICS.

  • Anonymous

    the bionic probably will stay on gingerbread until next summer i bet you

  • Pdxfrolfer

    Am I the alone with my slant towards the Razr over the Nexus?  Dont get me wrong loved some of the ICS capabilities, but I really like the appearance of the Razr.  Not too mention I am running out of patience with my CM7.1 OG droid.

    • Rob

      I would still get the GN over the Razr because it’s supposed to get updates FIRST.

    • Anonymous

      No, me too.  I like the sturdiness of the RAZR, the smaller screen size and potentially global functionality over ICS and the slightly curved screen of the GN.  I’m on an OG droid so even Gingerbread is new to me. lol

    • Alexander Garcia

      You’re not alone my friend. Droid RAZR FTW!!!

    • Anonymous

      RAZR FTW
      1. Thinner
      2. Lighter
      3. Steel frame, kevlar and Gor Glass, well made and splash resistant
      4. Longer battery life
      5. Smaller form factor
      6. More Dock options
      7. Although Blur is an OS hog, it looks great and adds nice widgets / apps
      8. Phone is blazing fast even with Blur
      9. MotoConnect
      10. Well get ICS when it is more mature, after the major kinks are worked out
      11. 8 MP camera, almost 0 lag from what I have read
      12. Can add a SIM card including one with NFC when it come out next year
      13. HDMI out

      I was totally on board with the G-Nex but given the chunky design, the fact that 3 out of 4 demos crash on ICS and the above, I am now a RAZR fan.

      • Bionicman

        RAZR WTF?
        1. Thinner
        2. Lighter
        3. Steel frame, kevlar and Gor Glass, well made and splash resistant
        4. Longer battery life
        5. Smaller form factor
        **1 to 5 are design reasons to pick the RAZR. while they are good reasons, not enough to choose RAZR over GNex.

        6. More Dock options **We haven’t seen what the GNex accessories are yet but I hope they include some kind of dock options
        7. Although Blur is an OS hog, it looks great and adds nice widgets / apps **this is a no-brainer, ICS vanilla all the way
        8. Phone is blazing fast even with Blur **the processor on the GNex will be equal or newer than the RAZR plus ICS its hardware optimized unlike Gingerbread
        9. MotoConnect **cant argue with a nice feature like this, though there are current apps that do similar things
        10. Well get ICS when it is more mature, after the major kinks are worked out **uhuh yea this is moto your talking about. even now that google and moto mobility have merged, im betting this will still take forever to happen
        11. 8 MP camera, almost 0 lag from what I have read **iam kinda bummed the GNex has a 5mp camera but having seem the recent motos camera pics like the D3 and Bionic, the RAZR pics will probably suck also
        12. Can add a SIM card including one with NFC when it come out next year **uhhh wha? look the GNex has NFC and Beam. need i say more
        13. HDMI out **someone here made a great statement that you would still need a special cable or adapter to use this so its kind of a moot point. just like your would need a MHL cable for the GNex.

        I REALLY want to like moto phones again but i got burned sooooo badly with the Bionic which i was so hyped about. and im not trying to be harsh on chaz2400 im just giving my response and opinions on his points.

        • Anonymous

          No worries on being harsh…

          So you are saying that a phone’s design, build quality and battery life are not good reasons to choose it over another device?

          I know ICS is more “in tune” with the hardware, but blazing is blazing. Just because one fire is hotter than anther does not mean they both wont burn.

          Although ICS has a lot of nice new features, have you noticed how many times it freezes the phones? Check out all the demos, 3 out of 4 have some sort of hang up and the phone needs to reboot. Examples are the Engadget video on NFC and the video on Face Unlock… both had to be rebooted. Dont tell me they are going to “fix” this before launch… all of 3 weeks away.

          I am also concerned about the camera quality… we will see.

          I said NFC on SIM, what I meant was NFC on SD. They are working on an SD card with an NFC chip that should be able to be used on ICS with the RAZR… again, we will see, but this technology isnt going to be popular for a year or so anyway.

          Other than this, the only point you have to buy the G-Nex over the RAZR is vanilla ICS… wow.

