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No Surprise Here, Verizon’s 4G LTE Network Crushes Sprint’s 4G WiMAx in 1,000 Speed Tests

Research firm BTIG decided it was time to for Verizon’s HTC Thunderbolt to battle it out with Sprint’s HTC EVO 4G to see who’s 4G network reigned supreme.  As you can probably imagine, it wasn’t much of a competition.  Big Red’s new LTE network is the closest of any carrier’s network to resembling true 4G, and this was clearly apparent after 1,000 tests were completed in New York City.  

Testers used the mobile hotspot app on both phones to provide network access to a Toshiba laptop and iPad2 and these were the results:

Again, the numbers aren’t close, but I’m not sure that many of us expected them to be.  The interesting notes here are the fact that BTIG claimed that Verizon’s brand new network had better overall coverage than Sprint’s almost 3-year old network.  They also had to toss out the fact that the TBolt has slightly better battery life.  Priceless.

Via:  BGR, BTIG Research

  • johns

    I have EVO and it is a fantastic phone, however SPRINT sucks all the way.
    Not only is their 4g horrible, but many times I get no data connection for no reason and that’s smack in the middle of Los Angeles. It seems that their network goes down a lot. They are even overburdened with just regular calls which explains why so many users get voice mails when they were available; the network was too busy to forward the call.
    By the time my contract is over, I will be switching to another carrier, but I would like to stay with EVO-like phone…

  • frustrated

    i’ve running a pantech umw-290 4g broadband card and with good signal i’m happy to see 200kbps. I’ve seen some isloated bursts of up to 1200kpbs but so far i’m starting to think the hardware may have problems. Not at all impressed with 4g so far. It’s not even stable… keeps going dormant when it should be downloading. If the issue isn’t resolved i’m going back to my 3g service, i’m not locking in on a 2 year contract for some service that’s shoddy. My 3g may not have been very fast, but at least it was reliable.

  • Beats

    I average 6 to 10Mbps. I don’t understand how your numbers ended up so low for the Evo. I know Verizon Lte is still capable of more than that though.

  • Beats

    I average 6 to 10Mbps. I don’t understand how your numbers ended up so low for the Evo. I know Verizon Lte is still capable of more than that though.

  • http://profiles.google.com/dsgamecube Kenny Jackson

    “whose network”, not “who’s network”, please.

  • http://twitter.com/Pollita_Droid Erica M.

    Sprint Sucks, I thought everyone knew this already.. But I’m sure they are still crying because the deal they were working with T-mobile was stolen right from underneath them by AT&T. :/ This is a another example of when good phones hit bad networks… to be continued.

  • Euphorian

    not to mention Sprint could merge with Verizon on LTE

  • Euphorian

    not to mention Sprint could merge with Verizon on LTE

  • Larson1972

    Sprint may be slow at the moment but Wi-max2 is coming out
    the cell phone battle continues….

  • Anonymous

    Interesting to see the significant differences between the Toshiba laptop and the iPad 2. Would have been interesting to see a MacBook compared as well to determine if other Apple products suffer from significant speed reductions as well.

  • Jawshua

    I’m so glad to finally see the Mobile View of the website back up, I mean it’s ironic to not have it functioning for a site about “mobile” phones…

  • Jawshua

    I’m so glad to finally see the Mobile View of the website back up, I mean it’s ironic to not have it functioning for a site about “mobile” phones…

  • Anonymous

    you pay for that speed with a 5 hour battery life

  • http://twitter.com/atlmann10 atlmann10

    Rofl; that means you will hit your limit and be getting reamed much quicker on Verizon (IE: $30, $50 or $80 variable the 80 being the unlimited like ATT that is not really unlimited), and I am sure that is a mega positive really. Of course for the $10 up charge on a Sprint smart phone you can do whatever you want. $10 seems much better than 30, 50 or 80 to me coming out of my pocket no matter the speed Vs. unlimited for 10.

  • Anonymous

    How about Verizon fixes the LTE network so all of us that has a Thunderbolt can actually use it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/serio Austin Serio

    Does anyone else see that grass background on the thunderbolt? where can i get that? it didnt come pre-loaded on mine

  • http://www.facebook.com/serio Austin Serio

    especially the valley area! I can’t believe were getting it in the first year too. I really thought we’d be last

    • Anonymous

      O that’s ok, we’re always last in this Valley… last for EVDO, last for Broadband, last for 4G…. I’m sure it’ll hit here around the 5th of Never…

  • mattgyver83

    i always ask for the most weefes and geebes duh!

