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Verizon Working Through LTE Issues, First Phones Before “Second Half of the Year”

Verizon CTO Tony Melone spoke at Credit Suisse’s Convergence conference this week and answered a few questions about the state of their 4G LTE network and the first handset that many were expecting by now, the HTC Thunderbolt.  The responses he gave aren’t going to exactly please the heck out of you, but he did stick to their “first half of 2011” timeline that was set back at CES.  He also mentioned issues which have been rumored time and time again, claiming that they are “working through” them without getting too specific…

I guess our expectations change, but we had said first half of this year at CES, quite frankly, we think that exceeded people’s expectations. A year ago, people didn’t believe that there would be LTE smartphones in 2011. First half of the year is what we promised, first half of the year is still on track. So we don’t believe there are any new or surprising issues. I think what we’re facing is what you would expect, and that is a new technology, you are working through issues. And we anticipated that, and we are pleased at how we are working through issues. And as I said, you are going to see LTE smartphones on the network as promised, before the first half — before the second half of the year, by the end of the second quarter.

“Before the second half of the year, by the end of the second quarter.”  Politically correct, I get it.  It’s still painfully obvious that they tried to push up the date of the Thunderbolt, but the technology just wasn’t ready or Best Buy wouldn’t have sent out a press release for pre-orders, included the phone in 3 of their weekly ads, and continued to inform customers of new “rumored” dates.  Clearly, someone up top got a little ahead of themselves, not understanding that something this new was bound to run into issues and now we are a full month into one of the longest running phone jokes of the last few years.

Maybe the luck of the Irish will bring us a treasure.

Via:  ZDNet

Cheers DBEvans!

  • Cinco

    Ugh. What a fail, glad I spent the last week telling all my friends and co-workers to forget what I said about waiting for this phone and just go get the Atrix or iphne. I still feel stupid for pumping up this Thunderbolt to everyone for the past three months, but glad I am finally over it. Just got my i4 and it is pretty sweet so I’m kind of happy now. And what is with the “but we said” and “as we promised” we will be releasing these LTE phones in the 1st half of 2011… are we that stupid? What about the countless times it has been said that it was going to be released in Q1? They are now pretending that all the TV, web and print ads, and CES reps meant 2-5 monts later when they said “comming soon” or it will be “released around march”. WEEEAAAK! FAIL!!!! I would love to see them come in at a $249-$299 price point so more people will boycott this failure.

    • http://twitter.com/SoDroid SoDroid

      I did the same thing. Friends and family often come to me for phone and gadget recommendations and I was telling everyone to wait for the Bolt since December (everyone equals 5 people). Everyone ditched the Bolt after I told them about the second ‘delay’ (I know the fact that its been ‘delayed’ is debatable) and they went with 2 D2G’s, an X, an iPhone 4 and one jumped ship to AT&T and got the Captivate. I can’t believe that the “dream phone after your dream phone” or whatever will be released into a market where it will be already behind.

      Verizon may not have stated a specific release date, but they’ve said soon since January. Its now two months later. I have no clue what their definition of soon is.

  • Mgangrock

    Well I hope Verizon knows if they release the Bolt by the end of the 2cnd quarter directly competing with the likes of the Bionic and others that the worth of the Bolt and its already out dated specs that they (verizon)won’t get away with charging $300 for a two yr contract..hell by then it will only be worth $100 at best.

  • KC

    “We are working through issues.” Translated: “We didn’t realize that our contract with A*ppl* stated we couldn’t have a major release near the time they had a major release, and we didn’t expect iPad2 to be announced so soon. So we will have the TB out as soon as the rate of iP@d2 sales start to decline…unless, of course, iPh*ne5 is announced by then.”

  • Sdouglas3673

    Has Verizon even thought of releasing the phone as a 3G device?? I’d be content with that until they get things resolved… my needs:
    HTC Sense
    4″ or 4″+ Screen
    Maybe the Incredible 2 will beat it to market??

  • RaptorOO7

    Sadly this will cost Verizon a lot of TB sales. I will still get one, the phone meets my needs, but by the time it launches the other 4G LTE phones will be on top of it, this means they have 4 phones to launch in the next 110 days, unless of course launching just ONE 4G LTE phone in by June 30th and the rest over the summer is what they intended, after iPhone 5 that is.

