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Google Voice Update Possibly Kills Unlimited Calling Trick?

One of our readers has pointed out that there is an update to Google Voice right now in the market, but it’s one you might want hold off from grabbing if you have been using GV to get unlimited free calls through your carrier.

The new update includes an assignment of “direct access numbers” to each call you make…

Until today, the Google Voice app had to make a request to the Google Voice server every time you wanted to make a call to send us the phone number you wanted to dial. Then the call would be connected via a Google Voice access number. With direct access numbers, we assign a unique phone number to every person you call. This means that we no longer need to use your data network to access the server each time you make a call, so calls will be placed much faster.

In theory, this means your outgoing call number will be different each time you make a call and will no longer allow you to place a dedicated one into your favorites list through your carrier.  This would remove your ability to place unlimited calls.

Is that really true though?

Tech pros, weigh in!

Source:  Google Mobile Blog

Cheers Dave!

  • Chuck Yeager

    There are a number of problems with Cell Service and the way services are charged:

    – Voice = Data
    – Texting = Data
    – Data = Data

    It is all data yet something as pathetic as texting still costs like $150 a year – redonkulous!

    Cell companies are simply another ISP providing data, except they are somehow able to charge us as if something other than data is being transfered around. When it comes to voice there is a small fee charged by the phone companies to use their switches and lines. Google found a way to negate that fee and provides a data path to the Google Voice service.

    When I am using Google Voice it is only data traveling on the Cell ISP's service.

    IT is all DATA!

  • Chuck Yeager

    There are a number of problems with Cell Service and the way services are charged:

    – Voice = Data
    – Texting = Data
    – Data = Data

    It is all data yet something as pathetic as texting still costs like $150 a year – redonkulous!

    Cell companies are simply another ISP providing data, except they are somehow able to charge us as if something other than data is being transfered around. When it comes to voice there is a small fee charged by the phone companies to use their switches and lines. Google found a way to negate that fee and provides a data path to the Google Voice service.

    When I am using Google Voice it is only data traveling on the Cell ISP's service.

    IT is all DATA!

  • Idunno

    OK all you geniuses – first you couldn't have gone off on more tangents if you tried. I can't believe that I'm actually going to add to this mess.

    Second, while quick to make a point about cheating or stealing service from the phone company, why hasn't anyone pointed out the fact that one doesn't have to be spoiled or trying to cheat the phone company to be upset at the fact that the new GV app breaks the perfectly legitimate F&F setups that we used for a long time (by not dialing the number for our F&F member but a different relay number)

    and Finally – has anyone read the announcement carefully? If the excerpt I have is correct – “With direct access numbers, we assign a unique phone number to every person you call. This means that we no longer need to use your data network to access the server each time you make a call, so calls will be placed much faster.”, and is it accurate to infer that this in fact will repair the broken F&F situation by consistently dialing a different, BUT CONSISTENT relay number for each of our contacts?? I haven't studied my bill yet, but I'm hoping that the fix is to just replace my old F&F numbers with the corresponding relay numbers.

    Has anyone else seen it this way or been able to make this work?

  • Idunno

    OK all you geniuses – first you couldn't have gone off on more tangents if you tried. I can't believe that I'm actually going to add to this mess.

    Second, while quick to make a point about cheating or stealing service from the phone company, why hasn't anyone pointed out the fact that one doesn't have to be spoiled or trying to cheat the phone company to be upset at the fact that the new GV app breaks the perfectly legitimate F&F setups that we used for a long time (by not dialing the number for our F&F member but a different relay number)

    and Finally – has anyone read the announcement carefully? If the excerpt I have is correct – “With direct access numbers, we assign a unique phone number to every person you call. This means that we no longer need to use your data network to access the server each time you make a call, so calls will be placed much faster.”, and is it accurate to infer that this in fact will repair the broken F&F situation by consistently dialing a different, BUT CONSISTENT relay number for each of our contacts?? I haven't studied my bill yet, but I'm hoping that the fix is to just replace my old F&F numbers with the corresponding relay numbers.

    Has anyone else seen it this way or been able to make this work?

