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Reaction to Apple’s iPhone 4S Announcement?

Soooo, anything new in the tech world today?  Ahhh yes, the iPhone 4S.  While Apple execs stood on stage – sans Steve Jobs – to announce their latest and greatest, we all probably had a variety of thoughts run through our heads.  This post, will serve as a place for you to release them – keeping it clean of course.

What are we thinking?  Well, the first thing that comes to mind is, “Man, do I love Android.”  And why is that the first thing I think of after watching the i*hone 4S (had to!) unveiling?  Because Android in its current state, can innovate so much quicker than anyone else.  

Apple and iOS have created a handful of ground breaking products in their time, but it no longer feels like they are doing that on the mobile front.  Android is built to be developed for at an incredible pace and it just feels like everyone is sort of playing catch-up at this point.  Look at iOS 5 and all of the new features that look straight out of the pages of Android 2.1:  notifications, voice actions, Google Latitude Find My Friends, etc. Or how about the dual-core processor and 8MP camera that Apple included?  All January’s news in the Android world.

Now, does Apple take the time to really polish up their products?  They most certainly do.  Their cameras are miles ahead of most Android cameras aside from maybe the Galaxy SII.  Their screen, although extremely small, is still one of the finest in the world.  I sometimes wish Android manufacturers would try to adapt to some of the quality standards that Apple has become known for.  Who doesn’t want better built products with higher quality materials?

With all that said though and even with this new phone announcement, it’s such an exciting time for Android. The next Nexus is just around the corner with the newest version of Android aka Ice Cream Sandwich. The holidays have more superphones lined up than we had imagined (Vigor, Nexus, DROID HD, etc.).  And quad-core processors in tablets will be here in no time.  Android, baby.  That’s my reaction.

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  • Really cool pic of the upcoming iPhone 5.  

  • Coltenbuckelew

     There was many rumors about an iPhone 5 but Apple would of course do what they always do 3, 3s, 4, 4s and I personally love both Android and iPhone. Right now I lean more towards a 4s then the Galaxy Nexus because i dislike the look of most Galaxy phones but I do like the OS. And some of you should really stop hating on Apple and the iPhone, if you don’t like the phone don’t buy it because all of you are acting like potheads saying drugs should be legalized and it makes you sound ignorant.   Android=iPhone  zuneyour dick

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  • hatethanet

    Well, it looks like Apple’s iPhone marketing dept still has the touch, even though their hardware dept does not. Preorder sales on AT&T look slightly better than the numbers for the iPhone 4 last year: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-08/at-t-says-preorders-for-new-apple-iphone-4s-broke-company-s-sales-records.html

  • Y-care

    The problem with android is Verizon and Motorola etc  ADVERTISEMENTS ADVERTISEMENTS ADVERTISEMENTS of which I am sick, of..Keep your droids until SOMEONE takes control !! I hate iphone BUT That’s EXACTLY WHAT I BOUGHT IO GET RID OF ALL THE CRAP WARE THAT NO ONE CAN REMOVE KEEP YOUR ANDROID VERIZON,and all you American consumers enjoy your crap ware for breakfast, lunch , dinner, and snacks..Dumbest consumers in the world!
    As long as you keep buying THEY will keep adding crapware. PS  did you really need yet another crippled iphone on the market ??!! Android , after a year was far ahead of iphone because it wasn’t castrated by Jobs so another castration needed, not really…Control over carriers HELL YES!

    • Kellogx

      U mad Bro?

  • 94goldenbear

    After nearly two years and 3 different Android phones (Eris, OG Droid, Droid X), it’s time to move on.  I’m tired of cycling the X on and off multiple times per day to either unfreeze it or get it to speed up.  The OG Droid is another issue entirely….it’s dead slow and half the physical buttons simply do not function.  I hope Google gets a handle on the severely fragmented OS distribution model and polishes things up.  The competition is good for all.  I’ve been a HUGE Android fanboy for the past two years, regularly poking fun at friends / co-workers with their iPhones, but I’m tired of constantly feeling like I have to fiddle with it (custom ROM’s, widgets, rooting, etc.) to get a clean experience….I’m at a point where I just want the damn thing to work.  Take it easy, Droid-Life.

  • Collin

    Wait… What about 4g?

    Well, now I have yet another reason to not get an i*hone. =P

  • i*hone 4Shiri?

  • Everyday Guy

    As an iPhone owner I was completely underwhelmed. Although I thought Siri was pretty cool.

  • Anonymous

    iPhone’s are trendy that is the key to their success…doesn’t really have much to do with the hardware etc…People line up for them and proclaim to friends I just got the new one.  These type of people will still flock every new product, that won’t change.  The more tech based people are the only ones who care about specs and open platforms.  I own Galaxy S and really like it, I need to be able to make changes to my phone, that’s me.  So there will still be this divide among smartphone users…maybe cause I am older (36), don’t follow trends and can never understand the appeal of iPhones and never will.  I mean I cannot stand the flat brimmed baseball caps people wear these days, they look horrible in my opinion…but my style will come back…just a trend going on now.  About these phones it is like an atheist vs a religious person, cannot use logic to fight someone who has blind faith….not worth the effort…competition is good.

    • Paulssocks

      I dont think it’s an age thing. I’m in my 40s. I find that iPhone just does what I want simply but effectively. I set my iPhone up to my work served and it works seamlessly, I set my colleagues S 2 up and it constantly fails. She has major issues with her messaging, updating has been difficult for her and she can’t understand why she might need an antivirus! I think each of us picks what suit. I like iPhones simplicity, that it, I don’t mind having one device that links everything I do at home, work and play without having to mess around. Like I said earlier though, I wasn’t impressed and now have to decide to I want to back to android and give up the easy and seamless integration iPhone offers me.

  • HADXS

    I love how you all act like you don’t care about the iPhone. But you do and man … you just love how Apple screw up. If anything, you are the same as the Apple fanboys you proclaim to hate.

  • Paullssocks

    I don’t actually think Apple did do lots of asdvertising and hyping, as an iPhone user I was disappointed at just how quiet they were. I think the phone will be a quality phone, high end build quality. I am disappointed that they didn’t present something more innovative, different or unique. I have used many other phones and like apple software and hardware, this though was a real let down. Not sure what my upgrade will be now.

  • Anonymous

    all apple had to do was increase the screen size to 4 inches and name the phone iphone 5. It would have been the biggest thing ever among the fanboys

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  • Anonymous

    maybe its too early for me to read properly… but where is the question everybody should be asking: “no 4g apple?”

  • …and Siri will a white kid but not a brown adult for sure….

  • hatethanet

    Leaders at Apple are pretty brainless without Jobs, imo. The average iPhone buyer doesn’t care too much about faster processors when buying the newest model. For them, it’s more of a vanity product. They care about showing off the “newest, hottest” gadget which doesn’t really apply here since it looks exactly like the old model. Not redesigning this new model WILL bite these guys in the asses.

  • iPhone4real

    You have all been drinking the same Kool-Aid…. Any droid phone sucks to the bone! Apple forever will rule the market.

    • Anonymous

      congratulations. After 18 months of waiting Apple gave you the same processor from the ipad2 and a better camera.  Big whoop.  Enjoy your new old phone

    • say that 100 times real fast and maybe you too will believe it.
      i tried an early version of siri(which means buttocks in japanese) 🙂
      i said why is the iphone 4s such a disappointment and a picture of the android green guy popped up. so siri is pretty amazing 🙂

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  • Ok we now know why apple is suing to keep all android products off the shelves because they knew that not already but in the future they still couldn’t compete.  I watched the blog of the conference with a very open mind and was really expecting even more of androids features to come than are there.  whats the weather great oh wait ill just look at my widget that i would say most android users have on at least 1 of the screens.   same small screen, still special connectors, look at the battery life chart , as we all know you can cut all battery charts by 25% at least from what i read i think the battery life looks to be pretty bad even with no 4g.  the speed increase they pushed during the presentation is laughable, you will see no speed increase on anything but att(or maybe overseas) and since it never hit any of those supposed speeds before im betting there is absolutely nothing new there.  Record send up to a server for recognition and return to phone hmm sounds familiar i hope google has a patent on that.  
    This is the first time i have ever seen apple announce a product and have their stock go down.
    It seems to be a decent phone and many people will enjoy it and it has many features people will like.
    and it will be fine for many as long as they hold it right of course.
    But If you compare feature to feature theres only 1 example i can think of being from colorado.
    the iphone 4s is the broncos and android is Greenbay.
    there wasnt even a thought about who was getting their ass kicked , a bronco fanboy would pick out a few things that they thought showed the broncos were really competitive. a true sports fan could see how outclassed one team was from the other.
    And i am a bronco fan as i am an android fan but very open minded and i can say if the iphone had a larger screen and 4g/lte etc. with the better camera it would be a competitor (not for me i use flash alot) But with orton and no running back or i mean a tiny screen and 3g in oct 2011 they really need an early draft pick for the iphone 5 to even become a wildcard team at this point.
    No iphone lovers bashing needed.  if you like it great and i think youll enjoy it just fine.  i would prefer better cloud implementaion built in android(although easy to do just not stock) and ciri seems like it has promise. but what was shown wasnt impressive.  “i want to wake up at 8 am”  “set alarm clock to 8am”  “find me chinese resturants”  “chinese resturants” use google maps.  is there really a difference here??
    but it says beta so well see where they go with it.
    to conclude the price points seem ok to me.  i have always thought apple has over priced their products and the price points here just seem very reasonable for the times.  im sure youll be able to find the 16gb version for 150 on cantract which i think is very fair and that surprised me.
    Lets hope october 11 isnt just as disapointing.

  • Taco

    Why does apple praise themselves on being number 1 in sales on the iPhone? All they have is JUST ONE PHONE!! What other options are they really giving people? How come they don’t do a comparison between iPhones and Android phones instead of any single android phone. Their heads are so big!

  • Mosskingpin

    I hope this doesn’t cause a delay in releasing the nexus prime. Now that the pressures off

  • Wildy85

    Couldn’t have been happier to be an Android User. PRIME and VIGOR are my next two choices, since I have the luxury of having a personal and work phone.

    I kinda had a hunch the next iteration of iphone would not be anything major but rather an upgrade, however significant, from the current model. But still i was hoping apple would come with something more worthwhile. I guess I had higher expectations from cupertino giant than the average joe. Or did I?
    Either way , these are exciting times.

  • Wildy85

    Being a tech enthusiast and a verizon employee , I couldn’t be happier to have such a great variety of phones around. 

  • Taco

    I agree with most comments here regarding the 4s just being slightly polished up than the previous.
    As for this new and improved antenna, it’s only gonna be as good as the network provider allows it to be. Right?
    Of course they have it on there website in small print…”Availability and network speeds depend on the carrier’s network.” 
    Why did they fail to mention that? They really emphasized that it’s gonna push out a LTE equivilent of 14.4Mbps? On what network would this be on? At&T? That would really be your only option. Even than AT&T doesn’t have the best coverage out there… It’s not gonna “be magically a million times better and faster” with JUST a nice antenna. Take a look at this…http://gizmodo.com/5846655/att-iphone-4s-will-be-faster-than-verizon-and-sprints

    Without Verizon’s LTE, why even bother? Just a nice camera? It’s a phone! Faster processor? Been there done that! Siri? Really? Go get some real friends that will talk back to you. iCloud? I love my Google Music, Photobucket, Dropbox, etc.

  • Legoturte92

    I just want the I*hones Screen and camera in my Bionic

  • Towel73

    Smartphones are becoming a mature technology. I can see from a business standpoint why Apple is going to milk this cash cow as long as possible. Incremental improvements versus revolutionary changes are going to be norm for both iPhones and Android devices.

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  • Anonymous

    You took the words out of my mouth kellex. Nobody can compete with ios when it comes to the cam and display.

  • Anonymous

    I think everyone is missing the bigger picture. This phone is going to be really GOOD. You have to realize this phone will be optimized to use dual-core meaning its probably going to be faster than any android phone on the market modded or not. The camera will probably be digital camera quality. Yeah it may look like the same crap but this phone will be amazing for apple fans. 

    • I agree with a lot of people on here in saying, I’ll just bring my real camera with me…  And I think you missed the point.  Everyone out there wanted the Iphone 5…  something to directly compete with any of the android phones out or coming out for at least 6 months…  but you got a slightly faster processor and other minor tweaks… 

      This Good phone is not the Great phone everyone expected…

      • Anonymous

        I’m in no way an apple fan but I have to give credit where credit is due. This is a brand new phone period. It may have specs similar to the average android phone out there but tell me what phone utilizes dual-core? Not my Droid 3. Its running iOS5 which is basically the most important aspect of the whole thing. NOT THE LOOK. Don’t get too caught up in aesthetics because the point is this will be a great PHONE.  