  • RaptorOO7

    Sadly this will cost Verizon a lot of TB sales. I will still get one, the phone meets my needs, but by the time it launches the other 4G LTE phones will be on top of it, this means they have 4 phones to launch in the next 110 days, unless of course launching just ONE 4G LTE phone in by June 30th and the rest over the summer is what they intended, after iPhone 5 that is.

  • RaptorOO7

    Sadly this will cost Verizon a lot of TB sales. I will still get one, the phone meets my needs, but by the time it launches the other 4G LTE phones will be on top of it, this means they have 4 phones to launch in the next 110 days, unless of course launching just ONE 4G LTE phone in by June 30th and the rest over the summer is what they intended, after iPhone 5 that is.

  • Badger 28

    Now there is no way that anyone would even have the chance of being grandfathered into unlimited data. That is the real plan.

  • RaptorOO7

    A company doesn’t start promoting a product that heavily if it’s not ready unless you are idiots. Its “coming soon” remark from Shamo @ Verizon should mean this quarter, but now this guy is trying to buy more time. If they truly expect to launch all 4 phones in the next 3 months they will have NOT have the sales they projected on the TB and could be looking at a loss on them.

  • DanSke

    Hmmm. I don’t think they could have stated that any more clearer. Phones not coming out till June. Thats all I need to move on. I can’t see how anyone would wait for this phone now. By that time we’ll probably have Bionic, Incredible 2, EVO 2, Nexus S 4G, Samsung Galaxy II, LG Optimus X2 / 3D or iphone 5 (if that floats your boat) to choose from or if not weeks away from launching. Can I hear an Amen?

  • madcustomer

    Phone got ran over by a cab back in November… been waiting for this phone ever since… battery life on my phone now doesn’t last 3 hours without dying. Thanks Verizon.

  • Anonymous

    Vz sucks

    • scadole

      agreed man…. what a downer. Now i’m contemplating buying a used Dinc to hold me over until the dual cores come out or maybe i’ll hop on over to sprint and get a Nexus S plus. I don’t know but i’m seriously disappointed. Now I have this stupid Tbolt skin and anti glare screen protectors that i’ll never use.

      I think it would be incredibly stupid for anyone to buy a Tbolt anywhere near June when all these dual cores will be available… namely a certain motorola phone with a 1950mah battery. I think all these new smartphones are going to be bad ass and really the most important things will be battery life and/or rootability. But the longer they wait to release the Tbolt, the more outdated it becomes.

      • Anonymous

        Boo Verizon for not releasing a phone with technical difficulties they’re such demons. /s

  • NewsWorthy

    This is the Droid Incredible Snafu all over again. That phone got pushed back so much till the Droid X stole all it’s sales. It appears the Thunderbolt will be pushed right into the lap of the Bionic if this continues.
    ~ Slim ~

  • NoooThundaaa

    How about releasing a 4G phone on a 3G network? You had no problem doing that with the Xoom. At this point I just need a new phone, my LG Dare is on its death bed. While I’m enjoying my new product, they can have their trained monkeys ramming square pegs into round holes to fix the LTE issue. At least they would hold up some of their promise and save what little customers they have for this product after this fail of a launch.

    • Happybains

      So funny..I have a LG dare and i’m waiting for this damn phone also.. I can’t use my Dare unless it’s plugged into a charger!!! I’m dying over here..lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brett-Vrancken/728616280 Brett Vrancken

    HOLY F***! BATMAN

  • jf

    I’m done waiting for Verizon 4G. I have a crappy personal cell phone and a work Blackberry that was getting me by. I’m going to sell my soul to the devil and go out and get an iPhone.

    • Tim242

      No you aren’t.

  • Anonymous

    Damn that fruit company for convincing Verizon to hold off on the availability of the 4G network! It’s all a conspiracy to sell iPad 2′s! Can’t anyone else see this?

  • Hoot352

    So theres still not a date that this phone is going to be coming out. CES they said end of first quarter. Now their saying end of second quarter with no specific dates. I can’t wait that long to get a new phone. Mine quit workin for me a month ago. Looks like I might be with AT&T for a while longer. I need a new phone!
    What do you guys suggest I go with?

    • Tim242

      The Inspire. I looked at it. It is very nice.

