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Google Voice Update Possibly Kills Unlimited Calling Trick?

One of our readers has pointed out that there is an update to Google Voice right now in the market, but it’s one you might want hold off from grabbing if you have been using GV to get unlimited free calls through your carrier.

The new update includes an assignment of “direct access numbers” to each call you make…

Until today, the Google Voice app had to make a request to the Google Voice server every time you wanted to make a call to send us the phone number you wanted to dial. Then the call would be connected via a Google Voice access number. With direct access numbers, we assign a unique phone number to every person you call. This means that we no longer need to use your data network to access the server each time you make a call, so calls will be placed much faster.

In theory, this means your outgoing call number will be different each time you make a call and will no longer allow you to place a dedicated one into your favorites list through your carrier.  This would remove your ability to place unlimited calls.

Is that really true though?

Tech pros, weigh in!

Source:  Google Mobile Blog

Cheers Dave!

  • Chuck Yeager

    There are a number of problems with Cell Service and the way services are charged:

    – Voice = Data
    – Texting = Data
    – Data = Data

    It is all data yet something as pathetic as texting still costs like $150 a year – redonkulous!

    Cell companies are simply another ISP providing data, except they are somehow able to charge us as if something other than data is being transfered around. When it comes to voice there is a small fee charged by the phone companies to use their switches and lines. Google found a way to negate that fee and provides a data path to the Google Voice service.

    When I am using Google Voice it is only data traveling on the Cell ISP's service.

    IT is all DATA!

  • Chuck Yeager

    There are a number of problems with Cell Service and the way services are charged:

    – Voice = Data
    – Texting = Data
    – Data = Data

    It is all data yet something as pathetic as texting still costs like $150 a year – redonkulous!

    Cell companies are simply another ISP providing data, except they are somehow able to charge us as if something other than data is being transfered around. When it comes to voice there is a small fee charged by the phone companies to use their switches and lines. Google found a way to negate that fee and provides a data path to the Google Voice service.

    When I am using Google Voice it is only data traveling on the Cell ISP's service.

    IT is all DATA!

  • Idunno

    OK all you geniuses – first you couldn't have gone off on more tangents if you tried. I can't believe that I'm actually going to add to this mess.

    Second, while quick to make a point about cheating or stealing service from the phone company, why hasn't anyone pointed out the fact that one doesn't have to be spoiled or trying to cheat the phone company to be upset at the fact that the new GV app breaks the perfectly legitimate F&F setups that we used for a long time (by not dialing the number for our F&F member but a different relay number)

    and Finally – has anyone read the announcement carefully? If the excerpt I have is correct – “With direct access numbers, we assign a unique phone number to every person you call. This means that we no longer need to use your data network to access the server each time you make a call, so calls will be placed much faster.”, and is it accurate to infer that this in fact will repair the broken F&F situation by consistently dialing a different, BUT CONSISTENT relay number for each of our contacts?? I haven't studied my bill yet, but I'm hoping that the fix is to just replace my old F&F numbers with the corresponding relay numbers.

    Has anyone else seen it this way or been able to make this work?

  • Idunno

    OK all you geniuses – first you couldn't have gone off on more tangents if you tried. I can't believe that I'm actually going to add to this mess.

    Second, while quick to make a point about cheating or stealing service from the phone company, why hasn't anyone pointed out the fact that one doesn't have to be spoiled or trying to cheat the phone company to be upset at the fact that the new GV app breaks the perfectly legitimate F&F setups that we used for a long time (by not dialing the number for our F&F member but a different relay number)

    and Finally – has anyone read the announcement carefully? If the excerpt I have is correct – “With direct access numbers, we assign a unique phone number to every person you call. This means that we no longer need to use your data network to access the server each time you make a call, so calls will be placed much faster.”, and is it accurate to infer that this in fact will repair the broken F&F situation by consistently dialing a different, BUT CONSISTENT relay number for each of our contacts?? I haven't studied my bill yet, but I'm hoping that the fix is to just replace my old F&F numbers with the corresponding relay numbers.

    Has anyone else seen it this way or been able to make this work?

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  • Seth J Fischer

    No where did I read when I signed up for cell service through Verizon: “It is OK to add any number to your friends and family, EXCEPT your Google Voice number.” I searched and I cannot find anywhere (maybe someone else will) where adding your Google Voice number violates Verizon terms. Note what Verizon itself says below. I seriously doubt Verizon didn't know people were doing this, if they did and didn't like it… why not specify that in their terms of agreement? They probably don't like it, but they didn't say you couldn't do it. My point? The people that were using this where doing something that was legitimate and not against anything I can find that violates Verizon terms, Verizon had to have known people were doing it and said nothing nor changed what they consider acceptable numbers for Friends & Family. The people using this weren't engaged in some sort of shady activity.

    What type of numbers can I add to Friends & Family?
    Your Friends & Family list can contain any valid U.S. number as well as any 800-type number, including 888, 866 and 877 (excluding 800-555-1212). Your Friends & Family list can not include directory assistance, 900-type numbers, your own wireless number or voice mail access number, or numbers from Canada, Mexico, Puerto Rico & US Virgin Islands.

  • Whatever

    Waaaa for Verizon – all you moaning do you even realize we are only maybe saving or cheating (depending on how you look at it) $10. To accomplish this “rip-off” you need the minimum plan of “Pick 10 friends” + Data which is $89 a month. The unlimited plan + Data is $99 a month which accomplishes the same thing. ** Let us bask in our glory of saving $10 a month and stop being such a corporate suck up**

    My dollars may not be 100% accurate but should be close.

  • takeshi

    You do realize that Google != your carrier, right? “They” didn't catch on and change anything.

  • takeshi

    Personally, I'm not seeing a different access number used for each contact. All outbound calls use the same access number with GV 0.4.

  • StephanC

    I am using it with Gizmo5. I haven't had an issue yet.

  • DigiK

    It's now safe to 'upgrade'; here's the workaround: The app below integrates with the GV dialer, automagically dialing your GV#, then dialing & connecting the call. Simply add your GV# to FnF. More elegant anyway since there are no games of musical chairs with access numbers. Make sure you take a second and thank the dev. =)

    http://code.google.com/p/gvmynumber/downloads/d

  • DigiK

    It's now safe to 'upgrade'; here's the workaround: The app below integrates with the GV dialer, automagically dialing your GV#, then dialing & connecting the call. Simply add your GV# to FnF. More elegant anyway since there are no games of musical chairs with access numbers. Make sure you take a second and thank the dev. =)

    http://code.google.com/p/gvmynumber/downloads/d

  • Andrew Hewitt

    This whole argument is pure treasure.

  • AnonymousProblem

    I agree 100%. I also find it funny that Papawiskas talks about how you remain anonymous, but he's just as anonymous as you are!

    Anyway, these people complain and whine when they don't get everything they want, when they want, and for free, just like children! Ugh so pathetic.

    Phones are a 1-time fee.
    Data plans are DATA PLANS. For people who follow this blog, you should know that.
    Apps are not a requirement, they are a luxury. Plus they're a 1-time fee. No one is forcing you to buy them.
    The insurance is for your phone. No one forced you to buy it.

    Then there's that guy who talked about VOIP. Haha, what?! VOIP is not the same as using someone's cell phone towers. It's a different protocol. Seriously get a grip.

    If you can't afford a cell phone, then you shouldn't have one.

    Agreed. All of these people complaining are just a bunch of self-important brats.