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Benchmarks: DROID Charge vs. DROID Incredible 2

DROID Charge on the left, Incredible 2 on the right.  Did you just say, “Yikes!”?  Don’t worry, I did too when I first ran them.  And then to be fair, I kept running Quadrant over and over again on the Charge hoping that it would improve.  It didn’t.

Now, we all know that Quadrant isn’t the most consistent or realistic of all benchmark apps, but at least it’s something.  It does give us a pretty good idea of where a device stands when compared to another and in this situation, the Incredible 2 is the victor.  

*Note – As many have already pointed out in the comments, the low scores from the Charge have to do with its garbage RFS file system which we were hoping they would have done away with by now.  I guess we know the answer to that.

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  • D Dorador

    ah? ive got over 2000 points on my charge

  • MontyHD

    They should try the youtube HD stream test.  Although I love the specs of the Incredible, there is no way I am sacrificing 4g speed for the next 2 years.  Tried youtube hd video with this phone versus my Droid X.  It was sicking.  The Charge streamed through the video almost instantaneously while the Droid X was never able to get a proper stream. 

    Buy now and get a lower spec’d 4g phone or get a higher spec’d 3g.  Comparing the 15mbs per second on the 4g to 3g, is like comparing T1 speeds to Aol dial up.  I have had no problems with games and applications on my Droid X.  I have had several issues streaming youtube and flash video.
     

  • Rick

    Over at XDA, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092114, has the voodoo fix for the Droid Charge. Special thanks to jt1134. My quadrant score now is 1594.

  • IT’S A DROID!!!

    holy crap, the droid charge is actually a pretty slow device… I don’t know anyone who would want such a slow device that has only 4g as its good side compared to the droid incredible which doesn’t have 4g, but does have more speed in return.

  • http://twitter.com/BlackTaxi2d Henry S

    when is quadrant ever gonna update their list of scores ? seriously, those phones are like a year old.

    …and the charge still loses.

  • Anonymous

    Does the Samsung or DI2 support eHRPD …. i.e. simul voice/data on 3G?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=553879525 Jay Dunno

    Yah remember Droid Eris…HTC POS.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=553879525 Jay Dunno

    I totally know what you mean…LOL :)

  • Anonymous

    My tbolt averaged 1650 on 2.2, can’t wait for 2.3 :)

  • Anonymous

    I’m just happy my Droid X averages 1,700 on 2.3 without even being overclocked. That phone has a lot of life left in it.

    • Anonymous

      Actually I just overclocked it to 2.2 ghz (just out of curiosity) it scored 2,053

  • http://profiles.google.com/zdori4 Dor Zvulun

    do a z4mod on the charge. it will change the file system to ext2. than to the benck… let us know if you pass the 2000 score. here in Israel we passed the 2000 on android 2.2 with Galaxy S.
    if you change all system folders (not only data) to ext2- it’s less stable but you can get 2200+.

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  • Anonymous

    Change it to ext4 and I bet the Charge ends up competing neck and neck with the Incredible 2.

  • Anonymous

    Wow. The Charge is almost as fast as my DroidX running gingerbread. Maybe in 2012 it will catch up.

  • Ufish2

    Still loving my X :) rooted,GB,OC’ed to 1.2.gingercomb juice and clockwork rom 2.3.6.1…running quad @ 2157..the only thing i miss is the front facing camera….but maybe some dev will aftermarket a camera for this feature..since i dont live in 4g coverage..and gr8 battery,so all :):)’s here…U>))));>2

  • Ufish2

    Still loving my X :) rooted,GB,OC’ed to 1.2.gingercomb juice and clockwork rom 2.3.6.1…running quad @ 2157..the only thing i miss is the front facing camera….but maybe some dev will aftermarket a camera for this feature..since i dont live in 4g coverage..and gr8 battery,so all :):)’s here…U>))));>2

  • http://hand-gadget.com Alex Nguyen

    My initial thoughts on the Droid Incredible 2 and how it’s going to do given the upcoming onslaught of high-end phones: http://wp.me/p1wchx-2j

  • Crazydog

    I CAME HERE JUST TO COMMENT THAT I like the music. :3

  • Anonymous

    what is this dope beat?

    • Crazydog

      “Amazing” by Kanye West.

      Yes, I was disappointed as well when I found out.

    • Crazydog

      “Amazing” by Kanye West.