  • http://twitter.com/Jason13L Jason Lassourreille

    So I need advice. My OG Droid’s power/lock/unlock button is broken and my touch screen is starting to not accept inputs properly. Should I breakdown and get a cheap Droid X to hold me over or continue to fuss with my phone until the new stuff is launched sometime between now and Thanksgiving?

    • Hoot352

      I’m thinking of doing the same thing. Find a phone on ebay or amazon to hold me off cause my touch screen is doing the same thing. My phone won’t wait that long. I was pushing it waiting until the 10th. But I’m not waiting until end of 2nd quarter with my POS phone.

  • Firelight

    HTC has been running ads for this like crazy on TV & Cable. Especially expensively bought air time on NBA and NCAA Men’s Basketball games.

    For Verizon to essentially admit they’ll “get to it when they get to it. Everybody shut up until then” just makes HTC look like chumps and Best Buy like monkeys on typewriters.

    All this money spent to publicly market something ‘not ready’ when clearly there was an EXPECTATION of readiness from these partners – signals that VERIZON is not nearly as ready as they promised them (let alone the consumer chomping for this device).

  • Rimers20

    WEAK! f – ing WEAK!

  • Anonymous

    Wait, EVERYONE has been saying this whole time that the thunderbolt was due out before first quarter 2011, and that’s what Verizon said at ces. So what’s with the first half of 2011 in this statement? That mean we may not see this phone until end of june (end of Q2) ?
    BULL CRAP

    • LeeInMKE

      What they said at CES was: All of the phone seen here today will be available in the first half of this year, some as early as March. Even if the Thunderbolt is released March 17, they’ve STILL stuck to their word.

      • Anonymous

        I was under the impression it was the 1st Quarter, not Half, and I know I’m not the only one who thought that. (Im always willing to admit I could be wrong)

  • Panerai222

    2nd half of the fiscal year? That would be okay.

  • http://www.facebook.com/zkolev Zack Kolev

    HTC Thunderbolt: 4G fast, 2G slow ass release. sigh

  • http://twitter.com/DavisDarvish Davis Darvish

    What annoys me so much is if Verizon just came out and was very transparent about the issues with their 4G network and the TB, and simply announced when they think it MIGHT be available i would be a lot happier than them saying nothing.

  • Mgangrock

    what would be the point of waiting for the Bolt then??with the Bionic supposedly coming out in june,,july.As much as i wanted the Bolt seems kinda stupid to get it when Bionic will be so close to the Bolts launch.WOW!!! this Bolts launch and the news surrounding has gotten worse by the day,,if i were verizon i would just come out and scrap the hole thing its obvious that this hole Bolt thang is biting Verizon right in the behind as far as public opinion and image goes…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dan-Carter/500179789 Dan Carter

    Wow, sounds like they told HTC that they would be launching the Thunderbolt sometime around…..NOW…..but were talking out of their asses. I’m sure if HTC knew they wouldn’t have LTE ready for months, they would have prepared a better phone for Verizon. Now, Verizon just f-ed HTC and their Thunderbolt.

    A rehashed EVO on Verizon in 3 months or an EVO 2 on Sprint in a few weeks? The choice is obvious to me.

    Also, Verizon has be advertising their 4g network for weeks, if not months. What a crock of sh*t.

    • Anonymous

      The problem is the phone working with the 4G network, not the 4G network itself, so I’m sure HTC is very much involved with trying to get it fixed. The 4G network itself is working with the hotspots/modems that you’ve been seeing advertised for weeks, if not months, which you can buy from Verizon right now if you wanted to.

      • DanSke

        Still doesn’t excuse Verizon and HTC for not testing a product they said would work seamlessly on their “great” 4G network. I agree with Dan, Sprint seems better by the day, at least when they present a product, it gets a real date, no coming soon Tomfoolery BS.

        • Anonymous

          Oh I absolutely agree with that, the first Dan seemed to be blaming it entirely on Verizon, while we can’t really know that HTC is free of blame.

          • DanSke

            Very true. Unfortunately.

  • jake

    i really did think that no iphone would see anything but at&t until it could claim a title of the first LTE smartphone… ala the 3gs upgrade focusing on its speed boost in the actual processing, it could be a main highlight of the upgrades for 5th gen.. i was fairly stunned that they decided to roll out an iphone 4 on cdma 3g. perhaps there is some chance that something is delaying to give iphone a chance to launch as 4g, somewhat of an OEM battle perhaps.

