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Verizon Demos New Video Chat App on Thunderbolt at LTE Innovation Center, We Want it Now

Verizon opened their brand new LTE Innovation Center yesterday as a place for people to come and, well…innovate.  The idea behind this new Big Red building is to invite tech companies to use some amazing new technologies and then turn around and create their own, that use 4G LTE.  The folks from @Laptopmag were on hand to experience some of these new innovations, and there was one we found particularly polished and what we would consider to be needed- a really sharp looking video chatting application that blows Skype or any other out of the water.  

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  • Emt2er

    I would love to dump this POC T Bolt.  I bought it so I could use Skype.  What I got for my 2000 minute a month plan was a poorly designed POC that reboots for no reason 2 – 3 times a day. 

    Avoid the T Bolt at all costs.  You will be disappointed if you don’t.

    • Anonymous

      Mine only reboots once like every other day, i suggest you look at the pros and cons before telling people not to buy one…oh, and i’m not disappointed at all :)

  • Anonymous

    Everyones talking about root so i’ll jump in:)  I want to root so bad, but i can’t get adb to work on any computer i try.  I follow every single step on the youtube video, but i get to command prompt and it tells me ‘adb’ is not an internal or external command!!  

    • Jason Lee

      This is what i would do. Download the Android SDK. Install it on a folder in the C drive so it would be C:sdk. Then open up cmd. Then type this in without quotes “cd c:sdkplatform-tools” Then you should be golden from there on.

      • Anonymous

        what sdk do you download? It can’t be the adb for dummies one….

    • http://twitter.com/musicandnumbers musicandnumbers

      Are you still stuck?

      • Anonymous

        yes

  • pooperscooper

    Wonder if this is part of the delay for the Droid Bionic?  Motorola wants their hands on this and it woiuld be an excellent marketing tool for the Verizon/Moto partnership.  Hope it actually works but it similar to the days when fax machines came out…hey, do you have a fax machine yet so I can send you a copy of my butt?

  • http://twitter.com/mobileserver Gibson Wong

    No wonder VZW is not releasing Skype for the Thunderbolt.  They want us to use their very own home-made video chat app.

    • http://twitter.com/starnovsky Stan Tarnovsky

      and charge like $15/month to use it

      • Anonymous

        Probably true

      • Anonymous

        Probably true

      • RW-1

        Carry adn extra batt, I’m sure that will suck down the batt, so that could limit your chat time as well …

  • Anonymous

    Finally…some love for the TBolt. That “abandoned” crap is BS. I still have high hopes for my new Buddy :).

    • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

      Im rooting for you tbolt people but it is bs what these companies are doing to you….with that said I would not get the thunderbolt in its current state

  • Anonymous

    We want this as well as GingerBread.  And no I do not want to root my phone, I have never had one problem

  • http://maxtechnewz.blogspot.com/ Max

    if it is only for verizon then i dont want it

  • dave555

    I wonder how much Verizon is going to charge for their video chatting service.

    • Booboolala2000

      9.99 per month of course. It’s like that’s the only amount they know. Lol

    • http://twitter.com/starnovsky Stan Tarnovsky

      Sure they will. Verizon doesn’t believe in free.

  • Anonymous
  • http://twitter.com/addisontodd Addison Todd

    It would be really sweet if the Droid Charge would get some of these cool things… Netflix, Skype video, Gingerbread, etc. 

    • Pentafive

      I have all of that on my Charge…

  • tjhrulz

    This is a great idea, if every Verizon phone with a front facing camera has this in a few years that could be a lot of people. plus if you can also video chat with people on skype even better.

  • eelcram

    It’s kinda funny how she was still “connecting” the whole time while he was still connected.  Pretty bad demo.

    • EC8CH

      Can you SEE me now?

      No… sonofab!tch

    • Mr.Joe

      I highly doubt this is a finished product. 

      • Anonymous

        I think he made that pretty clear.

    • Mr.Joe

      I highly doubt this is a finished product. 