          • Bionicman

            well there are other reasons i didnt specifiy like samsungs hd amoled screen (4.65inches vs 4.3), better camera features like time lapse and realtime panoramic photos. not to mention face unlock and lots of other ICS features that dont just make this a minor upgrade from GINGERBREAD but a game changer in my opinion. im hoping we’ll hear more about battery usage with the GNex but we do know they are similiar (1750 vs 1780 RAZR).

            trust me, i’ll defintaley be looking forward to the reviews on the RAZR, but im pretty much sold on GNex.

  • Christopher Kubicek

    So will it have two sets of home keys or will the ICS virtual keys not be displayed? 

  • Cmonnats23

    Ughhh now I don’t know which one to get! I chose the g-nex because it
    had ics! Now if both have ics I may get the moto phone… the razr did
    have better specs for the most part… both 4g… I currently have the
    D2 and love it! I may just stick with moto. But I have always liked the
    screens on ss phones… what say all you guys?

  • Alexander Garcia

    Oh happy day! Now I don’t have to choose between ICS and Droid RAZR! I shall have both! Thank you.  🙂

  • jbonics

    So in other words when they announce 5.0 jellywhatever you will get 4.0 ICS cappppeeeshh. Wait there not the old Motorola, maby it will come sooner. Google tighten up. I will flash that nexus prime to MetroPCS so fast it will make Verizon’s head spin. $299 off contract /’s. Google it.

    • Guesty

      dude, what’re you even saying??

  • Anonymous

    Are there any other phones scheduled to come out between now and January for Verizon? I’m confused because the names were always changing the past few months. There was the Prime and the droid HD that I can remember. Were the phones that were announced yesterday these 2?

    • Anonymous

       HTC Rezond.. aka Vigor

      • Anonymous

        And given the Verizon roadmap we keep seeing, one would expect to hear something about the Rezound VERY very soon (due out same day as RAZR and Nexus).

  • Bigbox9192

    Hella ppl on here bash Motorola’s UI, not realizing it borrows from the xoom’s honeycomb interface. Isn’t honeycomb the basis for ICS?!?!

  • Bcorrell34

    Will someone please give me the low-down on both devices? I’m not a tech guy but would like someone knowledgeable to put the tech specs into functional language for me. I’m buying a new phone in November and would like to know the differences. How about the 4S? Is it true that it’s processor with the graphics make it faster than these phones?

    • Kixofmyg0t

      You’re about to get railed for asking about a i*hone on Droid-Life…..just sayin…..

      • Bcorrell34

        I know, I’d never get the 4S. I hate apple, I just wanted to know if that rumor was true or not since I’m not too techy.

        • Anonymous

          So far, that “rumor” is true.

  • Billy Jenkins

    I heard HTC will rename the ICS update to “Icecream puddle” because thats what it will be when some HTC phones receive it.

  • I’m a big fan of Moto’s hardware, but the Bionic was a big let down. I’ve never had a Android that wasn’t a Moto, but the Bionic was so bad I’m getting rid of it to get the Nexus. I’m on the ship with the rest of us who are tired of Moto jerking us around. Like how do you make people wait 9 months to release a crappy product and then come out with a real product 2 months after that? I’m definitely looking forward to a vanilla version of Android again.

  • Billy Jenkins

    I predict my rooted thunderbolt will receive Ice Cream Sandwich before Gingerbread is even officially released.

  • hatethanet

    Did Moto promise a timetable for updating their Froyo devices to GB? Where they close to being on time with those?

  • Anonymous

    That commercial just sold it! I love the RAZR, with the accent. 🙂

  • My DO is running 2.3, so i can haz ICS too?

  • This is the best looking smartphone evar imo

  • Bionic

    YESSSS.  This is great news for Bionic owners

  • a42ozslushie

    I’m sticking with my Bionic. I don’t want my signal dropped every 10 minutes.

  • bigrob60

    “On related note, Google’s Matias Duarte and Gabe Cohen assure us that almost every Android 2.3 device “should” be able to run ICS. Whether your 2.3 device will receive it or not is up to manufacturers.”
    Pay attention to that last line. Up to manufacturers. I’m so fed up w/ that B.S. 

    • Bionic

      Well motorola is owned by google now so im not worried as a bionic owner

      • Madcow06

        Not yet they’re not.

  • Anonymous

    Ultimately one has to think practically and weigh in what feature of your phone would be used most often by you.

