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T-Mobile Takes Shot at Verizon Over 4G LTE Network Down Time

Pretty funny of T-Mobile, right?  Take shots at a company who just experienced more than 24 hours of down time on their brand new 4G LTE network.  Hey, I’d do the same too if I were a competing carrier.  The only thing is, T-Mobile doesn’t even have a 4G network.  That’s right, I’m pulling out the “Fake 4G” card, because when it comes to trash talking, you have to at least have something legit behind your stance…and they don’t.  And while Verizon’s outage was one of the most preposterous things I’ve ever seen from a company this large in a long time (and we are still owed an explanation), I’m just going to shake my head at T-Mo and ask that they keep trying.  Or better yet, why don’t you go sell your soul.  Oh, that’s right, you did…to AT&T.

Via:  Phandroid, Twitter

  • Windexh8er

    I thought this was an Android site? Apparently its for Verizon phanboiz.

    • Anonymous

      Normally I’d just ignore this sort of comment but I have to agree, sort of. In all of the months I’ve frequented this site, I don’t think I have ever come across such a highly subjective post like this…

      • Winning

        Exactly, thank you people its android be more open android is not carrier specific its one open source software so since probably most of us have android devices we should at least get along like we shouldn’t categorize android devices by carrier android is one software tht is.running on multiple carriers but is still the same software so dont be so carrier specific make this site about androud not just about verizon thats the beauty of android it is not locked onto one thing.

  • Anonymous

    The reality is, NO ONE has true 4G yet…

  • Anonymous

    Ouch, T-mobile just got burned!

  • Anonymous

    OWNED BY DROID-LIFE! :D

  • Anonymous

    I find allegiance to carriers rather strange…

    • Anonymous

      It probably pays the bills? (not just the phone bills)

  • Eric

    Yeah….LTE is great. Just look at the great battery life on the Thunderbolt and the nice thin lines of it and the Charge. Is there a physical keyboard hiding in there somewhere? The funniest thing is the need to have a on and off switch for it. Hey…..that could be one more thing Verizon could charge you for.

    • Joshfriedman86

      Name one carrier that doesn’t charge for additional services, you CAN’T. Your comment just reveals that you are/were a customer of Verizon that can not manage your own finances and just wants everything for free (incidentally the same type of consumer that is causing T-Mobile to lose so much money). You would be the type of person that the android developer community would hate because you would much rather give an excuse for the carriers and manufacturers to lock their bootloaders instead of pay to have internet for another device besides your phone (illegal tethering).

      • smfh

        T-Mobile’s 4G is free…… U JELLY

      • smfh

        T-Mobile’s 4G is free…… U JELLY

        • Joshfriedman86

          so is verizon’s. before 4g lte, unlimited 3g data = $30. after 4g lte, unlimited 3g/4g = $30.

          • Winning

            Then why are you saying there is no carrier tht doesnt make you pay extra for additional services 4g is an additional service and verizon could have easily charged yo ass extra if they wanted to so just shutup before you make these underminded statements.

          • Joshfriedman86

            unlimited data is not an additional service, it is mandatory…or do you need a thesaurus to understand that mandatory is an antonym to additional?

          • smfh

            i never said unlimited data did i dipshit read better please i said 4g is an additional service for some carriers.

          • Joshfriedman86

            if you read your own post you would realize that you said 4g was an additional service offered by verizon…

          • smfh

            I specifically said that verizon could have easily charged your ass extra because you keep complaining you’re lucky verizon doesnt charge extra.

      • Zeadaplaya

        looks like its his time of the month xD sooo your saying if you cant afford verizons overcharged bills you dont spend your money wisely? what if you have a family of 6 and can barely get by with your dad working 2 jobs and your mom working 1 (with a severe back disorder)? seriously these “higher class” people need to watch what they say.

        • Joshfriedman86

          I am clearly arguing against the absurd idea that carriers shouldn’t charge for extra services and the consequences of users trying to shirk responsibility. using the term “overcharged” is meaningless because that is what the marketplace has chosen for these services, like it or not. if you can’t afford a smartphone, don’t get one. and if you do, make sure you use that 30 dollars extra per month to help you save money or even make more. every decision needs to be scrutinized so you can spend your money in the most efficient way possible; we all have to work hard to stretch our dollars. owning a smartphone is a privilege, not a right.

  • jason w.s.

    BUUUURRRNNN!!!!! Wow! Pretty ballsy of em’ i think, but still a huge burn nonetheless.

  • CaptainHowdy

    Both are technically not 4G… Thought Verizon is closer.