  • http://twitter.com/THEMONEYCARTEL Jason Maserati

    Thunderbolt > HTC Evo but… HTC Evo 3D > Thunderbolt

    • Mii

      maybe so , but if its on a crappy network , even the tbolt might outpreform the evo 3d

      • angermeans

        That’s how I feel too. I would rather have Verizon’s 4G LTE than a dual core processor and sprints wimax. Plus one could make the argument that they would rather have a lower Res slcd than a higher Res tft especially if HTC goes the same route as motorola with the atrix and uses pentile matrix. Still the evo 3D is a beast I would love to have on verizon but the thunderbolt is the better choice for since it is on Verizon’s network with lte

  • http://twitter.com/vdefender Taylor A.

    Yep. I live about 30 minutes south east of Seattle and I’m averaging 20Mbps download (with peaks up to 25) and averaging 9Mbps upload, with a ping of 75. It’s literally faster than my Comcast cable internet line which is averaging about 18Mbps download on cable, and only 2Mbps upload >.< The only thing cable has on my 4G is that I get a ping of around 11.

  • Anonymous
  • Ron Paul 2012

    Serious Question: how many people here really NEED that much speed?
    I understand if you’re a business person a fast 4G is a must even for an expensive price, but if you’re (probably a kid) just going to download Angry Birds, watch YouTube, and read articles and facebook…then Sprint’ speed is good enough especially for its competitive price. I’m with Sprint and I know that they are not as fast as Verizon, but I do know that Sprint’ price is cheaper and I’m saving a ton of money. With the economy getting worst: inflation and gas prices I’ll take Sprint all the way. So, Verizon costumers could brag about their 4G speed that majority of you don’t really NEED and Sprint costumers will brag how much money their saving.
    I’m an adult that uses my smart phone for business and personal use and Sprint is good enough for me.

    Ron Paul 2012!

    • Thunder4gfast

      Are you crazey? Its a 10mbps internet connection on your cellphone!!!! I cant wait to see what services come out and how people change their habits. I just hope we can keep the unlimited plans or stream services wont work no mater the speed. GREED

    • Hypcrsy

      I bet I pay less than you do for unlimited everything…..$55 after taxes/fees? I don’t have to rationalize sacrificing anything for a lower price.

      • Ron Paul 2012

        Probably? I have Sprint unlimited everything family share with 3 lines and 25% employee discount…my monthly bill is $130/mo after taxes/fees. So, I’m paying $43.33/per line for unlimited everything. How many lines do you have?

        • XorDie

          I have 5 lines and mine is usually around that much with unlimited everything (verizon)

          • Bigguh

            How is this possible?

        • Bigguh

          I’m not here to argue about who is better, but your math seems a little off to me. I’m guessing you might have had this plan for a while or something because 2 lines for unlimited everything with Sprint is $189.98…and a 3rd line would make each line $89.99, or about $270. 25% of that is not $130/month. I guess I am curious about your plan. Also, you may have meant that you have the Everything Data Family plan, not the Simply Everything plan. That seems that it would be more accurate. Not a big deal, as you probably wouldn’t use most of those minutes anyway.

          • Ron Paul 2012

            Forgot to mention that Sprint gives me special deal for being a loyal customer, since I’ve been with them since 2002 and I pay my bills on time. My plan and pricing is accurate.

        • Anonymous

          See how long that lasts when Sprint is battling Verizon on one side and AT&T/T-Mobile on the other. I don’t think it will be long before Sprint is crushed and begging to be bought.

    • BIG DADDY 803

      you pay for what you get!!!!

      • Ron Paul 2012

        I’m paying for what I NEED.

      • Ron Paul 2012

        I’m paying for what I NEED.

    • http://thisisjohncoffey.com GRAND MASTER SEN$Ei {{-_-}}™

      Only a right-winger would be trying to convince people to be happy with less capable phone service. You probably support 4G data caps and the demise of net neutrality. What you’re saying sounds like most of the corporate propagandist rhetoric coming from Fox Noise.