    1. I love taking pictures/videos with my mobile camera.. so I need as good a camera on my phone as possible
        Most likely the RAZR wins on this.

    2. I want my phone to look sleek and sexy… to me, this is a tie.. though I am slightly leaning toward the razr on this

    3. I need a decent.. if not excellent battery life out of my phone regardless of whether it has removable or non-removable battery – Razr most likely wins on this one.. because of better battery management with smartapps (I think)

    4. Even though the ICS is definitely a game changer.. somehow I get the feeling the RAZR has more built-in productive apps and features that I might find useful. Motocast for example.

    5. I like to always think that with android.. I am buying the hardware.. because thankfully.. android software/UI’s can be changed, swapped, switched etc. So would I rather be stuck with ICS on a not-so-hot-hardware-wise device? or should I buy the better hardware with official confirmation of ICS update.. and unofficial update to ICS in the near future?

    6. Motorola is known for their call quality and signal strength… the RAZR is sure to be better in that department than the gnex.

    7. The new Motoblur is not as intrusive as it used to be before..

    8. Again.. software features are easily gettable… hardware cannot be changed..

    • Bewara2009

      I am with you on that bro, razr can’t come any faster……… 

    • Anonymous

      Ok, So you’re leaning towards the RAZR?? lol  🙂

      • Anonymous

         yea.. i don’t want to marry a girl just because she is very hot and glamorous. After a short while.. I don’t want to lose interest and also find out that she is sooo not my type and that we have nothing in common.

        • Anonymous

          Yeah but if the sexual conncetion is there then you might want to try it out for 30 days then break up via text for the G Nex lol

          • Anonymous

             thats not a bad idea at all.. LOL.

          • Anonymous

            😉

    • Anonymous

      Have you actually looked at pictures from a moto phone?  They’re horribly washed out and lack color depth.

      If taking pictures with your phone is that important to you then that should automatically disqualify you from considering moto phones.

      I say this as a Xoom, OG, DX, DX2 owner.

      Run away from Moto’s cameras.

      • Anonymous

        Another thing to consider is Motorola’s lag time on getting updates on their phones.  The Sammy is the reference device for ICS and will therefore be getting updates first

      • Anonymous

         You may be right.. but I heard the optics on the RAZR are better than those on the bionic… hence my presumption.
        I am waiting for the camera pictures of the razr to leak so that I can see for sure.. but I’ve seen the ones for gnex on endgadget and I am not impressed with the quality at all.

    • Dave

      Have fun with your RAZR then. 🙂 

    • Anonymous

      Did you see last night’s demo? The Galaxy Nexus camera runs rings around any phone camera I’ve seen. The panorama feature alone is worth the price of admission, never mind the speed at which you can actually snap photos. I’ve owned several DSLRs and several Moto phones, incl. Bionic, and the cameras on the Moto phones have been mediocre at best.

      • Anonymous

        that could be true. We don’t even know if the razr camera is any better than that in the bionic (which is not too good I understand).

  • nxusnow

    im liking the razr more and more

  • Murphy

    Don’t hold your breath for the Thunderbolt.

  • Yiannis

    Shouldn’t we have some stock ICS leaked before then? Who cares about OTA… 

    Are there any performance enhancements in 4.0 over 2.3.5 or just a more intuitive UI is all there is. Don’t care much about face recognition, but would like performance enhancements for dual core phones.

  • Mike808

    I’m definitely getting the razr!
    Fast, sexy, super thin!
    I have no problem with new blur, but will surely have pure aosp ROM for it.
    So the advantage is all for this baby.

  • Sven Enterlein

    So how are the hardware buttons handled with ICS? Will they be used instead or will there be two sets of buttons?

    • Jeff Tycz

      if you look back at the video of the leaked ICS on the nexus s you only have hard buttons

  • Anonymous

    HA…thanks to the Dev community my OG Droid will see ICS sooner!  Too bad I’m up for an upgrade and will be rockin’ ICS on the Galaxy Nexus!!!

  • Anonymous

    The thunderbolt was supposed to get gingerbread “soon” as well.  You can’t even rom the Razr if motorolla decides to sit on their hands (which they will most likely do). 

    No thanks…

    • Madcow06

      How do you figure that? Bootloader is locked on the DX and every moto phone after and you can put roms on those just fine.