  • Can we go back to the posts where everyone was boasting about the i*phone 5…  Cause I want them to eat crow

  • Benjamin Landwehr

    Disappointed.  Would have liked to see something more innovative than add stuff that’s been out.  A nicer camera is nice, but not a reason for me to buy a new phone.  If I really want good pictures, I’ll use a real camera.  Even the iPhone doesn’t compare to that.  But for quick use and if I want to capture something real fast or take some memorable pictures with my friends, a phone is fine.

    Android is definitely the more powerful of the two operating systems. It is able to run on more hardware, it is far more flexible than IOS and it allows users to customize their systems to what they feel is best suitable for them. That said, because of fragmentation, the very wide range of hardware running hardware, and hardware manufacturers and wireless vendors loading custom ROMs and crapware, a great many Android phones are not quite what they could be, and many have become frustratingly slow. IMHO the trick to android is to stick to the pure Google experience variants (Vanilla Android), on the most powerful hardware you can find. Then you will be assured of a relatively trouble free experience that you can modify to your liking and without vendor software that can’t be uninstalled or UI overlays that might conflict with other software..

    IOS on the other hand is nowhere near as user friendly. What it is is simple and incredibly stable because it is pegged to very specific hardware and because apple places severe limits on how the software functions with the hardware and how users can modify it, you end up with a system that is beautifully consistent and stable. The systems ends up not being as advanced, but from a USER POV it is generally a friendlier and more reliable environment in the long term. That, however was not the question being asked.

  • Anonymous

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  • Lynahred

    Apple puts the A in LTE because for them LTE will by LATE, LATE, LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Chesshine5000

    Android Sucks!  Ok, well they don’t suck, but they are super glitchy.  I have been all android since the OG, and they all glitch up regularly.  I mean, be honest Android users, they are buggy.  I have the Thunderbolt now, and it is nice, but still it glitches up, and doesn’t always work when I need it to, plus it is MAD power hungry.  I ain’t by any means saying that App!e is the way to go, but it would be nice if Android could take all of these AWESOME features like widgets for instance, and actually polish them until they work seamlessly, instead of just doing more and more and more.  Cmmon guys give us some more quality!

    • Benjamin Landwehr

      Really? ..If you’d of said this in 2009, even 2010, I’d agree easily.  My OG Droid was great, but boy was that glitchy.  But not lately.  My Droid 3 has had ZERO problems besides few force closes.  And a lot of my friends newer phones are the same way.  Sure, there are more bugs then iOS has, but iOS allows fewer stuff on it.  But those “bugs” aren’t that bothersome anymore because they’re not to noticeable.  Newer models definitely don’t have the problem too much anymore man.  So, I don’t know if you’ve been using lower end models or old models, but that’s not really the case.  If it was, I’d hate Android.

      And please people, don’t say iPhone does not force close.  My brother has it.. it does.  The difference is, Android tells you while iPhone’s apps just randomly shut down so you’re like, “what the..?”.

  • Anonymous

    My first reaction was to see if it had LTE on Verizon, and then to shrug and go back to enjoying Android when I found that it doesn’t.

    It sure is funny to read the Apple fanboys’ defense of this lukewarm upgrade, though.  “I’m glad it doesn’t have LTE, because everyone knows that LTE drains batteries!”  Spoken like someone who’s never experienced LTE speeds.

  • How could they not include 4G LTE?  Now i*hone users will have to wait another year for that goodness.

  • En28so

    They should have at least put a bigger screen on the new iPhone and changed the design a little.

    • hatethanet

      Agreed. a 3.5″ screen on a “multimedia” phone is no longer adequate in this day and age. A new design woulda made it sell like crazy. The addition of LTE with no other changes on next year’s model woulda made that one sell like crazy.

  • hatethanet

    Check out this poll at PC Mag: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394111,00.asp#fbid=dXl9ZX7XK3j . We’ll really see how good Apple’s marketing dept really is if they can make this mediocre upgrade a smash hit.

  • Clawson8282

    While I was waiting for 5 months for the Bionic, yes I was waiting for the Bionic and yes I am extremely happy with it, I had frequent access to my father’s iphone 4, yes I said my father’s. With complete honesty I can say that the iphone 4 was the buggiest piece I have ever used. Constant forced closes, even from respectable Apps, the camera app locking up, always having to restart. Now on my first Android phone things run much smoother and the complexity and customability is uncomparable. No contest

  • ybclew

    Are you serious.   Apple announced the dual core A5 last november and launched it with the iPAD that launched prior to the new android models and they announced the processor back in November. I agree on the notifications system however, the A5 processor is still faster then snapdragon used by android.  the only item that does not beat the other phones on the market is the screen size.  Other then that it is an all new phone.  can someone here tell me the difference in the form factor of the galaxy phones other then the screen size.   lets look at them spec for spec and not just for the form factor.   I for one am ecstatic.  same screen size same size phone, i won’t feel like i am caring an kindle in my back pocket for a phone, and iCloud  that type os service is subscription based only with android.   

  • Bioniccommando4231

    Did AAPL just surrender to Android today? The largest company in the world had 16 months to work on this and all they came up with is a polished camera and software bits android has had for two years?

    I think I just saw AAPL become MSFT.

    I was hoping for a good challenge to drive innovation. Other than the siri, looks like apple just gave up. Amazing.

  • I am now on the fence. I have owned an iPhone since its first release in 2007. So far I have gotten every model as soon as it comes out. Today I am waiting to see how this model stacks against the Nexus Prime. Android owners have some cool features now that I have been patiently waiting for for some time on the iOS front. 

    iOS5 is really going to have some crazy must have features to keep me eating the forbidden fruit. Too little to late is my fear at the moment. This past year has been a huge migration of my digital life to the cloud. iTunes match sounds cool; but what would I need it for if I have spotify now?  With iCloud I can have my documents and pictures synced. All that is great but now that I have a Macbook Air i find that I am in the habit of just saving to a cloud drive by default and dont need store things on my onboard memory. After all when i go to work i can only use a company machine. Cloud drives bring my content to the company machine better than iCloud will.

    In the end the new Siri feature is the only thing that might keep me. That being said I really just want some damn widgets already. Google Ao is just around the corner and I am watching this very closely. Apple you are in danger of loosing a fanboy. Can you sense the disturbance in the force?

  • Anonymous

    I am very meh.  This is Apple catching up to the pack but not exceeding it.  Which is good, their phone is one of the better built ones in the world, its screen resolution has yet to be equalled (which will soon be changing with the 720p screens coming out), it’s camera is still in the top 3 (and this is before today’s upgrade). There is very little that Apple absolutely needed to do.

    But I am disappointed that the form factor didn’t change and that the screen stayed the same size.  The iPhone 4 and 4S are the most striking looking phones out there, but their glass contruction is the ultimate example of form over function.  It should really be some type of metal or soft touch plastic.  And now a 4″ or greater screen is a necessity for me, I can’t go back to 3.5″. Which sucks because I was kind of looking forward to going iPhone. Hopefully the Nexus delivers.

  • JediWebGeek

    As far as Siri is concerned, I’m not aware of anything remotely close to this functionality on the Android platform. If I’m wrong, please correct me. And I have a feeling that if Android fans found out their next phone was going to have a tablet CPU in it, they’d be freaking out, but I could be wrong.

    • Colin Zack

      Uhhh, the dual core processors in most phones are better than the Tegra processors in the first batch of android tablets right? Someone correct me if I’m wrong

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  • Guest

    i need help Droid Bionic or iPhone 4S ?
    i have Droid X for 1 year 

    • Anonymous

      Neither, HTC Vigor or Samsung Nexus.  

    • Anonymous

      Bionic or droid RAZR

  • Matthew Morrison

    found this reading comments on engadget. 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v35vau9IT4

    • Davros

      LOL, “ipad2 is gonna be more obsorbent”

  • Peter

    Seri: How may i assist you?
    Me: lick my butthole

    4s it changes everything again just like every year

  • Anonymous

    Agree apple seems to be doing what rim did years ago. Apple makes a great product but how long can you rely on the same stale interface and expect people to not want more with the options from other platforms that they have?

  • Mark

    Own an ipod touch and have recently upgraded my droid x for the bionic and have been an android fan since i waited in line all night for my og droid, every carrier i switch to i always make sure they have a powerful android phone on hand. That being said I really don’t like IOS and i use both on a daily basis. Android is so far ahead of IOS. If android ever fails I will no longer own a smartphone it just wont be as fun anymore.

  • Anonymous

    Actually it’s a nice day to be a Android user.  Nothing to worry about from Apple.  The iphone 4S(hit) is a joke.  

    Actually I take that back:Siri…..What’s the best Android phone to buy?  

  • Anonymous

    I felt the same way I did when I saw the Hotmail Android app…

  • rob

    CUPERTINO, CA—During a highly anticipated media event held today at the Apple corporation’s world headquarters, CEO Tim Cook announced the new iPhone 4S is good and people should buy it. “It’s a good phone,” said Cook, walking out onto a stage and gesturing at a picture of the device projected on a large screen behind him. “It’s got e-mail, the Internet, and you can get apps on it. Everybody should get one. It’s good.” After standing in place for another four seconds without speaking, Cook walked off stage, at which point the houselights came up and all in attendance were asked to please file out of the auditorium.

    • rob

      oopss….from “The Onion”

  • Djstar2k2

    well the marketing will be revolutionary!  

  • Apple spent too much time suing Android phone makers instead of creating a better iPhone. I expected something more competitive.

    Funny how pretty much all of these “new ~**rEvOlutIonArY**~ features” are features Android phone have had for a while.

  • I have an unused upgrade sitting, and Apple had a chance to to get my $$ if I liked what they brought to the table enough. Not even close. Same tiny screen, no 4g and nothing ground breaking at all. I can’t imagine why someone would buy that over the GSII or the upcoming Nexus. 

    • Anonymous

      I am in the same boat. Looks like the Nexus will be the phone for me=) Next week will show what a real phone should be and look like.

  • J2000pro

    I’m dissapointed. I have a family member insistant on buying an iphone based on “brand recognition” despite my attempts to turn it around. Got them to hold off for this announcement. Too apple can’t offer anything more than a hardware refresh on a mediocre smart phone.

  • Ok, here’s the real deal… Next year, at the big Vegas Show, steve jobs will announce the iPhone 5 with 4gLTE,
    in a smaller chipset, and lower battery drain than the current 4G chips.  Then it will take him NINE MONTHS to get it to market!  The electronics world will hail him as the God of smartphones, the sea’s will retreat, the air will clear, and all will be right with the apple world… Amen.

    • hkklife

      Steve Jobs ain’t Jon Rubinstein.

  • Apple just proved they know there customers are lemmings that will just buy the same thing over and over and over again my Droid 1 has flash and iphone does not.

  • Apple just proved they know there customers are lemmings that will just buy the same thing over and over and over again my Droid 1 has flash and iphone does not.

  • RedOne

    Same shit different year… Enough said.

  • Anonymous

    I’m a devoted Android man (and am dying for the Prime to come out), but apple demonstrated 2 great innovations: 1) their camera really is superb, and will be even better on the 4S, and 2) their new antenna technology that allows the two antennas to “divide and conquer” for greater call quality or work in tandem for double the download speeds. Now, instead of making multiple devices (this one has wiMax, this one has 4G, etc.), they get to produce ONE phone that still satisfies the speed demands that non-LTE people (almost everyone except Verizon) can enjoy. That’s super lucrative and a great example of making things work on your behalf. Other than that, it was mostly more developed software, which really doesn’t offer much that Android doesn’t already. They do put together a polished package, though. Now…next Tuesday and the Prime announcement, please!!

  • Bluebeaver218

    don’t worry apple will always have their sheep to follow them…right to the islaughtering house apple

  • Mjrule2345

    This just in….an individual used Siri on I-fail 4s and said, “Siri take me to the headquarters of the industry leader of smartphones. The individual found themselves at Mountain View, CA.

    Today’s event should have been called Let’s talk Disappointment.

  • Anonymous

    So I am totally not pro-Apple at all, but that was it?  I would have expected Apple to bring their A game, but instead they went for a solid C+. So they have caught up to the Bionic, but what are they going to do next week when their “Big” announcement gets blown away by Samsung/Google?  Apple is definitely going to be losing the tech race after next week.  They better stop filing lawsuits and actually start developing a phone.  By the time they release the iPhone 5 (or maybe the iPhone 4SH- to finish the spelling in 2 more versions lol) they will need to pull off a quad-core and 2gb RAM phone with a 1080p 3D screen that will make your bed to keep up with the Android devices we will be seeing then.  

  • Anonymous

    ,..awesome.., 
    my best friend’s mom makes $77 an hour on the computer. She has been out of job for 9 months but last month her check was $7487 just working on the computer for a few hours. Read about it here CashSharp.com

  • LinuxLover

    Have you ever actually scrolled around on an iPad and an Android pad side by side? An iPhone and an Android phone? There is such a lack of polish in the user experience with Google that it just turns many off. Everything from the scrolling animations to the screen transitions is done with class and smooth. It doesn’t feel jerky. The Android platform has become somewhat like the PC market, where the hardware quality has become somewhat a disappointment. Sure the specs sound good, but the actually implementation falls short.Hey, I really want the Android platform to do well. As a gadget lover, I like them all. I’m just calling it as I see it, as things are now. Android feels crude in its current state. Yeah, it does have some great features, but the interaction between it and the user seems crude. That, and the hardware just seems to be a constant letdown.

