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More on Verizon’s Tiered Data Plans and How Long You Get to Stay Unlimited

What you are seeing above is a Q&A sample that Verizon employees are being trained on which has to do with the new tiered data plans we first reported on earlier this week.  We’ve highlighted a couple of items that you will want to pay close attention to.

The first green box has to do with upgrades and renewals.  We’ve made it 100% clear a number of times that even after July 6, existing customers will be able to keep their unlimited data plans even during an upgrade or renewal.  The initial thought was that this could be for an extended period of time, but according to this screenshot, that has now changed to “at this time.”  How should we interpret that?  Well, I’m interpreting that as meaning there are plans to make existing customers convert to tiers at some point, much like they had to do with the New Every 2 deal that was axed at the beginning of this year.  This is just speculation, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Verizon gives existing customers all one last upgrade and renewal with unlimited data before making them choose a tier.

The second box is for those of you with feature phone lines that have unlimited data – it’s looking like you won’t be so fortunate come July 7 and thereafter.  Even if you have an unlimited plan on a “dumb” phone at this time, it apparently will not carry over to a new smartphone plan should you upgrade after the 6th.  You’ll have to choose a tier if you decide to upgrade to a 3G or 4G smartphone.

And apologies for the number of posts that have to do with tiered data, but we want to make sure that you have every little detail before this goes live.

Cheers TheGhostbuster007!

  • Daniel Hall

    what happens if i buy a phone outright from a separate supplier at full retail and upgrade my phone that way. Would I lose my unlimited data?

  • This pisses me off! I went to a store yesterday with the intent of getting another smartphone added to my acct and they said since I was grandfathered in it would be the same for me no matter when I added it LYING Jerk’s!!!

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  • Scott

    Sprint here I come!

  • Rob1035

    So is there any more info on the customers currently on 3g unlimited and wanting to upgrade to a 4g device after 7/7?

  • Noemail

    So heads up. I use to work for VZW? Here is what they will do. You get to keep the data plan for this round of phones. You will then upgrade to a new phone next go around. Those phones then wont support the plan and thus you will need to get a new plan with the new phone, losing the unlimited data plan. This happened all the time in VZW. New plans will come that are only supported by the new phones thus making you change. Its a complete circle. Just realize in two years, that unlimited data is gone.

  • Bigmammoth50

    Just looking for 3g to 4g upgrade after the 7th confirmation.

  • faber

    Verizon: no unlimited = no $ from me.

  • Jeremytoone1

    Does anyone know weather they are going to charge more for 4-G service? Sprint charges $10 for 4-G even though it’s not available here in NM. It sounded like if you upgrade to a 4-G now and they start to charge,you would be grandfathered in and escape future charges.

  • Lmbrocks

    No doubt setting up the4g net work iskw big bucks. They may have no choice but to raise pricing to cover cozt

  • I think it’s time for a price comparison graph between Sprint, ATT and Big Red please!

  • I’m glad I got the Samsung Continuum as my “toss around” phone vs using my old Samsung Intensity (feature phone)

  • Anonymous

    Verizon just got some fishing line and is reeling people in by the hundreds, thousands. I can’t tell you how many people I’ve seen post questions about this, yet they think they need to get that 4G handset now to lock in. I think this whole thing is nothing more than a marketing ploy to sucker customers/ future customers into new 2 year contracts.

    You’re gonna see people say I only use this amount of data, so I’m ok with the 2gig limit. Just wait until you start using 4G. You will use 1 gig in a hour, easily. Now, you will be on contract for 2 years, having to spend and at least an extra $10 a month for the overage on data.

    I have to say, Verizon has done a very good job. The carrot is at the end of the stick and people are chasing it.

  • Ziv

    .please keep reporting on this. It’s super important.

    THANK YOU!

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  • jbonics

    Verizon there goes 20%, you never go full retard. Worthless 3G speeds, no i mean no new hardware.

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  • So I’ve got a question for anyone who might know..

    The Bionic/GS2 are rumored to be released by the end of  july yes? Could I use my upgrade at a retailer with a 30 day return/exchange program on the 6th to get grandfathered into unlimited 4g only to switch it out for either of those two?