  • Anonymous

    I just saw this, wow LMAO T – WHO?? Verizon probably and I’d say it’s a safe bet to say that Verizon tripled T-Who’s numbers once they cam bcak up :P

    I would also shoot back at T-Who, about the Copy cat *phone commercials that they’re showing as well. No wonder T-Who is going down and pretty soon will vanish of the face of the earth :) Just sayin :P

    • smfh

      you shouldn’t be calling them T-Who T-Mobile is actually owned by a big company named DEUTSCHE TELEKOM

      • Keras

        And Verizon Wireless is joint company by conglomerates Verizon and Vodafone. Who even uses smfh? It looks so retarded and makes the poster look like a high schooler. LTE is the the tech and 4G network which will be upgraded to LTE-Adanced which IS the true UTMS 4G and is presumed global. The LTE-Advanced will just be a software update instead of a tech update, incorporating VZW’s already implemented LTE network. By that time and FCC’s unrealistic 4G standards, it would be considered 4.5G. Whoever uses a name that gives of the impression as a butthurt teenager shouldn’t be on the winter’s otherwise you’ll end up as the laughing stock for most of us. Please… Use an actual name than some jumbled up acronym; I feel as if I’m reading something off of Facebook…

        • smfh

          So what if im in high school ? Lol who gave you the right to tell me I cant use acronyms for my name dont be mad because im young and can take a damn joke unlike you.

        • smfh

          Umm okay you showed up a high school student, you’re cool. Last time I checked stocks cant laugh stocks either go up or down, I mean i’ve never seen googles stocks laugh.

        • smfh

          i never asked for all that detail alright if i was an english teacher i’d give you an F because you rambled on and on about 4g when i said nothing about you’re precious 4gLTE damn butthurt much. if you dont like what you read why bother paying attention to it, that just shows how butthurt you got.

      • Anonymous

        First this is the United Startes of Americal, and second, it doesn’t matter
        who owns them. The point is that T-Who is still pretty trerrible with their
        bad Apple copy cat commericals. T-Mobuile was listed on a report of
        companies that might not make it in 2012, maybe thats the reason for joining
        AT&T Just sayin :)

        • Smfh

          lol k. You do realize you do know the real name of T-Mobile you’re just to loyal to verizon to say it. Dont get me wrong verizon has great coverage but dont treat your carrier like your faith.

          • Anonymous

            To be honest with you, no carrier out there is worth the trouble. Verizon
            has great coverage and AT&T is close behind. One thing for sure is Verizon
            will nickel and dime you for just about anything, just like the other
            carriers. We pay to much for mobile service,

          • Smfh

            I couldn’t have said it any better(:

          • Anonymous

            I am hoping for a better showing of the Bionic, Maybe Moto will finally step
            up with something that will really wow us :P That maybe a wishful thinking
            LOL

          • smfh

            i know right. i just wish they took off motoblur it doesn’t show the full potential of the phone, oh well i’ll just root it.

    • smfh

      you shouldn’t be calling them T-Who T-Mobile is actually owned by a big company named DEUTSCHE TELEKOM

  • Lilcal70

    bad ass article..Verizon will fix their dilemma & out perform every other.network. in america with 4G LTE..no one can compete with em anymore they’re just too damn reliable,you hear me now? ha & all the best droid devices go to.vzw (: i am a proud vzw.customer & have been for 9 years now..i’m also proud owner of the droid x.& moto xoom..love android

    • Anonymous

      sans the atrix :/

    • Zeadaplaya

      correction. you love verizon wireless android phones. if you loved android as a whole you wouldnt be dissing the carrier that provides the best selection of said phones.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3F52SIGKZTAHNMDCDS64HCJY3I Janos

    “And while Verizon’s outage was one of the most preposterous things I’ve ever seen from a company this large in a long time”

    have u heard of a company called sony?

    • Anonymous

      Yeeeeeah, about Sony… Killin’ me Smalls!

    • Dodgesityballer

      If you switched the O and A in your name i would’ve had to kill you lol! (all jokes you need to watch things you say around these times).

      • Mark

        I have been with Verizon for approximately 7 years and tried At&t, Sprint, T-Mobil & a few of the ones that are now gone. I will say this out of all of them Verizon has had less dropped calls,& less missed texts. I don’t have internet so I can’t reply to that. However I will say the there customer service does suck. and if you owe them money they don’t warn you they just shut you off. As a business owner and someone who travels alot no one other then Verizon can provide me with what I need in a cell phone.

  • Hamholla

    after the all of the destruction and carnage that happend in alabama etc. I think it’s safe to say I could last a day without 4G…

  • Anonymous

    Oh thats funny!