    • Sheabyrd1

      If you want the polish then go with the manufacturer that has the Bloat ware skin over android you like the most. You have to remember that android is an open source and people are going to change and adapt it to their liking. That said if you were the android dev team why would you spend endless time making it look pretty when you know some one is going to change it? Spend you time adding features and functionality is the whole idea. 

    • Sheabyrd1

      If you want the polish then go with the manufacturer that has the Bloat ware skin over android you like the most. You have to remember that android is an open source and people are going to change and adapt it to their liking. That said if you were the android dev team why would you spend endless time making it look pretty when you know some one is going to change it? Spend you time adding features and functionality is the whole idea. 

      • LinuxLover

        Who said pretty? I’m talking feel… Run your fingers over the screen and let it jump from screen to screen. The iPad/iPhone feels fluid. The Android gadgets all fell jerky.

  • Steve D from LI, NY

    just thought it was funny.,.. A5 professor, designed by APPLE… MADE by (ahem) Samsung (ahem). Nexus Prime, here we go! m/

  • This is where fragmentation is an advantage, if one company makes a lame update to a phone you have options to go to another company.

  • Anonymous

    Is it just me or is the iphone and every version of iOS stale and boring? I mean it’s basically been the same since introduced in 2007 only with a new feature or app here and there.

  • Anonymous

    Samsung Prime with Ice Cream Sandwich is going to stab the iphone 4s in the neck with a knife!

  • I call this milk system million system – Apple will no doubtingly sell millions of these, equating to millions in revenue from the millions of superficial-es till the official iPhone 5 which once again they will rape the superficial-es once again, thus its a simple game of double dipping equating to multi-millions. 

  • Crackmonkeys4hire

    I put off buying the Bionic after I heard about the Nexus Prime. I’m hoping it will be here soon. I think I’m going to enjoy a dual core processor on Verizon’s 4G LTE.

  • Anonymous

    I think this is why Steve Jobs left at the time he did, he knew that his device could only be, “magical,” for so long.

  • My reaction? The competition for the Samsung Prime (or whatever it ends up being called) just disappeared.

    I wish there had been an iPhone 5, and that it had included some features to really push Android developers.

  • Boiiiiii

    Like OMG!  I totally couldn’t believe it when I heard, like new iPhone!  Pre-ordering now, no time to research.  /sarcasm

    No matter what people say, Apple products are a status symbol.  I’d say half the people that aren’t upgrading from 4 to 4S won’t do so because it looks identical to the old version.  Plus, most say most apps won’t take advantage of dual core these days, so what is the real advantage of “upgrading”?  Having a phone with a two year contract that doesn’t have 4G, having a 3.5″ screen for 2 years….?

    I couldn’t help but to laugh when I saw the news today, it’s almost like Apple had so much publicity and anticipation that anything other than a perfect new iPhone 5 redesign would be a letdown.  Kinda shot themselves in the foot and made themselves look bad don’t you think?  I’m sure it’s a solid phone, but not having an option for; 4G, bigger screen than 3.5″, or anything game changing (as expected) is a huge letdown to everyone expecting the 5.

    They could have at least put the iPhone 5 rumors to bed to not let for such a massive letdown.  

    Nexus = best phone of 2011 ~ !!!  =D

  • This undeniable fact is the major factor which seperates the two platforms. Apple is easy and quick, and made for my grandmother or really stupid people – and it simply cannot do as much at once as a well equipped android phone can. Android is now reaching its best years – devices are finally coming with enough memory and high spec hardware to not only be snappy, but to also be ultra productive – multiple apps can be run in the background, applications blocked by your carrier can be installed at will via sideloading(and without the need for jailbreaking/hacking/rooting), and there is always a beastly specced out phone coming in just a few months from your favorite carrier – unlike apple where there is typically once device per year.  
     
    So if you are very old, metally handicapped, special, dumb, or you’re just a dbag then go ahead…

    ANDROID FTW

    sent from my Motorola Targa 4G

  • cdizl

    I think you guys fail to realize what exactly is going on here. Even though apple is pulling a lot of stuff that has come standard on android for quite some time they are packaging it with a very stable phone that does not change every 30 seconds like most android devices. I understand that android rolls out new phones and your getting the latest and greatest, but at what cost? How many of you actually stick with an android phone for the length of your 2 year (not counting the OG, that thing is above standards) ? As an average consumer, who wants a smartphone with all the bells and whistle and none of the hassle than an iPh*ne is a smart move. You have to understand that apple is now adding all the great things about android to one of the best selling phones, this will only increase sales. And I don’t say this as an iPh*ne fan boy. I had an OG and have had my DX for sometime now. 

    • Papoose34328

      google should start manufacturing their own high quality phones to compete.

      • Doomed2010

        Googorola

    • Anonymous

      but you see that’s the beauty of android.  Today is a perfect example.  If you are dissapointed with todays iPhone, oh well you are SOL until next year.  Android if you don’t like your models upgrade , oh well, what is Moto, htc, or Sammy offering?    The latest and greatest will always be around and not a year away.

      • cdizl

        You do make a valid point, but as an Android consumer it does start to get a little frustrating when a “newer, better” phone is rolling out every couple months yet we’re stuck on 2 year contracts. All I am saying is that Android as a whole is competing with a single company, sooner or later there will need to be a stand out droid device on its own that competes with the iPh*ne in terms of sales and holding power, not an entire “genre” of phones

  • Juscozimme

    Well, Well, Well something told me this event was going to be crap.  How does Apple compete with Android.  They don’t can’t and every time we hear Apple talk just smile.  Its’ comical, but I still love my Ipod.  Never had a problem with it.  They lowered their price, but watch their ratings drop.

  • So it’s a S variant not a 5.  The first thing that makes me think of is they wanted to push a few new apps and milk their fan-base for more money.  I’ll admit I haven’t looked real hard at the 4S but I haven’t heard anything about specs.  The camera and things get touted but what is under the hood that really matters.  Do i*hone users really not care about the specs of the device and what it’s capable of?  The one thing Apple does is planned obsolescence. With different models of Android phones very few feel like a replacement to an existing device.  They are getting better but with this and the DROID Brand has tried but every phone feels so independent that nothing is a true sequel and there are too many changes from each version that a lot of them should not be called 2 or 3.  Maybe its all the crappy manufacturer skins that are causing it I am not sure. /rant

    • Not just iPhone users, All phone buyers. I would say 10% of all smartphone users care about detailed specs, cpu clock speeds, ram, etc. Most just want something to work out of the box without blue tinted pictures, 3g drop, random reboots, etc.

  • Trever Beall

    Waste of money!! Wassup Nexus Prime

  • Donnavon Hallgren

    Can someone please make a Google device that won’t break when I get pissed and squeeze the damn thing.

  • I think the only thing I find more shocking than the lack of innovation, substance, Steve Jobs etc etc is the fact that Apple fanboys never see it coming.. .I mean seriously, come on, how do you guys keep falling for it? It reminds me of Charlie Brown when Lucy ALWAYS pulls the football away when Charlie tries to kick it. You always act shocked like it was the first time. I understand that some people are simply not tech savy or want a phone that just works with zero thought, but the amount of Apple fanboys that I would otherwise consider to be intelligent and tech fluent that choose to keep investing in a company and product that passed its prime years ago and shows no sign of this mythical “innovation” in the future or recent history, come on.. you’re too smart (smug) to be so stupid…

  • I was pretty underwhelmed.  PC Free?  Notifications?  Voice commands?  nothing new here.  faux-G data?  Seriously?  That’s the best they could come up with?  Apple, I am disappoint.  I see nothing here to threaten Android’s continued rising dominance of the smartphone market any time soon.

  • Omg.  I am going to have ice cream spill out of my mouth and
    fall all over my chest.  I am going to rub that ice cream into my beard, until
    its sticky sweet goodness is all ready for my consumption.  I can not wait
    to eat me some ice cream.  My face is going to be coated in it.  It
    will trickle around my neck like a pearl necklace.

  • Mark Lewis

    It’s interesting to me that Apple is able to put all of this nice hardware into the device (A5, Retina, 8MP camera, GSM+CDMA radio) and still keep the price at $200 with contract.  I guess they’re using their App Store profits to help offset what is likely a greater hardware cost than what goes into a similarly-priced Android phone.

    I wonder if we’ll start seeing similar feedback between Google and Motorola to get us better devices.

  • Tsotkiewicz

    I’m just suprised apple hasn’t sued themselves for a patent infringement. This iPhone looks very familiar…

    • Wunderwaffe

      +10,000,000,000,000,000

  • You know what? Despite the lack of new innovation in the 4S there will still be a line of Apple lovers at the door on release day lol.

  • Anonymous

    I used an OG Droid and ended up getting an iPhone 4 after realizing that the Samsung Galaxy S II was taking too long to come out for Verizon (still waiting). Android and iOS do have their pros and cons and the only pro with iOS is that so many big companies have focused on developing for them (Garmin and TomTom are two apps I consider must haves).

    Things I have hated about the iPhone 4 is that the GPS is terrible. If I don’t have it faced out the windshield, I don’t get reception. Not announcing an improved GPS in the 4S is a dealbreaker.

    Not announcing true multitasking is a deal-breaker

    Not having Flash is getting old

    Screen still too small. I want a larger screen for my next phone

    Not having widgets like in Android really sucks, especially when I’m travelling.

    I like the way Android uses text in a browser. Android automatically formats the format of what you’re reading on your screen (when you want to view a webpage as like a full web browser and not the mobile version of a web page). If a web page has wide formatting, I can just zoom in and the page is still readable because of word wrapping on Androi. On an iPhone (including other browsers such as Dolphin browser for iPhone, Atomic Web, and Mercury), I would have to scroll right and left for every line when zoomed in (the other option is reading very small text).

    These have been all major issues for me and I wanted to be patient because I would figure Apple would update their OS and at least resolve some of these issues since their OS feels really outdated. Instead, I’ll be able to send a real card to someone from my phone… yay?

  • I couldn’t agree with you more. Even tough my family comprises of people who love iPhones. I was so disappointed to see what apple presented today. They were just not ready to reveal the iPhone 5 cuz i’m sure they are going back to the drawing boards after seeing such amazing arndroid phones with crazy powerful specs…..so basically Apple is just not the same innovator that they were 3 years ago other manufactures have caught up and exceeded Apple at this point, at least IMO. On the other hand you are right about the camera, i have hated my camera on every one of my android phone and envy my friends iPhone 4 camera. I have such high hope for my future phone either the Nexus Prime or HTC Vigor…..

  • does the S stand for stupid? because thats the first word that comes to mind.

  • AlexKCMO

    I’m the biggest Apple hater of all my friends.

    With that said, I’m impressed by the claims of what Siri can do.  Time for Google to beef up Android’s voice recognition.

    • SjB

      lovely thing is, they can just do it in an update. we don’t have to wait a yr for a new phone to come out lol

  • Anonymous

    Bummed *pple fanboys can only blame *pple for today’s underwhelming announcement. *pple have rested on their laurels for far too long and when they were really expected to deliver, they dropped the ball more than anyone in recent memory (far Far worse than the anticlimactic launch of the Bionic). It’s no mystery at all why they choose to fight their battles in court versus the open market. Their foolishness in biting the hand that fed them (Samsung) had to contribute to some of the delays in manufacturing that pushed their newest iteration back (they can blame immature LTE tech all they want as reason to push back it’s launch, I’m not buying it). I’m sure they’ll bounce back, but not before losing more share to ANDROID (and windows mobile).

  • I was thinking that I was incredibly happy to have adopted Android as well.  I can’t believe how big of a let down that was.  I’m pretty sure that one of my former colleagues is probably really upset right now, but he’ll probably get it anyway because he’s the biggest Apple fanboy I know.

  • Mark Siebels

    Its official, the innovator becomes the imitator…
     

  • The Goat

    I still can’t believe they’re sticking with a 3.5″ screen.  My lunky man hands disapprove.  There are some nice new features on the 4S, Siri is very cool, and I expect that the whole package will make for quite a compelling phone.  But in general, it feels like they’re falling behind in terms of hardware innovation, and they shouldn’t be with the enormous financial and intellectual resources at their disposal.

  • This is the problem with the iOS ecosystem: The only hardware that runs it is that coming out of Apple. So, you end up with a stale hardware market. It’s one size fits all. Android now has hundreds of hardware configurations to satisfy everyone. This is why iOS devices will likely be stale and stagnant for a while.

    • Yeah, and that is why Android is so buggy. No control over the devices.