  • ajavgeek
  • Seth J Fischer

    No where did I read when I signed up for cell service through Verizon: “It is OK to add any number to your friends and family, EXCEPT your Google Voice number.” I searched and I cannot find anywhere (maybe someone else will) where adding your Google Voice number violates Verizon terms. Note what Verizon itself says below. I seriously doubt Verizon didn't know people were doing this, if they did and didn't like it… why not specify that in their terms of agreement? They probably don't like it, but they didn't say you couldn't do it. My point? The people that were using this where doing something that was legitimate and not against anything I can find that violates Verizon terms, Verizon had to have known people were doing it and said nothing nor changed what they consider acceptable numbers for Friends & Family. The people using this weren't engaged in some sort of shady activity.

    What type of numbers can I add to Friends & Family?
    Your Friends & Family list can contain any valid U.S. number as well as any 800-type number, including 888, 866 and 877 (excluding 800-555-1212). Your Friends & Family list can not include directory assistance, 900-type numbers, your own wireless number or voice mail access number, or numbers from Canada, Mexico, Puerto Rico & US Virgin Islands.

  • Whatever

    Waaaa for Verizon – all you moaning do you even realize we are only maybe saving or cheating (depending on how you look at it) $10. To accomplish this “rip-off” you need the minimum plan of “Pick 10 friends” + Data which is $89 a month. The unlimited plan + Data is $99 a month which accomplishes the same thing. ** Let us bask in our glory of saving $10 a month and stop being such a corporate suck up**

    My dollars may not be 100% accurate but should be close.

  • takeshi

    You do realize that Google != your carrier, right? “They” didn't catch on and change anything.

  • takeshi

    Personally, I'm not seeing a different access number used for each contact. All outbound calls use the same access number with GV 0.4.

  • StephanC

    I am using it with Gizmo5. I haven't had an issue yet.

  • DigiK

    It's now safe to 'upgrade'; here's the workaround: The app below integrates with the GV dialer, automagically dialing your GV#, then dialing & connecting the call. Simply add your GV# to FnF. More elegant anyway since there are no games of musical chairs with access numbers. Make sure you take a second and thank the dev. =)

    http://code.google.com/p/gvmynumber/downloads/d

  • DigiK

    It's now safe to 'upgrade'; here's the workaround: The app below integrates with the GV dialer, automagically dialing your GV#, then dialing & connecting the call. Simply add your GV# to FnF. More elegant anyway since there are no games of musical chairs with access numbers. Make sure you take a second and thank the dev. =)

    http://code.google.com/p/gvmynumber/downloads/d

  • Andrew Hewitt

    This whole argument is pure treasure.

  • AnonymousProblem

    I agree 100%. I also find it funny that Papawiskas talks about how you remain anonymous, but he's just as anonymous as you are!

    Anyway, these people complain and whine when they don't get everything they want, when they want, and for free, just like children! Ugh so pathetic.

    Phones are a 1-time fee.
    Data plans are DATA PLANS. For people who follow this blog, you should know that.
    Apps are not a requirement, they are a luxury. Plus they're a 1-time fee. No one is forcing you to buy them.
    The insurance is for your phone. No one forced you to buy it.

    Then there's that guy who talked about VOIP. Haha, what?! VOIP is not the same as using someone's cell phone towers. It's a different protocol. Seriously get a grip.

    If you can't afford a cell phone, then you shouldn't have one.

    Agreed. All of these people complaining are just a bunch of self-important brats.

  • anon

    I've now spent hours reading on this and still don't understand why it's now not free to make calls with the update. Can someone break it down point for point for me so I can understand?

    • anon

      Because saving the 402 number, isn't that like the direct access number thing?

  • Snsmom1

    Verizon wasn't allowing mine free anyway, sooo. i don't feel bad

  • WayneGrayson

    Okay, since I have a spare Android phone on me, I downloaded the update to Google Voice and dialed my work number. On the call ID, my Google Voice number popped up just like it always does. Has anyone else tested it? Because it does dial much faster and as far as I can see it still displays your GV number in call ID. This seems like a whole lot of freakout for nothing.

  • dannydarko

    I don't care one way or the other its still a much cheaper way to make calls. But that's what back-ups are for . The GVDialer app works great too.

  • Its enough we pay for our cell phone bills and everything little extra thing that is added on, but now we dont deserve a break. I mean, as opposed to daddy paying your bill right? Go run and get your allowance you dweeb!

    • Gest

      See my reply above to the other guy who feels the way you do. Oh, I pay my own bill, my parent's bill, and my sister's bill. It was $200 this month, and $190 last month.