  • Fredy

    I remember then saying Q1 at CES not before july

  • Eazy

    LOL T-Bolt anyone?

    In case you cant tell, that was sarcasm

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=25001493 Hank Godwin

    We need some new battery technology.

  • Heard It All Before

    First of all why would any one believe Best Buy? They don’t even know how to advertise properly on paper. Sad, Sad, Sad. I hope someone is marketing figures this out and stops listing to their kids at home who tell their parents I want the robot phone with a storm thingy and the parents think it’s a DROID.
    After all of that is done we can expect a text book responses from our CEO’s… “We are on track as planed” The first quarter is looking great for the product launch” Old news… We might as well be taking about Metro PCS and Walmart. Whenever they want to launch they will. And the stores are just as clueless as the rest of us.

    Heard It All Before

  • Anonymous

    The Thunderbolt is DOA

  • SoDroid

    Sounds pretty safe to say that the Tbolt won’t be out until April at the earliest. If they ‘could’ get it out in Q1 I’m sure he would’ve said something other than a number of 2nd quarter promises. But at this point I’d want to promise low and produce high if I were VZW. I’m not expecting this to hit shelves before April. I gave up and got a used X weeks ago. Sad, I was pretty excited for it, but its got other, better competition coming in Q2, and HTC will release info on the Pyramid in a few weeks at CTIA. I think this phone could’ve really shined but it will be behind the curve by June.

  • Jap

    Lets listen to the background noise people. Verizon never had this LTE network working properly in the first place, so in order to keep their loyal customers from running off to other 4G carriers (T-Mobile, Sprint) who actually got theirs running, conspired with Best Buy to pre sell the Bolt. This is a big conspiracy to keep us all in check. SHAME ON VERIZON

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=25001493 Hank Godwin

      T Mobile and Sprint don’t have real 4G networks. Go read.

      • misterdoon

        Sprint’s network isn’t LTE but it is a true 4G. T Mobile and AT&T are 3G(+)

        • Dom

          Let’s not do this again, chaps. 3.5G, 4G – semantics, isn’t it? We should be talking about features and speed. Simultaneous voice/data, __Mbps DL/UL speeds, Voice over LTE vs. CDMA, etc. I’m going to jump ship from Sprint’s 1-6Mbps “4G” to get a taste of what I think will be more widely available 6-14 Mbps “4G” and look forward to voice calls that don’t sound like mobile phone quality, but “right there” quality. What do think?

          • misterdoon

            can’t argue with that…

  • Anonymous

    If this delays my Bionic any further im going to be sooooo pissed off.

    • Bigdav1178

      No, iPhone 5 will delay the Bionic.

  • Rauladuran80

    Ok, no 4G phones for a while……how about some new 3G android phones? I am not planning on 4G until 2013 anyway. Verizon is getting to be quite lame.

    • Sdouglas3673

      I agree! What about the Incredible 2? If it has a 4.3″ screen and sense I’m in!

      • Tim242

        The Incresible “S” has a 4″ screen.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y7Q3GFOJEQRQQ4CTE2K26DMCFE elvis

    i just wish verizon would release A new phone already! i need a new one and i was holding out on the tbolt but since thats far from here im going for the next android device available, to be honest if the doucher phone 4 wasnt months old i probably would have got it

  • Kevoskee

    Second half is like december31st. sounds believable

  • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

    so march 31 lol who would get this junk now……oj mike242 would lol

    • Tim242

      Your stupidity shines again

  • Anonymous

    Translation:

    We’re looking forward to the announcement of the iPhon’t 5 before the second half of the year. After that, we’ll get back work on 4G LTE. We apologize for not completely understanding the ramifications of sleeping with Steve Jobs in advance. He’s really high-maintenance.

    • http://twitter.com/jbernard703 Jeff Bernard

      This has nothing to do with iPhone 5. iPhone 5 will more than likely not be LTE either. The technology is not ready for market consumption. There is no conspiracy.

      • Anonymous

        It will be. At&t already said they will roll out LTE mid-year. End of June = mid-year

        • http://twitter.com/jbernard703 Jeff Bernard

          what does at&t have to do with whether or not iphone 5 is lte?