      • IPhone suffers from the same “buggyness”…its not perfect but no phone is

  • thank God I never bought an iPhone. Talk about “incremental” upgrades in order to get you to buy new expensive hardware. Wanna bet the iPhone 5 will have no software upgrades and just be new hardware with “4G” on VZW and Sprint.

  • Pdupre

    Designed to allow more rapid development. That’s exactly what people said about PCs versus Macs.  The problem is, that people have come to realize that lots of apps that don’t work together or integrate (at all) isn’t an optimum way to live with technology.  Rapid development and innovation happened and continues to happen with the iPhone platform.  It may happen slower, but it won’t be the windows wild west either. I think that we have already learned that speeds and feed and lowest price point isn’t what the average user cares about.  What they do care about, is that when an update comes out (think recent droid update) that the interface to your phone doesn’t change to such a degree that a user needs to completely relearn the phone. 

    • I agree. I like that all your devices-if your an apple owner-sync together. For music players, there is no other option. They just work better.

  • Seabeetodd

    how are they claiming download speeds of 14.4 megabits per second and upload speeds of 5.8 megabits a second by just using two antennas? Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20115460-37/apple-unveils-iphone-4s/#ixzz1ZqhcWTXh

  • Gregd9288

    I am just so happy to be a happy Android owner and have been the day the original Droid came out on Verizon. I woke up early that morning and was the first on line to get it at my local Verizon store in NYC.  Now 2 years down the line and still a devoted Verizon and Android customer I have been pretty disappointed.  I had the original droid then had to switch to the droid 2 global (reluctantly) because my phone had broken, bought the droid charge a good phone, but no where near up to my standards at that time.  Now with the Nexus Prime just on the horizon and if it does line up with all the reports it should be coming to Verizon I agree this is the best time to be an Android customer.  To be honest I hate skinned Android phones by the manufacturers For a second if the iPhone 5 came out with the redesign they had been talking about with a larger screen it potentially could of swayed me.  But the Nexus Prime blows it out of the water and Android will continually out innovate Apple.  They are just implementing many of the features of the features Android has had for a long time and making them sound new and cool.  However Android is the way to go and this just re-affirms my commitment to the Android platform for the long run.  I am sitting on pins and needles waiting for the Nexus Prime to come out!

  • Anonymous

    I pretty much agree with the article. It feels like they’re playing catch up now. Nothing innovative about this model. I just wonder what all the people saying they were going to wait and buy the i*hone 5 in October are going to do now?

    • You can be cutting edge but most of the time that comes with bugs and flaws-read Bionic or most Moto devices. So Be a bit behind and work out the kinks and have a better performing product.

      • Anonymous

        Isn’t that most of Apple’s argument? “We did it first and everyone is copying us, so we are better.” And there are other non-Moto dual core phones out there that work just as well, if not better, and have been out longer.

  • Tabe

    “Who doesn’t want better built products with higher quality materials?” – Manufacturers want to build better products with lower quality materials that they try to pass off as higher quality! =P

  • CenterOfTown

    It’s not all bad.  For the people who lack the technological wherewithal to operate the phone pictured above the iPhone 4S will be perfect for them.

  • Just waiting for the Nexus Prime (Galaxy) to be announced to show what a high end smartphone should be at this day and age.

    • Right, always waiting for something. Waited for the Bionic, it is hardly mentioned now.

  • P5stover

    id rather have that rotary phone at the top of the page than any  iproduct.

  • Anonymous

    Of course I don’t doubt for a moment that Steve had significant medical reasons that necessitated him leaving the company soon, and I continue to have the deepest sympathies for him, but I have to wonder if his knowledge of this phone’s imminent launch (or, rather, knowledge that Apple couldn’t find a way to out-innovate Android anymore, even by his own view of innovation) didn’t play into the precise timing. 

    Leave while you’re still on top…?

    • Anonymous

      I think its pretty much a given that with each iphone release each year the pattern is as follows

      iPhone
      iPhone 3G (iPhone 1 with 3G Data)
      iPhone 3GS (slightly improved hardware internally)
      iPhone 4 (completely revamped design of hardware but same stale OS)
      iPhone 4S (same design dull everything all around with new features)
      iPhone 5 (new design, LTE? same dull OS)from the looks of it, there milking the apple buyers based on a few added features or upgraded OS with each release.Us on Android get more than that (if its within software limits, not hardware) atleast with Android we can choose what handset we want and each person has a chance to have a unique design instead of a single one that is only good in a world where people think unique is stupid or dull.

  • stevil

    So it’s a dual-core phone because that’s the only thing that can power their voice recognition. So it’s a camera phone that should be as good as a Canon S90, minus 1/3 the resolution and a whole mess of camera controls. And a bunch of other stuff that’s been copied and enhanced from other platforms, keynoted earlier.

    Took 55 minutes of presentation to get to it, too…

    On a scale of 1 to 10, I give it… Meh.

  • Guest

    IPhone 4s? Major FAIL!

  • Anonymous

    Kellex, your picture explains everything.  Their phones are stale and outdated.  Their quality, has always been good, but they have lost their innovation, it’s dead.  You cannot release a new phone with a 3.5” screen when the norm is now 4.3+. 

    • Anonymous

      not to mention a stale looking OS that needs to be updated to todays standards, there pretty much being lazy by not revamping the OS UI and just adding and stealing features from other apps and OS’s

  • iPhone 4S(uckers)

    • I bet you were knee slapping when you came up with that gem.

      • EC8CH

        To quote a fool:
        “truth hurts doesn’t it”

  • Anonymous

    Looks like even Endgadget is disappointed with the news of this lame iFail…and they usually have a b0n3r for iFails. The new macbook is cool. The iFail, iPad and Pods are all garbage.

  • Anonymous

    Well i hope the ipad 3 gets flash..if not they lose the tablet war going in 2012.Asus already has a Tegra 3 tablet dropping this month!!!!

  • I owned the iPhone 2g, 3g, and 4.  Last fall I switched to Android (Nexus One <3).  I have never looked back… just wish they'd port Instagram already.

  • Nexsus-next

    IPhone, iphone 3g, iphone 3gs, iphone 4, and now iphone 4s. The iphone, 3g, and 3gs are the same phone with minor updates/upgraded. Same is going for the 4s. Same phone as the 4 but with minor upgrades/updates. By doing this, they make a “new” phone a year, and make everyone happy. Also by doing this they spend less time upgrading an old phone which gives them more time to perfect the new phone aka iphone 5. Or whatever they are going to call it. Needless to say, you’re right, they created the smart phone epidemic but all they do now is take what someone else makes and prefects it. I still hate apple and all the iphoners who let’s everyone know they own an iphone through voicemail message. “Hi, this is joe blow on my iphone, leave a message.” Stupid.

  • Anonymous

    Siri, which android phone should I get; Prime or Vigor or Galaxy S II? 

    • EC8CH

      Siri:  Prime… Duh!

  • Anonymous

    What was shown today regarding voice is actually different to what Android has now (and what iPhone had before). iPhone did already have voice actions similar to what we have (such as “call Mom”) but now, for the iPhone 4S only, there is Siri, which is a natural language interpreter that extends the common Voice Actions functionality to allow things such as “What is the weather today?”, “Wake me up at 7am tomorrow”, and “Who are you?”.

    I feel that there should be at least some recognition of that difference.

  • chad917

    You know my cousin had the nerve to tell me he was leaving Android for an stupid iPhone?
    Yet all the talk was about the 4s….I told him
    When you leave don’t come back ever!

  • Malciu

    I haven’t laughed this hard in a while…they’ve got a great display for such a small phone, but…i mean…this is like old tech. All those memes and the steve jobs advice dog images (if you haven’t seen them you will soon enough) are pretty spot on, even for satirical purposes. I feel Apple has lost touch with being a leading mobile platform. Android, even Mango/7.5 is pushing new grounds everyday. 
    Also, futurama references abound!

  • Chris

    I am impressed with Siri because of its natural language support, the camera, and the overall hardware and software polish (as usual with Apple).

    Everything else is pretty underwhelming, though. An evolutionary advancement of the iPhone 4 hardware, and an awful lot of iOS 5 features that seem straight out of Android.  The lack of LTE is the real deal killer, though.  It would have gotten some consideration against the Nexus Prime but for that.

  • WalkingDead

    my reaction was what a waste, can I have my time back that I just spent watching the live blog to see what they were going to announce. I kept saying is this it, surely there will be a surprise, maybe for one last hooray Steve’s going to come up through the center of the stage like Gene Simmons at a KISS concert and say “oh yeah and one last thing” but alas nothing. It was one big joke that apple plays on there consumers year after year and I truly feel bad for the apple faithful and we welcome you to Android. It also made me realize how much I dig android and how I don’t miss my old iphone. If I’m not mistaken the day before iOS 5 launches is the day we get to see Optimus bring the ice cream and I can’t wait.

  • “So I sold my iPhone 4 to get an iPhone 4?”

  • hatethanet

    Yawn! Weak announcement. Outdated styling with a mild spec bump. See how dumb those guys are without Jobs there.

  • Buckgrad

    Job’s resignation was well timed… Looking at everything the iPhone 4S can now do makes me very content with my year old Droid X. 😉

  • Trusttheman85

    I think the entire tech world feels the same… i am a huge android fan, but i am an admirer of any valid competition. Helping to put a fire under Android ass and make it even better… Today’s i*hone news even surprised me in how underwhelming it was. I guess to the uninitiated this is probably amazing news… but anyone in the know (or with a friend who has an android phone), these features are not only old, but industry standard (in some industries i guess), Not even 4G??? come on… im sure tons of people are still gonna buy it and its gonna be a big hit like always and trade in there old 4’s for the 4.5… but damn Apple… smh… this phones specs are just under the bionic… so in a few weeks to a month…. your phones gonna be so far behind its not even fair any more

    Competition, maybe…. a match, not at all

  • Anonymous

    Disappointed or not, there are those that will still drink the Kool-Aid.

  • Anonymous

    that whole thing was a fail… its remarkable how apple hypes up things that are standard in android and other services like greet cards… really, they hyped up greeting cards? when steve went away apple lost it’s swagger… it was so boring…apple fail.

  • HAHAHAHAHAHA! WOW! I dont know if I want to call up my friends and family who are iOS fans and gloat that “Android WINS!” or if I call up and offer my condolences. All I know is that I’m so happy with their failure that I’m about to start dancing.

  • Anonymous

    Where is Jeff Bernard the ALL TIME Apple Fan Boy that loves to Troll on DL???  Ahhh Yes, crying with a box of kleenex 😛 

    We are waiting for the Infamous Fan boy to to spin this latest developments from Apple HQ’s 🙂

    • EC8CH

      He’s already standing in line to pay the *pple Tax.

  • Anonymous

    BREAKING NEWS: Kellex sticks with Android!

    This place is a joke sometimes and goes off the fanboy deep end. 

    • Daniel

      It is called droid-life kid

      • Anonymous

        So why am I reading about the iPhone on a weekly basis? 

  • No 4g sucks…being on a contract for 2 yrs no 4g is rough

  • It’ll be interesting to see if they can make voice command technology actually take off. I never use speech-to-text on my droid, nor do I use the voice commands on my kinect. Why not, cuz it’s annoying when you’re not by yourself, and usually slower than just using a controller or keyboard. Voice commands and s2t always seems like awesome Star Trek holy grail technology, but in actual practice it’s not as convenient or useful.

  • stombie18

    I love how at every one of these things apple spends like 30 mins stroking its ego and throwing up graphs and upward sloping lines.  It reminds me of a company that knows it hasnt done much with its products but man did we work on this presentation! Its funny how everyone was probably waiting at the end for Tim to say, oh and by the way….we have an iPhone 5 too…” but alas, nothing more.  I’m looking forward to all the Android phones that will crush this lazy update.  They touted dual core like they were the first to market. Hello, you’re about a year behind…

  • Anonymous

    I think people are claiming a premature victory.  With Apple’s marketing prowess they’ll have people in lines for the 4S, its still on android to produce a gotta-have-it feature to finally put the iPhone in its review mirror.   I’m hoping the coming ICS phones can deliver something no amount of iMarketing can overcome.  Whether it is graphics and 720p combo to produce game changing visuals or NFC related apps or whatever.

  • I am relieved. I was expecting something that would make me rethink my decision to wait out the next Nexus. I’m expecting the Nexus to trump or match most of today’s announcements. That said, I hope Goog doesn’t disappoint us!

  • Meh. Yawn. Blah. Wake me when something exciting happens.

    • EC8CH

      yeah, I think I’ll nap till the details of the Galaxy Nexus are released too 🙂

  • Anonymous

    All I could do is say….what time is it?  ITS! PRIME! TIME!

  • Anonymous

    Siri: Why does the iPhone suck? Is it because its a dated device with a dated OS that needs a revamp?