      Even if I was only paying my own bill (which is $50/month) I would be more than happy to do it. You know why? Because I knew that was what I was getting myself into when I purchased the phone/data plan. Nice try, though.

  • krkelly

    Can anyone tell me exactly what the old workaround for free calling is/was? I have been wanting to do this for awhile, but now it appears I won't be able to do it anyway. Still, I'm curious what the process is for that nifty little trick. — Moto Droid on VZW running Froyo (if that's necessary to know).

  • I have a question. I currently work in Connecticut but have have a NY Verizon number. I got Google Voice so that I could have a number to give people that had a local area code versus my NY area code that always made them stop and ask me to repeat myself. My droid is the only phone I have (no land line) so I was planning on using GV as a 2nd line (to make outgoing & receiving work-related phone calls). Will this update in anyway effect me? Im more concerned about my GV number coming up on their Caller I.D. then anything else.

  • Spencer

    We pay enough for out phones. Just because you are a snotty jealous person doesn't mean that you need to try and act tough. You just wish that you had an android phone. So go ahead and be an ahole when you have a windows phone.

    • Guest

      What? Are you 12? I have an Android phone. The Incredible. I pay for my bill, my parents bill, and my sister's bill, because I make enough money to do so.

      I'm far from jealous. I'm simply calling out a bunch of pathetic people who expect everything to be handed to them for free and who are cheating the system.

  • People still talk on phones?

    • not a guest

      win

  • I barely use the phone to talk on anyways. This matters very little to me one way or another.

  • WhereIsTony

    Plot thickens it appears Google Voice numbers are being removed from friends and family list.

    • LTE

      Source? Anyone else seeing this?
      I would go unlimited talk/text but for 4 lines it's like $300+/mo just too much!

      • Guest

        If you can't afford it, then don't buy it. Simple as that.

  • Pilotcharles747

    trolling..

    google knew what they were doing when they were advertising call being “free” through gv. They were wanting people to flock to them in order to save minutes. I use gv, and I tell everyone I can about gv.

    • Guest

      I'm not trolling. I genuinely believe that when you complain about how your cheating the system doesn't work, you're a self-important brat.

  • DigiK

    This is akin to saying VOIP clients are unethical because I'm using data to make free calls. I would argue the reverse is true, which is a tenant of net neutrality. No need to frame those of us who have been using GV as a quasi-VOIP tunnel as being unscrupulous or unethical; and furthermore, you should not make inferences or unqualified statements about others' plans or usage here.

    FYI, I now carry a Nationwide Talk/Text 1400 minute plan with two data plans. I'm sharing minutes between four users who all call unique numbers. I pay Verizon ~$400 a month for Fios TV, internet, and wireless services. I have every right to use legal means at my disposal to ensure that I'm not creeping up into the overage territory by using GV on my phone.

    • Guest

      VOIP and cell-tower protocols are not comparable. You're 100 percent wrong about that. Google Voice doesn't use VOIP to make your free phone calls, they use cell-towers.

      If you can't afford your toys, then don't buy them. It's that simple. You don't see me complaining because I can't cheat the system to get free gasoline on my car…hell, I pay a lot for the car, insurance, upkeep, maintenance, I should be entitled to free gas, right?!? No.

      • DigiK

        Guest, seriously improve your reading comprehension; I was analogizing. Google is providing point-to-point call tunneling at no additional charge to end users, which is very much akin to how VOIP can provide cheaper calling. As a subscriber, I have the right to list ANY telephone number in the United States whether it be a family, friends, businesses, hookers, or robots. I use Google Voice as a safety net, not because I'm trying to pull one over on my provider or can't afford my service. Nothing unethical or unscrupulous about it. How dare any of you for imply we don't have the right to save money where possible.

        End users are upset because a service which still exists just became a little bit less convenient to use for tenuous reasons at best.

        • thecrazing

          Sort of. Except, you're still using the cellular bandwidth, which is the major cost of the call. The VOIP-vs-landline doesn't really hold water anymore, because the efficiency of the IP protocol over regular phoneline switches isn't really the issue with phone calls. Verizon 'owns' a very small slice of spectrum, and how they balance that sliver of spectrum is really where they make their bottom line. The Friends and Family program is predicated on the fact that not _all_ of your calls will be unlimited minutes, and thats why it's cheaper than an unlimited voice plan.