  • if only android users werent so limited in stock devices..then this would be mildly noteworthy. who wants to wait on alleged software upgrade dates when they so rarely arrive on time, especially with such a big jump like ICS.
    of course, thats for the non DL-rom toting user. 🙂

  • Anonymous

    Xoom owners know better than to fall for Moto’s empty promises.

  • Bewara2009

    Now all your nexus fan stop hitting, also its not too late to think about this phone 😉

  • Bcorrell34

    Alright, since most people in here seam to be very knowledgeable… what are the major differences in the specs? Reading it from a non-tech guy standpoint… they look awful similar. What are the advantages hardware wise with both phones? Obviously the software for the Nex is going to be killer especially with ICS being 720p native which is only available on the Nex for now.

    • Anonymous

      It’s not about the “specs” per say other than the obvious like the screen, but the main difference is that android 4.0 takes advantage of the GPU to draw it’s screens, where the Razr’s does not.  This makes the OS run smoother.

      • Bewara2009

        so that tells me u r more into the OS then the Phone, wow that’s all I have to say.

        • Bcorrell34

          So what happens when the Razr get’s 4.0…. will it be a better faster phone than the nex?

  • After Google completed its acquisition of Motorola, there is no excuse for them not to update all capable phones to the latest OS, period. How can Google explain to its customers that the Android team says its doable, but the hardware arm says no.

    There will also be no excuse not to ship phone with the stock OS. If Motorola wants to differentiate their phones, use apps, don’t mess with the underlying UI. Again, if Google’s own hardware arm doesn’t believe in its UI, how can it expect other OEMs do the same.

  • Anonymous

    how many of you have seen the picture samples taken with the gnex on the endgadget website and actually liked it?

    • EC8CH

      I thought the pictures taken with the G-Nex look consistently better than those taken with the i*hone. 

      Better color saturation, exposure, etc…

      • Anonymous

        And infinitely better than any camera in a moto phone.

    • Dave

      Considerably better than my Bionic. 

  • Benjamin Mackie

    If VZW didnt encrypt the bootloader, this would be my new phone, hands down

    • Sp4rxx

      Please explain why it is that important?  The Bionic was rooted less than a month after release – are you saying you can’t wait that long for a minor adjustment?

      • KevinC

        rooting a phone doesn’t have anything to do with the bootloader.

      • Anonymous

        Even if you root the Razr, verizon will know if you use a free wifi hotspot.  You need to also ROM the device to tether without worrying verizon jacking your bill up.  The Razr may never be “ROM”able.

        • Sp4rxx

          No, they won’t.  They just see a spike in your data usage and will throttle you if you peak in to the upper echelon of high bandwidth users.

          “The Razr may never be “ROM”able”
          ….which you don’t know…. so that argument is null and void

  • Anonymous

    Would have been nice if they said something about Bionic as well. Oh well. Even if they had mentioned Bionic, It doesn’t change my plans to sell mine along with the accessories and get a Galaxy Nexus. It’s not just the NFC, it’s the pure Android experience.

    And the barometer — w00t!

  • JP

    I’ll buy the RAZR over the Galaxy Nexus if that girl from the commercial comes with it!

    • DroidzFX

      You need the Razr to get the girl. Didnt you watch the commercial?

  • MJL

    If RAZR gets it before Bionic I will be pissed off.

    • Our Bionics are now outdated phones… There is no incentive for them to upgrade the Bionic because buyers are going to flock to RAZR or GN… unless they dump the price on the Bionic, which sucks too – from my perspective.

  • Turd_Ferguson

    Early 2012 huh? What does that really translate to? August2012? 

  • viewthis66

    I can’t wait to have a Google only phone. I don’t see my Tbolt getting ICS for a long time… if at all.

    • david cunningham

      ICS for TB? Ya HTC will say its not capable, aka buy our new phone that will have ICS! Here’s hoping google releases the source so devs can get to work on bringing ICS to TB owners.

  • I have the Bionic, and while it would be cool to be running ICS – the fact that ICS has software buttons and the Bionic (and Razr) have pre-made static buttons sure seems like it would make using ICS on these phones awkward. 🙁

    • Dave

      I believe the software buttons will be disabled for phones that have dedicated buttons. 