  • I think the one thing that the iPhone 4S really wins at is the price point. As a Verizon customer, the number of top-tier phones at that price point are pretty slim. The Pantec Breakout is the only 4G model going for $199. I know the 4S isn’t a 4G phone… but 98% of the population doesn’t realize that. Most think their current phone is 4G. And we all know that perception win in this industry (HP/WebOS).

    • Anonymous

      it’s a 3g phone…all verizon 3G phones are 199 or less… now the iphone 4 at 49.99 will be a big hit but other than that… apple will be playing catch up… most of verizon’s 4G lineup next year will Android with apple waiting until june or october to announce their 4G iphone…if that since apple likes to wait for tech to mature a 4G iphone could be another 2 yrs away maybe.   today really struck me as apple losing it’s touch…for all the big talk and sales numbers, apple is losing it’s cool. it’s amazing to witness.

    • Daniel

      I think the Revolution is $200.., I also thought the Pantech was $100… Maybe not

  • Anonymous

    I think Apple dropped the ball….bigtime.   No LTE…small screen…software changes that play catch up with Google.   If left to compete fairly….Samsung will give Apple a run for their money.  I have to wonder if Apple will remain competitive with Android and Microsoft in the future. 

  • Gybier

    I was definitely expecting more. Dual-core and better GPU were given… I wanted Apple to have something pretty awesome so that Android products could learn from it or compete…

    • JCS

      Competition means lawsuits at this point…

  • Anonymous

    I’m not an iPhone fanboy, but I like to own devices from all the major OS’s.  All I can say is, I’m confused.  Why all the disappointment in the 4S?  It has everything but a different shell that the iPhone 5 might have had.  It will sell well, and so will androids, and the world will move on.

    NOW GIVE ME MY PRIME! :p

  • Jer85008

    Other than the camera, I can’t see any good reason to upgrade if I were an iPhone user (I am a bit jealous of the camera though, hating the crap photos/video from my DX for over a year now) . I’m actually quite shocked there is no iPhone 5, why the delay for this? I suspect it’s to launch an all-new 4G iPhone next year. I suppose all the iPhone 4 users who sold their phones to purchase this are wondering if it was worth it.

  • Anonymous

    This will be one of the most commented on articles in the history of this website.  Android users/fans are more interested in bashing Apple/iOS than anything android related.

    • Anonymous

      I’m glad in not the only one who realized this….

  • wcurr

    I have APPL stock, and what worries me the most is this reminds me of RIM 5 years ago……

    • DroidzFX

      Nice to invest in a company that does not pay dividends

      • babadush

        So true

      • wcurr

        Its called diversifying…try it out….

  • Madcow06

    My take on this is that it’s basically the same as the droid X to X2 update except for without the camera upgrade,only almost a year later, oh and without the screen downgrade depending on who you talk to.

  • eq

    The latest iPhone is an evolutionary update for Apple while the next Android will be more revolutionary with a higher density display, NFC, and ICS.  Certainly the iPhone has more polish that Android phones can only dream but the variety of choice is incredible plus the latest Android phones are all 4G.

  • J Dub

    So basically Apple announced today that they are about 6 months behind the rest of the worlds phones? Both in hardware and software. Other phones have had the same features and hardware specs for longer. With the new Nexus hopefully being revealed next week, the 4S is going to look even older. HD resolution screens and new chipsets instead of stuff from last year.

  • Obiwancanola

    I thought apple was just playing a rerun from season 2

  • I would rather have a phone that is constructed of mostly metal  than one mostly made of glass. I am a bit of a klutz. I have dropped my OG droid so many times, it really shouldn’t work, but it does.  *kisses OG droid*.  Of course, I’ve only had a Motorola Droid, I haven’t really tinkered with others long enough to speak for other brands.  

    I wonder if this model can function properly without a bumper around it.

  • Anonymous

    Major Fail: At 1:23PM today, iOS is now the number one mobile operating system, 43 percent compared to Android’s 33 percent as of the July ComScore number Apple is quoting. This makes me laugh! What Farce!

    • truth hurts doesn’t it

      • Anonymous

        If by truth you are referring to the fact that EVERY independent observer states that Android is far past the next guy, than YES, the real truth does hurt. But that is a given, there are more phones out there with Android, than *phones with iOS.

    • Anonymous

      yeah they skewed that info just like they did last time when they talked dirty about Android and honeycomb

  • Anonymous

    Rumor has it that if you take a picture of a Samsung Galaxy S II with an iPhone 4GS that it automatically files a lawsuit.

    • Anonymous

      hahahaha…

  • BA_Carroll

    Wait I thought my i*hone was 4G already!
    I guess if I was Steve Jobs I would have left too before this was announced. He is not as dumb as you all think.

  • Anonymous

    And people complained about having to wait for 8 months for a leading edge phone like the Droid Bionic (true, it may be eclipsed quickly, but for the moment it is the leading edge)… Just imagine how you would feel to have to have waited almost 16 months, for a trailing edge device like this!

  • Matthew Morrison

    (Shaking My Head) Apple Apple Apple, scrambling for market share by lowering the prices of older iphones and expanding to other carriers? Trying to bring something to the table by trying to make iOS5 more android-like? (notifications, google lattitude/find my friends, voice actions) …… Thats a b**** move apple

  • OG Droid

    “Look at iOS 5 and all of the new features that look straight out of the pages of Android 2.1:  notifications, voice actions, Google Latitude Find My Friends, etc.” Apple…Getting androids sloppy seconds for years

    • Android has Hyundai versions of those features, Apple has BMW.

      • Anonymous

        Hyundai oil change:  $34.99
        BMW oil change : $129.99
        Apple falling to the bottom of the market share:  Priceless!

        • Hyundai=1 week after ownership=squeaks, rattles, smokes, stinks.

      • Really? Shouldn’t you be on engadget among your fanboy peers?

  • 4ever

    iFone A(4)SS

  • Nate Surber

    Meh…

  • JJ

    HAHAHAH i love this. im so happy to be on the android team. All week ive been hearing people talk and talk and talk alllll about the iphone 5. when the day comes, its just another iphone 4. L M F A OOOOOO!!!

  • Anonymous

    Lamest update imaginable. Android will continue on its current trajectory – up, up and away!

  • Anonymous

    You don’t see them talking down Android there because they come to these forums and talk down Android.

  • Anonymous

    I have a fan boy next to me and he was so excited about the voice recognition…i pulled out my OG droid and said “Dial…” and my phone called him.  I made sure to mention my phone was 2+ years old and even my phone before the OG could do it.

  • My reaction?   iYawn

    Talk to me when you have true 4G LTE speed, removable batteries, and stop using a tiny display…

  • Cwzrd23

    iPhone 4s is not about the hardware their trying to catch up or copy’s google software like notifications ota updates wireless sync backup and voice recognition software dual core 4G…. android is years ahead of apple their just trying to catch up 😉

  • Davros

    Reminded me of 2 years ago when we were all impatiently awaiting Froyo 🙂 While there have been way too many lawsuits lately I hope Google sues to block these “revolutionary” products. If aphole can stop sales in Germany with little to no evidence then Google should easily be able to shut them down. Why do I think they should sue, Because aphole has thrown so much money at the judges, ER, UH, i mean lawsuits that they have effectively assaulted Android. While Android shouldn’t stoop to apholes level they must defend themselves.

  • Franzie3

    The only thing the iPhone seems to be good for is going to be the camera and the hardware and features.  And Moto/HTC/Sammy all know it and i bet they work towards a better one to have for CES, watch…

    A5 chip, fancy name for dual core processor (already existed in android)
    8MP camera – most high end phones have this, just not as advanced
    Retina display – its nice, but still on a 3.7 inch screen (i think SAMOLED is better) plus there is 720P screen coming within a month (Vigor and Prime)
    Siri – i’ll admit i think its a good idea and a cool feature, but how annoying is this going to be with people using it…and how many ditzy valley girls will know how to use it….

    If anything i see this as an opportunity for the big guns (moto/htc/samsung) to go ahead and just blow away the competition with farther advanced devices.

    • The 4S’s camera can’t be summarized by saying it’s just an 8mp camera. It has 5 element lens, backlit cmos sensor, 1.1seconds to first picture. It should kill all of Moto’s cameras by leaps and bounds.

      • They also compared it to a Nokia point and shoot a lot of hot air coming from that conference

        • What are the bionics camera specs? I can’t remember. Oh, blue tint feature, yeah.

  • Anonymous

    The screen looks better, but its still too small in my opinion. Also, battery life is in part due to the smaller screen and lack of 4G. Can’t argue with Apple’s level of quality and what iCould brings, but I will argue against Apple’s customer service. Apple’s customer service reps were told to tell customers there was nothing wrong with their iPhone 4 when the antenna issue came about and there have been similar instances where the reps have been told to relay certain messages in order to maintain Apple’s spotless image. That’s not good customer service, that’s lying. I can’t stand behind a company that lies to my face about an issue they know about but they just don’t want to admit.

  • 4s= a joke

    • Right and Bionic is perfect… Hahaha.

      • I think the galaxy s2 takes that claim

  • Anonymous

    Android all day baby!

  • Pete

    Slick presentation but overall meh, coming from an OG Droid owner.  Voice actions and locations are neat tech demos but in practice seem to be just that.  Sure, I *can* talk to my phone or search Google by speaking or whatever, but it’s just not practical.  If I’m with others it would be annoying, and if I’m by myself then why bother?  Either the Apple implementation makes it more seamless than what I gathered or else I really only see an application while driving.  And no one really seems to make it geared for while on the road.  

    Location stuff?  Facebook, Latitude, etc., all seem to miss it.  Foursquare wins because they make it a game.  I’ve never really seen much activity on Latitude, and the only reason I think people check in on FB is because either the mobile app does it for you or they want the “hey, look at me!  I’m at this place!” moment.  I still prefer Foursquare because it makes it a competition of sorts and the badges – you earn badges and can get discounts from places.  No one else seems to be capitalizing on that.

    Really the main thing that I envied from the 4S event was the camera stuff.  Maybe it’s my OG Droid, maybe it’s Froyo, I don’t know, but the camera sucks.  Quality is Ok, but the experience is awful.  First I have to hold the camera button down to start, or find the app.  Then it’s 3 seconds maybe until it’s actually ready to shoot.  Take a picture, and there’s a 2 second delay or so at least while it processes.  Apple’s got you there – if the optics are good and it’s fast then that’s pretty sweet.  Like I said, maybe it’s my old phone.  Do the new devices perform better, is it the hardware or is it the software?  It *would* be nice to have a manufacturer actually make a kick-ass camera on the phone and really polish it up.  Maybe the Nexus prime?  Do any sites actually do reviews and comparisons on the cameras like the Apple presentation did? 

    • The og droid camera is 2 year old tech not even HD you cant compare the droid camera to new phones camera. Obv it will be better

  • Russ

     This one has an “S” in the name. It must be a whole lot better than the old iPhone 4. I’m going to wait in line for 3 days to buy one.

    • Nelly547

      They forgot the”hit”

  • Anonymous

    Too little too late. They needed a full refresh (Not just adding an S) to have a chance against the Android onslaught.

  • BTGGTR1

    APPLE, what a joke you are. Today you dropped the ball in a big way. Release the same exact phone with slightly better specs and think it’s a major announcment and that people should stand in lines and buy a new one. What a joke. This only paves the way for Android to trounce them. If anyone wants the best phone coming out this late fall, wait for the Samsung Nexus Prime. THAT will be one worth waiting for and paying $300 for. iphone? More like iFAIL.

  • Anonymous

    One of the more disappointing (and pleasing =D) announcements I’ve heard in a while. NOt excited and not surprised either.

    Just be prepared for Apple to do everything they can to brainwash people into thinking they just came out with something brand new in their commercials…

  • iPhone…IRRELEVANT since I ditched my 3G for a DROIDX.  I’m looking at that new Nexus device!

  • Flip74k

    Now I really feel like phone s can’t compete with android especially with the nexus coming out gonna blow this out the water!!

  • Anonymous

    I’m more excited about the iP*d shuffle announcement! 😛

    Android = Leading (or bleeding) edge
    Apple = Leading hedge

    PS: I love the pic with this story. Couldn’t have picked better! 🙂

  • Rtd4379

    I think Ios5 combines a lot of the better thigns about android and Ios together and makes a good OS (despite being closed but we’re not all wanting to root and mod our phones)

    I think they killed it with the screen. Get on the 4 inch train apple. We’re not elves. 

    I’ll save my judgement for after I use it (I buy most new phones for at least a test run). I think I will really enjoy the experience but that 3.5 inch screen will be a thorn in my side

  • dirt_mcgirt

    I’ve had a Droid 1 for the 2 years, and I have been waiting for the next iPhone to come out. I’m sorry, Android is a great platform, but it doesn’t feel finished. It has been catching up, but it has definitely been quantity over quality for Android. iPhones have the build quality not even the flagship Android devices could hope for. A 3.5” display is small, but it is a way better screen than any Android. So, you guys have fun with your new Androids, I’ll be soaking up iOS and all of its usability. /rant

    • Anonymous

      Good luck with that as I have an Ice Cream sandwich in my hands here in the next month or so that is actually groundbreaking and not a small stepping stone.