      Conservatives. Always trying to dictate to other people what they need or how much they need. Last time I checked, WE won the Cold War.

      That’s the beauty of capitalism: We don’t have to be afraid to have BETTER data service. Even if all we do is Facebook, YouTube, and play Angry Birds. (Furthermore, 4G will come in REALLY handy once that Playstation app officially arrives out of beta.) {{-_-}}

      • Ron Paul 2012

        i’m sorry, but i’m an independent. just to let you know Foxnews HATES Ron Paul. google it on your fast 4g phone!!! also i’m a huge supporter of the Clintons (Bill and Hillary). When Hillary came to my school on 2008 at SDSU I was there to support her. And, i was supposed to attend Bill Clinton global initiative this weekend, but i wasn’t able to. i’ve been a Bill Clinton supporter since the 90’s even when he got his d!ck suck. Right winger my a$$!!!

        i am against net neutrality and against data capping that is why i’m with Sprint. Verizon is going to cap your 4G data soon, if you didn’t know. how the hell can you support net neutrality when you don’t know the bill’s full detail? the full detail of the bill was never released. FCC doesn’t even know what’s on the bill. the internet is fine the way it is.

        i’m not afraid of verizon data service i’m afraid of the expensive tag price. and i’ve been with Sprint since 2002 and never had a major issue and i have a great service where i live.

        wow. So, you’re willing to waste your or your parents’ money for a fast 4g data speed which you don’t NEED, so you could go on facebook, watch youtube and play angry birds. and you think having a playstation app makes it worth having a expensive phone bill every month. no wonder the economy is all f@cked up.

        Ron Paul 2012!

        • http://thisisjohncoffey.com GRAND MASTER SEN$Ei {{-_-}}™

          Okay, so you’re with the Tea Party instead. Alrighty then, Rand.

          As for your second paragraph, that’s what ROOTING is for.

          You get what you pay for. Verizon has better service. Of course that isn’t gonna come cheap. Sprint service is terrible. I used to have them and I’m never going back.

          The economy is f@cked up because of wealthy greedy corporations taking all of our tax money while our corrupt government gets us into wars. Get it correct. {{-_-}}

          • Ron Paul 2012

            Now, I’m a Tea Party. Which part of “independent” didn’t you understand? I don’t care what party runs the country as long as they run it well.
            It’s possible to root the data speed but not the size. Pray Verizon caps your 4g speed.
            Yes, the economy is f@cked up because of wealthy greedy banks, government AND people who were ignorant enough to take out loans and charged their credit cards when they didn’t have the sufficient funding to pay their debts. Those people wasn’t forced to take those loans and charged their credit cards to purchased things that they don’t NEED. I know my stuff. I’m pursuing my second college degree in finance and economic.
            Plus, my main question was do you NEED the speed?

        • Anonymous

          I pay 30 for unlimited verizon data and 45 for phone. google voice for texting.

          Where’s the expensive monthly bill?

          Who the hell doesn’t want fast 4G so when you need to tether or watch a video or download a porno you can do it FAST?

          • Anonymous

            the “unlimited” is capped at 5gb
            why tether when your capped at 5gb?
            and google voice does not do MMS. No one is going to want to send a pic that they took too your email, its unconvenient

        • Jawshua

          I think you meant to say, you’re for Net Neutrality, because if you’re against it, you want greedy companies running the internet and telling you what you can and can’t do on it, I.e. goodbye everything you love about the internet and hello to whatever the man thinks you should use.

      • Anonymous

        Actually, most conservatives would be arguing to let the market determine capability. The liberals would be arguing that WiMax’s speeds aren’t fair and we need to steal bandwidth from Verizon to “even the playing field”.

      • Cmub

        You missed the point of Ron Paul 2012’s post, and, actually, you reaffirmed what he/she said. Don’t get me wrong, I’m with Verizon and quite happy with the service I’ve receive, but he/she is simply stating financially speaking Sprint is the wiser choice – less expensive service saves money. He/She isn’t stating that you shouldn’t be able to get the 4G LTE speeds, just that, if you look at what you are using it for, if 3G actually is sufficient to accomplish what you are trying to do then sacrificing speed for savings isn’t a bad idea. Your closing comment about the the Playstation app coming out making 4G handy reaffirms that a good portion of those who feel they NEED 4G are possibly younger people who are looking to play games rather than fulfill responsibilities. Before you ask, or make the verbal comment as you read this, I’m waiting for the Droid Bionic to get on 4G, but I do intend to connect.