  • garrett sullivan

    Does it work cross platform? If I can call someone on Talk or G+ using this app then it’s a go. But I’d rather see everyone using a single program, than a lot of my friends all using different video chat programs. Seeing as I now have more people talking to me on G+ than I ever did on Skype (the fact that it had to notify me on every device I had it running on was bad enough), I’ll probably start using G+ for all my video chatting needs.

  • http://twitter.com/mfg68 MFG

    Just roll out Gtalk Video for all Froyo devices and up and the problem will be solved. People with Gmail are instantly in. This app, while smooth looking, probably would never catch on, sort of like Tango, Qik, etc…

  • big meech/larry hoover

    Thunderbolt is a sleeping giant

    • Gee

      Thats never going to wake up

    • http://twitter.com/NemaCystX NemaCystX

      with a processor that can do native cpu speeds of 1.2ghz without overclocking.  :)

  • Anonymous

    Xooooooooooooooooooooooooom

  • SemiAutoAZ

    Just in time for tiered data! Too bad the Thunderbolt is an Android fail.

    • http://steamcommunity.com/id/cypherx82 cypherx82

      How so?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1603800094 Cody Clay

        I think all the people bitching and moaning are complaining about lack of updates. They probably havent rooted and therefore thats why they are moaning. 

        • http://steamcommunity.com/id/cypherx82 cypherx82

          Makes sense. Though, with how easy it is, I don’t know why many people don’t
          just do it.

          • big meech/larry hoover

            I’ve been scared to, never used adb or crabby..whatever. I read a lot about it, finally watch a YouTube vid last night. Thought, “that’s it???” Needless to say, I’m rooting this afternoon. Trying out the new liquid Rom first, as I thought liquid was an exceptional Rom on my beloved late OG Droid.

          • http://steamcommunity.com/id/cypherx82 cypherx82

            I guess you just need to get the message out. I remember being scared out of
            my mind when first rooting my OG Droid, afraid I was going to brick it and
            end up with a $200 paperweight, but it all worked out fine and I’ve not
            broken a sweat since.

          • http://steamcommunity.com/id/cypherx82 cypherx82

            I guess you just need to get the message out. I remember being scared out of
            my mind when first rooting my OG Droid, afraid I was going to brick it and
            end up with a $200 paperweight, but it all worked out fine and I’ve not
            broken a sweat since.

          • Anonymous

            The greatest feeling ever, right? I was so scared, but once you do it, all fears are out of the window. 

          • http://profiles.google.com/mpaa.hasta.love.me I Pirate Movies

            just go for it.  it’s really not that difficult if you follow the directions correctly.  i was scared when i first rooted my og droid as well.  by the time i got my thunderbolt i wasn’t afraid at all.  i had it rooted within a few hours of fedex delivering it.

          • Andrew

            Link to Youtube vid?

          • Anonymous
          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1603800094 Cody Clay

            Yeah, it was pretty much the first thing i did after i was done playing with it lol. its like 15 minutes of commands. Simple. 

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1603800094 Cody Clay

            Yeah, it was pretty much the first thing i did after i was done playing with it lol. its like 15 minutes of commands. Simple. 

          • Andrew

            I’d love to root my Thunderbolt and install CM7… but then I saw the instructions and immediately decided to not even attempt. Here’s the instructions:

            http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Thunderbolt:_Full_Update_Guide

            I even tried to get thorugh the first part but those instructions are so terrible, missing so many steps, I just gave up. For instance, the part when it just says “Connect the HTC Thunderbolt to the computer via USB.”, it completely leaves any instructions about what options to pick on the phone (use as mass storage, internet pass through, media sync, etc.). It also doesn’t tell you anything about where to get Thunderbolt drivers that work with your computer’s OS.

            I’m not scared to do it. I just don’t have time in my life for a 12-hour project. Nowhere on the internet have I found a simple, professional looking, step-by-step walkthrough about installing CM7. The forum threads on xda-developers are many pages long and if you even ask for instructions, you’re immediately ridiculed for being a noob.

            There. That’s why “everyone” doesn’t do it.

          • http://steamcommunity.com/id/cypherx82 cypherx82

            I actually made up a set a few days ago on here for someone. It takes maybe
            10 minutes.

          • Andrew

            I would love to see your set of instructions if you don’t mind.