    • angermeans

      aint that the truth. Enough with the apple favortism Verizon you got to where you are without carrying the iphone. Now don’t go showing favortism as all that droid money you earned from motorola and HTC this last year will go over to sprint, att,and tmo without the droid moniker.

    • Anonymous

      Its funny because just yesterday Kellex was blaming it on the iPad launch. Whats next?

    • Dlcj21

      Apple has already released a statement that said the iphone 5 will not be built with LTE technology. The iphone 6 will built with LTE technology and that won’t be available until 2012. If you’re a verizon customer and want the iphone you might as well purchase the iphone4 or wait for the iphone5 as it should have better hardware and a bigger screen if those rumors are true, but don’t hold out for the iphone5 because you think it’ll have LTE technology, it won’t.

  • Anonymous

    The new 4G game ought to be interesting. I would love to see someone like T-Mo or Sprint knock Verizon and/or AT&T off of their “top-tier” block, just for competition’s sake (and, if T-Mobile and Spring merge, which is possible right now, this could be a reality). It would be nice to have more than one good carrier (Verizon) and one decent carrier (AT&T), and for Verizon to have to compete on both price and network.

  • Greg

    So they paid all of that money for all of those 4g LTE mobile ads and it’s not even available. Can’t wait to see Tmobile’s commercial about this one.

  • Anonymous

    Your overlord Jobs has decided iPhone 5 will be the first LTE phone now. All other concerns are secondary. Sorry Kiddos.

    • http://twitter.com/annduhroo Andrew LeMasters

      If that actually turns out to be true, that will be a stab in the back for both Androidians and HTC.

      • Anonymous

        I actually meant it sarcastically (obvious?) but I am with you, if it somehow does…….YIKES.

  • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

    yea to many problwms with this phone where theres smoke theres fire

    • Tim242

      and your precious bionic would work great, eh? It’s a new tech, you idiot. HTC actually has 4G phones on the market, Moto doesn’t. Your stupidity shines again. Did you check out Grindr yet?

      • Anonymous

        Let’s take it down a notch, we’re all friends here.

        • Tim242

          Brian has been pissing on people and HTC for too long.

          • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

            really where theres smoke theres fire your that big of a fanboy to crack like that comon none of these companies pay you so why you in bed with htc? just admit your precious htc messed up and for you to still be sticking up for them proves a lot to me that you are not a rational person and cant have a difference odf opinion when it comes to this stuff grow up buddy

          • Tim242

            HTC did not mess up anything. If you took the time to read the article, it’s
            issues with Lte in general, not HTC. I hope for your sake they get worked
            out before the Bluronic comes out. If not, itmay be enough to send you over
            the edge. You seem to be quite unstable.

          • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

            Haha its a phone kid grow up your life doesn’t depend on this and who said I was getting the bionic…. I never said that I think the bionic will be a way better phone then this one but so will the rest of dual cores I’m sorry I struck a nerve with you me unstable your the one that points me out every blog maybe you have a crush or something :-)

          • Tim242

            You said you were waiting on the bluronic…many times. Nobody would blame
            you if you have changed your mind. As far as the crush, you’d have to be a
            bit nicer and have better taste, then we could talk : )

  • Calidog50

    Thank you Kellex for keeping us informed! I give up on my “Dream Phone”!!

  • Calidog50

    Thank you Kellex for keeping us informed! I give up on my “Dream Phone”!!

  • Anonymous

    Anyone want to buy a $50 best buy gift certificate from me? Looks like I’ll be looking elsewhere for my first Android phone.

    • http://twitter.com/annduhroo Andrew LeMasters

      I’ll take it…

      • Anonymous

        you can return it to the store you know for a refund. all you are doing is canceling your pre-order. FYI… since you pre-ordered the phone, they are still going to honor the 249.99 price. ($200 more out of your pocket for 250 total) it’s 299.99 otherwise.

        • Dom

          With no date and a few prices out there, might be a tad early to be calling prices as you are. As much as I want this phone and am chomping at the bit for it, I AM really enjoying the catastrophic job that Verizon is doing with their communications. The way it’s going down is suiting absolutely no one – Verizon included.