  • http://www.twitter.com/dailydroidapp AndroFan

    The only thing is, T-Mobile doesn’t even have a 4G network. That’s right, I’m pulling out the “Fake 4G”

    Uhhh, neither does Verizon, smart guy.

    “In 2008, the ITU-R organization specified the IMT-Advanced (International Mobile Telecommunications Advanced) requirements for 4G standards, setting peak speed requirements for 4G service at 100 Mbit/s for high mobility communication (such as from trains and cars) and 1 Gbit/s for low mobility communication (such as pedestrians and stationary users).[1] Pre-4G technologies such as mobile WiMAX and Long term evolution (LTE) have been on the market since 2006[2] and 2009[3][4][5] respectively, and are often branded as 4G. The current versions of these technologies did not fulfill the original ITU-R requirements of data rates approximately up to 1 Gbit/s for 4G systems. ”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G

    • MOTOX

      Stop being dumb, everyone’s network is now considered 4g but at least verizon has the infastructure for 4g while tmo has none.

      • http://www.twitter.com/dailydroidapp AndroFan

        Did you even read my comment, or did you just reply blindly…because it sure seems like the latter.

        • Calculatorwatch

          We get it. Everyone advertises 4G but no one has it. The difference then is that Verizon is using the pre-4G technology and T-mobile’s is really just super-3G. So while Verizon still needs to upgrade to true 4G, T-mobile is nowhere close.

        • MOTOX

          No i read it.

    • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

      Speed test all I have to say

  • Watson111505

    TMobile,,You just made a complete Ass out of yourselves,,Oh yah Kinda Like your Shitty Ass Network.

    • Jboogie1289

      + 100!!!!!!

  • d-roids

    i seem to recall that not too long ago, t-mobile had their own outage and that went on for a while. besides isn’t t-mobile getting bought out by a company that invented the term “dropped call”

  • Mr. Joe

    I for one didn’t even experience a loss.

    OH and if you REALLY want to hit Tmobile hard talk about how they didn’t even start 3G deployment till like 2008 or 2009!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/joe-carnesecchi/196600056 joe carnesecchi

    3g>4g because it works

  • Madcow06

    Please god let people stop using the word FAIL.

    • Anonymous

      prayer fail ;-)

      • http://twitter.com/NovembersDirge The Observer

        I see what you did there. Well played, sir.

  • http://twitter.com/Dirtball_Rotten Dirtball Rotten

    i have to admit i LOL’ed when i saw this.. Good on T-Moble

  • http://twitter.com/jdrch Judah Richardson

    T-Mo’d better hope to God they don’t have as much as 1h outage after this. We’ll be going IN on them.

  • pezjono

    Not as bad as Sony and their PSN downtime/data stolen. Going on 2 weeks down and 77+ million account info stolen. And that may or may not include credit card info too…

  • pezjono

    Not as bad as Sony and their PSN downtime/data stolen. Going on 2 weeks down and 77+ million account info stolen. And that may or may not include credit card info too…

    • Cwpit81

      Yup ! Sigh…….. still waiting …..

    • Mr. Joe

      HEY remember when XBL was down for like a whole month?

      • pezjono

        XBL was never down for a month! It was down for like a solid 48 hours with some instability for up to a week two years ago right at Christmas time. They couldn’t handle the traffic. They got it fixed, gave out a free game, and it has never happened again. And that is NOTHING compared to a data breach of your entire database of users.

        http://www.gamespot.com/news/6184292.html

        • Anonymous

          Sony already said that nobody got into the info.

          Research bro.

          • pezjono

            Damn, I should have known my well thought out message with outside sources would act as troll feed…

            You win sir… you win…

          • Anonymous

            People are trying to sell a database that has 2.2 million CCs with the CVVs included. They got some serious info from the breach.

          • Mr. Joe

            Sure you aren’t thinking of Epsilon?

        • Mr. Joe

          so I can I compare it to the Epsilon crack then?

      • knowstechhistorybetterthanyou

        Nope, and neither do you.

        • Anonymous

          It was down for 15+ days in 2007.

          XBOX Live SUCKS

          • pezjono

            Damn, I should have known my well thought out message with outside sources would act as troll feed…

            You win sir… you win…

          • Blootzm3

            Xbox was never down for more than a week…. I know Ive been a member since it started.

          • yodog

            same here.people are just dumb these days

  • Anonymous

    T-mobile doesn’t have any say in their take over, its the people who own t-mobile somewhere in Germany i think

  • Anonymous

    T-mobile doesn’t have any say in their take over, its the people who own t-mobile somewhere in Germany i think

  • angermeans

    This is the reason you are my favorite writer, Kellex and droid-life is the best tech blog in the net.