  • antjonz

    It’s an excellent marketing ploy. Everyone that has a 3G smartphone will at some point get a 4G phone. Once you get used to unlimited 4G speeds for about a year or so, verizon will hit you with the news that “All existing customers with an unlimited data plan will be required to select a tiered data plan upon their next contract upgrade.”  It’s almost like drug dealing. Verizon gets you hooked, then keeps you coming back. We will have all known about the tiered data plans for a while, so will it really be a big shock when they hit us with that news?  It’s honestly a great strategy, as much as I hate to admit it.

    • jbonics

      Other companies already stepping up tiered data plans are for the birds

  • Guest.

    Bottom line…. Do i go get a 4g LTE phone before the 7th? I have a droid X now and use about 15 GiGs a month. Heavy email with attachments.  Also if i buy it at full retail and I upgrade in the fall/winter will I have to go to new tier data plan? 

  • Drake

    Where is this screenshot from?

  • Takethis

    r u guys verizon upgrade credit still useable because a verizon rep told me they are all forfeited if it wasn’t used by  end of last month?

  • Anonymous

    This is really no new news besides moving from feature phone to smartphone.  “At this time” is just a vague statement…that could mean forever, or the next 10 years they’ll allow you to keep unlimited data. 

    I’d probably stick with Verizon as along as I can since I haven’t had much problems with their service and LTE, right now, is pretty awesome.

  • Cloudy320

    I am not interested in Texas Instruments current or
    rumored upcoming processors, but I am interested in Nvidia’s, which
    seem to be further down the line & closer to when I am actually
    eligible to upgrade. I need to know if it is worth switching to a 4G
    phone on behalf of grandfathering with unlimited 4G data before the
    deadline, or if my 3G Unlimited Data plan will turn into 4G Unlimited
    Data naturally down the line.

    • DBK

      You realize the the TIs are faster and smoother than the Tegras, right?

  • DBK

    Since I barely break a gig, let alone two, this really won’t affect me. I am in the majority, too. I guarantee you that at least 95% of the entire Verizon customer base won’t be affected either. I do hope that those of us who already have unlimited plans get to keep it for awhile, but I won’t get my hopes up.

    I will probably get flamed for this, but I am actually in favor of the tiered plans. This means that if (or when) the new plans are universally enforced the many data hogs out there (those that use more than 30 gigs per month) will be forced to show some self control and moderate their usage (regardless of whether or not they tether). Although I do feel bad for those who use the network as their main internet connection and use a lot of data as a result. I hope things work out for you.

    And for those of you who say they are switching carriers, do you realize that soon they will be following Verizon’s lead? Eventually you’ll just end up back at Verizon, so it is kind of pointless to switch (even more so to threaten it).

    Now I’m not saying it’s right or anything, but rather it’s the most appropriate move to make for the time being. Especially if they want to create and maintain some type of order in their system(and believe me, it needs it).

    In my case, since I have been with them for so long, my plan is affordable (Droid 2, Unlimited Data, 450 minutes, 500 text (Unlimited IN-texting)) and will continue to be for awhile (since I don’t plan on changing my phone until I absolutely have to), and I have had great customer service, I have no worries about the changes nor do I have any thoughts (let alone feelings) of leaving.

    These have been my two cents. Take them as you wish.

    • Ckoch0125

      So you will be happy to pay the same price for 2gb as you did for unlimited? Wanna come pay my bill since you must have lots of expendable income or are in alot of debt paying more for less.

      • DBK

        Since I don’t ever go over a gig, I’ll paying what I do now ($30). Not a big deal to me. I can understand why others have a problem with it, and I sympathize. I’m just saying that it’s not a big deal for me, that’s all.

        • the tiered data prices that are in stone now don’t help you at all. In fact you should be fighting for a cheaper plan since you don’t even go over a gig. for example you should be fighting for a $15 plan that only allows 1  GB of data. You shouldn’t be happy… unless your screwed up in the head

          • DBK

            I do occasionally go over a gig, but not by a lot. As long as I don’t pay more than what I am now, then it really doesn’t bother me. Granted, there should be a cheaper option for those that use under a gig, no argument there. $30 is not much to be honest.