      • Right… Which would take up valuable screen real estate that makes sense at 1280×768, but I wonder at Bionic’s resolution… I just read an article quoting Andy Rubin who said that ICS will start rolling out to existing phoneS (s being key) within weeks of the GN launch… so – we shall see!

        • Dave

          When I mean disabled I mean they will be hidden, so it shouldn’ take up any screen real estate if the phone already has dedicated buttons. Remember the leaked Nexus S with ICS video?

          • Oh… I see. Ok, good point. That would be ok, I think? On the plus side, Bionic and Razr seem very similar in therms of specs so maybe upgrading one means the other gets the upgrade too… An maybe, just maybe… being part of Google (almost) will help 😀

          • Dave

            I wouldnt be surprised if the Bionic gets at least one upgrade (ICS) during its life cyle. The question would then be how blurred up will it be? 🙁

          • Madcow06

            It will definitely get ICS, There’s no way Moto will not upgrade any of their high end phones at least once.

  • Booboolala2000

    No thanks motoblur. Until google takes control and releases a non blur phone, I’ll be getting the Nexus. Nice hardware, but honestly, the delaying updates due to blur. Unnecessary. Plus ICS doesn’t need it. Yes Motorola has a pretty good record to updates. Better than Samsung. My Charge can tell you that. But if a Nexus updated by Google is an option in November, no contest for me.

  • Anonymous

    Moto just wants some time to put blur all over Ice Cream Sandwich.  They’ll have it slowed to a crawl; it’ll look more like molasses than Ice Cream.

    • Travisjshepherd

      more like a rocky road ICS with HUGE pecans to cut the roof of your mouth on!

  • kep

    you heard it hear first, it won’t happen in q1 2012, maybe quarter 2.

  • Anonymous

    I remember when my Xoom was supposed to get 4G just a few short months after release…. They broke my trust then, and I won’t be going back..

  • Anonymous

    As a former owner of the Thunderbolt I can say that these forecasts for software upgrades mean jack sh*t. 

    • Billy Jenkins

      I dont pay attention to them. I just check to see when an ICS rom is released so I can upgrade the software

  • Missthetrain

    That’s PR talk, what’s that in English?
    Sometime in 2025? give or take a couple of quarters.

  • Nobody

    Yeah, they’ll get it eventually, and it will most likely be a Moto-blurred version. Going with the Nexus.

  • Cmonnats23

    Ughhh now I don’t know which one to get! I chose the g-nex because it had ics! Now if both have ics I may get the moto phone… the razr did have better specs for the most part… both 4g… I currently have the D2 and love it! I may just stick with moto. But I have always liked the screens on ss phones… what say all you guys?

  • JG

    But….it has buttons….wouldn’t that look stupid?

    Does ICS even have support to use these buttons?

    • Anonymous

      Absolutely.

    • Anonymous

      Recall the original ICS leak on the Nexus S? That phone has hardware buttons and no softkeys were displayed. ICS will allow hardware keys and disable onscreen buttons where needed.

  • Early 2012 could mean anywhere from January to May, so I’m not counting on it being “only a couple months”.

  • i wonder how ICS will work… on screen buttons with off screen buttons? or will the on screen buttons be disabled? so will you lose the multi tasking button?

    • From watching the vid of it on a Nexus S, I think that the onscreen buttons just don’t appear, and the physical ones work as before.

    • Booboolala2000

      You would just press and hold the home button to launch the ICS multi-tasking function. And yes, those Honeycomb esque virtual buttons would easily be done away with for a phone with existing buttons.

  • Anonymous

    why is everyone so excited about Android beam? I mean seriously.. how many times in a day are you gonna bump your phone with another NFC enabled device to share things??

    • im sure every new android phone will have NFC… so im guessing you will have a lot of opportunities. not will you use it in those opportunities? that’s another question. 

      • Anonymous

        every new phone … except for Moto apparently.

        Even though I knew what was coming down the pike, and even bought one myself, I always laughed that a device that supposedly ‘rules all machines’ wasn’t going to include a key piece of hardware to make it fully compatible with the next version of Android. And they couldn’t put it in the RAZR either? FAIL.

        • Anonymous

          That’s because NFC is a gimmick.  I don’t want my phone to have access to my bank account.

          • Anonymous

            All kinds of things we take for granted today were scoffed at originally as gimmicks. .