    • Mr. Joe

      No.

      Kellex is an apple fan in android clothing.

      AKA Kellex is a hypocrite.

      • Calculatorwatch

        ???

  • Dsalaza1

    Are you serious? Verizon owes YOU (or any of us) an explaination? It was a nationwide outage. Obviously something serious happened. It may have taken over 24 hours, but the service is back up and running. This is the telecommunications industry. Outages happen. At least they were quick to identify the issue and get it resolved. If your that upset, call and get your credit for the outage. They will be quick to give you the $1 or so for your inconvenience.

    • Anonymous

      Besides, Verizon 3G for a day isn’t that bad. Almost all Verizon customers use that anyway.

  • Jorge_22f

    T-Mobile is making fun of their network falling not speeds, kellex you really sound like a fan boy to be honest, its true verizon’s lte network is faster than t-Mobile’s hspa+ network but can any one really tell the difference while using their phones besides speed tests? Web browsing looks the same, Apps perform the same, streaming hd feels the same without buffering, true lte will load it faster but it doesn’t make a difference as long as you don’t have to buffer, downloading files? Both networks have faster speeds than most servers you download files from so you are being limited by the server not the network, so what advantage does lte have over hspa+ other than being faster in speed tests which have no real use?

    • nerdkill

      duhhhh jorge, it is a night and day difference. Go pick up a thunderbolt and you’ll never go back to 3g or feaux g (thanks andrew webber)

      • Jboogie1289

        Booyaaahhhh baby!!!!

    • Anonymous

      Try downloading large files or tethering. You’ll see.

  • Immolate

    Dead carrier talking.

  • Eric

    I understand the point here but nobody NOBODY has true 4g. Not even Verizon.

    • Mr. Joe

      Tmobile does.

      • Anonymous

        lol did u miss the whole point of this post or are just just being a smartass

      • Tyvallely

        NO THEY DON’T. There “4G” has download speeds of VZW’s 3G.

        • http://twitter.com/richie681 Eric Richardson

          Where 4G? Here 4G? Ooooh… Their… Gotcha.

      • Tyvallely

        NO THEY DON’T. There “4G” has download speeds of VZW’s 3G.

    • Anonymous

      Under the amended specification, Sprint and Verizon have 4G (the original 4G spec is now 5G).

      • Eric

        That’s just cuz verizn and sprint shoved a sh*tload of money under their nose so they can say 4g now.

        • lino1031

          Actually, it was because of AT&T and T-Mobile advertising their crap 3g networks as 4g, hence the amendment. And technically all carriers now have 4g due to that, although AT&T and T-Mobile didn’t actually upgrade their networks to the next gen (which is LTE from HSPA). Also, sprint had a similar outage last year when some genius at Clearwire snapped the wrong wires.

  • Steinb

    Wow someone got pretty butt hurt by a funny tweet.. Do you own stock in Big Red or something?? You don’t owe Verizon any defending.. they owe you an explanation, Kellex.

    -Current Verizon Customer

    • Mr. Joe

      I hold share so I will defend!

  • Darren B

    Lol… let’s not forget a little over a year ago when their entire network was down for a while. Nice one, T mobile.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah. And didn’t a bunch of their users lose all their data?

      • Anonymous

        That was actually not their network, it was the cloud they were using for the Sidekicks, which was actually run by Microsoft. Still huge fail, but it was MSFT’s fail.

  • Anonymous

    T-mobile does have the greatest Android device line up. They offer 3 tablets, dual core phone, and stock UI. Sure their network only allows 6-7MB typical but they do know android.

    When will big red get some devices to compete with the level of T-Mo’s devices. Great network for sure; that’s why I use them. But you have to admit the device selection is a bit dry.

    • Tundaboat

      Well, considering that they(Big Red) saved the good devices for 4GLTE, I’d say it’s smarter than releasing all your good phones for a network that will soon enough become obsolete. I just find this whole thing funny, talking about a 4G that they for one don’t have and second the fact that they are attacking a company that DIDN’T get bought out by another. sad deals.

      • Anonymous

        yea I guess…but if the sale is approved it is over a year before it makes any impact on the consumer. a year is a long time in this mobile market. i am hoping for an all IP based network by end of 2013. then they will need to compete on a different level.

      • Zeadaplaya

        You fool verizon isn’t true 4g either :P

        • Mr. Joe

          LTE is 4G. LTE advance anyways, which is LTE. Therefore as Verizons current network evolves it will be 4G. HSPA+ on the other hand won’t evolve into 4G.

          It’s like with 3G. When it first came out it barely was any better then 2G, but as it evolved it got better.

          God <3 Evolution!