        • Anonymous

          Yeah, I don’t think I should pay taxes for schools because I don’t have any kids in school yet. I don’t care about others as long as its good for me.

          • DBK

            And what about those that have kids in school and think that they shouldn’t pay taxes and don’t care about others as long as it benefits themselves? I never said I didn’t care, just that it doesn’t affect me. I’m all for cheaper data plans, I just favor the tiered variety more than the unlimited one. You think the hogs that use over 100gigs a month care about how that effects the rest? It goes both ways. At least tiered it’s more moderated and could pave a path to more fairer plans in the future.

          • TakeTHIS

            I REALLY like that idea!

    • Anonymous

      So what you are saying is that you are shortsighted and selfish?

      By the way, those that get punished are the ones using more than 2GB, not more than 30GB per month. You need to do your research.

      As for myself, I stayed with Verizon even though they had inferior phones (except when the OG came out) and delayed releases. Even plan costs being even, Sprint has better phones – and better reception at my house.

      • DBK

        And you need to read better. I clearly said that I sympathize with those that this does affect and hope that something works out for them. I simply stated that it doesn’t affect me and thus I am not too worried about it.

        Not necessarily, considering $50 a month is not THAT bad, considering it could have been A LOT more. I don’t agree with the overages, though. THAT is a little too much.

        Sprint sucks in my area (both in reception and customer service) and I have played with some of their phones (for shiz and giggles) and was not impressed. I am patient enough to wait until the Bionic or D3 (for this year) and for the new phones next year before thinking about a new phone. Unlike many, I have no desire for the latest and greatest, just the current and stable.

    • Anonymous

      So what you are saying is that you are shortsighted and selfish?

      By the way, those that get punished are the ones using more than 2GB, not more than 30GB per month. You need to do your research.

      As for myself, I stayed with Verizon even though they had inferior phones (except when the OG came out) and delayed releases. Even plan costs being even, Sprint has better phones – and better reception at my house.

  • as long as you buy the phone at full price(don’t renew your contract) that will never be able to force you to a new data plan.

    • Wrong, there is a clause in the contract that says they can change the terms AT ANY TIME.

      • If they change the terms, you are allowed to leave without ETF, though. That’s a breach on their end.

        • DBK

          Because it’s part of contract, it is not a breach in any way.

  • Downey1971

    I think they will let everyone who is currently on a unlimited plane up grade and renew one time before they try and make us change. I think the will do this just because when we signed up with them, we were told that we could up grade every two years, now that is not the case. I maybe wrong. I really hope I am right. I have an up grade waiting now, but I want to wait for SG2 or Bionic, or hell even the D3

    • Ckoch0125

      You can upgrade every two years? That’s always been that way

      • You use to be able to upgrade after 1 year but pay more of the phone. $299 instead of $199, etc.

      • You use to be able to upgrade after 1 year but pay more of the phone. $299 instead of $199, etc.

  • Rizzidy

    There is nothing 100% clear about this.  Learn to read, DL editors.

    You have some good evidence, but nothing official and a lot built on inference.

  • Mr.Joe

    Hot damn!

    Now I can get my locked up tighter then a chastity belt DROID Bionic AND stay unlimited! 

    I’m happy =^)

  • GoodbyeMoto

    Ok, here is what I want to know once and for all:

    If I upgrade to a 4G capable phone after July 7th will I be grandfathered in or will it be considered a “new” plan? 

    I’ve waited this long for the Bionic (which I’m ditching for the SGII if it’s 4G) and I’m willing to wait a bit longer…but not if I’m going to lose my unlimited plan.

    Anyone? Bueller? 

  • Anonymous

    I don’t like those words “at this time”

    • Anonymous

      I think its hilarious. Invest billions in a high tech top of the line “4g” network, and then in an attempt to boost revenue, charge people more than they think is fair, causing a mass exodus of customers, and watch profits and revenues drop instead.

      • Anonymous

        It’s because they know the future of wireless telecommunications will be like the cable industry. People will just accept it and they know this.

        Welcome to the birth of the U.S wireless cartel. You have to stay educated and learn how to play their games as best as possible or not have a smartphone.

