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Oracle Deletes Evidence Pointing To Sun’s Approval Of Java Use In Android

If anyone has been following the case against Google made by Oracle about an alleged infringement on Oracle’s Java software, then you may be pleased to hear that Google might have gotten a good piece of evidence to help fight the money hungry Oracle. A couple years ago, Sun was bought by Oracle, and Sun were the holders of Java. A blog post made by Sun’s CEO shows that he was just fine with Google’s use of Java on their OS. Even going as far to state that all of Sun’s development resources should be based around the platform. 

I’d also like Sun to be the first platform software company to commit to a complete developer environment around the platform, as we throw Sun’s NetBeans developer platform for mobile devices behind the effort. We’ve obviously done a ton of work to support developers on all Java based platforms, and were pleased to add Google’s Android to the list. – Jonathan Schwartz CEO of Sun

This blog by Mr. Schwartz himself, shall be used in court as an approval of Google to use Java in Android. Definitely sounds like he has no issues with it so far, am I right? In comes Oracle. After acquiring the Java software, Oracle deleted the blog made by the Sun CEO and only recently has it been retrieved using the internet’s wonderful time machine powers. Now Oracle will have to answer for this in court, and we’re hoping a judge will side with Google and their approved use of Java.

But wait, does the CEO of Sun actually mean that Google can use it without paying it’s dues? Back in 2007, CNET touched on these matters and it didn’t sound like Sun was extremely happy with what Google was doing. Sun Microsystems stated that Google was taking Java down a road of fragmentation. (Ring a bell?)

Anything that creates a more diverse or fractured platform is not in developers’ best interests – Executive VP of Sun’s Software

Once Sun saw that Google was possibly taking their work, and turning it into something that would not benefit the community as a whole, they seemingly changed their tune. Google reacted quick with their statement and a rep had this to say:

Google and the other members of the Open Handset Alliance are working to help solve fragmentation and supporting the developer community by creating Android, a mobile platform that responds to the needs of the developers, has the backing of industry leaders, and will be available as open source under a nonrestrictive license.

Does anyone else see a vicious cycle happening here? Keep in mind this was all back in 2007, and it may not even end for quite some time. This story is years in the making, and we’ll keep you posted if anything that may concern Android as a whole, happens. Sun CEO approved of Google’s usage, then retracted approval? Then Oracle erases CEO’s statements anyways? This would be an excellent T.V. Drama.

Via: AndroidAndMe

  • elmer

    Did Oracle only delete Jonathan’s blog, or did they delete all/most of them?  Did they delete the whole blog, or just inconvenient entries?

    I don’t know the answers to these, but you state it as if they specifically deleted this one post, which I find really unlikely.

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  • Darin

    I’m stopping my Oracle Database 11g subscription for this very reason. Greedy bastard!

  • If it was approved by Sun, how is it that Google never mentioned it until now? They must have had some documentation of Sun’s approval. Strange! But if this is true, I hope Oracle’s greed gets rewarded by a huge fine for wasting the federal court’s time with false and fabricated indictments.

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  • Anonymous

    This is very damning for Oracle as I don’t see Sun flip-flopping. Sun gave approval (even a nice endorsement), and then expressed concerns. Hardly the same thing as giving consent and then taking consent away (which, in any case, might not matter once initial, official consent was given).

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  • I can see it now. _____ now runs Java!*

    *Requires a data package of 5GB or higher, subject to removal at anytime**
    **User may or not be aware of it, since we have the power to do anything to your device mwhahahahah***
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  • The fragmentation discussed in the original documents and the ‘fragmentation’ the writer is implying is completely incorrect.  You’re comparing a compiler/developer suite of tools to an Operating System versioning issue brought on by carriers and handset manufacturers.

  • Oracle “Hey guys lets all try to hide something from a company whos main job is finding and recording things to be searched.” 

    Great choice oracle 

    • jay

      i guarantee you that the reason they deleted them was not to hide them from google, but to get rid of the blog of the CEO they canned.

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  • Anonymous

    As someone else pointed out on another thread somewhere, Pretty ironic that someone would try to hide something on the internet,,,, from Google…

    • yeah poor choice, Google is the closest thing we have to time travel. I bow down to my Google overlords 

  • Joshua Granville

    I can see 3 Oracle buildings from my cube

    • Burn them?

      • Anonymous

        The devil already lives in flames

  • oracle is just getting owned 

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  • odd1

    If Oracle had left the post alone it would look much less damning than deleting it.  Just goes to show that patent trolls aren’t always smart about what they are doing

  • Alex W.

    Surprised to scroll to comments and not see people hating on Motorola somehow… or did I speak too soon…

    That’s pretty silly of Oracle, I hope they get raped in court now.

  • I hate Oracle and crazy ass Larry Ellison.

  • ramana

    That’s hardly evidence that Sun approved use of java. Not admissible in court.

    • Anonymous

      Except that it IS admissible in court, considering the fact that the judge allowed it to be used as evidence.

    • They’ll try to use it as an estoppel 

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