    • Poor little lad doesn’t think i phone has problems. One thing when you start seeing all these new better android phones we will allow you to come back on the bandwagon. Droid 1 compared to newer android phones is night and day but have fun

  • Great post Kellex, you said everything I was thinking. I am happy that for once the innovation is some where other than Apple… even in in the eyes of the uninformed consumer.

    Keep up the good work!! …now come on ICS and Nexus and Vigor!

  • Joshua Dudash

    Yeah, this “release” was bull$#!*
    Granted, ios5 is cool and all, but the hardware…? Give me a break.
    This can only be appealing to the few 3gs and earlier owners… 
    as for android enthusiasts.. i count this as a win in our pockets. no wonder why they didnt release anything in wwdc… its a joke

  • Rizzidy

    We all knew Apple was going to decline once Jobs stepped down.  I just don’t think anyone predicted it would be this quickly.

    • Davros

      I think that’s temporary. With jobs gone I think aphole has the potential to make a competitive phone. He made apple what it is but he has also been holding them back. We’ll never be rid of the iphone but we’ll get better phones because of it.

  • Trophynuts

    my first reaction is ….wait what were we talking about again?

  • Darn them for producing such a bad phone. How am I to expect better prices on the Droid Bionic with out competition?

  • victor manso

    haha I love my Mac but apple is copying on mobile platform, because my DROID already have a lot of the features that iphone 4S is now innovating. Like if you think is true

  • Ray

    its all been said down below underwhelmed etc…but this is all good for Android so no complaints here 

  • Yoyoyoyoyoyo

    I have a iPhone 3GS, therefore it will be a great upgrade for me, rather than buying the 4 last year, I saved my money.  I also would of liked to of seen an iPhone 5, but it is what it is, I will settle for the 4S, and if the 5 comes out next year I probably won’t buy it, just wait for the upgrade to come out just like this time.

  • JP

    Underwhelmed by the hardware, although I’m sure the A5 chip is great.  The biggest news was a Sprint iPhone, but they glossed right over that.  It will be interesting to see what this does to customers leaving AT&T and how that affects Sprint’s argument that the AT&T-T-Mobile merger is bad for competition…

  • Anonymous

    I still find it funny the OG Droid has a bigger screen then the i*hone. WTG crApple, a 2year old phone is still bigger then your new p(os)hone. Besides it not being android, it disqualifies itself from my new phone next month based on my requirements (uses Verzion,1gb RAM, Dual-core processor, 8gb on board mem, 4+” screen). Was thinking Bionic, but wanting to see reviews of the Vigor first & the Prime if its contract subsidized

  • OG Droid

    they still suck

  • Sean Khang

    the Iphone 4. . .again. . .at least it was worth the wait. . .not really. . .here’s Google’s chance to out “apple”, Apple. . .not an apple hater, they make great products, but sorry to say, they missed an opportunity here to really get alot of new folks on the Apple band wagon. . .while Android is coming out with a bunch of new power house devices within the next few months that will put the Iphone to shame (Nexus Prime, HTC Vigor, LG Revolution 2, Droid HD. . .etc).  i’m sure they’ll sell a bunch of new Iphones. . .but it could’ve been huge if they would’ve announced Iphone 5 with bigger screen and 4G (which is most likely the reason why 5 isn’t ready yet). . .reminds me of this phone called Droid Bionic. . .good phone. . .woulda been great 6 months ago and Moto and V woulda sold a boat load. . .but unfortunately too little too late. . .

  • Larry Mao

    Wait, they’re serious? Let me laugh even harder.

  • Dr. Buttballs

    My reaction you ask? That’s simple…….

    • Davros

      Thats awesome. Hope you dont mind if I steal that. 🙂

  • I find the entire thing amusing.  Apple in essence just put android on an iphone.. which I think a lot of us would have loved a long time ago.  The polish and the hardware are great.  What it also showed me was that imitation is seemingly only ok when Apple does it.  They pretty much straight up ripped off their main competitor while suing everyone else for ripping them off.

    The lack of development on form factor and hardware is disappointing.  Oh well. /yawn

    • Anonymous

      Preach it!  Tweet it, Retweet this, this man deserves a medal!

  • Anonymous

    Apple totally phoned it in with their new phone.  All that waiting had the fanboys drooling what the next apple phone would be.  Even calling it an Android Killer once and for all.  I’m laughing at those sheep.  If you want a dumbified smartphone, get an apple phone.  If you want a phone that will challenge you to be smarter, get an Android phone.

  • Anonymous

    No.

  • Android is good, but impossible for developers to break into and make money to produce more applications. I’d rather have a polished working device then a slightly updated tech that isn’t offering me much anyways. No one is developing things to run on the shiny new tech until Apple has it to anyways.

    I am holding out for when Android is finally able to be a real pocket PC, Nvidia quad graphics and updated quad core CPU’s etc… The day I can ditch my laptop and plug in my phone that can truly replace my laptop will be a great day. Android is close, but not there yet… But Apple isn’t even going that route so Android might be my only hope in the long run.

    Here is to both Android and Apple pushing the tech we all love into better places.

  • Anonymous

    Yes the new *phone 4S is an upgrade from the previous version. But boy is it ever so January 2011…

  • Merlin

    If you haven’t sold your **Pl stock yet, there is still time

    • SjB

      it’s amazing…every time they’ve announced a new phone, their stock has gone through the roof. it was down 15 points after the announcement today.

  • Well, its disappointing as it’s just a slight upgrade.

    But there are a few things that the Iphone 4, and Iphone 4S still has on every Android device….better screen, better battery life, more and higher quality apps, less bugs, better camera, and now it has OTA updating of the entire device for backups of everything in the Cloud……and you don’t have to wait for Carrier updating either.  Oh yeah, build quality of the Iphone is higher than ANY other device out there.  And last for now, but certainly not least.  Apple’s customer service/tech support is far better than any other manufacturer’s. That being said, I’ll be waiting to see if the next Iphone has a larger screen and LTE.  If it doesn’t have a larger screen, I’ll still get it, if it has LTE. I hope that that Samsung Droid Prime, isn’t made of Fisher Price plastic like Samsung’s recent previous devices.  I hope it’s made more up to the Iphone’s standards or metal or glass…….like Moto’s build quality at minimum.  I also hope that the Droid Prime can give me 7-8 hours of talk time, and a camera at least up to par with the the Iphone 4’s.

    • Yep, crap on it all you want, can’t argue many of those points. If it had LED notification Id be there.

    • They have to have their s/w approved by the carriers before releasing it just like every other phone manufacturer does, they just have better leverage with the carriers and less devices to support.

      I completely agree with the comments about the camera, that’s my biggest complaint with the Bionic but it’s build quality is very good and garners positive reaction from everyone who picks it up, including all my iPhone using friends (I have a lot of them). BUT – the fact the 4S lacks any type of 4G connection is just weak – “what do Bionic users do between pictures?”, we download 10x more data than your device does in the same period of time. 😉

      • Wunderwaffe

        True facts ^^

    • Anonymous

      “more and higher quality apps”. really?

      Quantity is hardly a useful comparison (but I the marketing folks love using it) – both markets are filled w/thousands of useless apps. If you’re launching a new platform, yeah, the number of apps you have is going to make a huge difference in attracting customers, otherwise, not so much (at least to people w/some shopping savvy).

      Higher quality? Define please. The top-selling and popular apps are available on multiple platforms (why would a vendor leave a huge market untouched). For every app you say that’s high quality and only on iPhone, I could find one similarly positioned on the Android side of the fence.

      (And good luck installing those 3rd-party apps that aren’t available through iTunes — oh that’s right, you can’t do that w/out jail-breaking your phone. Pity.)

    • DroidzFX

      Yeah that build quality is great when you cant make a call on it. How does it do from a small drop without gorilla glass? Not very well. Let me make an insurance claim…..whoops fooled again double down on the deductible.

      I don’t need a carrier update if already have all the features you are waiting to get updated to.

      Battery is good but its not that great.

      Tech support? I have a pretty good idea how to use a device when I purchase it. If I cant fix it I have a whole android community.

    • BA_Carroll

      All of that is up to the manufacturer, build quality, customer service, camera, LTE or 3G. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH ANDROID OR GOOGLE sir. So googles innovation is outpacing iOS.

  • Anonymous

    Ya know, I never see any sites that cover Mac or IOS devices talk down about android like you do to them. People will like what they like and you posting your sarcastic posts about them isnt going to make them any type of upset. As a former android owner that made the switch to iOS I can honestly say I like the simplicity.

  • Anonymous

    underwhelming was the word that came to mind.  are they even trying anymore?  i think they’ve realized all they have to do is update their current models once a year and parade them on stage.  it’s kind of sad actually, the lack of innovation.  iPhone 4S?  Really, 4S???

  • tpags

    There is gonna be a lot more people jumping ship to android. I agree with u that there are things Apple does quite well but nothing jumps out at me. Same phone different guts. With all these 4″ and plus screens on phones they keep it the same!? Wow. The Prime is about to take over. “APPLE IS WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!”

  • John

    Voice commands on the iPhone. This is going to be a massive annoyance in public.

    Every time I hear someone asking their iPhone “Siri, what’s the weather today?” or “Siri, are there any Italian restaurants nearby?” I’m going to pull out my Android phone and say “DROID, set home temperature to 78 degrees, and turn on the porch light. Oh, and start the car.”

    • Anonymous

      didn’t i see this posted on facebook by androidpolice a few hours ago?

      • John

        yep. actually, it was on google+ to be exact.

        • Anonymous

          ah i stand corrected.  word.  still funny.  the lack of innovation is astounding.

      • derek

        nope, you saw it on gdgt during their liveblog…

    • Raven

      If you really do have home automation via your Android, I am curious, what system do you use?
      I still have an old keypad tone based system to control my lights and would like to upgrade.
      (I do have the OnStar app to start my car as well, but sadly it is not voice controlled.)

  • Seriously underwelmed.  I was willing to consider upgrading from my X to an iPhone 5… but they didn’t show me anything I have to have… Oh well… Now just waiting for the Nexus Prime 😀

  • Anonymous

    Where is Mr. Bernard??

  • Phillip Purcell

    It would be nice if Android phones/Tablets had better hardware like the iPhone/iPad, but Android definitely beets out iOS.

  • Which makes more sense:
    “Siri, do I need an umbrella today.”
    OR just “weather”.

    Because that’s the difference between iPhone and Android in terms of voice search.

    • TheAndroid1

      The iPhone understands a wide range of commands, that’s why this has the potential to be huge.

      You could just ask what is the weather today and it would work.  This was just a demonstration of the power.

    • Benjamin Landwehr

      I’m all for Android, if you’ve read my other posts.. but, “Siri, do I need an umbrella today?” and getting a straight forward answer is much cooler then asking/saying “weather”.

      However, I can’t see Siri being using much besides people testing it out at home, just like with google voice.  In public, it’d be weird to see and annoying for people over using it.

  • trumpet444

    new features (new to apple, old to the rest of the smartphone world), same screen size, no 4g/LTE, no surprise

  • Probably obvious, but …. android (not Nexus Prime or any other single phone) is the true i*hone killer.  

    That’s the BEST thing about android.  So far, I’ve seen people mention the Prime, the Vigor, the RAZR, DROID HD etc.  Don’t ya’ll feel sorry for those poor i*hone enthusiasts, having to wait MONTHS and MONTHS for an underwhelming announcement like this?

    I mean, c’mon.  We get a new phone, like, weekly, if you expand the scope beyond Verizon.  And all of them are better than the i*Phone 4S, 3G, 4, 5, or any other iteration.  

    Apple simply can’t keep up.  And on days like today, it just becomes that much more obvious.

  • Anonymous

    I remember when this site started, when I got my OG Droid… we were years behind the competition and now we are leading it

    • robotherapy

      Maybe the OG didn’t have all the marketshare the iPhone had, but it was definitely ahead of the competition as far as quality and features IMO.

  • Bigmammoth50

    I feel the same way.  I don’t think App*e is doing enough to keep up.  Their screens are good and the cameras are better but I’ll take Android innovation over App*e any day. Also wasn’t the phone supposed to be a new desing? just wondering.

  • Anonymous

    no wonder apple is suing everyone. they have nothing left in the pipeline. 

    • Anonymous

      The pipeline is an empty cavern now.  

  • Rob Becker

    I have never been as completely underwhelmed with an Apple product launch as this one. 

  • Jikhead

    If the iPhone(s) are so great….and the fact they bragged today, claiming their market share is greater than Android….this would imply that your product is better, more innovative, and sells more….so then what up with all the patent law suits?  Seems to me, now that Jobs is gone, and more likely, that Apple is scared.