  • Litobirdy

    WHat is retarded is that this completely contradicts the other more official looking verizon documents that were posted earlier this week about feature phone to smartphone… THIS SUX

  • Jikhead

    What’s the word though, if going from a 3G smartphone to a 4G smartphone?  There has been no mention of this scenario as of yet.

  • Well I’m boned, I have an LG EVN touch which is not a smart phone. Heck a rep told me the other day I would be ok if I went unlimited now and waited to upgrade but he probably didn’t have this information sitting at his desk. Would love to have unlimited but I really don’t want any of the current 4G or 3G offerings. 

    • Anonymous

      buy a cheap smartphone off ebay or craigs to lock in unlimited data

      • I do see a palm pre for 25 bucks posted on craigslist… that should work right? 

        • Anonymous

          If I remember correctly the palm pre is considered a smartphone but you should 1) call verizon to confirm it  is and 2) make sure the esn is clean

          • So I should be able to verify with Verizon if the ESN is clean, if the seller gives it to me?
             

          • Abc

            If the seller does not want to give it to you, I would wonder why.

    • I am in the same boat. I have the Env Touch which I hate, but none of the phones are grabbing me. I should have upgraded when you could still do a one year contract so I wasn’t locked into a crappy phone for 2 years.

  • This is horseshit Verizon. You trick your current customers into
    believing that they will have unlimited data forever and stab your loyal
    followers in the back by “Eventually” switching us to tiered
    ridiculously high prices. This is definitely making me think to switch
    to Sprint!

  • This is horseshit Verizon. You trick your current customers into believing that they will have unlimited data forever and stab your loyal followers in the back by “Eventually” switching us to tiered ridiculously high prices. This is definitely making me think to switch to Sprint!

  • David

    I better be grandfathered in when the time comes…… or I’m goin to sprint. I use my phone for everything…. I hardly use my computer now

  • P!X3L

    Does anyone think “At this time” could mean “before the 7th”?

    • James_Ever

      YYep, and somethings gonna drop that day too, gut feeling as nothing is out or been released in what a month phone wise so they’re gonna have a device to show off this new craptastic plan. Plus still no mention of family plans yet that’s concrete.

  • W Gress

    I have a crappy phone and no data plan, and will be upgrading to a smart phone and data on july 2nd. The VZW employee i talked to today told me I wouldn’t have to pay one of the tiered prices, instead i would pay the $30/unlimited. Lets hope shes right…?

  • Who the heck has a dumb phone with unlimited data?

    • Litobirdy

      I do actually cause I got a massive promo on it. Dam I am waiitn for bionic, i dont want this screwjob to occur

      • What can you use the data for? The mobile web thingy?

    • blynkofaneye

      I do too, a Samsung Rogue that I’ve been dying to upgrade forever.  It’s got a horrible web browser and VZW’s e-mail app, but that’s about it.  Got my NE2 last month, and been waiting for the Droid3/SG2/Bionic to upgrade to.  Thought I’d be good, because I can currently upgrade to a 3G/4G smartphone without changing my plan, but I guess that won’t be the case.  Crap.

    • RayLancer

      I was looking at this option since I wanted to upgrade my basic phone but i was afraid I wouldn’t be grandfathered in. I was waiting for the Bionic or Galaxy S II since i don’t want an iphone 4 or Droid X2.

  • Mikey

    “For Now” This Is Where I Can Say I’m Pleased To Be That “Loyal Customer” The Reps Are Always Calling Me.

    • if they stab us “loyal customers” in the back, I sure hope all of the customers will have a massive boycott and definitely go to a different carrier where prices are much more affordable

      • Ckoch0125

        I will if they try and take away my unlimited data.

  • Anonymous

    basically the same situation as AT&T, but no grandfathering loophole such as the original iPhone. That REALLY sucks.

  • Anonymous

    Kellex, you’ve been doing a great job keeping us up to date, thanks.    

    In case anyone cares, here’s my rant on the matter.  
    http://www.techranter.com/?p=3191

  • Sarrants

    What about Family Plan where one has a Droid and another has just a basic phone? If we upgrade the basic phone to an android phone, what happens? Do we have to have sep. plans? Family plan for voice and text, but sep. Data plans?

  • Sarrants

    What about Family Plan where one has a Droid and another has just a basic phone? If we upgrade the basic phone to an android phone, what happens? Do we have to have sep. plans? Family plan for voice and text, but sep. Data plans?