          • http://steamcommunity.com/id/cypherx82 cypherx82

            Here you go, copied from the post. Let me know if you need any help.

            “Assuming you’re already rooted with ROM Manager and ClockworkMod Recovery:

            NOTE: I advise you to make a nandroid backup before attempting this.

            1. Download MR2.5 radio.
            2. Rename PG05IMG.zip and place on root of SD card.
            3. Download CM7 for MR2.5 and latest gapps and place both on root of SD card.
            4. Boot into bootloader (VolDwn + Power) and flash new radio (hit power on Bootloader, the pre-selected option and use volume keys to accept update.)
            5. Once update is finished, boot into CWMR.
            6. Wipe everything (Data, cache, and dalvik under advanced.)
            7. Flash CM7 and gapps.

            Links:
            CM7 thread & download: http://forum.xda-developers.co…
            MR2.5 radio: http://forum.xda-developers.co…
            GApps: http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gap… 

            That should be it.

            EDIT: Fixed formatting.”

          • Anonymous

            http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
            Do this first, and then follow Cypherx82’s instructions. 

        • Anonymous

          You should not have to root to update quality. Rooting is not part of the package it’s a bonus, an optimization. When you spend over 200 clams on a phone and shell out big bucks for data packages on top of data package you expect the phone/thing/whatever to work well and be valid for more than an month. A lofty expectation, I know, but still people who don’t root should not be looked upon as lepers but more of as folks who have an expectation of everything promised actually being delivered. Sorry for the soap box but i’m just getting tired of all the excuses.

          • Pooch

            I did root my OG Droid, but at some point in life, some of us just get extremely busy.  Between my work, wife, kids, etc., I have happened to fall out of love with spending/losing time customizing and rooting.  I have fallen into that category of people that just want it to work.  While I still appreciate all of the things that the custom ROM developers are doing, I just haven’t found the time or desire to go through rooting my phone, and get into all the other stuff that goes with it (the time and effort of switching ROM’s to find the one that I find works the most, tweeking the appearence and settings, reorganizing, etc.)  More recently, I am ashamed to say that I am starting to be less jaded to Apple and the iPhone.  I may be becoming me of a sheep, or an old person, but I believe that I have lost the romance with the “customizing my phone” lifestyle.

            I haven’t rooted my ThunderBolt, and may very well do it in the next month, but I think that the segment of the android market, that is like me, is growing and may have a lot to do with age.  Maybe I am getting old.  By the way, I am 35.

          • Anonymous

            30 minutes. It takes 30 minutes to root the Thunderbolt. I understand that people have busy lives, but is 30 minutes to read and follow instructions that big of an inconvenience?

          • Yagermeister

            It is not just 30 minutes unfortunately. It is not just the act and time of rooting but the time to customize, tweak, reorganize. I am just like Pooch. With the OG Droid I would end up spending hours multiple times a week messing around with the OG Droid to get it where I want it. I now have a TBolt and have no desire to root…I just want it to work and get updates in a timely fashion.

          • Anonymous

            But you don’t have to tweak or customize. Just keep your setup and have your TB rooted. Get your free wireless tether, bloatware removal, app + data backups, and overclocking. 

            Just because you are rooted, it doesn’t mean that you will spend hours upon hours trying to test out all the custom ROMs and tweaks. It is there if you WANT to go that route. 

          • TheNuttyTrinitron

            Uhh….you can’t even root the TB from stock without having it wiping the phone and starting fresh again…that alone takes a lot of time to rebuild.

          • mdeblaz

            I rooted my Eris and there’s no way it only takes 30 minutes.  Sure, the actual rooting might be quick, but add to that the research needed to be done on custom ROMs… or flashing custom ROMs to see which one works the best… or constantly having to update your custom ROM to the latest versions so that the overall stability is better… or configuring your newly rooted device to OC and run the way you want it… There’s a lot more time spent on rooting than just 30 minutes.

            I agree with Pooch… I’d rather just have it work

          • Anonymous

            And I’d rather have Google push out updates OTA. But it’s not a possibility at the moment. There are options out there, yes you have the right to complain, but what will that do? Verizon and all the other carriers are going to do what they want. This isn’t new. 