          Put it this way, there's nothing really unethical or unscrupulous about Google helping their partner, Verizon, maintain the integrity of their calling plan tiers, and 'how dare any of you imply' Verizon doesn't have the right to enforce the spirit of their plans.

        • Guest

          You are the one who needs to gain some comprehension, friend. VOIP does not equal Cellular Service. Are you unable to follow this basic idea?

          Google still uses cell service to make your calls when it's done on your cell phone.

    • thecrazing

      And they have every right to use legal means to protect their profits.

      I mean, let's be honest. Does it suck when a loophole gets closed, for those using the loophole? Sure.

      But everyone who was using GVoice + Friends and Family to get Friends and Family style free minutes to _every single person_.. You knew you were outsmarting the system. That was part of the point of doing it.

      Think of it this way. If every single person on Verizon was able to get Friends and Family calling to an unlimited number of people, then Verizon would not have the money to maintain the flatout, hands down best network in the US. It would collectively suck for all of us if a majority of users found this loophole, and though it's bitter medicine, it's better this way.

      • Guest

        Exactly! Great point!

      • taco

        By “all of us” I presume you mean the Verizon CEOs. Yes, I can see how it would suck for them to have to reduce their ridiculous paychecks a bit. Oh wait, they would sooner fire off their workforce than give up any of their profit. That, I suppose, would be bad for the economy. Yes, now I understand how it ends up hurting us collectively. The fault, however, lies not with the people saving money. It lies with the people who are stealing and hoarding all the money.

  • Srbhfco

    ahole

    • Guest

      Wow. Your argument was so deep and logical that I don't even know how to counter it. I concede to your intellect and wit.

      • Not a Guest

        Yay sarcasm!

        • Guest

          No…really!?

  • Being given everything wouldn't be so bad…

    • Guest

      I agree 🙂

      Too bad that's not how life works though, huh? :-p

  • Diverge

    I'm pretty sure this blog article, and the way a lot of google voice users think google voice works is wrong.

    Previously, when you used your google voice # and dialed out, it basically used a switch board to connect you to the # you were dialing. The number it would use to dial out would vary based on some variables (location, load, ?? )… go look at your detailed bills and you'll see weird #'s on it that google uses to dial out.

    Putting your google # into friends and family didn't really work for unlimited calling, cause google didn't use your google # to dial out, it used a # that can vary. So unless you put a bunch of those varying #'s into friends and family, you were never getting unlimited calling.

    All this applies to the old way, and dialing out. The only way to truely get unlimited with their old method was to use a non-official google app that would use the net version of google voice (over data) and call your party, and then your google voice # to join you to your party. This basically turns an outgoing call into an incoming call, circumventing the google voice outgoing switchboard.

    Now they are saying they are giving you one dialout # (no more varying switchboard #'s)… so now all you'd need to do is add that number to friends and family and you'd really get unlimited calling.

    TLDR = This change is good, not bad!

    • The_Other_Ray

      I've had unlimited outgoing calls by placing the GV access number into my friends and family plan. I've had my Droid since March and the access number would end with 3466 would always show up whenever I made a call. Then, about a few weeks ago, the access number changed to 0100 at the end so for about 3 months, it stayed that single access number until just recently.

      On My Verizon app, it shows my outgoing phone call minutes that I have used for the last month and it was only at 5 minutes out of 1400 minutes. So far, it's been about 3 weeks and it has been dialing the access number with the 0100 which I have added to my friends and family plan. So, having it change every 3 months or so is fine with me. Having it change with every phone call is too much.

    • Diverge

      Yep, I'm replying to myself… seems i miss-read how it now works. Didn't realize it assigned a different fixed # to each unique # dialed. I read it as a fixed # period..oh well, working 13+ hours a day does that to you.

      I don't really talk on my phone anyway :p

  • Myk Robinson

    Screw it… I just upgraded my family plan to unlimited talk. It was only an extra $30 per month, and I use the Google Voice number for texting and its also my business number. I'd rather pay $30 than get hit with a nasty overage fee..

  • I guess it's okay. I barely use my phone for actual calls anyway. Bummer for those who do, though.

  • Papawiskas

    We are paying enough in cellphone fees, the phones themselves, the data plan, the apps, the insurance…
    oh, and who are you again?

    It is so much easier to scold the brats when you remain anonymous isn't it?

    Step off…

    • Guest

      How are you not anonymous, kiddo?