    • Anonymous

      Yes you will both need a seperate data plan

    • Anonymous

      Yes you will both need a seperate data plan

  • letsmotor

    it’s my understanding that with a current 3g phone after tier plans i’ll still be on my unlimited data BUT if i upgrade to a 4g phone, say this fall, i’ll be forced to go with a tiered plan….so has any survey been done with your readers to see how many are  switching to 4g phones before the tier goes into effect to lock in their unlimited? (or should i say the lock in”at this time)????

  • letsmotor

    it’s my understanding that with a current 3g phone after tier plans i’ll still be on my unlimited data BUT if i upgrade to a 4g phone, say this fall, i’ll be forced to go with a tiered plan….so has any survey been done with your readers to see how many are  switching to 4g phones before the tier goes into effect to lock in their unlimited? (or should i say the lock in”at this time)????

    • letsmotor

      …a CS at vzw today told me that upgrading to 4g after tier enforced would knock you out of unlimited plan (i know take with grain of salt)

      • Anonymous

         The verizon document said unlimited data is data whether it is 3g or 4g. According to the other document if you currently have a unlimited 3g data and  upgrade to a 4g phone after 7/7 then you still get to keep unlimited data.

        • Anonymous

          This is how I read it as well. It would be nice if they explicitly said this in writing however.

    • Anonymous

      I to would like some clarification on upgrading an existing 3G phone to a new 4G phone. Does the grandfather unlimited data rate still apply?

  • Rick

    I would like to know what are their plans for Family smartphone data plan.

    • Justin

      They won’t have family smartphone data plans.  Its not profitable to create a plan to provision all phones on a family plan for data usage. 

  • Drnick124

    Well crap, this sucks. I’m on a “featured” phone and want to wait for one of the phones coming out later AND have the unlimited data…

    • Anonymous

      Just buy a cheap smartphone off eBay like a pixi and get the unlimited smartphone plan. Then upgrade to the Bionic when it comes out.

  • this is wack… lol  im going to flash an iphone to work on Cricket and get unlimited everything for $60 a month lol

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  • Anonymous

    My 5 lines have been with Verizon for many years. In the past I would never have considered leaving for Sprint or another company. However if I become affected by Verizons changes I will move all my lines to Sprint as long as they don’t also make these changes. 

    It would make sense for Sprint to maintain their pricing to begin taking all the Verizon customers that will start getting screwed. Honestly Sprint has some better phones than Verizon anyway.

    It’s too bad, I think Verizon is starting to drop the ball in the quest of ever increasing profits.

    • I called this morning for another issue I had with my tbolt and asked about my other 4 phones that are 3g devices and upgrade with the grandfathered unlimited plans.  She said I can’t verify anything right now.  We have no information here what they are doing.

      I canceled all of my service on the spot.  I don’t care anymore.  I refuse to reward companies for shady CS.   If they had be honest I might be convinced with some sweet talk, but the lying through the teeth stuff is the only thing I can’t look past.  THEY KNOW what they are planning, they just don’t want US to know.

      • Anonymous

        Actually most reps dont know they arent lying they just really have no clue but you already cancelled so doesnt matter now.

      • Mark

        Dude your ridiculous. Why stress yourself out over something like this before you actually get screwed. Did you ever stop and consider that Verizon is a huge company and they keep things internally secret only to their higher ups? The truth is, unfortunately, that people who pay attention to these sites and blogs know more than 50% of their employees. So I’ll go ahead an guarantee that the 1 CS rep you spoke with (out of thousands) was not fabricating when she told you she could not verify anything. And on top of this, I’m sure she wasn’t willing to risk her job and give you information that hasn’t even been made public yet. You are the type of customer that every CS rep DREADS dealing with. Good luck with your next carriers awesome “4G” network and amazing customer service.

        • Granted

          No he made the right choice and I applaud him for it! The only way greedy companies like Verizon are going to start listening to their customers dissatisfaction over their current changes are when their customers start speaking with their wallets like this smart individual did. I wonder if you even pay your own phone bill or maybe a parent does for you.