        • Tundaboat

          I didn’t mean 4G, but at least Verizons 3G is closer to 4G than T-Mobile’s 3G will ever be considered TRUE 3G… haha, oops… didn’t mean to diss your 3G like that ^_^

        • Tundaboat

          TRUE 4G************

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=710530141 Tyler Buchanan

        Uhmmm except Verizon refuses to support a Nexus One/S so you fail. T-Mobile=best selection of phones until Verizon gets a Nexus.

        • MikeB

          This comment is a fail. I’ll stick with my Droid line over a Nexus phone any day.

          • Tyler Buchanan

            …… why? for a friggin name? We spend all this time complaining about how carriers lock down our phones, and manufacturers never give us updates in a timely manner, and you think the name “Droid” is more important than any of them? Yet, if they called it the Nexus Droid, you’d be all over it? Its people like you that are worse than fanbois, at least fanbois don’t make me look bad.

    • Jim Dandy

      Before the android explosion Big Red’s lineup was way better than T-Mo’s. Quite ironic. Hopefully Vzn will drop the phone we’re all looking for.

    • Joshfriedman86

      Pretty sure device line-up is not a big draw for most consumers…that and most consumers buy one phone, so being with a company just because they have a great line-up of devices is just silly; and I love my Droid X, no matter if it’s not the latest and greatest hardware-wise. Comparing devices to network is like comparing apples to oranges. Let’s stay on topic :(

  • gmr4life

    Verizon doesn’t have a true 4g network either. No carrier does this write should’ve known that. 4g is 100 mbs

    • http://profiles.google.com/djnapieralski DJ Napieralski

      Lte is capable of that speeds, Rogers in Canada is introducing 150 Mbps lte so it is possible.

    • angermeans

      Verizon is still much closer to an actual 4G than tmo, att, and even sprint. 4G stands for 4th generation and isn’t LTE (a brand new network) a “next Gen” technology. Even tho the fcc set a standard for actual 4g doesn’t change the fact that verizon actually has a next Gen network that runs circles around the competition. Att and tmo have an upgraded hspa market that they want to call 4G. This argument makes no sense. Verizon has every right in the world to call their LTE network 4G as it is on the ground level now and with enhancements over the next couple years will easily reach 100 like oyu said and theoretically more. In comparison tmo is maxing hspa and will never reach these speeds.

      • Mr. Joe

        You should be lead writer for Droid Life!

      • http://www.twitter.com/dailydroidapp AndroFan

        It’s a standard, with a set definition and lower end limit requirements, which is not reached by Verizon’s LTE network. Plain and simple:

        “In telecommunications, 4G is the fourth generation of cellular wireless standards. It is a successor to the 3G and 2G families of standards. In 2008, the ITU-R organization specified the IMT-Advanced (International Mobile Telecommunications Advanced) requirements for 4G standards, setting peak speed requirements for 4G service at 100 Mbit/s for high mobility communication (such as from trains and cars) and 1 Gbit/s for low mobility communication (such as pedestrians and stationary users).[1]

        Pre-4G technologies such as mobile WiMAX and Long term evolution (LTE) have been on the market since 2006[2] and 2009[3][4][5] respectively, and are often branded as 4G. The current versions of these technologies did not fulfill the original ITU-R requirements of data rates approximately up to 1 Gbit/s for 4G systems.”

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G

        • Anonymous

          Way to cherry pick from Wikipedia.. The very next paragraph:

          “IMT-Advanced compliant versions of the above two standards are under development and called “LTE Advanced” and “WirelessMAN-Advanced” respectively. ITU has decided that “LTE Advanced” and “WirelessMAN-Advanced” should be accorded the official designation of IMT-Advanced. On December 6, 2010, ITU announced that current versions of LTE, WiMax and other evolved 3G technologies that do not fulfill “IMT-Advanced” requirements could be considered “4G”, provided they represent forerunners to IMT-Advanced and “a substantial level of improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed.””

  • Gee

    Like Teen-mobile has a leg to stand on aren’t they about to be absorbed by At&t, they need to shut-up and die quiet :)

    • Mr. Joe

      LOL, the owners of Tmobile want them absorbed. They don’t care who just as long as they get gobbled up.

  • Anonymous

    4G is 4G to me. as long as its faster than 3G then what does it matter? but that was a good shot from T-Mobile, i love when networks go at it

  • http://www.adamalter.com/ Adam Alter

    I’m happy with VZ, but you can’t deny it was a screw up which they deserve criticism for. Besides, the more beat up they get over it, the more they will work to never let it happen again. No reason to go all fanboi and attack T-Mobile back who everyone knows has plenty of issues already.