        • Ron Paul 2012

          thank you. finally somebody got it.

    • Jawshua

      As a game developer I could always benefit from that extra speed, especially with my business partner being in Japan. The more everything gets beefed up, all the better in my opinion.

  • Anonymous

    I hate how people keep saying the evo and the tbolt are the same phone. The tbolt has newer hardware, and true 4g and even looks better. I don’t have 4g here yet, but this phone beats a lot that are out right now..

    • SladeNoctis

      No true 4g, but better hardware. For reason i dont believe the scores for wiimax. It seems too low 6-8mbps down is understandable but only 1mbps down thats lower then 3g standards. I know this is a pro verizon site due to droid but yous guys have to admit theres something fishy with those wiimax scores.

      • http://twitter.com/Dirtball_Rotten Dirtball Rotten

        i have 2 friends. one has the EVO and one has the Epic 4g … and they both are FAST AS HELL… so i agree that these results sound fishy.. i had my laptop linked up to the Epic 4g on the hotspot and i was getting 10 down easliy

  • Anonymous

    They should do a test against the atrix and at&ts 4g claim.

    • angermeans

      Lol that would be even worse.

  • Carl

    i know this is totally off topic, but where can i find the wallpaper used in the Thunderbolt image. thanks :)

  • http://twitter.com/d1m1m1 David M

    How sad… by that you probably assume i have Sprint… and, your right.

    • Johnny1033

      Thank you, David.

      • http://www.facebook.com/serio Austin Serio

        no no no, thank you

    • Johnny1033

      Thank you, David.

  • @AKidNameTiece

    1,000 times in the exact same location??? really…..?….. man GTFOH!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I4J637NCS4OJDWICWETTFRVAEQ Anonymous

    Why do they show these new phones with Gingerbread, when none of them will come with it?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I4J637NCS4OJDWICWETTFRVAEQ Anonymous

    How many of you actually have 4G in your area? I live 40 minutes north of philly and it’s not there. gotta go to NJ to get it.

    • Anonymous

      Had it since launch. Finally being a Dolphin fan pays off.

    • KO

      I’m in New Jersey and don’t have 4G here either. There’s a strip cutting through NJ connecting Philadelphia to New York City and that’s it. First time NJ wasn’t treated as if it was a part of NY and I’m shocked I’m actually upset by it.

  • AlwaysSunny

    Most evo owners are just as bad as iphone fan boys, hopefully this shuts them up a little bit.

    • Tehckotek

      my first android phone was the original droid, then upgraded to droid2, even that i switched to sprint still having my beloved droid2, i’m not thinking to give it away soon or in the future. i got the evo and between you and me sprint “sucks”. the evo its really a good phone, what really mess it up is the sprint freaking, stupid and retarted network. i’m crazy with my macbook, but thats it, trash the !phone please… i’m not saying youre wrong, but check out the evo, its a really nice device. not blame the evo for the network please lol jajajajaja

      • Anonymous

        im with you, im in love with my macbook, but hate the rest of apple

        • http://www.facebook.com/christopher.orlando1 -Christopher Orlando

          I like my mbp and all of apple actually, it causes android and HTC to push the bar higher, keeps them on their toes. I obviously love my thunderbolt leagues over the uPhone, but I love that it exists…

          If everyone had Thunderbolts and LTE then our phones wouldnt absolutely crush any other phone…

      • Mikee

        Agreed. Love my rooted EVO, hate Sprint’s slow a$$ network, especially since I don’t even have 4G here in Montgomery, a capital city…

  • Anonymous

    I live in the Detroit area and get 15 down average. I compared it to my home internet (at&t u-verse) and i have to say, my phones wifi was faster.

  • http://twitter.com/AdamAlter Adam Alter

    While I’m very happy with my TBolt and Verizon, in Austin Sprint kills them in data speeds. I was getting 4-6mbps consistently all over Austin while LTE isn’t even in Austin and won’t be for another year.