      Phones are a 1-time charge. Sometimes, they're actually FREE under contract. You seriously think that entitles you to free phone calls forever? You do realize that it actually costs money to maintain a cell tower system, right?

      Imagine this scenario: you get a free phone with 2-year contract. You get free Google Voice. You don't use apps/data plans (it's a luxury, idiot. If you can't afford it, then don't use it). You don't have insurance because your phone was free, you are careful, and you don't really care (you can get another crappy phone with Google Voice for $50).

      So if that's the situation, you have everything for free. Free calls, free phone, etc.

      You're a BRAT for complaining that everything isn't given to you free. 20 years ago, people would have paid $500 a month EASILY for the kinds of things we get on our smartphones today. You just take it for granted and act like a child when you don't get your way.

      Sad.

      • taco

        Fool of a sheep. You really believe what you’re saying, don’t you?

    • Guest

      What about your car?

      You paid for the car (phone).
      You pay for upkeep and addons (data plan/maintenance/apps).
      You pay for insurance (insurance).

      Does that entitle you to free gas for life? No. You know why? Because you bought the car knowing full well what it meant. Complaining because you can't cheat the system is pathetic, whether it's cars or phones.

      • DigiK

        Users are protesting because the service just became more inconvenient to use; not because free calling via GV no longer exists. This could have easily been implemented as a user option by Goog.

        If you think of it in terms of the free market, Google is essentially proving that carriers are basically nickel-and-diming consumers, because Google can tunnel a call point-to-point domestically and do it without incurring any additional charges to the end-user outside of minutes used to call the access number. As a subscriber, I have the right to list ANY telephone number in the United States whether it be a family, friends, businesses, hookers, or robots. I use Google Voice as a safety net, not because I'm trying to pull one over on my provider or can't afford my service. Nothing unethical or unscrupulous about it. How dare any of you for imply we don't have the right to save money where possible.

        • Guest

          >Users are protesting because the service just became more inconvenient to use; not because free calling via GV no longer exists

          Really? You really believe that? I'm sorry, but you need to look around. People are complaining because they are no longer able to get their free calls through F&F by cheating the system.

          Would you like me to point out a few examples of these people?

          >I use Google Voice as a safety net, not because I'm trying to pull one over on my provider or can't afford my service.

          You're simply rewording it. You're cheating the system. It absolutely is unethical. If you can't afford a cell phone, then don't get one.

        • Guest

          You still didn't answer my analogy about cars. Are you entitled to free gas because cars are too expensive?

      • Poorverizon

        If I can find a way to alter my car to get it to use less gas then I have a right to do so; In fact if I buy a car a can alter it any way I see fit and the car company could give sh## less other than voiding my warranty. Why not the same with my cell phone that I so “called bought”.

        Whaaaaa for Verizon which reported that profits increased 31 percent to $1.67 billion in June 2010.

        I get your point but your analogy is idiotic.

        • Guest

          I didn't say “use less gas,” now did I, champ? I said FREE GAS. Try to stay on topic here. By all means, modify your phone to use less battery, be more efficient, etc (that's the analogy you mistakenly screwed up.) However, getting FREE CALLS is a whole different story altogether.

          You are trying to get FREE CALLS FOR LIFE FOR EVERYTHING FOREVER.

          Then you complain when you can't get them?

          That's called being a self-important brat.

          You threw out Verizon's profits. You know what profits come from? Not people like you, that's for sure. You rape Verizon of their profits and then are probably the very first person to whine when Verizon doesn't have the funding to update their cell tower system to 4G in your area or calls are dropped or customer service is outsourced or prices go up.

          It's your fault.

          Welcome to the real world…where you actually PAY for services. If you can't afford it, then don't buy it. Having a cell phone is a luxury, you brat.

          • Joe0102

            Your a real dick!

  • Papawiskas

    Ok I just did some testing dialing the number manually…sorry for those that already understand it, but I am someone who has to see it and monkey with it.
    First I am on a Droid, SS Chevy Froyo Mod.

    First dial your google voice number, then insert 2 pauses (should be enough), enter your PIN, insert two more pauses, enter the number 2, insert 3 more pauses, number you want to dial ending with # sign

    So it would look like this

    5555555555,,7777,,2,,,5555555555#

    I am not sure what pauses are on every phone, but on the droid when at the dialpad screen, hit your menu button and there is an option to insert a 2 second pause, just choose this for each pause you want.