    • Calculatorwatch

      Definitely agree they’re too easy of a target, and I don’t blame them for criticizing. But you gotta admit it’s kinda like a midget talking trash to Arnold Schwarzenegger. It’s just funny is all.

  • The Dave

    Take advantage of a larger opponent you know wont strike back. War 101.

    Verizon wont respond to this, so why not do it?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000776861512 Tom Burke

    I love T-mo’s stance on custom roms though, fake 4G or not

  • Andrew Hewitt

    I’m on verizon and I hate t-mobile but I’ve got to admit, that’s pretty damn funny.

    • angermeans

      It is way funny. I really wish att wasnr gobling up tmo as they did a lot for lower prices in the us. I will miss them.

  • Vict

    Verizon don’t stay quiet , stupid T-mobile with their fake “4G”. Additionally T-mobile when verizon 4G is active(NOW) it can download the double of app, music, ebook,videos,photos that you can download in a day or two with your stupid 4G, this sould be a reply from verizon to T-mobile’s Twitter.

    • LinuxLover

      @TmobileWireless While your 4G was still up and running, we downloaded 3 times as much content on ours.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Forte/542650247 Michael Forte

    Wow T-Mobile has some balls calling Verizon out like that.

    • http://profiles.google.com/djnapieralski DJ Napieralski

      Having more balls then brains may not be the best thing though.

  • Anonymous

    And Verizon did that in 1 hour after their network came back up.

    • Noble Four

      ^^This

    • Someguywholiketacos

      I really wish I could “like” this 100 times.

    • Mr. Joe

      OMG 100+ likes!

      I wanna have your babies!

    • sdfjnasg

      Will the real 4G please stand up!!!

    • tjhrulz

      This comment has just now surpassed all of my likes combined, Kellen we need more news.

    • Anonymous

      Got em

    • RFGOD

      its funny because lte is faster than hsp-oh wait, its not. :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/jeffandrews82 Jeff Andrews

    That outage (might have) screwed my 4G on CM7! I was able to get 4G before the outage, but not after. Love CM, though.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jeffandrews82 Jeff Andrews

    That outage (might have) screwed my 4G on CM7! I was able to get 4G before the outage, but not after. Love CM, though.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jeffandrews82 Jeff Andrews

    That outage (might have) screwed my 4G on CM7! I was able to get 4G before the outage, but not after. Love CM, though.

    • Billy

      Its not bc of the outage. Its CM I had it after the outage and now I don’t.

    • Afallucco

      It is because of the outage. There is a failsafe verizon built into the system that resets the 4G network within the phone but since you’re rooted and not running a completely stock verizon build you have to reflash CM7 to refresh the system.

    • Afallucco

      It is because of the outage. There is a failsafe verizon built into the system that resets the 4G network within the phone but since you’re rooted and not running a completely stock verizon build you have to reflash CM7 to refresh the system.

  • http://twitter.com/wynalazca Andrew Webber

    I completely agree with you. They should rename it ‘feauxG’ instead. Same for AT&T.

    • http://twitter.com/Crispityyy Chris Spells

      LMAO you sir, are a genious

    • Anonymous

      That’s some funny stuff right there.

    • cookiees

      As much as I hate to say it… Verizon doesn’t have 4g either, no American carrier does.

      • http://twitter.com/praticuschaotic Jon Doe

        According to international standards, this is true. No one really has 4G as agreed upon by the international group that decides such things. Verizon is the fastest of the 3.5G services, though, and will be the most ready to transition from LTE to LTE+.

      • Jassa

        Totally agree! Dan Anderson & Andrew Webber you are DUMB! NO carrier in the U.S. has 4G. Do your research. BTW I use Verizon and have no qualms that it’s an has some very crappy business practices towards consumers. I don’t always have good coverage in my area, 3G service doesn’t allow simultaneous voice and data and by far has some of the most expensive plans of all 4 major carriers.

        • JDub

          You can have 3g voice and data if you have a Thunderbolt. Works great too.

        • Joshfriedman86

          You think not having simultaneous voice and data on 3G is a bad business practice towards consumers? CDMA was chosen for network stability/reliability and frankly, most people do not have a need to do simultaneous voice and data; especially when the EVDO network was being developed. People aren’t leaving Verizon in droves because you can’t do simultaneous voice and data. In fact, people go to Verizon because of the network and service. Besides, if you don’t have good service with Verizon, no one is forcing you to stay with Verizon; Go with the carrier that works best for you wherever you live or spend most of your time.