            If you don’t want your phone dabbling in your bank account, then don’t allow access to it.

            NFC, as demonstrated in the yesterday’s event video, is about far more than buying overpriced coffee at Starbucks. Imagine pairing or syncing your phone w/various accessories by simply bumping them together (Moto already has headsets with this capability). Bluetooth pairing has never been that easy.

            Between NFC and the barometer (are there any other new sensors?), I’m excited to see what kind of apps we’ll see, and if I’m going to be keeping a phone for 2 years, I want to be be part of that excitement.

          • Anonymous

            Honestly, NFC based pairing and what google demonstrated with ICS is nice but it’s not necessary.  Bluetooth works well enough and how often are you really going to touch your phone with someone else’s? NFC is like 3D to me.

    • I will never use the bump feature.  Must been for tweens.  And WTH is the barometer for?

      • EC8CH

        for measuring atmospheric pressure… duh 😛

        • I see. There must be a large weather forecaster contingent within the Android community that I am unaware of…

      • More detailed weather information. I like this feature. Altimeter would have been nice.

    • Tabe

      In addition to Beam, NFC opens up the ability to use Google Wallet and pay for stuff using your phone (among other things NFC can and will be able to do).

  • Kierra

    Razr for me. I showed my friends this and the new nexus. Without all the tech mumbo jumbo they want this. I definitely see the appeal. 

    • Anonymous

      You or your friends don’t like to root and rom?

      • Anonymous

         u can still root and rom on motorola devices if I am not mistaken.

        • Anonymous

          Yes, but……. nevermind

  • The Vid was pretty funny.  It wasn’t a robot battling ninja, but it will do.

  • Anonymous

    jeez!.. European ads are always so cheezy!… they focus on dramatics more than the actual product itself. 

  • Anonymous

    Early 2012? Just like they were going to unlcock there bootloaders in late 2011?

    • Or 4G will be available on the Xoom shortly after launch…. yeah, right.

    • Jarred Sutherland

      Love the “SHOULD” thrown in there. 

      That means hey, if it’s a lot of work we just wont do it.

    • Anonymous

      bootloader on this is unlockable on euro carriers. vzw fucked that up for us.

  • Anonymous

    this along with the fact that the Razr has better over all specs.. makes it a strong contender for me. 

    • Anonymous

      Strong contender spec wise but the question comes down to whether you want a developer phone or not.

      If not then it is preference.

    • Anonymous

      I like the phones specs and design, but one thing i hate is BLUR, that alone will lead me to Galaxy Nexus.

      • Anonymous

         the new motoblur isn’t bad AT ALL..

        • Yeah, I kinda like it.

          • survivor

            Yeah, ‘I kinda like it ‘ is the best people can say about Blur. Nobody loves it.

          • Kierra

            i do

          • Thelulz

            no that is not possible

        • Motorola’s Unfied Inbox is pretty amazing. I am running a custom ROM but I flashed the inbox onto my phone lol

      • Jordan

        What is wrong with the new blur? 

        What phone are you using ?

        • Colekane_ry

          DX and I hate the new blur! used to love my DX and ever since the gingerbread update along with the new blur it has been horrible! 

          • Jordan

            Ahh i see. I got rid of my DX before i could really use GB on it. I love Android 2.3.4 on my D3 its so fast and the blur adds some nice features.

          • What features?  I’m curious because I have a D2G, and blur kills it for me. 

          • Jordan

            to name a few, the quick contacts widget, the redesigned “Home screen app mover/placement” (Not sure what its called but moving apps and widgets is a LOT smoother now.), not sure if my DX GB came with motoprint but it is very handy when you want to print something on the wifi network. Just a few off the top of my head

          • Cool, thanks man.  I absolutely hate this phone, the battery life sucks, it lags, etc…   I’m torn about the RAZR, I’m loathe to buy another motorola phone.  Maybe the dual core makes it better.

    • WAldenIV

      To bloatware or not to bloatware.  That is the question.

      – Hamlet

    • Anonymous

      Better overall specs… than the G-Nex? How?

      • Thinner, lighter, HDMI, Micro SD slot.

        • Anonymous

          Thinner, lighter aren’t technical specs and can even be considered personal preference. It has a smaller screen with lower resolution as well, so that isn’t necessarily a plus (again though, personal preference on screen size). HDMI can be through the MHL port. Micro SD is definitely a huge plus.