    • SjB

      they were using july’s market #s done by some random company. at that point android was activating 500k new devices daily. why do you think they didn’t use more current #s?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe a little more time and money investing in R&D and a little less time and money investing in legal. Just saying.

  • Anonymous

    But but but this changes everything…

    • shdowman

      ….again

  • As much as we all hate iphone, the camera looks very promising. I hope Android makers will take note and Moto especially, quite putting in the same old crap camera setup. Looks like quickest to first picture and f/2.4.

    • Android seriously needs better cameras and screens. It’s already got better (and certainly more versatile) software, processors, options (like physical keyboards for those of us that like them).

      • Skunk13

        Agreed my two biggest complaints with all the android devices I have owned, as well as speed to camera, and speed to repeatedly take photos.

        I was hoping for a Android killer today and it didn’t come. It’s the Nexus Prime for me!

        • John Landgrave

          If you’re willing to root and throw CM on your phone, you can get to camera pretty quick. Set up a lock screen gestures for your camera and you can fly through it, booting camera as you pull it out of your pocket if you’re skilled =p

      • Anonymous

        It’s not Android that needs better cameras and screens. Android is the OS. Software.  It’s on the phone manufacturers, Moto, HTC, LG, Samsung, to make better HARDWARE that will take better pictures and better screens.

        • Papoose34328

          exactly! i did find this to be a “zinger!” tho:

          “With the iPhone 4S, it takes only 1.1 seconds to take photos, while the rival Droid Bionic smartphone will consume 3.7 seconds in taking a photo.
          Moreover, the camera in the 4S will shoot better videos at a definition resolution of 1080p.”What do Droid Bionic customers have to do between taking pictures? Get coffee?” said Schiller.”ouch…

          • You can’t argue that. 5 element lens,

          • Wunderwaffe

            Video recording on the BIONIC is also 1080p and is just as good. Camera is not as good but do not question the BIONIC’S recording.

          • Wunderwaffe

            Video recording on the BIONIC is also 1080p and is just as good. Camera is not as good but do not question the BIONIC’S recording.

          • Papoose34238

            lol the point i was trying to get at was how slow the camera reportedly is. google should just start making high quality phones.

    • sc

      I’m happy that Apple improved the camera, as those celebrities who had their private pics leaked, can now leak better quality pics.

      • 4ever

        in HD quality

    • OG Droid

      Since when has Moto ever listened to their customers. Maybe it will be different under google though

    • Anonymous

      The speed to shooting is surely nice.  I’m not sold on f/2.4 – it’s not like a sensor that small is going to have any depth of field flexibility.  Pretty much everything to infinity is in focus!  It may help keep the noise down, though.

      I’ll give it to Apple, the camera does seem nice (for a cellphone camera), but the 4S isn’t a big enough improvement to satisfy.  Sure, it will be a class leading phone, but I bet it’s looking VERY long in the tooth by March 2012.  The i*hone 5 better be killer if Apple wants to keep power users.

      • I agree. It’s not enough for me. Just pointing out the camera seems to be a leader. 5 element lens, backlit cmos sensor. Id love to test the camera portion out and see how it looks.

    • Anonymous

      +1 I would love to be able to take quality photos. Hell I remember the 3G takiing some quality photos

  • Anonymous

    The Siri stuff is certainly interesting, but it’s not enough to convert me back to the dark side.

  • Smillz2003

    The I*hone 4S is the new I*hone killer… suicide, such a sad way to go out…

  • underwhelming – that phone is almost already behind the curve. I do like their screens and camera though.

  • Juan Moreno

    The fact that screen remains the same resolution and size at a tiny 3.5″ is a big dissapointment.

    • I see the massive Android screens and am happy I do not need to carry a 2nd laptop with me.

  • Anonymous

    I’m torn, i was ready to shell out money for a iphone 5 (thin AL case with the just announced ip4s specs), but if they are keeping the same body, I just might skip it.

    I’ll a few days to see if more info on the nexus prime is leaked/released.

  • Anonymous

    I agree.  I was really looking forward to a cutting edge iphone 5 with ios 5 on it and may have even considered switching for a while, but now this make my decision to stick with Android much easier for another year.  Here’s to hoping ICS and the Prime are up to Apple’s quality standards and even surpasses them.

  • Siri, where can I find an ice cream sandwich?

    • Skunk13

      That”s rich.

    • BA_Carroll

      Bwahahahahaha! Aww man I think just wet myself!

    • Anonymous

      Siri: Stop bullying me..

    • ” in your mom’s vagina’.

    • EC8CH

      Siri, what was that stupid name Tom Cruise named his kid?

      • Anonymous

        It’s like the Teddy Ruxpin of ios

  • Lucasmpinelli

    I couldn’t have said it better myself. I very boring announcement indeed.

  • Toky_neg

    Oh look the Ipod got a new update.. wounder how many more till is all fixed?

  • Matthew Snider

    I like Ice Cream Sandwiches

  • Peter

    iPhone 4S?

    Just a 16 month Slight upgrade

  • Skunk13

    WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All the hoopla for this… Bring on the Nexus

  • Anonymous

    .amazing,.my best friend’s mom makes $77 an hour on the computer. She has been out of job for 9 months but last month her check was $7487 just working on the computer for a few hours. Read about it here ManyRich.com

  • Anonymous

    I don’t understand how you can release one product a year without making sure it’s ahead of the curve. With the pace of Android development, this thing’s going to feel dated very quickly. Hell, the specs about match the Atrix, which was released 6 months ago.

  • Anonymous

    Steve Jobs spearheaded the push for innovation…I think he got out of there just in time for them to fall behind the competition.

    • Gemnistone

      It seems like he planned this move haha…

    • Rob Becker

      You may be right on that one. He saw the writing on the wall and bailed before anyone could blame him for the fail. That or the cancer.

  • LUUKKEE

    Nice announcement.

  • SA

    Prime here too after that show today. Not interested in any screen <4".

  • Grasshopper239

    Yawn. 3.5″ Display = fail

    • tjmonkey15

      I agree.  I think that’s Apple’s biggest mistake with this phone.  3.5 inch screen is waaaay too small (in my opinion).

      • EC8CH

        People want bigger screens on their phones.  If the simple minded consumer passed on the i*hone, it will be more times than not for this reason.

        • StanleySpadowski

          That isn’t the only reason I didn’t buy an iphone, but it is a big one. My mom and my stepdad both have the 4 and it seemed pretty cool until I got my Droid X. Now when I have to show them something on their phones it seems way to small.

      • NYCLawyer

        That’s what she said.

      • Yeah so big of a mistake that it is the best selling smartphone on the market. 

        • Anonymous

          it took a while for AOL to die too..

        • BionicCommando4231

          And the Big Mac is the #1 burger..

          • Anonymous

            That sir, is called pwnage.

        • Anonymous

          That just tells me that there is alot more hipster fagtards than I thought

  • Ex-Apple-Lover

    My reaction?  As an iPhone owner, I feel like we just got bent over and screwed and now we’re expected to thank them and ask for more?

    I’m tired of following Apple off a cliff like a stupid lemming.

    Prime, here I come!  I’m free from my delusions.

    • Anonymous

      Why do you feel like you got screwed?

      • Anonymous

        Why wouldn’t you if you’d been waiting for the new big thing from Apple?

        Poor guy…

        =)

    • Fortesquieu

      I’m sorry it took you that many years to realize that you got screwed. Iphone, 2g, 3g, 3gs, four generations, then now 4 and 4s. 

      • Jarred Sutherland

        With regards to the first gen iPhone, how were people getting screwed? I owned the 2g, it was the BEST device out at that time. As much as people want to hate Apple, they took a step that other people were not doing anything other than playing about in. 

        Please don’t even give me WinMo as an option for devices at that time, as those were complete and total trash, I owned several.

        I love Android, but you have to give it to Apple for introducing a phone that wen’t against the grain at the time. It turned out to be a great investment.

        • Davros

          I hate aphole but you are absolutely right. (looks down and kicks a rock)

        • DBK

          Palm wants a word with you…..

          • Anonymous

            I read about the iPhone 2G on my Blackberry Curve’s browser…just saying.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            And Palm had complete crap at that time too. Where is Palm today? If they had a great product at the time, they should have played it.

          • Anonymous

            web OS is actually pretty cool. I dont know why nobody took interest in it. Android is better, but web OS isn’t bad.

          • It was the hardware that made it crap not the OS. I mean what person with fingers bigger than a 2 year old could use the keyboard?! And that was just the beginning.

          • Donnavon Hallgren

            SHitty hardware….

        • Billy Jenkins

          True. And I respect Apple for that. What Apple did was invent something new. They invented a touch screen smartphone with a built in media player and app store. And then every year since then they released the same phone with a few changes and improvements and only changed 1 letter or number in the name.  But a few years after inventing this new technology Google stepped up and greatly improved it. And just like elementary school bullies Apple didn’t like being second so they got jealous and did everything they could to become number 1 again. And they failed at that as well. So Steve Jobs did the only thing he was capable of doing. He stepped down as CEO of Apple.

          • Michael Scrip

            Wow….

            Let’s not forget the man is dying of a couple kinds of cancer…

            And if your definition of failing is Apple selling 20 million smartphones in a quarter to bring in $12 Billion in revenue… you might wanna rethink that.

            Apparently Motorola’s entire mobile operation is only worth $12 Billion… Apple can generate that kind of money in 90 days. (not that they have to wait that long… Apple could already buy Motorola 6 times over with cash on hand)

            So tell me again how Apple is failing?  Because Android sells more since it’s on a hundred different devices from dozens of manufacturers?

            Apples to oranges… no pun intended.

          • Anonymous

            apple has more money than the U.S. gov and the best selling phone/tab/and media player in the world year after year….fail is not in their vocabulary

          • TomHolmes

            If you look in the 4S version of their dictionary, you’ll see that “fail” was just added.

        • J Dub

          True, but they have lost it recently. The latest OS added features others have had for a long time. The form factor is stale now. With Android phones evolving in leaps and bounds, Apple gets farther behind. I mean look at the GS2. It was released back in March and Apple is just now catching up to it. Samsung has the GS3 right around the corner. Who knows what that’s gonna bring?

        • Alucard9114

          apple started it all most smart phones are built just like the first iphone for instance (iphone 4S) LMAO Burn!!!!!!!!
           

      • Anonymous

        There are all the same shit lol

    • Anonymous

      We welcome you into the realm of Android.

      • Anonymous

        I think the following comment pulled from Engadget’s live blog say’s it all.

        “11:11AM Also, if you’re in the Cupertino area for the next half-hour or so, swing by and say hello. We’re the pair of dudes near the front with Android handsets.”

        • Anonymous

          How I felt about it, in image form:

          http://awesomeer.com/images/weekendatstevies.png

          October 11th, don’t let me down.

          • Anonymous

            Thats horrible

          • Anonymous

            That’s so wrong.  And yet I laughed anyway…

        • Anonymous

          I thought that quote was great, and they didnt sound impressed at all, although i did like its camera

          • Anonymous

            Ya, wasn’t that big a deal. Also, I liked the fact that they were android users covering an apple event and were impartial the whole time about it. An actual mature grownup covering a different phone OS then the one they use and not being D.B.’s about it. Go figure.

    • Mctypething

      u mad bro?

      • Anonymous

        u 12 bro?

        • Skittleoid

          Finally someone has said something to that annoying kid who post “are you mad bro” in every post to get thumbs. Thank you

    • ComeOnApple

      I got an Apple friend that was just floored. He couldn’t believe that was all!!! I was even disappointed a little, and I don’t even like Apple. All I can say is bring on the Prime!!!

    • Captmilk

      Apple has been doing this for ever….coming out selling the same product in a different package.

      • Cmonnats23

        actually its the same package, just like 2 of the contents have been changed! haha

      • Michael Scrip

        Droid –> Droid 2
        Evo –> Evo 3D
        Droid X –> Droid X2

        Apple’s not alone…

        • but none of those were nearly as hyped as the i-bumpedupthespecstoselltomylemmings phone

        • Benjamin Landwehr

          Yes, but those just kind of came out(Evo 3D had right to be advertised a lot though, while just a gimmick, it’s 3D).  They weren’t really meant to be the next flagship phone.  Therefore, not too much advertising.  They were basically just upgrades for people wanting newer stuff on the phones they loved.  Kind of like the Droid 3.  I’ve seen it on one commercial and it wasn’t even mentioned, the guy was just using it.  Now the Droid 4.. that’ll be bigger.

        • Nerdslogic

          You are partially correct….but all of those “upgrades” you listed were all competitive with any other phone on the market….this idont is not. There are phones out they already supersede these specs

          • Benjamin Landwehr

            Not really.  They’re to bring in revenue and extra money alongside flagship phones.  Kind of how like Apple doesn’t discontinue the later generations of phones.  They still want to make people happy with cheaper phones, and still bring in money.
            My Droid 3 isn’t meant to be a head-to-head Droid Prime opponent or iPhone 4 opponent like the Droid Bionic is advertised to be.  