    I ended up disabling 4G anyways for batt life on the EVO. Rarely found a use for crazy brandwidth on my phone. Solid 3g easily streams video and music.

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  • Anonymous

    People always compare the pricing of unlimited packages. When I worked for verizon, I had maybe a handful of customers that actually USED their unlimited minutes. most people would suffice on a 900 minute, and some people even worked on a 450 minute plan. With Nights, Weekends, and verizon-to-verzion, most of your calls are free anyway (big red IS the biggest cell phone company…).

    Before comparing plans people should evaluate the minutes they’re using and see if unlimited is really nessecary. It should be noted that the few customers that were on the unlimited plan that NEEDED it were traveling businessmen, making tons of money to the point where it didn’t matter to them.

    • Anonymous

      That’s why I use the 450 plan. I don’t need more minutes but wouldn’t mind a few more txt messages. Don’t need 5000 of them.

    • Anonymous

      And to make it even better Verizon is allowing customers to add 5 Friends & Family to the 450 plan as a promotion, if you’re willing to extend your contract for 1 year.

  • Ffred316

    i live in miami and i can`t complain about sprint service and i get 5 to 6 mbps on my 4g service i`ll say thats more than what i need and for 69.99 i`ll take it any day of the week

  • Tnash87

    I get 3 to 4 mbps on 3g with my Nexus S

  • http://twitter.com/qudwls6933 BJ P.

    this is useless to me.. 3G T.T

  • Ffred316

    sprint everything plan 69.99 thats including 4g
    BIG RED 69.00 unlimited min +39.99 unlimited text + 59.99 , 5 gb of 4g lte =179.99+tax
    yeaaaaaaa big red

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1815016354 Brandon TheGuv French

      Sprint = 69.99 + $10 4G fee = 79.99

      Big Red = (Who uses unlimited min?)(450 min)49.99 + Free Google Voice text + “unlimited”LTE 29.99 = ~79.99

    • guest

      Not trying to defend Verizon bc they are expensive, but do you expect the same from a BMW as you would from a Honda?
      Do some research next time, Verizon unlimited talk and text: 89.99+29.99 Unlimited data= 129.98+tax
      That’s the beauty of choice. You’ll get what you pay for. They really do have the best network.

    • Mikecarrillo80

      Where the hell is the dislike button…and you get what you pay for.

    • Anonymous

      Unlimited talk and text is 89.99 and unlimited web for your phone, 3G or 4G is 29.99, which equals 119.98, Sprint’s unlimited everything is 99.99 with a ten dollar add on for 4G, bringing it to 109.99, which is cheaper. Even if you get the any mobile plan you’re talking about, you only get 450 minutes plus you can call any mobile number for free, and it’s 69.99 + 10 for 4G, so get your numbers straight. Sprint offers a great service, but so does Verizon, and it’s faster.

  • Anonymous

    Ok, now show me a Mbps/cost chart. Verizon is the best, but its plans also cost more than Sprint.

    I also liked that they used an EVO and TBolt, since the two are basically the same phone.

    • anon

      Well yeah, like any other product in this entire country, you get what you pay for. Not to complain, but i work for the Big V and i can’t tell you how many people call everyday and whine about how these other carriers offer the same plans for way cheaper…enjoy your subpar coverage and dropped calls. If you want the best service, your gonna have to pay for it. Cell service is no different from any other product, not sure why people seem to think differently.

      • Edlo83

        I totally agree with your statement..

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000106808261 Keith Sumner

        Very true, my wife used to work for Verizon and it has always been this way. Also, Verizon being more expensive helps to deter these fly by subscribers/teenagers that never pay their bill and hop from carrier to carrier until they’v maxed out their balance on each one. Verizon knows how to do business.

  • Retrokid223

    Can’t wait for LTE to land in CT this year ^_^

  • Ahhlix

    Ok, lets consider this. I owe an evo and use 4g at home in CA most people don’t keep in mind that Sprint shares wimax with Clearwire and that Verizon’s network is new and not as congested yet but the real results will come when everyone is using Verizons LTE

    • jason6g

      supposedly… lte was designed to manage alot more users. since 3g hasnt bottlenecked i doubt their lte will anytime soon.