          Both phones are great, but the RAZR is definitely not more technologically advanced and it’s lack of NFC detracts from its future proofing. Just sayin’.

          • I consider size and weight a spec when comparing phones. I think most would too. As a whole, most people don’t prefer heavier thicker phones. Just sayin.

          • Anonymous

            Well, by that logic, the RAZR is also lacking in screen technology and size.

          • Anonymous

            I love your enthusiasm for Moto – I share it as well having owned both the OG and DX (which is currently still my daily driver). The point was that the RAZR is not better spec’d than the Nexus.

  • Some Random Dude

    Doesnt matter, getting Nex

    • right there with you on that one!!

      • Anonymous

        SAME!

    • Kixofmyg0t

      u mad bro?

      • Some Random Dude

        mad? no.. im happy as hell 😀

        • Kixofmyg0t

          ur “happy” as you call it is fail because it doesn’t have NFC and unlocked bootloader. Therefor, you fail at life.

          • Some Random Dude

            the hell are you talking about?!

          • Kixofmyg0t

            Don’t you know? THE GALAZHY NUSES HAZ NFC! Do you know what that means?!?!? Well neither do I but IT HAZ TO BE TEH BEST!

          • Some Random Dude

            yea .. i do know that.. and?..

          • Kixofmyg0t

            any?…AND?!!?!?

            and it’s gonna be WAY BETTER than those puny Quad-Core tablets and phones coming out in the next couple months because it haz NFC!!! I mean NFC MAN! We can DO ANYTHING with NFC!

            Solve world hunger….
            Goto the moon(for real this time)…..
            Win the war on terror….

            NFC makes ANYTHING BETTER! Try some on ur cheeseburger! 1000% better right?

          • Some Random Dude

            yup 

          • Str8RippinEm

            are you ok?

          • Billy Jenkins

            any phone has the ability to be unlocked thanks to xda so thats not a big deal. NFC also isn’t that big of a deal until stores start using NFC payment machines. because all it does now is transfer content from one NFC phone to another. thats not worth $300

          • Anonymous

            Normal people do not care about bootloader lol. This thing of beauty has a slim design, great ffc, best radios and the third best display excluding the retina and the super amoled Hd. Razor is a winner 🙂

      • jelly?

        • Anonymous

          why yes…yes i’ll have grape on my toast thanks, unless you’re offering scrambled eggs, then it has to be strawberry…

    • Anonymous

      But, you’ll get to have sex with a hot euro chick, in an elevator, if you get the Razr.  Are you crazy?

      • Some Random Dude

        hmm.. i could always pretend that my gf is European. 

        • Kixofmyg0t

          OR you could continue to pretend you have a girlfriend. Make sure her bootloader is unlocked or she’s fail….not even IF she has NFC.

          • Some Random Dude

            y u no make sense?

          • Kixofmyg0t

            I’m trying to get the Nexus trolling thing down so I can be like all teh cool kids.

          • Billy Jenkins

            You sound very educated. Where did you learn your spelling from? I’d like to know

          • Kixofmyg0t

            Galaxy Nexus college thank you very much, my major was NFC.

          • Billy Jenkins

            well since NFC is pretty useless until stores start using the technology then that explains your lack of intelligence

          • Kixofmyg0t

            You seemed to miss my MASSIVE amount of sarcasm in every post. I’m pointing out how the Nexus trolls look when commenting on EVERY DL post about NFC this Galaxy Nexus that….it’s a useless feature but they act like its the second coming of Jesus or something.

          • Some Random Dude

            umad?

          • NFC4Life
          • Anonymous

            Nfc is on it’s infancy retard.

        • Billy Jenkins

          yea until you pull out your Gnex and realize your gf was actually a dude the entire time.

          • Some Random Dude

            oh billy, you and your fantasies 🙂

          • Lgreg64

            dudes love Gnex

      • Anonymous

        LMAO!!!  I would’ve been pulling something else out instead of a damn phone!!!!!!  She is hot and no RAZR involved 😛

    • tom

      Will the bottom keys still be usable with ICS?

      • Some Random Dude

        hmm, i havent thought of that.. *shrugs*

      • Kixofmyg0t

        Yes they will still work. It’s pretty damn simple to change the input calls from the addressed screen space to the hardware assigned buttons.