          • Jassa

            Yes Mr. Joshfriedman86. I left AT&T for Verizon. Where I had service, I don’t have now. When I could multitask I can’t do now. I could call in Europe back home I can’t now unless I take a Moto phone or worse and antiquated Blackberry. I don’t care for either brand. Truly, I am the dumb one. I will be leaving Verizon soon. You go ahead and live in your one task at a time world. I am not sure which is worse criticizing (Apple) or Verizon. You get responses like yours with irrational reasoning and that somehow you are so much better for picking a fruit phone or an overpriced service with significant shortcomings.

          • Cb2000a

            Sprint has great coverage where I live so most likely I will be leaving Verizon. I can get so much more with Sprint for the same price and Verizon has dropped the ball on phones so far this year and they keep getting more restrictive.

          • Gageoliver

            Ha! You are the dumb one if you switch to sprint. Say bye bye to the best phones from any carrier, and say hello to the cheapest made phones in the business.

          • Joshfriedman86

            I’m sorry that I insulted you? I wasn’t attacking you in any way whatsoever, nor was I defending Verizon or Apple or whatever it is you think I was doing. If simply stating the reason why Verizon chose CDMA over GSM offends you, then I am truly sorry. However, I am not sorry for what I will say next: You clearly have no grasp on reality. I will respond in turn to all of your “points” that you have rebutted with. You don’t have service where you used to? I am 100% sure that you left AT&T because you wanted more service, and that you probably gained more service than you lost. If you lost service where you use your phone the most, switch to another carrier (the point of having phone service is to use the phone, not pledge carrier allegiance)! Blaming Verizon for incompatible service in Europe is just plain ignorant and childish; you seem to be the type of person that also bitched and moaned to hotel concierge in Europe because they chose 240V electric service instead of 120V service, which renders your American out-of-the-box electronic chargers not to fit in their sockets. I also don’t know what you think multi-task means because that would require you to breathe, blink, and use your brain at the same time to understand simple concepts (your brain processor is too overloaded just to breathe and blink concurrently)! Ever hear of the home button on your smartphone? Try making a phone call and push it…what happens next may blow your mind! It’s probably worse to criticize Verizon for phones…they offer cellular service; that is, if you criticize Apple for not having coverage in your area, then I am just plumb tuckered out to decide which company would be worse to criticize. Irrational reasoning? Jumbo shrimp. I chose a Droid X, that’s why I’m better. My dad chose Verizon. The incremental cost of their plans to the massive increase in service is probably the most imbalanced business practice I know of and I would pay even more per month so I have service everywhere I go, especially when it comes to streaming pandora, using my navigator, sending and receiving txt messages (motospeak) all while driving down all the interstate, state and county roads in Ohio (oops, did I just refer to that mythical beast called multi-tasking again)?! And by significant shortcomings, you mean having to share my carrier with people like you, right? Oh, I missed one of your points…and I actually agree with you on this one…you truly are the dumb one.

            Use your critical thinking skills when reading posts, you will make all of our lives easier.

            And really, switch carriers if you don’t have good service, that’s what being a smart consumer is all about. Really. Please.

          • Gageoliver

            Shortcomings? Well maybe if you got a phone that could multitask from Verizon, then you could do so. You probably got the same crappy phone from Verizon that you had at at&t. And ONCE AGAIN, the price is so high, because Verizon has way better devices, service, and coverage. So, ONCE AGAIN, stop complaining and go back to your crappy carrier.

        • Cayroalex

          Hey I’ve ACTUALLY done my research and Verizon does have true 4G!! Technically what 4G speeds are is speeds of at least 25mbps. Verizon’s 4G has peak download speeds of way above that and there are videos of Verizon’s 4G going way above 25mbps. So Verizon truely does have 4G. Next time do your research better.

          • Anonymous

            These people are confused because the original 4G spec was (I think) 100Mbps, but that’s now 5G and 4G is 25.

          • Noncon21

            I’ve been reading many of the responses here and I just wanted to throw in my two cents, to those of you that think “any” provider has true 4G speeds I’m sorry to report you are sadly mistaken, I’m a network specialist, I develop and implement network topology. The term 4G is only relevant to download speeds in excess of 100mbps, anything else I’m sorry to say is simply a poser lol. I tip my hat off to those for their research but from a true network standpoint no carrier hits that speed, the cost alone would be insane to implement a topology of that magnitude, let alone maintain it. Now to the T mobile haters I applaud you as well they truly have no right to take a shot at a company like Verizon considering Verizon could “smash” their network without breaking a sweat, but Verizon customers I ask do you really think you’re paying for better service? I can tell you that that data rate that carriers pay is going down later this year…..So in short you’re paying more for non 4G speeds and lower data rates. Don’t get me wrong I think Verizon has a massive network but there customer service is terrible to say the least and their business practices as far as dealing with regular consumers is a little shady, whereas a large business they have relationships with they roll out the red carpet. I applaud Verizon for their accomplishments they have become one of the biggest wireless companies, but they by far are NOT the best. T-Mobile is ok if you want really cheap service and well frankly AT&T in the near future lol, AT&T has fallen from grace themselves they in my opinion are no longer a match for Verizon they simply do not put the recourses back into their network, they are to focused on that over priced U-verse nonsense. Sprint is a strong company they have service practically everywhere and there pricing is flexible to suit anyone. I have been on every carrier except for Alltel when they were basically what T-Mobile is now lmao, no one is perfect they all have their ups and downs.