      Yes, I was disappointed as well when I found out.

  • Anonymous

    More like over charge then charge. Other than screen what advantage does this have over thunder bolt.

    • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

      Thanks not comparing a lot

  • http://www.facebook.com/beegore Brandon Bombard

    I think it’s funny how everyone thinks that the benchmark scores are so important. What you need to do is just use your phone and test it daily seeing how the multi-tasking works for you. I have a rooted phone with a rom on it that benchmarks at 1400. It’s more snappier and smooth than the same setup but with a different kernel overclocked to 1900+. Don’t let a low benchmark score deter you from lower kernels or roms. That’s my tid bit.

  • Anonymous

    1:55 kellex is a mom aparently, that or you forgot to hit the settings on the android market to interest based ads… :)

  • MOTOX

    what song is this?

    • Anonymous

      Reminds me of The Glitch Mob – Animos Vox. but it isn’t. :P
      good song though

    • Anonymous

      decide on a tablet? :)

    • Jake Fishero

      To me it sounds like Kanye West – Monster…but I could be wrong & it could the song he based his beat off of.

      • Jake Fishero

        Nevermind. Had wrong song in my head. I think it’s a Kanye Song but not monster.

        • Jake Fishero

          Kanye West – Amazing.

  • Emily

    My Droid 2 on Liberty ROM goes through Quadrant slower than the Droid Charge but I get scores of 1400+

  • http://profiles.google.com/mastertupac12345 Gavin Marty

    Its because samsung uses a shitty file writing system, unlock the droid charge and you could see 2200’s easy trust me im a doctor

  • Anonymous
  • http://twitter.com/hijackerjack Rohil Thopu

    Same shitty RFS filesystem.. Apparently Samsung doesn’t learn

  • http://twitter.com/Droid_soldier Paul Devey

    DInc2 is really turning out a million times better than I hoped, and I had some high expectations

  • http://profiles.google.com/ewhitak Eric Whitaker

    Its hard to see what the actually scores are. Can someone post what the numbers are?

    • Anonymous

      995 and 1537 respectively

  • LTEDROID

    I find it interesting that everyone is bashing this phone. A few months ago I tried out the iPhone 4 and iPad 2 just for fun. I posted a few comments on this site that I felt apple had better hardware than most companies that manufacture android phones and that android had a lot of potential but when left in the hands of incompetent companies comes out well… looking like touch wiz. Everyone was upset and argued with my comments, but now the newest and most powerful DROID to date is being put down by the “loyal” droid-life readers. That’s just strange to me… I personally agree with Kellex, I am going to get rid of the iphone and get this phone then immediately replace touch wiz with Launcher pro. Show a little respect for the first 4G droid… bashing one particular phone isnt going to stop two year of inadequate hardware and retarded skins.

    • Anonymous

      Why would you buy this phone? If you want LTE the Thunderbolt is much better. If you don’t want LTE get the Incredible 2. And if you don’t need a phone right now wait for dual core phones to get more prevalent.

      I agree with you when it comes to hardware though. The worst part about Android is how the manufacturers do everything they can to mess it up all in the goal of making a buck.

      • http://twitter.com/singingsabre Edward Arriola

        I love my hard keys. I’d pay a premium to keep them.

      • LTEDROID

        Good point, I would like to wait for a optimized dual core phone. I think the closest one to Verizon will be the BIONIC but I honestly think BLUR is much harder to look at than even touch wiz

        • Anonymous

          I just hope. We see the galaxy s2 on vzw as a slim 3g phone, and this thing as the 4g ….please…

        • Anonymous

          But the Blur I have on my DX (which will most probably also be on the Bionic) isn’t bad at all. Take it from me, I hated Blur as much as the next DX owner but this one looks great (bummer if you don’t like blue though). It’s really stable and the best rom I’ve loaded on this thing. That’s also partly because DX roms aren’t THAT great…

          • LTEDROID

            True… blur on 2.3 isn’t as bad as 2.2

          • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

            Thunderbolt is a pos I had that thing for a week never will I look at it again light leaks, battery, gps problems, screen was alright but not that great for 250 plus, not as snappy as people are saying lagged with sense, thunderbolt is a weak phone and I tried to like it just not worth the’money, dust under the screen because they dont’know how to seal it voice quality horrible, I don’t care that people support it every phone gets’supported that is high end so using that excuse is lame

          • http://profiles.google.com/dsgamecube Kenny Jackson

            …but Moto said that new phones are getting XOOM-style bootloaders (fastboot oem-unlock/relock) in 2011, so that plus Moto’s awesome build quality plus Tegra 3 (or whatever that thing will end up having) will get some great ROMs. Also, Tegra 2+ devices get PlayStation games (or will soon, Sony promised).