    Hope this helps.

    Just wish there was a free app that did all this for you…I really need to learn how to make apps…

    • Mohawk3

      There is a free app in the market called Flex Dialer Lite that can send calls through your Google Voice number. It has a widget, but the widget is giant so I just use the regular app and turn it on and off manually. You do have to maker sure that you have the Google Voice app (if this is on your phone) setup up so that it does not make calls because it conflicts with the Flex Dialer Lite app and the calls will fail.

  • Guest

    What a bunch of crybabies!!! You're cheating your cellphone carrier and then moan and complain when they catch on and make the necessary changes!?

    Everything should be free and handed to you on a silver platter right? You shouldn't have to pay for anything.

    Pathetic. What a bunch of self-deserving brats you are.

  • Mii

    any one got a download link to an older version of this pre update ? not sure how long google will allow it to work unupdated but thats worth a shot

  • Rockstarchef

    I just made 7 calls in a row using GV… all 7 went through the same #… I'll keep watching it and will add that number to my Friends and Family list like before….

  • jahpickney

    I'm worried if they are gonna require a mandatory update soon in order for the app to work

  • Michael_NM

    All I want for Christmas is a real VOIP app for Android!
    If find it ironic that as I read this story, there is an add for “LINE2” for the iPhon't on this page.

    • Manny

      Did you try Sipdroid? If yes and is not what you are looking for what you mean with a real VOIP app?

      • Michael_NM

        I've tried Sipdroid, and it's close, but I can't make calls to phones over Wi-Fi. At least I can't figure out how to. For me, there is no desire to get around paying VZ, I have an unlimited calling plan. Out here in the sticks, there are a number of places where I can access wi-fi, but no VZ. Currently, I use Skype on my laptop to make calls. I was hoping the Skype for Android would be the same, but since VZ crippled the Skype app, it's useless. When I finally got my GV invite, I thought my problem was solved… Nope. Only Fring worked marginally well until recently. I'll just keep my fingers crossed.

        • Have you looked at iSkoot? It seems to be 100% Skype except it works on WiFi as well!

          Otherwise, I've had success using Sipdroid. Oh well.

  • LTE

    What's the big deal, just program your speed dial #'s like this GVnumber -> Pause, Pause, 2, Pause, number u want to call, # this works on dumb phones too, for those who don't have a smartphone yet!

  • mcapehart

    As far as I can tell it IS true. I made 4-5 calls in a row, and each time it was a different routing number. I reverted to the previous version for this reason.

  • 1bad69z28

    Hey everyone (Off Topic) just recieved something funny about Apple check out the link below, I am glad I didn't choose Apple or they're sorry Iphone. Why am I so jealous of them ha ha (NOT) Anyone need a friend LMAO
    http://www.theonion.com/articles/video,17693/

  • Guest

    Last week, I noticed several things. First, my GV access number changed completely for the first time since January when I got the phone. Second, I looked at my FnF numbers on Verizon and my old GV access number had been removed. I added my new GV access number into FnF (which is now a moot point since I upgraded GV before seeing this post), but I wonder how long it would stay there? I wonder if Google is sharing their access numbers with Verizon so Verizon can delete them from FnF lists?

  • Epell

    Can't you still call GV number and assign calls within that service? That should still allow unlimited calling.

  • Now I guess I'll have Dolphin Browser and Google Voice sitting in my market with “Update Available” status.

  • Just use the GVDialer app in the marketplace to place calls with friends and family. It does the contact the server format and it rings you back on your GV number so it can stay in your friends and family.

    • Papawiskas

      I swear I am going to learn how to write apps for android, and never make people pay for the app! Thanks for the tip though. 🙂
      For those wondering it is $1.99.

      • So you're going to spend weeks learning the code, and then making sure it's up to date constantly, and handle customer complaints and suggestions… for free?

        • Papawiskas

          Other people do it, why not?

        • It's called open source technology, bub. This guy, in 1992, yeah? He made this thing called “Linux” and not only did he give it away for free, he also gave away the source code? Why? Cause he is nice.

          And without that, there would not be an Android as we know it. Lots of people give away things like that for free, all the time.