    • Marcusrussell547

      Metro pcs uses verizon 4glte and down south there is alot of metro pcs 4g phones running around even with that i average 20 down and 30 up in jacksonville florida

    • Anonymous

      Also consider that Verizon has only begun to establish the 4G network and yet had better coverage. How is that possible with a 3 year head start? Maybe Sprint should have increased some prices and invested more in their network since the network’s quality will ultimately determine the quality of service.

    • Anonymous

      You bring up a very good point. It’s worth noting that this is why AT&T is merging in T-Mobile. The game today is all about spectrum. Nothing else is more important. During the government’s auction of the old TV analog TV spectrum Verizon bought up the best possible 700 range spectrum at the best possible bandwidth, but that bandwidth still has it’s limits. We will see as they begin to transition all primary data to LTE and then following that after 2013 the full VoLTE or Voice over LTE if the network can handle the strain of voice and data at the same time. Building penetration will be fine, but will the reliability always be there?

      These are valuable questions.

  • Mr.Joe

    Ok ok.

    But what about the nations largest 4G network TMobile? I’m sure their speedy 4G network can run circles around vzw.

  • Mr.Joe

    Ok ok.

    But what about the nations largest 4G network TMobile? I’m sure their speedy 4G network can run circles around vzw.

    • Rickkane

      Are you drunk?

      • Retrokid223

        I hope he is drunk posting a dumb comment like that

      • Mr.Joe

        Just saying what Tmobile is saying.

      • Anonymous

        ATT has the fastest mobile broadband network….still
        atleast their commercials are still claiming, so it must be true

        Conclusion:
        ATT 3g>VZW 4G LTE

        • Aristotletech

          Because everyone knows that commercials always tell the truth, without skewing any details or exaggerating any statistics. Because everyone in the telecom industry is -so- wonderfully honest.

        • Mr.Joe

          I bet AT&T’s true 4G network will win against vzws any day of the week!

          They have the fastest 3G so I’m sure their 4G network is amazing.

    • Anonymous

      If HSPA+ is faster… then why is At&t and T-Mobile looking in to converging to LTE as well??? :) Move along nothing to see here.

    • Viper1549

      your high.. i think thats what it is.. VZN has the best 4G in USA period, learn something new everyday.

    • http://thisisjohncoffey.com GRAND MASTER SEN$Ei {{-_-}}™

      That had to have been posted just for shock value. {{-_-}}

  • Anonymous

    Not surprised. Wish Verizon wasn’t avoiding VA, because from what I can tell there won’t be any sites for LTE (except for possible Dulles Airport) until 2012, which sucks.

    Also, is there any news of Verizon getting the Nexus S? Because I am tempted by the Sprint Wi-Max Nexus S, but would like to stay on Verizon for their superior LTE.

    • http://thisisjohncoffey.com GRAND MASTER SEN$Ei {{-_-}}™

      You think those greedy evil b*stards at VZW are going to allow a phone with an unlocked bootloader and no bloatware to even come close to one of their stores? Please. {{-_-}}

      • http://www.nclf.net/ Goldman60

        You mean like the unlocked Motorola XOOM tablet?

        • http://thisisjohncoffey.com GRAND MASTER SEN$Ei {{-_-}}™

          That’s a TABLET. You can’t put bloatware or a signed bootloader on a touchscreen laptop and expect it to sell. Smartphones are a different ballgame. {{-_-}}

          • http://www.nclf.net/ Goldman60

            I’m pretty sure the iPad has a signed bootloader, and have you ever owned a laptop from Dell or HP by chance?

  • Gman

    Big Red
    Enuff said

  • Adfadsfasdfa

    April Fools ahahahahahahaha, jk. first.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=797475274 Nadeem Najib Kizi

      Lol you use a random name, so you can use the word “first” and not receive shit from others? lmao.
      Pathetic.

      • guest

        And youre mad bc he beat you to it?

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=797475274 Nadeem Najib Kizi

          Lol and you are… Adfadsfasdfa w/…a new name?
          When the word first is used for “first comment etc,” it’s usually used by immature people like you 2, or should I say 1?
          You make it sound as if he is going to win a trophy.
          Brb shooting my friend 1000 bullets, so his family gets a world genius record for having a child being shot the most times.
          He was the first to do it.