          • Anonymous

            Im not so trusting of Sony these days.

      • Anonymous

        Better at what exactly? Better at being thicker? Better at having a less effective display? Better at running quadrant?
        Let’s be honest here, unless you have aesthetic qualms with the Charge, touchwiz, or are still worried sick about Samsung’s history with updates, the Thunderbolt isn’t better at anything worth discussing.

        • Anonymous

          Better at not having crappy Samsung plastic build quality. Better looking (IMO anyway). No crappy RFS which doesn’t just affect benchmark scores but also affects performance in actual use (I have a Vibrant so I have seen this). And 3rd party dev support will be much better with the Thunderbolt.

          The screen may be better (especially if it is SuperAMOLED Plus) but that is about it. I’m not interested in either phone but if I was I would definetly get the Bolt.

          • Anonymous

            My fiance has a Fascinate, and I’ve no idea what you’re on about. I’ve also gone to countless forums on the subject when I was considering getting one of my own, but whatever you say.
            And I’ve read/seen 3 or 4 initial impressions on the thing now and not one of them mentioned build quality as a con to the device.
            The screen is better, the gpu is better, the battery life is better. The only thing the only real advantage the Thunderbolt has is that developer support you mentioned…and a kickstand.

          • http://profiles.google.com/dsgamecube Kenny Jackson

            The Fascinate’s CPU and GPU are vastly inferior to the Snapdragon II. We still aren’t sure about the Charge because it’s as-yet unreleased, but the screen is really the only upside to Samsungs. Even my relatively antiquated Incredible has an EXT4 /system, so Samsung has no excuse for the Charge. The Thunderbolt is both better and less expensive than the Charge despite being older.

          • Zeadaplaya

            lolol the hummingbird is AMAZING, and it pwns your “snapGAY” anyday.

          • Anonymous

            The phone isn’t dog slow, it is just laggy. It is fine when you first get it like most phones, and doesn’t lag necessarily while you’re in a program, it is switching between programs and the UI that will lag. This is because of the RFS file system, that is why the Nexus S handles better than the SGS series (even with 2.3 on it) and why every ROM worth its salt changed the file system from RFS to ext4.

            Build quality wise besides the Captivate and possibly the Epic (haven’t had much experience with it) the SGS series is characterized by plasticy, cheap feeling plastic. It is how they make the phone feel so light. Construction wise it may hold up fine (I got mine in a case ASAP and haven’t tested it) but it feels cheap and low quality compared to other phones. This is admittedly depending on your taste (like anything else) but this is a feeling echoed by a lot of people.

            You’re right the screen is better. SuperAMOLED is awesome and if it is SuperAMOLED Plus it will be even better. The GPU is better, overall performance wise the 2nd gen Snapdragon is close to the Hummingbird SoC, with the Hummingbird slightly edging it out. Not sure if the performance difference is enough to matter, especially with the FS holding it back). The battery life difference is yet TBD. The Charge and the Thunderbolt both have LTE radios and that is what is using the most battery. I would not be surprised at all if the Charge and Thunderbolt have similar use times. If not, that will definitely make the Charge edge out over the Thunderbolt.

            Now as far as dev support maybe I need to realize that not everyone uses phones like I do, rooting them and customizing them all to hell. But to me if your phone doesn’t have decent third party dev and ROM support, it is worthless. You can’t depend on manufacturers and carriers keeping your phone up to date, secure, or to fix anything but the must game stopping of bugs. Being able to root the phone and install ROMs is really important to me and the way I use the phone. Without it you can’t count on your phone being any better or more current than the day you get it.

        • Anonymous

          They’re pretty much equal aside from the branding. Bolt does have 256mb more RAM, 6GB more internal storage, and cheaper. Other things are debatable, like if the 2nd gen Snapdragon is faster than whatever unnamed 1Ghz core in the Charge. Also S.AMOLED+ vs S.LCD (outdoors and indoors) TouchWiz vs Sense 2.0, etc.