          • Noncon21

            I’ve been reading many of the responses here and I just wanted to throw in my two cents, to those of you that think “any” provider has true 4G speeds I’m sorry to report you are sadly mistaken, I’m a network specialist, I develop and implement network topology. The term 4G is only relevant to download speeds in excess of 100mbps, anything else I’m sorry to say is simply a poser lol. I tip my hat off to those for their research but from a true network standpoint no carrier hits that speed, the cost alone would be insane to implement a topology of that magnitude, let alone maintain it. Now to the T mobile haters I applaud you as well they truly have no right to take a shot at a company like Verizon considering Verizon could “smash” their network without breaking a sweat, but Verizon customers I ask do you really think you’re paying for better service? I can tell you that that data rate that carriers pay is going down later this year…..So in short you’re paying more for non 4G speeds and lower data rates. Don’t get me wrong I think Verizon has a massive network but there customer service is terrible to say the least and their business practices as far as dealing with regular consumers is a little shady, whereas a large business they have relationships with they roll out the red carpet. I applaud Verizon for their accomplishments they have become one of the biggest wireless companies, but they by far are NOT the best. T-Mobile is ok if you want really cheap service and well frankly AT&T in the near future lol, AT&T has fallen from grace themselves they in my opinion are no longer a match for Verizon they simply do not put the recourses back into their network, they are to focused on that over priced U-verse nonsense. Sprint is a strong company they have service practically everywhere and there pricing is flexible to suit anyone. I have been on every carrier except for Alltel when they were basically what T-Mobile is now lmao, no one is perfect they all have their ups and downs.

          • Gageoliver

            Couldn’t have said it any better myself

          • Ylienow

            Whatever TMobile calls their network and whether it is actually 4g or not, it is the second fastest network (behind Verizon). Too much emphasis is placed on labeling a network this or that. What matters are actually the phones that the particular carrier has and which phone you want. Case in point, the IPhone was never on and still is not on a 4g network and it has sold…need I say more?

          • tjhrulz

            that speed test was in bits 4G in bits would be 200
            a bit is 1/8th a byte

        • Gageoliver

          You are a moron! If you don’t get good coverage where you are, then switch to someone else. And the reason the plans are so high, is because they have the best coverage and quality service, so take your complaining somewhere else. Go to GayT&t if you want to complain. And verizon is probably crappy to you, because you complain to much. So as i said, take this crap somewhere else.

        • Smith Priscilla A

          Really? Why don’t you do YOUR research Jassa, Verizon has the most coverage than any other Network. so unless you’re in dumb-F!@# nowhere then not very many other Network providers will be able to have better coverage than Verizon. Verizon has more satellites than any other network in the U.S. 

      • Cayroalex

        Actually Verizon does. What 4G technically is is speeds of at least 22mbps and Verizon’s 4G lte haspeak downloads way above that and there have been videos of Verizon’s 4G going above 22mbps. So Verizon does technically have 4G

      • Cayroalex

        Actually Verizon does. What 4G technically is is speeds of at least 22mbps and Verizon’s 4G lte haspeak downloads way above that and there have been videos of Verizon’s 4G going above 22mbps. So Verizon does technically have 4G

        • tjhrulz

          that speed test was in bits true 4G in bits would be 200
          a bit is 1/8th a byte

      • Smith Priscilla A

        As much as i would hate to say it… They actually do. sorry. 

    • Anonymous

      I agree with your statement, but faux is spelled faux.

  • Anonymous

    Preach it brother!! +100!!

  • Bigmatai

    Preach

  • Anonymous

    someone hit a soft spot with kellex ;)

    • Anonymous

      Fired up today baby! :P

      • Anonymous

        @ VZW should say something like “well in a given day our network is still x times faster so we’ll catch up ok?”

      • Anonymous

        Any word on the xoom update?

      • 4n1m4L

        T-mobile likes to use Verizon phones on their commercials. Check the spanish one they used a DROID X.