          • Anonymous

            let’s just say I know things… Kellex has some friends that leak things regularly. This will come out soon enough.

          • http://twitter.com/binglut9 Brian

            If u know please share

    • http://twitter.com/annduhroo Andrew LeMasters

      I’ll take it…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000106808261 Keith Sumner

    first

    • Anonymous

      Actually I was. Sorry.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000106808261 Keith Sumner

        dang nug it said zero comments when I posted mine, want to share in a tie for firsT? It says we both posted 6 mins ago.

        • Anonymous

          No, I don’t want to share. I have tiger blood in my veins and addonis dna. WINNING! Choose “Oldest First” and I am clearly at the top. SCOREBOARD DON”T LIE!

          Sorry, I just took too many hits of Charlie Sheen. I’m better now. But I was still first :)

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000106808261 Keith Sumner

            ..I won’t forget this……

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000106808261 Keith Sumner

            =D

    • http://twitter.com/RaymondK RaymondK

      You’re a douche bag.

  • Anonymous

    If you’re really quiet you can hear the sound of thousands of Android fanboys weeping, and Steve Jobs cackling through his respirator, followed up by an “excellent” in his best Mr. Burns voice.

    • Anonymous

      Because, you know, the iPhone is already 4G, like the Evo 4G, Epic 4G, Evo Shift 4G, G2, MyTouch 4G, Galaxy S 4G, Atrix, and coming Nexus S 4G.

      Oh, wait, they forgot a “G” after the “4″ on the iPhone.

      • Jhs Personal

        I’m fairly certain that non of those use LTE, which is new technology for Verizon and anyone else in the US.

        • http://twitter.com/jbernard703 Jeff Bernard

          You are correct. There are no LTE phones on the market. They kill battery life and they are not going to release a phone with 4 hours of battery.

          • Anonymous

            4G LTE is going to be re-branded as 4H LTE. :P

          • kw

            actually Metro PCS has a 4G LTE phone…… go figure

          • kw

            actually Metro PCS has a 4G LTE phone…… go figure

      • Anonymous

        I think the Iphone 4 is just as much 4G as the rest of the AT&T “4G” phones from the speed test numbers I’ve seen.

        • Anonymous

          You’re wrong if you think the iphone 4 is a 4G phone. It’s never even been branded as a 4G phone. AT&T doesn’t even have a real 4G network.

          • Anonymous

            thanks for repeating his point with different words… :/

          • Anonymous

            Try comprehending when you read. My point is that none of AT&T phones are 4g as demonstrated by their speeds (or lack thereof).

          • Anonymous

            My bad. Have a good day. :)

          • Anonymous

            My bad. Have a good day. :)

          • Anonymous

            Try comprehending when you read. My point is that none of AT&T phones are 4g as demonstrated by their speeds (or lack thereof).

          • http://www.brandongoodman.com/ Brandon Goodman

            You’re missing the point evltwn. Obviously the iPhone 4 has never been branded or marketed as 4G but the joke is that all those other allegedly 4G phones on HSPA are not really 4G either so they might as well call the iPhone 4 a 4G phone too since its on the same falsely advertised 4G AT&T network…

          • Anonymous

            I already acknowledged I read his comment wrong, read above. But thanks for pointing it out again.

          • http://www.brandongoodman.com/ Brandon Goodman

            Didn’t mean to sound like an ass. Many of the other replies didn’t show for me when I replied to you.

      • Mr. Joe

        Is it just me or is vzw the only carrier not putting 4G at the end of all their devices?

        • angermeans

          its because sprint and vzw are the only ones that will hav real 4G. Att and Tmo are calling their HSPA+ a 4G technology when it def is not. They may get somewhere between 3G and 4G speeds but still not 4G. Many many many Atrix and inspire owners are going to be upset later this year when att launches their actual 4G LTE and their phones are not compatible with it.

          • Anonymous

            According to ITU-T HSPA+ and LTE are both similar techs in regards to what G they are considered. LTE-Advanced is true 4G which isn’t what Verizon is rolling out initially.
            My point is not to feed the who is better battle, but to remind everyone we’re not really even at 4G yet so let’s all just relax a little and wait to get beamed up.

    • Anonymous

      As he sits in his deathstar with his robe and wrinkley skin, he says in a raspy voice “Good… Good….”