          • http://twitter.com/chaoscentral John Pisano

            The Hummingbird in the CHARGE is most definitely faster than a 2nd gen snapdragon. That GPU is still much better than the Adreno 205.

          • Anonymous

            You know if it’s a new 2nd gen Hummingbird? What’s the GPU? A new PowerVR
            SKU?

          • Majorcovert

            I hate to think Sony would use the Adreno 205 in the Xperia Play if it was a bad GPU.

          • Zeadaplaya

            and ive used both and let me tell you the samoled display kicks the slcds butt anyday.

    • C63

      Agreed, Super Amoled plus screen and larger battery make it more attractive than the TB to me. Plus I love having a DROID branded phone

    • Anonymous

      Why show it any respect? Verizon is obviously showing the DROID brand no respect by allowing this sorry excuse for a phone (as much as I personally like the cosmetic appearance of it) to be a DROID.

  • JB

    The frame rates look in some areas to be faster on the charge

  • fartbubbler

    love the music.
    love my DX baked in gingerbread.

    money socked away waiting for the Targonic…

  • http://twitter.com/mnkyhead mnkyhead

    but I got to say the screen on the Charge look amazing.

  • http://twitter.com/krusty46 krusty46

    This is why I got a Thunderbolt. Samsung is underwhelming, Motorola locks everything and LG is too new at smartphones.

  • scrizzo

    …but it has a nice screen :)

  • Anonymous

    It’s amazing.

  • DanSke

    ….And my TBolt looks even better.

  • The Dave

    So……. What reasons are there to even buy this phone?

    TB gets you 4G
    All the other specs are dated, if not outdated by now

    Screw. This. Phone. Love your TV’s Sammy, but this is just not buyable

    • Anonymous

      not to mention tb gets you updates lol

    • Zeadaplaya

      dated specs? faster processor, better screen, better gpu, better camera, lightweight, but hey, at least the thunderbolt has a kickstand.

  • vernon

    they want to CHARGE $300 for this?!?

    • http://twitter.com/erickbernal27 Erick Bernal

      I See What You Did There -.-

    • Stephen D

      So punny!!

  • LTEDROID

    i dont really feel quadrant has anything to do with the performance of the phone. My fascinate was way lower than my DX but still felt faster in some areas

    • Chris Evans608

      Yea my DX ran 1643 nonrooted

  • Whiteiphone

    Who cares about this the white iPhone is coming out tommorrow

    • LTEDROID

      lol

    • HTCFTW

      really.. you iPhone user!!!! IPHONE SUCKS!!!!!

      • Anonymous

        /s

      • Anonymous

        But it has teh wifi’s and lots of geebeez. I can also install apps to it

        • Aboldy75

          Love that video

    • Mr.Joe

      I know Kellex will be doing that!

    • Nick

      The Human CentiPad!!!!! On tonight at 9pm CST!

    • Lestroisneon

      that’s funny!

    • you so dumb

      lol iPhone?  get out of the stone age.

  • Stephen D

    This is all due to the RFS file system on the Charge. Quadrant heavily relies on I/O. It isn’t weak hardware, it’s the slow file system. The Inc 2 is EXT4. EXT4 is significantly faster, and since Quadrant relies so heavily on I/O, the Galaxy Ss benchmark horribly. So you should do this again once there are voodoo kernels out that convert the file system from RFS to EXT4.

    • Anonymous

      So the Charge is still that same garbage file system then? We were worried about this. Yikes.

      • Stephen D

        Yep, it’s really sad since Samsung admitted RFS was slow and went EXT4 with the Galaxy S2.

        • Anonymous

          And they had to go EXT4 with the Nexus. It’s just looking more and more by the minute like this is just a big Fascinate.

          • Stephen D

            Yeah, Google wouldn’t let Samsung touch the software on the Nexus S :P. That’s really what the Charge is though. It baffles me that they didn’t use the EXT4 file system since, like I said, the Galaxy S2 uses it. Just hope for Voodoo kernels soon. If it wasn’t for rooting and voodoo kernels and the like, I never would’ve gotten the Fascinate since it kinda blows when it’s stock.

  • SoCalDan02

    Wow, talk about un-impressive numbers. On both devices.

  • http://twitter.com/Druuseph Andrew Sileo

    Like usual from Samsung is all because of their crappy filesystem they use. The biggest difference between those two phones was the file system writes, when the hell will they learn that the way they are doing it sucks?

  • Anonymous

    And my mind changes again.