          But i can totally understand why he would switch at the drop of a hat! Having 5 phone bills and giving Verizon an astronomical amount of money all this time and then seeing them being deceptive and most likely charging each of his lines with tiered data plans, well that would be an immense amount of money and shit to put up with. And it’s just a slap in the face to the people that pay Verizon’s paychecks.

          And i don’t for a second believe this was one instance of a Verizon lying to a customer! I’ve experienced this on three separate occasions! The first being some moron at my local store telling me that the new Droid X I was buying “of course it has a front facing camera, it’s right up here behind the black bar at the top (referring to the sensor)” and he also told me the original Droid had one as well. And I’m sorry I can’t chalk that up to a single employee’s stupidity.

          And of course the most recent act of Verizon deception for me was the technical support rep that I dealt with on the phone, after my gingerbread update crippled my Droid X. After she have me above, I had her do a trouble ticket to have my service checked at my house, seeing as how I live in the city and pretty much just get one bar of signal strength and two if I’m lucky. So they send people out here and do the test, then they call and leave me a message saying they have a resolution for my trouble ticket. And keep in mind the first girl I talked to said, if we find you to have poor service in your area, you’ll be eligible for a network extender for free, no cost to you whatsoever. I of course took down her name and even refereed to her manager, who assured me this was the case and I would receive a free network extender if my service was bad. So I call back and get some other complete charlatan jackass on the phone and up ask what my resolution is. He says “we found your area to have very poor service” and I say oh well that is what I knew would be the case, so I get my free network extender now right? And he goes on to tell me how they dont give away free network extenders even if you have really bad service. But he says he can offer me one for two hundred dollars or he can let me out of my contract early with no penalties. So I was blown away and said “so my only two options are to pay you 200 bucks more because you give me bad service, or you dont want me as a customer anymore?”. Then he just got real quiet and had nothing to say. And I of course told him how the first person who made the trouble ticket told me I could get a free extender, but he said no they can’t do that, but he would email her asking her if she wants to speak to me about this.

          Of course I haven’t heard a damn thing from anybody since, because of course Verizon doesn’t give a shit about their customers. So yeah I totally understand why he would drop his service with this greedy company right away. And if I didn’t have so many friends and family that I would have to convince to move to a different carrier, I already would have dropped this crap company. But that if the reason Verizon makes it so cheap and easy and tempting to give you free calls with friends and family and get you to open family accounts so easily, because they know when they screw you over as a customer and they’ve looped you into all if this, it’s that much harder to switch carriers. It’s all about the money and nothing else for Verizon and many other companies, there are no ethics, scruples or integrity in a company like this.

  • Anonymous

    That’s fine…I’ll stay on vzw for 2 yrs once i get the bionic or sgs2 then when its time to renew i’ll see if this is what i want them or not… i’ll open a unlimited data account on sprint in a yr and wait for them to launch lte then i’ll switch my services if they allow me unlimited data or at least 5 gigs for less than verizon does. i’m good for the next 2 yrs

  • i do not mind all the tiered data posts, keep em coming! i want to be informed as best as i can! thx!

    • Anonymous

      I couldn’t agree more!

    • Anonymous

      Good to read so good and positive feedback 😉

    • I appreciate all the tiered data posts as well.

      My OG Droid screen is dead so I had to upgrade just today (wanted to hold out for Bionic).  I went ahead and replaced my wife’s Incredible today as well.  We both have T-Bolts now.  When the Bionic or GSII is released I’m planning on getting one of those (not sure which yet) and giving my T-Bolt to my daughter.  She already has an entry level Android phone, but I know she’d love a T-Bolt.

      • Guest

        Verizon making strategic decisions on screwing customers into giving them more money?  BLASPHEMY! 

      • Anonymous

        I went in and asked the guy at my local Verizon store the same question. He explicitly told me that I’m fine as long as I don’t change my plan after they move to tiered data. And if that changes I’ll just be switching carriers.

        • I emailed Verizon asking about adding the Unlimited Data plan to my feature phone and then keeping it when I upgrade to a smartphone down the line and this was their response…. he makes it seem like you can keep the unlimited data but he did leave it a little open ended.