      • Calculatorwatch

        I’m guessing they’ll keep the bottom keys with their same function and not have the onscreen keys like the early ICS version on the Nexus S.

        Hopefully they will change the menu key to the multitasking button so you don’t have to hold the home key. I doubt it though, and quick multitasking is definitely one of my favorite parts of Ice Cream Sandwich.

  • Anonymous

    Why doesn’t a device this capable and sexy have NFC!!?? After seeing Android Beam, this is a huge oversight!

    • Where would you put it?

    • Jordan

      Call me ignorant but i don’t think it adds anything new. Doesn’t it just change the way we connect?

      If that’s the case, i’m sure we can afford to spend 5 seconds pairing a device or texting/bluetooth a picture to our friends…

      • I would love to have access to other things that use the technology, like my bus pass or unlocking doors, but there needs to be a bigger consumer following before the devs get into it.

        • Jordan

          Ahh yes, i missed that part. Thank You.

          • I think that Google wallet is working to get those stupid keyring things integrated as well.

          • Jordan

            i use a keyring app.. lol cant get a damn barcode to scan because of the glare on my DROID 3 🙁

    • Do you really need NFC? Are all your friends and family getting a NFC phone? Are you going to share that much with them? No, NO, NO.

      • Anonymous

        x2  This is as useful to me as iMessage.  Nobody I know has iPhones, so to get it for that feature (or for FaceTime or whatever) is pointless.  NFC will have its uses but not before the Nexus is outdated.

      • Anonymous

        To each his own. This tech is sweet and there are limitless capabilities. Like it or not, agree or not, it should have it. Period. Maybe not a huge oversight, but an oversight nonetheless. 

      • JG

        id like some google wallet action on VZW thank you very much

  • strizzle843

    With the thunderbolt having such a dev following any one think my bolt might get some 4.0 love???

    • Anonymous

      Of course.

      • strizzle843

        Sweet!!!

    • its possible… but i plan on having a nexus before that will probably happen! lol

      • strizzle843

        Buying my first home in Nov def not looking at buying any new phone the bolt is decent once rooted really interested in this 4.0 thou

    • CEO just said they are reviewing ICS for their latest phones and as long as performance is ok, they will probably update them.

    • MattC0509

      TeamBamf is already asking whether more people on their site are leaning towards the Rezound or Nexus so they can figure out which way to initially focus their efforts so I would say this will definitely make its way to the Tbolt

  • Jordan

    This is exciting, can’t wait to see what Ice Cream Blurwich looks like 🙂 lolol

    • Anonymous

      Ha!

      • Jordan

        I’M SERIOUS! 🙁

    • Anonymous

      Motoblur + Android 4.* = Irritating Crap Sandwhich.

      • Anonymous

        Man, you couldn’t have said it any better 🙂  The G Nex is it for me, but I do like the styling of the RZR and I see where Moto has done some improvements to their Blur.  But, VZW will throw their junk on the RAZR as well hogging up the memory, plus the all knowing boot loader locked down but hell you can root that. 

        The G Nex is looking better and better.

      • Anonymous

        Keep crying

      • Anonymous

        U mad?

    • Insect Overlord

      LOL!  With Moto and Android, more like Soup Sandwich.

  • KevinC

    Like the Xoom 4G and SD card support would only be a couple of months?

  • undercontrol

    “Early 2012” in the real world, with Moto Blur integrated into ICS, will most likely mean the RAZR will get ICS earliest around June of 2012.  C’mon. Don’t get too excited.  So this means HTC phones will most likely get ICS in the 2nd half of 2012. Maybe August or September of 2012? lol…

    • then jawbreaker(jellybean) will be announced and they will continue to be behind. 

  • When is it going to get a removable battery?  “Wow, that is an awfully thin phone you have plugged into that charger.” 🙂

  • Anonymous

    Please be a Vanilla. Please be Vanilla!

    • Nope. Verizon will skin it with VSmart. Built in widgets, messaging apps, etc.

      • but with the ability to now block apps and remove them from the app drawer built into ICS thats not as big of an issue anymore…

        • Don’t hold your breath. If they want, they can customize it to a point that the app disabling feature is not accessible.