  • jamisles02

    I only use Google Voice for my voicemail, because I hardy use any of my minutes anyway since 99% of the people I talk to are on Verizon, but this does suck for those that do have to really use there minutes & used Google Voice as a go-a-round. Hope this is just a temp problem & negative feed back forces this new feature to removal.

  • Ok so im kind of confused… what about the free txt thing. i mean i have my own google number, will that be gone too? will my free txt be gone 🙁 . . . oh i hope not i'd be pissed if i had to pay for txt again.

    • Fullback118

      I am wondering about that too.. I basically use Google Voice for free texting and if the app doesn't use data the same as it used to, am I using texts through Verizon? I don't have a texting plan anymore so I want to figure this out quickly.

    • Tyler

      Nah that's completely different

      • Tyler

        Google voice texts go through the internet, not your carrier

  • Pilotcharles747

    thank goodness for titanium, back to the previous version i go

  • El El Kool J

    Nice info 🙂 I just looked at the phone and there is the update.. won't be downloading that one. love my unlimited calling thru GVoice. If you're not Verizon (GVoice makes the call)

  • Chase

    Thank God for Titanium Backup. I installed the update before I knew what was going on. Reinstalled the old Voice version from Titanium backup. Hooray for rooting!!!!!

  • Cullen

    I would assume you could still call your google voice number (instead of using the app) and place the call manually. I think that would still work.

    • Papawiskas

      What is the manual method, could you give step by step instructions? I am probably one of the few that would be willing to do that in all my contact numbers, edit them by hand if I knew what numbers, characters etc that I need to input in order to get it to dial out.

      • Cullen

        All you have to do is dial out to your GV number from your cell… When it goes to your voicemail hit *, * then option 2 to place an outbound call.

        • Papawiskas

          Not entirely accurate, but I did figure it out and posted my steps here on how I did it.

  • ajavgeek

    This was the reason why I went to 1400 mins plan, I guess time to go back to 700 mins plan.

    So sad that GV will not allow this any more, I am sure VZW had to do something with it

  • Scotty89

    My wife and I exchanged texts today and I noticed that my text numbers went up on my Verizon widget, so the texts are not free anymore….unless I'm doing this completely wrong.

    anyone else notice this?

    • Mike

      I hope you are doing it wrong because I need my free texts, but it sounds bad if Verizon is recognizing a text message sent through the app as a text and not just data..

    • Droidzilla

      I recently sent some texts and did not notice them being put against texts on my account.

    • Geoffking74

      i also sent texts and they did not count

    • saimin

      I think Verizon charges you for incoming GV texts. Outgoing are free. If you want completely free texts, you can forward your incoming texts to e-mail and then completely disable text messages on your phone.

  • EggoEspada

    I'm not understanding this.
    How do you get Unlimited calls using Google Voice with Family and Friends?

    • kellex

      This used to be the case until today. 🙁

    • firerock

      Easy, set the GV as one of your “Family & Friends”. Then all calls from your GV to others will be free.

  • Timmah

    So when we call though our google voice number, the number that the called see's is different everytime?

  • Yep. This update will officially grind that to a halt.

  • Papawiskas

    I just tested it and it seemed to use a new access number that I did not have in my Verizon List, and I called multiple contacts and the number did not change. That is as of the moment I made the calls, that number might change later today or tomorrow or who knows.
    If this is truly the case, then I just tested the Google Voice website using Skyfire and placed my calls from the website. It called my Google Voice number, then once I answered it, it forwarded on to my desired contact phone number that I was trying to reach. A clunky work around no doubt, but to avoid the minutes this method does work.

    Stupid me had that particular app set to auto update, now I wish I could get my old .apk back, maybe I need to check my Titanium Backup and see if I have a version in there. 🙂

  • what else are we getting with this update? Ability to send pix through google voice ….. ? i'd love that.

  • Fourth!

    My access number recently changed. As did my wife's.

  • nkhex19

    🙂

  • Droidzilla

    gv

  • Martinpelant

    First 😉

  • This comment prevents someone from screaming first!

    • Droidzilla

      I guess now Martinpelant will have to quietly claim his first. That must be what the winkey-face is all about.

      Hehe, “winkey-face.” <snicker>

      • Martinpelant

        I live in Czech republic and we dont have google voice here. So i really dont care 😉

        • static

          isnt it ironic then that we dont care if you care?

      • I can't tell if you are a whiner or joking. If you are whining, I'd rather see first over someone complaining about it any day of the week.