            But I guess it’s all about what is the biggest inconvenience to you. Not having the features you want or the time/effort to root and tweak?

          • Anonymous

            One last note so as not to beat a dead horse, because I get what you’re saying. However, I just got a 50 dollar credit from Verizon (without asking for it) based on telling them my story with my Xoom purchase. They transferred my service to my iPad, with a promise in writing that I could transfer it back to my Xoom at any time, gave me a full month service on my phone AND the 4g service (the 50 bucks) in writing with their acknowledgement of the issues of both my phone and my Xoom. So yes, complaining does work, and it’s the lack of it that has allowed customer service to become a dinosaur. You expect shit, you get it. You have to raise the bar. I know I sound old, but oh well, I’m tired of settling. Thank you for a spirited debate but most of all, thanks for not being like the usual pricks I see using insults to make your point, I appreciate that! 

          • Anonymous

            This is what Verizon is suppose to do, without calling to complain. I am happy that Verizon is compensating you for the Xoom fiasco. 

          • Anonymous

            One last note so as not to beat a dead horse, because I get what you’re saying. However, I just got a 50 dollar credit from Verizon (without asking for it) based on telling them my story with my Xoom purchase. They transferred my service to my iPad, with a promise in writing that I could transfer it back to my Xoom at any time, gave me a full month service on my phone AND the 4g service (the 50 bucks) in writing with their acknowledgement of the issues of both my phone and my Xoom. So yes, complaining does work, and it’s the lack of it that has allowed customer service to become a dinosaur. You expect shit, you get it. You have to raise the bar. I know I sound old, but oh well, I’m tired of settling. Thank you for a spirited debate but most of all, thanks for not being like the usual pricks I see using insults to make your point, I appreciate that! 

          • Anonymous

            That’s not the point. We’re not complaining because the wallpaper isn’t customizable (purely example) we’re complaining because nobody told us the battery would drain in 4 hours, making business use ridiculous. We’re complaining because it’s July and I still have no SD card in my 850 desktop paperweight that’s costing 50 dollars a month for my 4g service while only using 3g. On the advice and promise of my local Verizon that I would see an update in less than a month. Stupid me, I believed a retailer, so yea, I take the blame for that. Doesn’t make it right. We’re complaining because changing the fundamental aspects of a device to make it acceptable in daily use is NOT why we pay hundreds of hard earned, non parent given, money every month. Finally, we’re complaining because when we make a choice to go somewhere else based on lack of acceptable usability, we’re then charged for leaving. I’d root my Tunda Bow in a minute, but why? I’d do it because I want a choice of roms, hidden features, etc. NOT because I HAVE to root it to make it work right.  Oh, and btw, I’m using the tunda bow as an example, since I started doing a battery pull once per day I now get 17 hours on moderate days and over 11 on heavy use days (no hotspot).

          • Anonymous

            I agree with you. The way Motorola and Verizon is handling the Xoom deserves a class action lawsuit placed against them. As far as the Thunderbolt, I am just suggesting people to do what has been known to work. Verizon is going to do what it wants to do, when it wants to do it. Is it right? No, but what can we do? I am just trying to get people to understand that while it shouldn’t be like this, there are options. 

            But to each their own. 

          • Anonymous

            Options. Understood. I like the fact that there are places like this, and certainly PEOPLE that make root and other things happen. This is by no means an argument against rooting. Only an argument against rooting to make up for a crap service. I love the rooting concept, hell it’s not like I haven’t done it. On the xoom thing yea, I’m pissed. I’m really more pissed that I’m using an iPad every day for everything and I bought the xoom to avoid apple. That’s the real irony.

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, that Xoom thing sucks big time. Motorola has lost me as a customer. 

          • Anonymous

            Rooting is only the tip of the iceberg though.  If you are rooting for optimizations, likely that means a custom rom.  Then you need to find which custom rom you like.  Then you wait for 5 iterations while something (normally something you really use) gets “fixed” after it becomes botched.  Example:  GB on any OG Droid.  Does 3G work yet without having to go into airplane mode and back several times a week or even day?  Or how about your favorite rom dev puts out a new update and BAM! your BT doesn’t work anymore?  Then its either flash back or wait for the next rom.