          My name is Larry and I am happy to answer your question about
          adding the Unlimited data package to your current phone. As long as your
          phone is compatible with Get it Now/Media Center and Mobile Web, you
          are able to add a data plan. Once you switch to a Smartphone, the data
          plan will auto attach or you will be required to choose a plan.

  • If it said Limited time i’d be more worried. But that doesn’t scare me to much right now.

  • skaguyy

    I bought a thunderbolt when I heard tiered pricing was starting the 7th

    then I found out that the unlimited plans will be carried over, so today I am returning it

    now I find out that there’s a chance they are gonna screw me harder…

    Damn it verizon…I really am trying to stay with you guys, but you are making this way too difficult

  • skaguyy

    I bought a thunderbolt when I heard tiered pricing was starting the 7th

    then I found out that the unlimited plans will be carried over, so today I am returning it

    now I find out that there’s a chance they are gonna screw me harder…

    Damn it verizon…I really am trying to stay with you guys, but you are making this way too difficult

    • Anonymous

      Screw you harder how, with the $35 restocking fee?

      • skaguyy

        the ‘at this time’ is where I am aiming this toward

        I don’t like the feeling of not knowing whether or not I will be grandfathered in when I decide I want to switch to a 4G phone

        That is why I can’t figure out if I want to keep the thunderbolt, seeing as I bought it so I would be guaranteed the unlimited for at least 2 years, though I am not liking the phone at all

        • what aren’t you liking about the phone?  i just got mine today and i love it.  i haven’t been able to do any actual work because i’ve been playing with the phone all day

          • skaguyy

            I shouldn’t have said I don’t like it. What I mean is that I was hoping to wait for something better like the GS2 or Bionic (or maybe wait longer if I don’t like them)

            I hate the battery life more than anything…I keep mine plugged in at work, plugged in in the car, and then when I get home I have to plug it in within 3 hours or so

            And yes, I turned off LTE…I just can’t get more than 3-4 hours on this thing…my X still hits about 12 with the same amount of use

            Other than that…I love the phone…ffc, speed, gorgeous screen, and hell, even sense

          • one of the first things i did was install launcher pro so i can’t speak to sense.  i should have tried it but i’m so used to launcher pro.

            i’m sure i’ll hate battery life too as i’m used to getting 2 days on my og droid even with heavy use.

          • skaguyy

            Yeah I put LP on there too…I like sense, but hate that their widgets are freaking huge.

          • Wow, 2 days with heavy use.  I’m lucky to get 5-6 hours on my OG with heavy use and that is with a brand new battery.

          • Two days on OG Droid “with heavy use” ? Teach me please. I get a full work day of podcasting, but if the screen is on, it’s more like 3 hours.

        • Anonymous

          then take it back? Not that difficult. Or sell it and pay full retail when something else comes out. Just saying

          • skaguyy

            What I’m saying is if I bring it back and they switch to not allowing 3g to come to 4g unlimited, I am kicked out of unlimited…I wasn’t asking for advice or anything, I know my options…it is just difficult to decide

      • skaguyy

        Also, I bought mine at best buy…love that they got rid of their restocking fee finally (plus they price matched costco’s price of $179 for the thunderbolt)

      • skaguyy

        Also, I bought mine at best buy…love that they got rid of their restocking fee finally (plus they price matched costco’s price of $179 for the thunderbolt)

    • Anonymous

      How are they making it difficult?

    • Anonymous

      How are they making it difficult?

      • skaguyy

        This whole tiered pricing nonsense…not knowing what to expect in the future, whether or not the unlimited will stay for more than ‘at this time’

        If I switch back to my droid x, going back to 3g, then they decide to get rid of the whole ‘3g and 4g are the same’ stance they have ‘at this time,’ then I get screwed over by having to switch to a tiered 4g plan

        basically, I went with thunderbolt to get past that limitation, but now not sure if I should keep it

  • Anonymous

    So what they are saying is, “once sprint switches to tiered data, we will no longer honor grandfathered customers’ previous unlmited plans”.  Assholes!

  • Anonymous

    So what they are saying is, “once sprint switches to tiered data, we will no longer honor grandfathered customers’ previous unlmited plans”.  Assholes!

    • Anonymous

      That’s exactly what I was thinking.