        • Anonymous

          Not one of the products you mentioned took 15 months either though.  
          If Moto made 1 device then waited 15 months to drop the next one, and it looked the same and acted the same but you could talk to it and take better pictures I would assume they would be dead by now. 
          Apple OTOH leverages the “but its an iphone thats why it’s better” crowd, so impressed they have a slightly polished version of something any Android user had in 2009.  

          Truth is, there is something better coming from them but why not rake in some extra revenue with a device refresh first.  Question is will they do it for holiday season, spring break, or summer?  So now the 5 will be slimmer bigger screen and same guts that they have proven for X months with the public now.  Then they have a reason to dawdle with adding LTE and stuff too, that can be for the 5s a year from now, cause they’ll still sell 20m of whatever they make, to idiots. 

          • Michael Scrip

            True… Motorola makes plenty of phones throughout the year.

            But Motorola’s entire mobile division is only worth $12 Billion (the figure Google will be paying for it)

            Apple makes that kind of money in 3 months.

            So… is Motorola’s method of making tons of phones the best way? Or Apple’s way of only making a new phone once a year?

    • palomosan

      I’m not an Apple fan but I was also dissapointed, I was specting a bigger iPhone to compete.

      Because competion brings the best out of people and other companies would had to raise their bar even higher because let’s all admit it, Apple change the world of smartphones.

      • Anonymous

        Completely agree.

      • Yeah it was a really boring presentation. I was a little confused as to why they pushed the announcement back if all it really was a better processor.  

      • Michael Scrip

        I dunno…. Android hardware makers are already pushing the envelope in raw hardware specs. I hear quad-core Android phones are next… and that decision was made long before Apple even announced a dual-core phone.  Plus Android’s got NFC and 3D cameras.

        Now it’s up to Google to come up with some killer features in Ice Cream Sandwich.

      • Tboltuser

        Agree completely.  I love my android phone, and the one before that, but I was hoping for a decent iPhone release to push competition.  As an android user, I believe my OS is superior, so I’m always wanting better hardware.  Hopefully the Prime is the beast it’s rumored to be.

    • The fact that you started an account just to pretend to be an ex iOS user is pretty comical.

      • Anonymous

        There he is

        • EC8CH

          He’s like Droid-Life’s pet Troll.  

          • Anonymous

            LMAO!!!!! He’s our Apple Fan Boy BIIIIIOOOTTTCCCCHHHH!!!!!

      • Anonymous

        No Jeff you are just delusional as usual 😛  So whats your Spin on the latest development from Apple HQ’s and your fan base???  Android Fans want to know 😛 

        • Would i have preferred a brand new iPhone 5? Sure. However the A5 crushes every other mobile chip out there right now. The new camera crushes every camera out there right now. Siri is so far beyond Google Voice that to compare them isn’t even fair. The best phone on the market just got even better so its hard for me to be upset or disappointed. 

          • Anonymous

            I can say opinion statements and pretend like they are fact as well

          • Anonymous

            Dude you’re smoking 15 hits of Apple Crack, I have 10 people in my office right now that are serious Apple Fans and they’re not too happy The specs are a little upgrades a dual core but you seem to think it’s the Best dual core ever made lol

            These guys are Apple purest and they’re baffled by this move and pissed lol C’mon Jeff admit it you’re too proud to admit the failure here, it’s ok we respect you more for admiting it. If it was Android I would admit to you!!! Proud aside you know it’s true. C’mon Jeff, really it’s ok man I feel for you 🙂

          • Bioniccommando4231

            0 of 3 apple fans in my office was impressed. 0 plan to buy it. One said its just part of the master plan and just wait 6 mos until the ifail5 comes out.

            That sucks having to wait 6mos to get a crack of being cutting edge again. There are at least 5 baddass android phones out before then, let alone whats not announced.

          • Anonymous

            All of that is hearsay until it is proven. Directly compared to even the Samsung Galaxy II it does not stand up. They were comparing the iPhone 4S to Android devices that launched months ago. 16 months to wait for something that is compared older devices? Apple should be leading the pack after that and be on the cutting edge. I know in your head your logic is undeniable but really? Plus Siri will not launch until Spring of 2012? WEAK these are features that Android has currently and they work just fine, imagine in Spring of 2012? Do yourself a favor and pick up the Galaxy Nexus Prime (or whatever its called) I think you would be pleasantly surprised.

          • Siri has already been out. It was available as an app from the App Store. Apple bought them to integrate it into the OS. I’ve used Siri already. 

          • Anonymous

            For now…

          • Anonymous

            All of that is hearsay until it is proven. Directly compared to even the Samsung Galaxy II it does not stand up. They were comparing the iPhone 4S to Android devices that launched months ago. 16 months to wait for something that is compared older devices? Apple should be leading the pack after that and be on the cutting edge. I know in your head your logic is undeniable but really? Plus Siri will not launch until Spring of 2012? WEAK these are features that Android has currently and they work just fine, imagine in Spring of 2012? Do yourself a favor and pick up the Galaxy Nexus Prime (or whatever its called) I think you would be pleasantly surprised.

        • Anonymous

          He is waiting for his iphone to innovate lol

      • Anonymous

        Give us your spin then. It’s the best phone out there, right? LOL

        Apple literally didn’t innovate anything in over a year with their phone and it’s the only fuggin platform so you’d think they’d at least work on an update to the body, right? Literally just changing internal cores and bumping up the camera resolution? LMAO!

        • Michael Scrip

          “Literally just changing internal cores and bumping up the camera resolution? LMAO!”

          Kinda like Evo –> Evo 3D

          One year later… not a lot changed.

          But somehow it’s bad when Apple does it…

          • Missthetrain

            Yeah, I also would like you to count the other “choices” and technologies that came out in between. You might have to take off your shoes.

          • Michael Scrip

            What… like adding 3D cameras to the Evo? That’s a good one.

            That example was just that… an example. The Evo was all primed to be the next iPhone killer. It wasn’t… and they “upgraded” it a year later. It got a speed-bump, more cameras and a better screen.

            Or are you talking about the entire Android platform in general… with its multi-manufacturer strategy which, by nature, offers tons of choice?

            Apple is a single company… with a very efficient product line. They aren’t shoveling out a dozen models a year.

          • Benjamin Landwehr

            Might not be a bad idea, though?  Have more phones to fit specific needs and wants of their loyal fans?  Android, if I want a good phone with a keyboard, I can get it.  If I want a 4.52″ screen, I can get it.  If I want 3D, I can get it.  The list goes on.

          • droidd

            But releasing dozens of phones a year isn’t Apple. They aren’t that type of company. It’s not about choice, either. Apple is now making the iPhone available on 3 of the 4 major carriers (T-Mobile may not be around in the next couple years), and now offer low-, mid-, and high- end versions of their very successful phone. Apple doesn’t operate like a typical technology company. Like it or not, they’re more of a “boutique”-style company. As Michael Scrip has said, “Apples to oranges… no pun intended.”

          • Missthetrain

            Homer Simpson wasn’t a fictional character after all. Now I know why they call them (you know who you are) clones. Since we’re talking about the Evo, may I suggest visiting HTC site (if possible) a single company and see what they offered in the time between the Evo and the Evo 3D. I am typing this on my 27″ imac, my wife is using an iPhone so no hard feeling just stating the facts brother. LTE has been here a while, that should be at least on any manufacture flagship device that’s coming soon.

          • Michael Scrip

            Yeah… HTC makes plenty of phones each year.

            Apple doesn’t.

            And Apple still sells more phones than HTC.

      • Mctypething

        u mad bro?

      • Anonymous

        Are you still crying bro lol?

      • Anonymous

        Doesn’t apple has a website, so you can cry about your feelings towards your wack iphone?

    • Anonymous

      I doubt you’ve ever owned an iPhone. 

    • Rdwngssck

      ” I feel like we just got bent over and screwed and now we’re expected to thank them and ask for more”
      most Apple fans do 🙂

    • Anonymous

      I own the Thunderbolt as my personal phone but have an iPhone 4 as my work phone. Once my iPhone kicks the bucket or I find a phone on the AT&T network that I like enough I will be going over to an Android phone as my work phone. 

      • Anonymous

        I’m in the same boat… so I get a taste of both sides.. obviously you know my views with me checking this site daily.. but it is really a different strokes for different folks game.. I recommend iOS to some Android to others… I just think of my ip4 as an app jukebox.. the apps are usually much more polished, but android as an OS kills iOS in my eyes… can’t wait for ICS

        • Anonymous

          Only thing i love about the iphone is the display and the sensors.

    • welcome!

    • Billy Jenkins

      Welcome to the Android world. And you even picked a good android phone to start with. I guarantee you no regrets from switching sides.

    • Alucard9114

      well plaid sr well plaid!

    • Anonymous

      I heard resounding laughter which is pretty much the sound that stock makes when it falls. 

    • Anonymous

      Reason #1 why I’m glad I’m not an iFan:

      iFan: Wait one month
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      Apple: Here is our new phone!
      iFan: That’s it???
      Apple: Come back in 12-16 months, and we’ll have another!

      At least when an Android phone launch is disappointing, you know there’s another one next month, if not next week…

      • Benjamin Landwehr

        NO!  You see, this way they can come out with the iPhone 5 6months later, so the iPhone 4S buyers get ripped.

        • Anonymous

          Just like when we buy a Bionic and the Nexus Prime comes out LESS than 6 months later.

          • Benjamin Landwehr

            Two different companies though, not the same. Plus rumors for the Prime have been out quite a while now so that’s kind of on you.

    • Anonymous

      If the prime is well built i might get it, if it does not droid razor here I come

  • Juan Moreno

    After watching the Keynote, I am more excited than before for the Nexus Prime.

  • Frankskiy65

    Not all That its cracked up to be I want some Ice Creammmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Prime looks awesome, but I can’t wait for the RAZR!!!

  • SA

    Pretty diasppointing…and I own a lot of AAPL shares. Ouch.

  • Pghsteelertime08

    Android or kill yourself

  • I was going to go with the better of *gasp* 4S or Prime. Apple made it an extremely easy decision. This doesn’t match up against the SGSII, let alone whatever the GSIII is. 15 months for… catch up.

    • Gamer 28

      That unfair, you have to wait for the iPhone 5 to compete with the Galaxy S II.

      • Anonymous

        It’s unfair that Apple gets in its own way?…

        • Gamer 28

          No, I’m saying that it’s unfair to compare the best Android device with an iPhone. You have to give Apple atleast another year to compete. To be honest though, the iPhone 4s will most likely have a must nicer user experience simple because of hardwaer acceleration. The only Android phone with good hardware acceleration right now is the Galaxy S II, that’s why it’ browser is so much smoother than any other device, even the new Bionic. It’s not only hardware, but well implemented software aswell.
          If you were to play with a Mango phone, you’d see how much of a difference it makes even with just a 1ghz single core phone.
          I’m really hoping for ICS to bring much better Hardware Acceleration so that I can always have buttery smooth transcitions, much like on the GSII.

          • Wunderwaffe

            The BIONIC has a really smooth browser sir, even with FLASH PLAYER 11.0

  • Juan Moreno

    iPhone 4S; it just catches up to the Android standard.The only worthwhile feature is the fact that it is a world phone.

    • Anonymous

      I wouldn’t say it catches up to Android. It still lacks proper 4G and still carries the puny screen size. Its most certainly a step forward for iOS, but its got a ways to go to catch up to Android. At the pace Android is moving, its not likely that it will.

  • Anonymous

    Nothing new here, Android continues to rule.

  • TJ Egan

    Apple, major fail! This opened the door for the Vigor and Nexus Prime to finally steal the crown of ‘iPhone KILLER’!

  • Anonymous

    prime or vigor for me

  • Anonymous

    Can’t wait for the Prime, either..

  • Philip Van Luke

    Nexus Prime here i come

    • Philip Van Luke

      I will be honest if the i*hone 5 would have been announced today with the rumored aluminum unibody design and edge to edge 4 inch screen that probably would have been my next phone as i really feel like i got screwed on this thunderbolt. but i loved my droid X so i know its not androids fault.

      i just need a nexus phone, no more untimely updates, no more skin upgrades that i get left behind on, or features that dont work. (has anyone tried video chatting between 2 thunderbolts? the feedback looping is unreal) Give me the nexus prime and let me love my phone again.

      • Telephoneteck

        Wow, I feel the same way! Except the part about the I*hone. My thunderbolt is only made tolerable through root, liquid roms, cm7 and das bamf!

      • Agreed.

      • Do you want to love your Thunderbolt again? Root it (revolutionary.io is super easy) and install a ROM (Bamf Forever 1.0.7 is working geat for me). You’ll fill like it’s entirely new phone (up to date Android version and newest Sense skin, if you like, oh, and better battery life and many nice things too).

        As for video chatting on Thunderbolts I tried Skype leak a few months ago and it worked just great (didn’t need it afterwards so I didn’t try). No feedback at all.