            I’m with many others here.  I want Google and the manufacturers to do it right so I don’t *have* to root.  Make me not want to have to root.  I rooted for speed optimizations (OG Droid drove me nuts with the screen lag) but otherwise I wouldn’t have felt the need.  Well, besides for GB which is BS that Moto didn’t do for the OG Droid since it was only just over a year old when GB was released.  This time I’m looking for more support from the manufacturers.  More updates.  Keeping up with Google releases now that they have slowed down.  Stop releasing a ton of phones and focus on making the experience the best it can be on the ones that are out while releasing one or two new units a year.  You know what, I’d even go for a light subscription program to keep my phone up to date  for up to two years after the last model unit was sold.  Call it extended support to keep it worth the manufacturer’s effort to keep pumping out updates.  Yeah, call me crazy, but I’d pay a small subscription to keep the phone up to date and optimal.  Things like improving the camera software, the latest Android release, cool high quality optional apps customized for the phone, etc.

          • chmcclellan

            I don’t think you are looked upon as lepers per se.  Rather, when a solution is in front of your face for the taking (with only a little initiative) complaining that you want a different solution provided to you (whether deserved or not) just gets annoying.  Really children more than lepers. Sorry for the soap box but I’m just getting tired of all the whining.

          • Pooch

            How are we children?  I think you went a little overboard on your retort, without applying the perspective of the other person’s shoes.  There are a fair amount of people with less free-time on their hands and where their time is extremely valuable to them.  Maybe having to the time and effort of rooting their phone (some people are more technically savvy than others) and voiding the warranty of their phone is not appealing.  Maybe they deserve to have the expectation that something should work, as that is what is sold to them. 

            Pooch

          • bb

            Plus, not all of us are allowed to root our phones (for instances, some who use phones for enterprise purposes may be precluded from doing so by company policies).  We shouldn’t be shut out from having a decently working phone.

          • chmcclellan

            Perhaps I did go a little overboard, riffing off the lepers hyperbole.  If you took offense to it I apologize.  My point isn’t that you don’t have the right to expect better service from the carriers/manufacurers.  Rather that when it is clear you won’t get the expected/deserved service looking to those who are providing updates (of what I think is superior quality) makes sense.  As others in the thread have made clear, given that the community has made rooting quite accessible, I am just not sure the time objection is a good one.  I can backup, flash an update, and customize to my liking in the time it takes my wife and I to watch a TV show.

          • chmcclellan

            Perhaps I did go a little overboard, riffing off the lepers hyperbole.  If you took offense to it I apologize.  My point isn’t that you don’t have the right to expect better service from the carriers/manufacurers.  Rather that when it is clear you won’t get the expected/deserved service looking to those who are providing updates (of what I think is superior quality) makes sense.  As others in the thread have made clear, given that the community has made rooting quite accessible, I am just not sure the time objection is a good one.  I can backup, flash an update, and customize to my liking in the time it takes my wife and I to watch a TV show.

          • Anonymous

            i would love a droid-life tutorial on rooting the thunderbolt. please kellex, make it happen!

          • Anonymous

            http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
            ^Step by step. Easy to follow, just READ and copy and paste the terminal commands. It should not take you more than a half hour, hour max if you like to double and triple check that everything is correct. 

          • Anonymous

            or just use the one click…

          • Anonymous

            We have EVERY right to expect the promised features and service we paid for to work. Period.
            Incidentally, no offense taken, there’s far too many personal attacks and little kiddie disrespect in this day and age but there’s nothing wrong with honest debate. My point is, rooting, going against manufacturers recommendations, is fun. It should be a bonus, an unexplored territory like it was when customizing first occurred. It should not, however, take the place of fundamental function and promised/advertised features.  We have become a group of “it’s not what I wanted, but it’ll do” based consumers. That’s just not good enough for some of us. You tell me the car will start ,it better start, without me having to buy an MSD ignition. (to use your vehicle reference).

          • Anonymous

            Well said.

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    Coming Holiday 2012…

  • Superfoot

    Sweet!