  • dknyc

    What happens if you are on the blackberry enterprise data package that costs more? If you switch to a regular smartphone do you get to go to the 30 unlimited or do you still pay 45?

  • My first impression is not to like the idea of eventually being thrust into 2gigs of data, but honestly I don’t think I’m that scared of it.  

    Looking at my account right now, it’s showing that I’ve only used 160mb so far and my usage cycle is on 9 of 30 days.  Multiplying that by 3 and I’m still well under 1gig for the 30 day cycle.  I don’t really see myself going crazy and doubling my data use for some psychotic reason.  So I don’t know what kind of foolish things you guys are doing with your phones, but I would’nt qualify myself as a light user, and I’m going to come in well under 2gigs.

    I’m running the stock browser, but most of the sites I go to are mobile sites.  I check out some youtube every once in a while, tether to my laptop sparingly, and hook it up to my wifi while I’m at my house, and wifi whenever I can.  

    • Wow. I’m on day 17 and I’m 3.1GB.  I can’t imagine using less than 2GB in a month.

      • tjmonkey15

        Do you watch a lot of videos (Netflix, Youtube, etc)?  I think those of us that don’t watch many will probably have no problem staying under the 2GB limit for the most part.

        • I don’t have Netflix, and I def check out some youtube from time to time, and watch a little streaming video from the browser (ESPN, news websites, etc).  One thing, I took Flash off the phone.  I found that if there’s a video I want to watch, rather than using Flash from the browser (which poor OG Droid doesn’t handle that well in the first place) without Flash the link will take you to your YouTube app version of the video, which runs far better, and might be using less data??  I don’t know, but I haven’t missed Flash much.  

    • Ckoch0125

      Yeah but paying tthe same for less doesn’t make sense. If 2gb was like 25 or something then i wouldn’t complain as much but forcing me to pay the same for 2gb as I am for unlimited is crap

  • At this time…meaning they’ll do almost anything to try and force you into the tiered plans. “Oh you’re getting a new 4G smartphone…let me show you our new and improved plans for smartphones”

  • Anonymous

    Why does my bookmark always take me to the desktop site even though I bookmark the mobile version?

    • Jim Dandy

      Scroll to the very bottom of the page.

  • tjmonkey15

    No need to apologize; keep the information coming!  And thanks! 

  • FortitudineVincimus

    ““at this time.”

    oh jeez. a whole story based on that? of course they have to use nebulous wording like this. man, slow news day? crap like this just leads to people freaking out.

    • DBK

      Trololololol

  • Anonymous

    I hope the grace period for keeping your unlimited data last at least in time for the release of the Bionic and SGS2.  I’m afraid Verizon will pull out the rug from under us once they finally start releasing the phones everyone wants.

    • They’ll say with the release of these new and exciting smartphones it benefits our customers to offer solutions for their data needs or some BS excuse like that.

  • The thing I really don’t want to lose is my wife’s $15/mo, 150MB smartphone data plan.  She just doesn’t use that much wireless data.  Even I have never used more than 1GB a month, but I will of course keep my unlimited plan as long as possible (I’ll probably upgrade in March, to the Droid 4 with 4G and a 1280×720 4″ screen).

    • Anonymous

      Yea, I had that for my gurlz phone too, but ended up upgrading her to the D2, so lost that 15$ data plan but im still ok with having two lines at $30./unlimited.

    • Anonymous

      Yea, I had that for my gurlz phone too, but ended up upgrading her to the D2, so lost that 15$ data plan but im still ok with having two lines at $30./unlimited.

  • Mcoombs

    Any idea if we need to switch to tiered if we go from a 3g smartphone to a 4g smart phone?

    • Anonymous

      thats exactly what i am wondering…

      • Anonymous

        Right now 3g is the same as 4g

      • Rob1035

        I’d love to know as well…

  • oh verizon…i say you dun goofed with this new data mumbogumbo…..should have just stuck with the old data plans ,they were amazing and what made you better then everyone else (other then your amazing service and coverage)

  • Can anyone really say they are surprised by VZW’s initial grace period?

  • First!

    • Anonymous

      to put a wiener in your mouth

      • don’t be jealous

        • Ckoch0125

          I doubt he is jealous.smh